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Submitted by Looking Glass
Not in Barbados!

First congratulations to the newly appointed Governor General and Madame Loretta: another tribute to location.

Yes there is and will always be racism even among Whites. For some Whites it is a reaction to their lower class status especially after being given a title by a Black government. Blacks too are in practical terms most guilty of racism. For us it is a convenient excuse that enables us to blame others for our shortcomings. Some Whites who did not marry Blacks passed on financial and other inheritance to their black mistresses and their offspring. It led to the Black Class System (Re Comments To Rescue and Rebuild) within which those with brown-skin were considered not to be “One uh We”, treated like Whites and discriminated against. But no one talks about black racism which in many ways was more vicious than white racism.

Some left high school with a birth certificate, worked for a mixed-race owned company and never reached management level. Now one low class White soul pontificates about white racism. Does marriage to a high-brown render one anti racist? His observations suggest he knows nothing about our history, less about socio-political and economic dynamics and is very untruthful.

In Barbados Sold we are told that Blacks tolerated a relationship with the dominant white minority group who enjoy a disproportionate economic influence “which extends to the political sphere,” that Whites decided not to “fully integrate their businesses” and the unwillingness of governments to “react to the aggressive acquisition of Barbados assets.” Exactly what does he mean?

The Whites, some of whom were slaves built, developed, governed the country (Little England 12) and provided the social services we today enjoy until we voted them out of politics. Their businesses, some owned by the racially mixed, were by far the largest employer of blacks. Their offspring developed and expanded the businesses they inherited. Black businesses on the other hand died with their founders. Most of their offspring opted for education and or the white-collar job. In the last 100 or so years the indigenous Whites, including those of mixed origin, were not more than 25% of the total population. Less than 5% have a university degree. They not Blacks or government are the economy.

The suggestion/implication that local firms rejected financial bids from Blacks is an insult to Niggers. Among other things it implies that it would reduce inequality and poverty. Are there 30 Blacks who together could afford to purchase any of the firms sold to Trinidad? The businesses were sold because they were not doing well and there wasn’t much by way offspring to carry on the business. Given the absence of skills and expertise needed to maintain and develop business integration by elevating Blacks to management level remains questionable.

Successive governments and others are blamed for failing to “react to the aggressive acquisition of Barbados Assets,” and for permitting such transactions. The assets are owned by people not the Government. Government cannot dictate to people how to dispose of their businesses or how to distribute their wealth. It cannot create or multiply wealth by dividing or redistributing it. Nor can it legislate the poor out of poverty by legislating wealth away from prosperity. To give it has to take from others. The White-man has no responsibility for the woes of Blacks who have done little to help themselves or the country.

And governments are accused of ‘collaborating’ with whites. This from one who I believe worked for a firm bought by Trinidad, who never reached management level, contributed nothing to society (no community involvement) but was awarded a title. Perhaps he has a point. Being so openly critical of a government that blessed him a title and the Whites says a lot about his socio-phycological dynamics. A major business was sold to the French who offered less than a locally owned company because the mixed-race owners of the local company were deemed to be racist. So could it be that he opposed Trinidadians buying our assets because they fired the Knight? Some of the ‘Trinidadians’ are related not foreigners.

Blogger asked how many whites “integrate blacks in their class by marriage.” A few married blacks. The Knighted soul married a light-brown. Some of those considered pure whites are racially mixed and owned the largest businesses on the Rock. I believe you worked for them. How did you know whites castigated Bizzy and boycotted the wedding? Were you there?

Yes they were white public school teachers at Combermere, Lodge School, Harrison College and policemen. The principal of Harrison College, Fred Haskell, took a black boy short of clothing to Broad Street, bought him some clothing and gave free him private lessons. The boy won a Barbados scholarship. This was at a time of the GCE, when Barbados was said to have one of the best education systems in the world. Today the evaluation of our education by 2 leading universities (UK and Canada) is to put it mildly embarrassing. Others wonder based on the written and spoken word if some of you got past 3rd standard.

Captain Farmer of the police force discovered Sir Gary at a time when he couldn’t get past Spartan club door. The all-white selection committee of Barbados Cricket and the captain John Goddard selected the three Ws, Griffith and Hall (who later represented the West Indies) to play for Barbados. As a schoolboy my team and I had the privilege of being coached on the field and in the pavilion by Norman Marshall and Dennis Atkinson during a first division match against Wanderers and also at Pickwick.

You assume Whites want to “block black middle class from success.” My great-grand parents and some of the clan all had their own businesses which they started from scratch. Many of their offspring opted for education rather than business and attended university. Six of them are “Icons” in the political arena there and in the USA. Did the Whites block them from success?

