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Pat Hoyos – Publisher, Hoyos Publishing Inc

Paul Doyleโ€™s plan to transform Skeeteโ€™s Bay into a bustle by building a restaurant to complement the others he owns located at the Crane Hotel has had to be shelved.ย  Doyle has Mac Fingall to thank for putting a spoke in his wheel. It is a little over a week Mac went public with his concerns about Doyleโ€™s Skeeteโ€™s Bay Culpepper Beach Houses project – Mac Fingall And St. Philip Residents โ€˜Fighting Backโ€™ To Protect Their Way Of Life At Skeetes Bay which is pending Town Planning approval.

Since this project was forced to the public at the Town Hall meeting held at St. Catherine’s Sports Club, an obvious public relations job has been triggered in the local media. Pat Hoyosโ€™s piece in the Sunday Sun [19/02/2012] titled โ€˜Ragga ragga Macโ€™ caught the eye today when he attacked Mac Fingall for vocalizing his concerns that Barbados was fast becoming a concrete jungle. To quote Hoyos, he labelled Macโ€™s protestation about how he viewed development in his parish as โ€˜one of the most awful anti-development rants I have ever heardโ€™.ย  After reading Hoyosโ€™s article it became obvious Mac Fingall was operating at a level which left Hoyos in his wake. It is obvious Macโ€™s reference to slavery had to do with the outcome if Barbadians continue to sell and allow โ€˜othersโ€™ to develop our finite resource, the land! The result will be that these fields and hills we call our own today will not be ours tomorrow.

What intelligent Barbadians gleaned from Macโ€™s position about the West and South coast taking the form of concrete jungles, is to question whether such a policy is sustainable. What is the social cost of continuing with the policy? It has absolutely nothing to do with being anti-development and the St. Philip posse wanting to guard their way of life. To support Mac Fingallโ€™s concern one only has to look at how Spain having invested billions in its tourist product is struggling mightily to attract tourists today. Todayโ€™s tourists are also spending less.

One of the freedoms enjoyed by the BU household is that we have no advertisers or sponsors to brown nose. We do not own a Who’s Who magazine which is dependent on the business community for its success. We can write how we freely feel on the issues. Pat Hoyos was out of line to ridicule Mac for expressing concern about how the pace of development has impacted the lives of Bajans.

Development at what price Mr. Hoyos?


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108 responses to “Development At What Price Pat Hoyos? The Fight By Bajans To Own What Land Is Left”


  1. Brother David (B.U.)
    This is why we need to petition for there to be a move to pressure the government to one:
    -Tax foreigners heavily when it comes to buying and owning real-estate on an annual basis.
    -Issue hefty fees for a license in order for the descendants of foreign land owners to inherit he property.
    -Issue taxes that by the acreage and square footage of the property as well as property developments/settlement-buildings/houses.
    -Raise the standard of property price range into the tens of millions of dollars along with downsizing the property development sizes when it comes to foreigners and real-estate.
    -Allow for their to be the incentive for foreigners to lease land instead of purchasing it by making it out of their price range.

    @ Everyone else
    The reason for these measures being that Barbados doesn’t have much land and we cannot become an oversized tourist resort. I feel like I keep saying this AND YET no one chooses to hear me out.

    I beg and I beg for a voice only to be left out in the silence and people still choose to complain and gripe about how unfair the situation is instead of mobilizing in opposition to the trend. I ask for people to sign my petition and up to now no one has acted so what is the point of you people complaining if you are not even going to take the initiative to act? GOD, Bajan people frustrate me so!


  2. God Help the Bajan people….
    For I fear that as a society our short-sightedness has proven to be oh-so crippling to the Bajan psyche it would seem…..

