Crusoe, in spite of the West’s admitted financial straits, u still seem to expect them to solve ALL of the world’s problems, IN ONE GO! This isn’t reasonable. Give them time, and I sincerely hope that they WILL invade all of the other countries which you mentioned and sort them out too. Their inhabitants deserve a better quality of life and, if we can provide it for them, then we should! As I said earlier, ‘get on the freedom-train’!! It’s Yemen bound, next. 🙂
c u tom!

Techie

I am guilty of feeding the troll … I apologize man

…’@ Crusoe, how do you know that Gadahfi was not stashing away billions of $$$, for himself and his son(s)? Just look at that man’s face, could you want to see anyone closer in countenance to a Demonic expression than Gadahfi?

Boy!!
Stick to the biblical aspect please!!
What does a man’s facial expression or physical appearance has to do with anything?
Dont you know that the same western world (women) years ago thought he was one of the most handsome men alive?
Do you look the same way as when you were 18?
…and you call people bilge ?
@ BAFBFP….
Its ok…sometimes we just can’t help but feed the trolls….they need the nourishment, it seems 😉

Keep in mind that Pittman’s analysis was delivered six months before the market collapse in the fall of 2008.

Why is it that the financial news (especially Fox and CNBC) has time for every idiot with an opinion regardless of how loopy, but few people have ever heard of Mark Pittman?

Pittman was the first person in history to sue the Federal Reserve (along with his employer Bloomberg News.)

He won – and you never heard of him.

Strange. – Brasscheck

The man wiv no name!!

Some things and some times are too heavy for banter … my God man … let it be

FYI, I have had over 20 years experience in this Christian field of ministry, first hand, it is not nice at all, and I know a demonically infested man/woman when I see one, and Gadahfi is a seriously and sadly infested man with Demons, one of the most obvious I have ever seen on the public scene!

Zoe… SMH…

Again I ask you, you have NEVER met the man in person, how then can you even begin to diagnose his problems?
By looking at people’s face you can determine demonic possession?
That being the case, I can give you a long list of people, who, by your experience and judgment, need an exorcist .

When I asked ..”WTF is critical thinking?’…it was asked in a sarcastic manner because as we all know, it all comes down to who is thinking what and where their biases lie.

You would come on BU and say that one look at a man, whom you have never met or spoken to, that he is possessed by demons…..and you accuse people of talking bilge??

Other than you Bible lessons, what can you teach anyone with such a hatred and bias for anything Arab or Muslim, as can be seen by your track record here on BU?

I am happy and successful in my current field and prosper greatly from it as I am VERY skilled in it.
As always, another opinion or a simple question always gets you riled up…..what does that say?
Looking at a man on TV and you KNOW he is demonically possessed …..You are on a roll Zoe, continue!!

Here again, we have reference to the criticality of the oil supply, to the financial issues, which have to be taken as relevant to the current Middle East crisis.

Note again, this is not from a ‘rag’, this is from the British Guardian, referring the assessment by Shell Oil, of the current status of the oil supply.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2011/mar/28/oil-reserves-shell-supply?INTCMP=SRCH

In the dark over oil reservesShell says we’re entering a ‘zone of uncertainty’ over oil supply – a frank admission it hasn’t a clue what’s going to happen
Andrew Simms guardian.co.uk, Monday 28 March 2011 13.00

There is a perverse circular logic to George Osborne using tax revenues from the oil companies to subsidise our national car habit. It may worsen long-term energy security, obstruct the shift to a low-carbon economy and leave us vulnerable to uncontrollable global events, but it makes short-term political sense to the government.

Just how big a gamble Osborne is making becomes clear when you look at how the oil companies themselves see the future.

Looking into its crystal ball of energy scenarios, Shell breaks down where it thinks we’ve got to, and where we might be going in a new report called Signals & Signposts. It warns that we face an upcoming “zone of uncertainty” – a frank admission that, really, it hasn’t a clue what is going to happen. Then it labels a large block of time between now and 2050 as a “zone of extraordinary opportunity or misery” (Shell’s involvement in the Niger delta demonstrates that the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive).