I grew up in an area surrounded by real poverty at a time when ham was a luxury, when families helped each other and the high school was expensive and costly in more ways than one. Today some of the kids from the area hold the biggest positions on the island and in government. Others are professionals there, Cave Hill,North America and the UK. An exception is Onion Bags, a disaster who I believe did not make it past standard seven. Did Whitee tried but failed to block their success?

You claim governments have “roles to ensure that businesses do not have significant leverage in economies by forcing companies to break up if they become dominant.” If that were the case there would be no monopolies in the world. Do yourself a big favour. Take not what you believe or were told for granted. Do some research or investigation before commenting.


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213 responses to “RACISM Lingers On”


  1. How can you have racism among Whites?

    Perhaps LG is getting confused with prejudice or classism.


  2. looking glass after reading your submission i was forced to do some research on many of the issues you highlited and i hope your idealogy was tongue n cheek. on Racisim. an apology or what! i am kind of amist of how you can ignore the facts pertaining to racism and how you can place blame on blacks you are trying to like say that blacks are responsible for racism.


  3. “An exception is Onion Bags, a disaster who I believe did not make it past standard seven.” Yuh wrong bout thatone looking glass, he says he went to university at the Penn up Lemon Arbour….LOLLLL


  4. lokking glass is trying to be provocative because it is hard to understand how one can come up with such conclusions on some of these issues . even the last paragraph on “monopolies’ threw me back . so i had to check with wikipedia. i find his opinion on those issues are sorely out of touch in the 21st century.


  5. Every time I see Rosemary Alleyne on TV I does pray to God to mek me wake up White … I can’ be on the same side as dah … dah … dah Buxhauphagus …!


  6. You assume Whites want to “block black middle class from success.” My great-grand parents and some of the clan all had their own businesses which they started from scratch. Many of their offspring opted for education rather than business and attended university. Six of them are “Icons” in the political arena there and in the USA. Did the Whites block them from success?

    My question to you looking glass : What year was it that the off spring did so well in the USA? because in the 60’s blacks were still fighing for equal rights in the great USA. thankfully after many had fought and died for equal rights the off spring of your grans were allowed the privilegeand equal opportunity which they quickly accepted not forgetting upon whose backs and shoulders the battle was won. i think you have lost track of the situation and without clarity has reached a damming conclusion one on which history have proven you wrong.


  7. @LG
    I cant speak to all the businesses sold to Trinis but I can assure you my father’s was performing well and was sold as an EXIT strategy for the owners who were in their mid 60s.

    The Bank was becoming uncomfortable with lending more money to older guys and yet the younger brigade did NOT have the money to buy the old guys out. SIMPLE! Businesses have to expand at a slower rate if they cant obtain financing for whatever reason.

    One point that many miss on this topic is that money comes into BIM when outsiders buy here and the forex controls prevent the Bajan seller from sending the money overseas. ( unless you know the tricks of that trade)


  8. David | June 29, 2012 at 10:37 PM |
    How can you have racism among Whites?

    Perhaps LG is getting confused with prejudice or classism.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The same logic in the question could be applied to Blacks.

    The confusion arises because both terms, Black and White are social constructs and have little to do with skin colour.


  9. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/judge-delays-decision-george-zimmerman-bond-163325090.html

    Check the photo of the three men in this link related to George Zimmerman and tell me what colour GZ is.


  10. @John

    We have White and Black which exist out of a social construct: are you willing to admit construct or not it is a reality?


  11. David

    It is a real social construct!!


  12. @John

    Which means that it is real?


  13. … and that it is a social construct!!

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    @ Looking Glass
    When Bulwer-Lytton stated the pen is mightier than the sword…He was soooooo right….for me to be highlighted in your meretricious dross…for usually having to to attack your nonsense… .for the codswallop you duz write…..yeah boss I ent went nah way, and gladly too relieved… not to understand your Shakespeare…..but it don’t take laureate to understand you don’t write much…”.whaa um is ya trying to say doa ?” interpreting clobber was always my miscast.


  15. So, what say you on George Zimmerman?


  16. @John

    You bobbing and weaving on the issue of racism will not change the fact that if it is a social construct it does not change the fact that resultant behaviour is real. To change it is not about identifying the cause but about mapping an action plan to shift baked behaviours.


  17. @ David

    Is it true to say BU is against racism not matter its source and no matter how it manifests itself? By ‘racism’ I mean discriminating against a person or class on grounds of skin colour and ethnic origin.


  18. So what say you on George Zimmerman?

    Had his name been Jose de Castro this circus would not have occurred!!