  3. CHARLES S. CADOGAN SR Avatar
    CHARLES S. CADOGAN SR

    I submitted a piece to The Barbados Today titled **STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN* and it was printed. I have been saying this for quite sometime regarding how Barbados is being developed into A CONCRETE JUNGLE. Barbados was once the GEM OF THE CARIBBEAN, where people enjoyed its NATURAL BEAUTY. But now with this constant delevopment. Barbados is being sold to outsiders at a rapid rate. It wouldn’t be long before the better part of Barbados will belong to outsiders. It seems that to the government and some others, money comes before the interest of the LITTL MAN. Depending on others to provide for the good of Barbados is like going backwards. Barbadians fought, and struggled to be SELF SUFFICIENT. This dependency on tourism is like putting all your eggs in one basket. Mac Fingall and the commnity of St.Philip has the right to STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN; Hoyos or anyone else for that matter can say whatever they care to say about what Mac Fingall and the community in St.Philip is doing all they want to. I AGREE 110% with Mac Fingall’s stance. Because Barbados is being changed so much that it’s becoming so different from the Barbados that many of us LOVED as it was. I am not against development. But when do you STOP destroying THE NATURAL GOD GIVEN BEAUTY of Barbados for concrete??


  4. I was in some classes with Patrick Hoyos at Kolij. He is a middle to upper class Bajan who could not understand the concept of chillin out in a fish market on a regular basis.

    Patrick was a nice fellow at school.

    A fish market in rural Barbados is like a “community centre”. The ones I frequented(there were two of them) while at Kolij were places where the men in the neighborhood congregated and played Draughts,Dominoes and Hearts.

    It could be difficult to understand Mac’s position if you do not have that type of community imprinted in you DNA.

    We have already sacrificed the West and South Coasts. We should pause and think before we create a concrete doughnut.


  5. you know what is funny? who is selling the land? BAJANS. who is selling the big businesses in Barbados? BAJANS.

    this BS about the government need to do this and that is so much shite. i pay for my land and if i want to, i will sell to the highest or lowest buyer or tell the buyers to kiss my as…pen. AND i love my country just as much as you.

    Macโ€™s reference to slavery, was very distasteful and it really shows the level to which persons will go to make a point. who the hell are you to tell me what to do with my land? is that not in its self, slavery? give me a break.

    on Pat’s article, i know him personally and when i see him will have to call him “Ragga ragga Pat” because i really don’t understand what is his point with that article. Also having worked with the man, i can tell you he is not one to sell out an ad, so BU you are dead wrong on that one.


  6. Three cheers for Mac and those who suported the idea of ‘no more developement…….!
    We should all be supportive of the same idea which Ireland took; that is, ‘no more new building of houses until all existing buildings are sold’.
    Barbados is a concrete jungle, built for the rich to hide and launder their ill-gotten gains at the expense of our future generation.
    What is the reasoning behind it all? Jobs, foreign exchange; when in fact, the only jobs are those maids and gardeners.

    If I can remember well, I read an article, allegedly written by an ex-Prime Minister, in a leading newspaper, that he ‘was saddened at the sight of the west coast concrete jungle……..!’
    The fact that he travelled that route on his way to work daily, at leading institution, brings to mind, was he wearing blinkers or did it sprung up overnight?


  7. In London it is common for attractive properties to be sold as leasehold land – not freehold. Purchasers acquire the right to use the property for 100 years.

    Time to do the same in Barbados.


  8. @ David
    You are sadly mistaken. It is the responsibility of the government to implement measures in order to limit the amount of land being bought up. Might I stress that Bim is fairly low in landmass? We cannot afford to have an uncontrolled market in which real-estate companies (whether foreign or not) are selling off the nation’s acreage as if it were some plot of soil that had an unlimited amount of space. The fact of the matter is, Bajans need the land where as foreigners don’t which equates to the stakes being much higher for us. We could soon have a situation in which Bajan citizens are subject to policies that will infringe on their daily lives because of the statutes that would be introduced in order to better accommodate the infrastructure of Barbados.

    TO sit there and say that you don’t care is basically gleefully signing your death certificate. What I am arguing here is that the government should initiate land protection laws that are like that of Bermuda’s. Maybe not as extreme in some points, but it would most certainly be needed in our case.