Using optimistic assumptions, the company nevertheless sees a gap emerging by 2050 between “business-as-usual-supply” and “business-as-usual-demand”, a gap so large that it is equal to the size of the whole industry in the year 2000.

The US mission in Saudi Arabia, a country long relied on to increase production when times are hard, recently questioned in a cable made available by WikiLeaks, “whether they any longer have the power to drive [oil] prices down for a prolonged period”. Such revelations make the markets jittery. Events like those in Libya make them jump. And the industry is already embroiled in problems elsewhere.

For example, it can no longer safely rely for slack production on the potential of more marginal fields, such as the Macondo prospect in the Gulf of Mexico, now famous as the scene of BP’s Deepwater Horizon debacle.

US giant Chevron is paying for big display adverts that declare: “Oil companies should support the communities they’re part of.” But it’s unlikely that they’ll do so by complying with the courts in Ecuador who recently fined the company £5bn, half its annual profit, for polluting the communities that “they’re part of”. Unhappy BP sees output falling in key countries like the US, Russia and the UK, and is now caught up with dark machinations in Russia that smack of the old days of the “great game”.

The whole industry is faced with the odd prospect that the more successfully they conduct their core business, of finding and pumping oil, the more quickly they will do themselves out of a job. A comparison of numerous forecasts by Steve Sorrell and colleagues, published in the journal Energy Policy, revealed a list of 56 oil-producing countries already apparently past their point of peak production. They concluded that any forecast putting the global peak and decline of oil production more than a couple of decades away was based on assumptions that were “at best optimistic and at worst implausible”. Some thought it had already happened, more still that it would occur in the next five years. When markets decide that the moment has come, the foundations of the economy could change as fast as a Middle Eastern regime.

But within the industry there remains the same kind of blithe confidence in its ability to continue as before, propping up our economy and lifestyles, that governments just a few years ago placed in the banking system.

The cost of oil imports as a share of GDP for the US, Europe and Japan is back around the level it was in 2008, at between 2-3%, roughly double the average for the past four decades. That doesn’t sound much, but it’s misleading. Because, in effect, 100% of the productive activities that comprise GDP depend on energy.

The Shell report spoke of “volatile transition”, and of economic outlooks that range from “severe-yet-sharp” to “deeper-and-longer” and the marvellously catchy, if dated, “Depression 2.0”.

With so much insight, it is remarkable then, that Shell, like BP, has reversed at speed out of renewable energy. Shell dropped investment in wind, solar and hydrogen energy in 2009, the same year BP closed the London HQ of BP Alternative Energy, along with its solar plants in the US and Spain.

Fatih Birrol, chief economist at the International Energy Agency, says we have moved beyond Shell’s “uncertainty” into the “danger zone” for the global economy.

It’s been tempting to speculate that Britain is returning to the 1970s. We’re teetering around recession, there’s upheaval in the Middle East and concern about the rising price of oil is spilling over from the cost of filling a petrol tank to filling a fridge with food.

But if problems with production, politics and price combine, the danger is that this may be less a repeat of Britain in the 1970s, and more like Cuba in the 1990s when it suddenly lost access to cheap cold war oil.

On the bright side, almost overnight, Cuba took to urban organic farming, walking, cycling, mending, repairing and reusing what it already had. Cubans might not have chosen to be so, but they became the modern age’s first previously addicted explorers of a world beyond oil, and they found themselves much healthier and with some of the best mechanics in the world. The harder we cling to the comfort of oil, the sooner we might not have that choice either.

@Technician, “I am happy and successful in my current field and prosper greatly from it as I am VERY skilled in it.”

I am also glad for you, as I am sure you have the ‘critical’ expertise in order to evaluate properly in your specified field of work, great!!!