    It is as “clear” an indication of prejudice as you can want!!

    A name is what caused this media mess!!

    Would you say that if Obama had a son he could like George Zimmerman?


  19. john ”The confusion arises because both terms, Black and White are social constructs and have little to do with skin colour”

    I would agree. Terms such as that of ‘high brown’ which Looking Glass him or herself used, reflect a preculiarity in that racism is a mental status and as such a social construct as you say.

    The various attitudes towards Looking Glass’s ‘high brown’, those perceived as white bajan, those perceived as black bajan and those of other non European or African origins such as East Indian, clearly demonstrate that the context is a social construct and does exist.

    As I noted on previous blogs on this topic, thankfully I perceive that young peeople are moving past all that crap and have a different outlook to the old ‘fuddy-duddy’ and warped view of life.


  20. @John,

    But I disagree on George Zimmerman. The whole issue IS just what you say, about social construct and it would appear to be that that situation arose because of Zimmerman’s perceptions of the young boy, who he subsequently killed.

    That Zimmerman himself may be of mixed descent is irrelevant per se, it is the mindset that is critical i.e. that it appears that the young boy was targeted for following/ watching because of HIS ethnicity in that distrcit.

    That is the issue. So, not contrary to what you say, but actually corresponds.


  21. If Jesus Christ were a black man would Christianity be as popular in this country or the region? The UK or USA?


  22. The point which continues to be stuck in your throat by insisting that it is a social construct is NOT the issue.

    Understanding that after years of this construct being wedded to how we do things it has become institutionalized in the social and economic fabric of our societies.

    The challenge for modern society is how do WE dismantle this social construct as you posit.

    So you see the argument has moved passed where you continue to anchor it.


  23. As long as you have a society that embraces elitism … you know things like Sirships and OBE’s and QC’s, Kolij grads and Winnipegs and so on there will always be room for the continuance of the despised institutions like the White Barbados club… and so on


  24. @BAFBFP

    Are you suggesting a system which confers a Knighthood on Wesley Hall for example is elitist?


  25. There is racism, classism, shadeism and many more isms. Humans love to place themselves in “groups” and they like to fragment. Traditionally the fans of Spurs and Arsenal in London hate each other and many nasty incidents have occurred over the years. This among the supposedly “civilised” English. In Bim this type of nonsense happens but very seldom, relatively speaking.

    I know that many white Bajans were, and some still are, racist. However, lumping all whites as racist and all darker peeps as non-racist is very far from the truth. Saying that whites dont help darks is utter nonsense. There is a well known Cricket commentator, who is a year younger than I, that approached me when we were in our teens on the subject of making something of himself. I made it clear to this chap that Foundation was a good school and he could launch himself from that base to achieve whatever he put his mind to. Incidentally, not only has he risen to some prominence BUT his daughter won a Bdos Schol ! Why? He believed in himself and was absolutely determined to succeed!


  26. I dont think you ‘actively’ dismantle’ anything. As Mandela showed in South Africa, you must change attitudes and outlooks.

    In the end he got an ally in De Clerk to work with the anti apartheid movement from the position of leader of the nation.

    In the same way, old ideas are slowly being phased out by the young people, they are the future and that is how things will change, thankfully.

    The old fuddies white or black, who have old hatreds and dislikes are no longer movers and shakers, The future there lies in the outlooks of the young who will change things in their image.

    Tthat is how things will change.


  27. @ looking glass
    Nonsense!

    @BAFBFP
    there must be somebody who can be honest with Rosemary Alleyne or whoever it is that allows her on TV…..


  28. @ Crusoe

    ‘The young will change things in their image’

    Try telling that to the church in all its weird manifestations in Barbados.

    Does anyone know what Fr Goodridge wears in bed?


  29. @robert

    You are aware that BU is labeled as racist so why bother?


  30. @Crusoe

    It is not enough to say the young will change things.

    There must be something discrete driving the attitudinal change.


  31. And on the subject of the church…….

    why is it that there is only one white Anglican priest in Barbados and why is it, 11 years on from ordination, that he has never been made a priest-in-charge of anywhere?


  32. @ David

    But that is exactly why I asked the question…I, at least, would want you to bother.


  33. @ BAF

    By the ‘White Barbados club’ do you mean the Yacht Club?


  34. @ Moneybrain
    Are you related to John? You both have this way of bringing straw men into arguments and then seeking to destroy them.

    How can you respond to a GENERAL statement that whites have been racist with a defence that “some whites have helped blacks?” …and how does what YOUR family did, in selling their business to foreigners, make the general case? Stupsessss!!!