  9. @ David
    As for the slavery comment, it would most certainly be appropriate because should one were to look at the trends of Barbados from a macro-economic standpoint; any one would agree that the current paradigm which is being played out on an economic as well as a political level would agree that Barbados is essentially becoming an urbanized slave plantation in which the citizens are subject to work in the service industries (almost exclusively) for rich foreign customers. This truth existing while that land is being developed quickly before the eyes of Bajans.

    And you sit there and bawl that you paid for your land and that it is your earned right to own it. You haven’t even considered the fact that should the nation’s real estate market get out of hand, that the nation’s landscape could become over developed and that could lead to the government tearing down your home and vanquishing your property rights in favor of a foreign development.

    I wouldn’t sit too comfortably if I were you brother David. If anything, I would be nervous and outraged….


  10. Barbadians have the ability to change almost anything on this small speck of land – Barbados . Will we hold an important single idea or ideology and treasure it so much that those elected will have to act? No! we scurry around making loud noises about being against the B’s or D’s. In the interim “concrete brutalization” gathers pace, singularly for others to cavort, whilst large sections of the majority population make do with standing in line for expected NHS habitation.

    “Together-ness” is foreign to the Barbadian way of thinking, so we are picked off one by one. Until we see that there are people – Barbadians – who live in Barbados but that their agenda is completely different to that of the majority population……..we are doomed.


  11. @David (Not BU)

    When Doyle bought his 50 acres at Whitehaven four years ago he did so full in the knowledge that his application for change of use would be approved. Government is responsible for enabling policy which protects the national interest. To be satisfied in a policy where land fetched its highest economic value is myopic. In 20 or 30 years when Barbados is owned by ‘others’ what then? Why do some of our neigbouring islands have alien land holding laws enacted?


  12. http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/sir-charles-williams-welcome-to-our-home-and-barbados/ The video in this article is interesting. Those of us walkers, picnickers, photographers, tourists, fishermen, workmen, children who find piece of mind in this unique corner of Barbados need to be spared the “vision” of Doyle and Sir. Charles.


  13. This song by Mac a little while back explains how these people feel about their space, it needs to be respected.


  14. This project creates the need for us to strike a balance between ,NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT on the one hand and all its attendant benefits AND disadvantages , and the IDEAL of a wish to see our country, as far as possible, retain its pristine state. It does not afford the implementation of any easy solutions. Any dream of keeping out FURTHER development on grounds of aesthetics and folk experience ..” we played there as children ” , is nothing but a pipe dream and cannot NOW be taken seriously. And certainly ones right to sell ones land to whomsoever one pleases is so deeply rooted in our local practice and culture that it would be well nigh impossible, given the need to be realistic about the need for further national development , to turn it around. Loud talk and emotionalism will not provide a solution to the Skeetes Bay debate.


  15. @An Observer

    While loud talk and emotionalism will not provide a solution it may serve as the catalyst for the debate we need to have.

    BU cannot see anyone better than Mac et al from the picturesque village of Bayfield to lead the debate.

    Rest assured the national pulpit and the power they have via their profession will make them hard to ignore.

    It is an election year afteral.


  16. Mac’s song here posted is a delightful little ditty but alas, FIFTY YEARS behind in its realistic present-day relevance.The Bayfield Town being sung about NO LONGER EXISTS AND HAS NOT EXISTED FOR ABOUT FIFTY YEARS.
    I however empathise and identify with the sentiments expressed in the song having been brought up in a rural village as well.


  17. @David
    I am not unsympathetic to the cause, just being practical.


  18. @An Observer

    What is your definition of ‘practical’?

    Arthur is on record admitting that real estate FDI is the only option his government at time had to bridge the shortfall in revenues i.e. tourist receipts plus other to finance our expenditures. Is this sustainable?