As every discipline HAS its own criteria, system of critical process, which others outside of IT, are ignorant of! Isn’t this true?

Obviously, I would be ignorant (lacking knowledge, understanding) in your I believe (Technical) field of expertise, so I don’t venture there , as I do NOT have the critical, criteria to make any reasonable, rational judgment, so I stay silent, and be willing to learn, reasonable, Yes!

Regarding Gadahfi, I AGAIN, ask you: “Tell me Bildge Pumper, what clinical experience have you had, re the demonically infested, have you ever studied OR participated in any group deliverance ministry.”

All across America recently, the TV actor Sheen, has been seen and heard in his terrible dysfunctional, wierd behaviour, and a number of professionals, i.e., Dr. Drew, who have NEVER met him personally, but have seen and observed him, on TV, being interviewed, plus the police reports, have, with their expertise, given reasonably sound, professional assestments, of what Sheens’s underlying problems are; did they have to interview him personally, in order to understand what is eating him away? NO, similarly, in my field, I don’t have to met Gadahfi personally, to see what is driving his personality, as I know from much clinical experience, when a Demon(s) are manifesting through the facial and eye expression(s) of someone like Gadahfi, and this AIN’T got nothing to do with him being a Muslim, as Demonic infestation, and influence is not peculiar to only Muslims, it is also widespread in Wester civilization, white, black, and every other colour there is, as demons do not discriminate, neither does SIN, which HAS NO colour!

Over the few years I’ve been posting on BU, I have repeatedly tried to give some insight into the necessity for Logical, critical thinking, in order to evaluate the facts and evidence thus presented, otherwise, all sorts of illogical, unreasonable conclusions ensue, as we’ve seen over and over again.

There are Basic Laws of Logic, and the Criteria for Assessing Worldviews, which point us toward being able to think critically*.

Although there are different types of Logic, there are certain fundamental logical laws* that are necessary for thought* and rationality*. These logical laws point us toward truth.

It is imperative to understand that Logic is NOT simply a description* of the way we think, or how we usually come to conclusions ( i.e., the way thinking IS), no, this would be reducing Logic to psychology. Rather, Logic IS prescriptive*; in that, it tells us HOW we OUGHT to think. It offers basic rules for coming to correct conclusions, and it offers correctives* to faulty thinking.

So, there is a moral* diminsion to logic and to knowledge. We ought to think as logically as we can, and we ought* to eliminate as many bad beliefs as possible and embrace as many good beliefs as possible. To neglect to do so is not only bad thinking; it is actually wrong* and IS, actually a suppression of truth*, a turning away from the path of seeking truth!

When devious men, with suprious agendas, deceitfully use inverted critical thinking, it is, invariably to deceive those who do NOT understand the facts, evidence, and truth; i.e., the athiestic evolutionary materialists, are pastmasters at foisting their pseudo-scientific agenda, on unsuspecting ignorant people, seeking to masqurade their false science under the guise of facts.

When true correct critical thinking, is introduced into this arena of pseudo-science, people are beginning to see and understand the facts and evidence as there ARE!

Nationalist | March 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM |

One thing for sure, Ghadaffi was not wasting much of his millions on the training of his soldiers. Imagine his relatively well equipped army being pushed back and routed by a rag tag army of civilians and a turn coats.

Not hard to imagine if you take into account daily air-strikes by NATO for over a week.
Not to mention the equipment supplied to the ‘rag tag’ army, many of whom are seasoned fighters from ‘you know ‘ who.
Any troop movement by the Government forces is seen as aggression towards the ‘rag tag’ army and is immediately snuffed out by air-strikes……taking all this into consideration and it’s not hard to imagine at all.

@Zoe: “So, there is a moral* diminsion to logic and to knowledge. We ought to think as logically as we can, and we ought* to eliminate as many bad beliefs as possible and embrace as many good beliefs as possible.