    The basic problem with human beings is that we tend to be selfish, clannish and hateful by nature. Whatever opportunities present themselves for us to draw “us” and “them” lines are taken – and we then proceed with the hatefulness and spite.

    Race is obviously an easy delineator. But so is nationality, language, club membership, status, rank etc etc etc

    There are those who always are able to rise above the muck, but there can be no question that in the black vs white divide, the whites have been the villains hands down.

    With respect to the local situation where the former white owners have largely sold their interest to outsiders, Bushie maintains that to a large extent, this has been a conscious and deliberate choice largely made to AVOID creating avenues for black successes in these areas.

    Both Looking Glass and Moneybrain are joking when the refer to blacks currently being unable to afford such entities.
    …it may be true that there is no tradition of such acquisitions, but if transparent management is put in place and Bajans are invited to buy into a good local company, the response would be overwhelming…. The question is whether the moneybrains of this country (the ones still ’bout here) can do anything transparently…?


  35. ‘the whites have been the villains’

    I suppose that’s a general statement too……as also ‘human beings are hateful by nature’.


  36. Moneybrain’s point is that it is not a universal. And then there’s Mr Bynoe who got his start in life from a white person.


  37. Robert Ross,

    In the 50’s and the 60’s most of the priests were white. Shouldn’t the colour of the priests reflect the colour of the population? A pity I can’t say the same about their God man Jesus.


  38. Crusoe | June 30, 2012 at 9:17 AM |
    @John,

    That Zimmerman himself may be of mixed descent is irrelevant per se, it is the mindset that is critical i.e. that it appears that the young boy was targeted for following/ watching because of HIS ethnicity in that distrcit.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you listen to the 911 tape you will realise that George Zimmerman did not know whether the person he was following, apparently first in his vehicle, was Black, White or Hispanic.

    He called 911 because he observed a person acting suspiciously in his neighbourhood.

    When the 911 despatcher asked him whether the person was Black, White or Hispanic … he did not know …. had not thought of it….. how could he … it was night time and the person was wearing a hoodie!!

    You will hear on the tape when it was that George Zimmerman first realised the person was Black.

    Listen to the tape on the net!!

    Look at the crime scene reconstruction on the net!!

    You will realise just how crazy the whole thing is!!

    The reaction after the news story is proof of just how real prejudice is … and just how real the social construct of Black and White has become.


  39. @islandgal

    Perhaps we should flip the question by asking if the board room of the Williams Group of Companies should reflect the population/workers as one example.


  40. @ Islandgal

    I suppose it does….ONE white priest of c87 black priests not counting the Bishop.

    Your remark, which I know you’ve made before, about the colour of Jesus is a conditional hypothetical. We shall never know.


  41. David I had asked that same question on a previous blog.


  42. How about another question – why Whites don’t actively participate in political parties/organs i.e. attend the AGMs, try to represent the people etc? The answer, it is not necessary.


  43. @ Islandgal
    You may need to difererentiate between ” their white God-man Jesus” and THE actual person who lived 2000 years ago after being born in Bethlehem….. For starters, that guy was black…

    If you have allowed yourself to become obsessed with their “white creation” don’t take it out on the BU family… Bushie don’t seem to hear you complaining about the other obsessions that you have adopted from them…. Like the craze for money and material goods.


  44. David | June 30, 2012 at 10:51 AM |
    How about another question – why Whites don’t actively participate in political parties/organs i.e. attend the AGMs, try to represent the people etc? The answer, it is not necessary.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Could it be racism?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Remember what EWB, O$A, ET, GC …………….etc had to say about them!!


  45. @ Ross
    ” point is that it is not a universal. And then there’s Mr Bynoe who got his start in life from a white person…”
    **************
    There MUST be something that you understand…..
    …and Bushie’s point is that in a GENERAL argument, it is not sufficient to cite a SPECIFIC exception to disprove a case….
    ….ssssshoot man… Good thing you are not a lawyer…


  46. @ John
    Could it be Racism?!!!!!
    ***********
    ….or could it be that they have generally proven themselves to be selfish, hateful, exploitative, clannish and divisive leaders who have accumulated generations of pain and suffering on the ancestors of present day black Barbadians?…..and that these Bajans, being aware of this historical fact, have wisely chosen to avoid putting themselves again into that deplorable state…?!!!!!


  47. As you see David, Racism is both very real …. and also a social construct!!


  48. BTW, ET = Elizabeth (Liz) Thompson.


  49. BT …I forgot you were there 2000 years ago. and forgot that you don’t live in this world. Go long back to the hills you decrepit two timer.

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