    Don’t we have the wherewithal to leverage our investment in education and ‘restructure’ recalibrate the fundamentals of the economy?

    What is clear is that what we are currently doing is not sustainable and on our present path the brand which we use to sell as part of our tourism cachet is being eroded by the day.


  19. @ David
    A dictionary definition of ” practical ” will not suffice so let us look at some of the considerations that DEVELOPMENT of the magnitude which the project promises may bring to Bayfield in particular and Barbados in general…..
    JOBS of many sorts which is a major consideration whenever the word development is whispered in our present economic development ; jobs also bring ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY..how much and for how long would be purely speculative but the manner in which Barbados has developed over the past fifty years must raise this consideration. In addition, we must weigh the benefit of having this tract of land remain in its pristine state against the benefit of making it productive..I think you should pick up my drift by now..
    Thanks for engaging me.


  20. what is playing out in Bayfield is a huge c’bean wide problem. See, for example, the current Cayman explosion http://www.compasscayman.com/caycompass/2012/02/20/Activists–Democracy-in-Cayman-at—crossroad-/
    and Doyle as “developer” is small fry to Dart (styrofoam)


  21. What about local jobs and the millions in FDI think on these things.


  22. What is wrong with leasing this land to Mr. Doyle for this development? When shall we Bajans stop being so small island minded and really seek opportunities for development. No song by Mac or Plastic bag or Gabby shall bring the funds or thoughts to develop this piece of real estate. Look at Martins Bay that too needs such an injection of development. when tourists are touring the island there is no proper places to take them that would ensure that bajans are part of the expenditure that comes form their visit.


  23. One major point missing from the debate on investment in land and other projects in Barbados is the “other” significant cost to Bajans i.e. how much money will end up in overseas bank accounts? This is an important concern and usually a huge cost which has to be borne by us all to the detriment of our country.

    How much tax free money is sitting in overseas bank accounts which we could be putting to far better use NOW here in Barbados? Is anything being done to locate and repatriate these proceeds of crime and bring the criminals to justice?

    It is about time this open door was closed!


  24. @An Observer

    There is the social cost to the argument.

    There is also the reality that we continue to build on the tourist model which in a new world is showing itself to be generating diminishing returns.

    The reality also is that Doyle has purchased the land already and he would have done so on the expectation that he could development the land.


  25. My simplistic analysis suggest that the medium term benefit of villa development is not a big earner of foreign exchange.

    Canadian builds a villa. all the materials are imported except for concrete blocks and some sand.
    When villa is completed it is lived in or rented.

    What does the Canadian do with the profits from his investment? How much is he allowed to return to Canada or the Cayman’s?

    I am also interested to know what is the roi per sq. ft of a Villa , a Hotel or a manufacturing plant.

    The reason i ask this is that I know of a factory in Toronto that is in a 200,000 sq. ft. building,employs 400+ people and sells $150million in products per year.

    It begs the question. Should Barbados be aggressively pursuing light high value industrial development as a substitute for Tourism development.

    We need to have a balanced discussion about what kind of life the average Bajan will have. I know some of you vacation overseas including in Toronto but you are not the majority.


  26. @ David.
    Objectively, we are on the same wave length and we have both exposed some of the difficulties being faced by all parties interested in the project. your observation that Doyle has already purchased the land and would have done so on the expectation of being able to develop it is very apposite .


  27. Folks the argument that we need to preserve our heritage is most worthy of discussion. The problem is that Govt has not developed an All Encompassing Master Plan on land use, tourism, job creation etc Politicians who permit wild development can make far too much money with impunity and stash it overseas. Who says that corruption doesnt pay? This type of behavior has been observed for thousands of years from Mesopotamia through the Greek/ Roman Empires to modern day Europe, Africa, US et al.

    Where are the true statesmanlike leaders in Bim who appreciate the epic problems in the Western Financial World and intend to stop the partisan bickering and corruption, in order to solve the impending( and current) massive threats to Bim from both sides of the Atlantic. (this is tantamount to tuberculosis, aggressive cancer and a heart attack striking in tandem)? This is what we all have to call for NOW as it may already be too late!

    What we actually have is very poor management whereby Govt is expending big $$$$ in the Civil Service with little monitoring and control eg many peeps working in the MCW who “work 2hr days” for full pay. Bim’s debt to GDP is already stratospheric and income slowing with the additional trouble emanating from the West. Collapse is on the horizon and yet so called leaders are hiding under their desks. Building a new hospital and other badly needed infrastructure is a good idea to create jobs BUT how much will it cost and how much will be overcharged to fill the pols coffers?

    We all must be focused on this big picture and Bajans must howl their insistence for efficient and effective leadership and planning in this environment.


  28. @Moneybrain wrote “epic problems in the Western Financial World and intend to stop the partisan bickering and corruption, in order to solve the impending( and current) massive threats to Bim from both sides of the Atlantic.”

    A very profound statement. You sure your name isn’t Don Drummond?


  29. A big irony exposed by this transaction is the fact that the Sam Lord’s Castle property, dilapidated though it is, remains locked in order papers awaiting debate in parliament.

    What a waste that 40 acres on one of our South east coastline has to be maligned and the rat infested and derelict property further East remains abandoned.

    Who said we have become educated fools?


  30. And how many Bajans can and do go to Canada, buy property and develop it without encumberances and the howl of “foreigners and freedom” ?
    How many Bajan- Canadians live in Barbados and rape OHIP when they get sick?
    How many Bajans send their children to study in Canada and get an education to the benefit of Barbados when they return.
    How many Bajan work on the farm program in Canada ( and there are mal contents who are lazy ,so typical; read today’s nation )
    Our way of life ?? stupse; try garbage dumping
    And lastly, when is a person is no longer a foreigner in Barbados. for you hypocrites who live and study in Canada ,USA and wherever, give up your citizenship and other status, then you can lecture others about being foreign to Barbados


  31. @Hants
    For the record, I have been aware of what DD had to say for at least 3+ yrs.
    Hudak is an idiot for NOT shredding Mc Goofy in the last election. Mc G has not only increased spending by gargantuan proportions but has taxed the crap out of us with poor management to boot. He would not have got a 3rd term in Bim!

    It is interesting that you would focus on this when Bim is crying for leadership. We all must focus on that!


  32. The arrogance of Pat Hoyos when challenged on the talk show about his article (see link in article) he avoids.

    This is part of our problem where we are not allowed to hold these guys accountable for positions taken in the public sphere.


  33. @Lazy
    I would agree that there is abuse as you contend. However, your point about Bajans buying property in Canada is a MAJOR FAIL! Your knowledge of geography requires enhancement since Canada is the second largest country on Earth and Bim is easily close to smallest. It should not require significant IQ to figure out that land use policy/ foreign ownership in Bim is far more critical.


  34. Doyle can offer 300 jobs and much needed foreign exchange. Mac Fingall can only offer Barbados a joke, not even the “Run for your money tv show” because SuperCentre aint even want him anymore.

    Skeets Bay fish market has about 3 fishermen and 3-4 government employees. Why should a fish market in this day and age be continues to operate with only 3 fishermen and they are more employees than fishermen. I say let them go to Consett.

    If Fingall wants to do so much for St Philip, why he dont help the young boys in St philip who killing and robbing or even go to the school where the boy get stab up?

  35. E. Mac Gregor Hutchinson Avatar
    E. Mac Gregor Hutchinson

    I like it when people think that their money can isolate them from anything, and feeling that it is only the dispossessed who have to worry. Look at crime, some behave as those the pain and suffering of others is inconsequential and would never touch them. Like the hardship that has begun to touch our middle class, that too can “trickle up”! Shouting democracy yet never liking or wanting the dissenting view on anything and eager to label people as rabble-rousers gums up the dialogue. Not only does this word mean trouble maker but carries the moniker of mental lulliputin, micro cephalic, clown and all the other thought of someone who came to town by the last bus. How about Martin Luther King, Clement Payne, Shirley Chilsom, Susan B.Anthony, Eric Sealy, they all got the current social narrative going in the minds of the wider public. I abhor “straight talk” that is couched in political double-speak by members of the Communist Party Central. These apparatchicks only listen and rever the other members of the Politburo, any other person is “talking foolishness “


  36. @lazy
    I was born here yet my Blood is as Bajan as Flying Fish & Cou-Cou. I didn’t “CHOOSE” to move here, rather it was my parents due to a lack of employment in the 80’s. And FYI, I do have plans on returning to Bim and to help develop Bim in an ENVIRONMENTALLY as well as ECONOMICALLY sustainable basis.

    Let’s be real here, Bajans don’t have any real companies to boast of. In fact our industry is is suffering. Malta is in a much better situation than Barbados due to the fact that many companies are Maltese owned.


  37. @Moneybrain wrote,”It is interesting that you would focus on this when Bim is crying for leadership. We all must focus on that!

    I can walk and chew gum at the same time. I live and work primarily in Toronto.

    Like a lot of Bajans living in Canada, I follow the politics in both countries because I have material interests in both countries.


  38. Lazy wrote “How many Bajans send their children to study in Canada and get an education to the benefit of Barbados when they return.”

    Bajans who send their children to school in Canada have to pay for their education. It is a business for Canadian schools and Universities.

    http://www.fees.utoronto.ca/archive/y07/fees/utsc/Fees_-_International_Students.htm


  39. @Hants
    So you saying that you chewing gum while Bim burns.

    Multi-tasking sounds great BUT focusing on the primary problem takes precedence.

    You are sure right that Cnd Unis and Medical Schools make big $$$$$ from Bim.


  40. Bruda Bim
    Malta is in a much better situation than Barbados due to the fact that many companies are Maltese owned.

    At present ANY PLACE you could name including Guyana is in a better financial position that BIM today. So Brudds, we need you to use your influence here to help us rid of these Clowns…if you have any


  41. @Moneybrain,

    Happy family day.

    As David will tell you, I always try to make a meaningful contribution on this blog.

    I ain’t no rich man like you but I can assure you that money I earned in Barbados was all spent in Barbados.

    I also have confidence that the better educated and more intelligent Bajans living in Barbados don’t need my help. All de Kolij boys who went school with me are far more successful than me so there is hope that they will not let Barbados burn.

    Plus they have a moneybrain to advise them.


  42. Not to digress but Malta’s significant revenue is based on gambling.


  43. @ David
    Seems to me,that tourism is (now in these times)no more than a big gamble.


  44. From Nationnews “WHEN THE EARL AND COUNTESS of Wessex visit Barbados later this week, wherever they go they will most likely see the best face of the island.

    Preparations are in full swing to upgrade, renovate and clean up the areas the royal couple will visit and the routes the two will travel are also being spruced up.”

    As a Tourist destination should this not be done on an ongoing basis?


  45. @Hants ; recall
    The O Jays song>>>Money Money Money Moneeeey
    Boy we would luv to got roads like Canada…


  46. @old onion bags,

    we would love to have beaches like Barbados.


  47. To those who have never experienced the ‘in the wild’ feeling which Skeete’s Bay provides here see if you can conjure up the feel from the pic.

    Bear in mind Doyle was forced to back off the ‘optional’ restaurant idea but Mac and co seem to be going after the development now.


  48. Str8 Up, you notice how nobody ain’t comment on what you say? priceless.


  49. @David (Not BU)

    What is there to comment on Str8’s comment?

    The point has been made that we need a balance in how we develop Barbados.

    The overriding reason cannot be economic consideration, it must be done in a social context.

    What is so hard about that to understand?

    He never addressed this view.

    We have not added that the tourist model is tired and we need to diversify.

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