Please forgive me for this, but logic is absolutely amoral. Logic is solely based on mathematics. (1+1==2; true. 1+3==5; false. If X is an odd integer and Y is an even integer, then X+Y is an odd integer; true. All crows are black; true. All black birds are crows; possibly true without further empirical evidence. With further empirical evidence, false.)

Thus, I take exception to your use of the term “bad beliefs”. I would use the term “incorrect beliefs” instead.

I also take exception to your use of the term “good beliefs”. I would use the term “possibly true beliefs” instead.

…although I understand why you have used the particular terms you have, based on your particular agenda….

@Crusoe

Your point is taken but given the current scenario picking the low hang fruit is the better option.

@Technician, “Do you think I can stand outside a building or stare at a pc and determine what is wrong with the network?”

Come now man, what kind of analogy is this, vis-a-vis a living, breathing, human being, as in the case with Gadahfi; can a pc talk, does it have ‘eyes’ that move, and a mouth that speaks? Really!!

Secondly, I am a stickler for words, you ask me about my definition of demonic possession!

Please not carefully, that I NEVER used the term or word, ‘possession* in referencing Gadahfi, I specifically used the word, ‘infestation’ NOT possession, as they are two entirely different matters, and terribly misunderstood, even by some Christians and theologians. Possession, by definition implies ‘ownership’ complete control, of a thing or entity, wheras, infestation, or the indwelling presence of a demon or demons, is only partial accupation, of the soul (mind, intellect, will, etc) or various parts of the physical, biological body.

This is a very, very complex subject, not easily understood, and also very misunderstood by secular (unbelieving) Psychiatrist and Psychologist et al professionals, who only see these kinds of mental and other disorders as been ‘mental’ not in anyway ‘spiritual’ i.e., demonically oriente

Demons are very evil, wicked spirit beings, and know how to play the game well, especially when it comes to tricking the non-believing Psyciatrist et al into not wanting them and the patient to be healed/delivered, and to keep then entraped for years, even the balace of their lives, on medication, which appears to help the symptoms, but, the underlying causes, are never properly addressed.

Any competent, Doctor, especially like Dr. Drew, in his field of speciality, in relation to TV personality Sheen, could observe him talking on TV, his well noted explosive behaviour, involving police, etc, and without having personally sat with him, come to a reasonable accuarate assessment, medically. Of course, I’m of the view, just like Gadahfi, that Sheen is also demonically infested, indwelt by demon entities, NOT possessed!

Technician

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

@BAFBFP: “I am here to gather information that cannot be obtained anywhere else. My kids on the other hand tweet and talk to their friends, very much like the overwhelming majority of Barbadians … sorry

To whom are you apologizing?

Might you hope, BAFBFP, to teach your kids (read: your children) how to think without the need of anything except their own minds and their background?

@Zoe: “Tell me Halsall, is it just ‘correct’ to love and honour your Mother, amorally speaking, or is it not ‘good’ and ‘right’ to love and honor her.

Very cleaver. And I appreciate it.

But, my Mother (who is also a very cleaver woman) would have wished I had asked if the claimed Jesus Christ had a booking agent for his next return….

Christopher Halsall

Yah autistic assburger …!

@Zoe

I agree with you. Unfortunately, this is the kind of behaviour you get in an unregulated board. It tends to pander to the lowest common denominator.

There is a war on for world governance (NEW WORLD ORDER) and the United States and Britain are leading the way because the corporate Oligarchs are getting desperate…you can see it by their desperate actions in Libya..news reporters side by side with rebels against Ghadaffi..lol.

http://www.infowars.com/libya-war-for-world-government/

Obama says…..’It was in the ‘National’ interest of the US to stop a potential massacre.’

What happened in Yemen and Bahrain?…..a picnic?

Crus, some uh d responses song suh childish tuh me dat i has tuh laugh! mus b because i grew up in Britian! tek dis 1 for instance:
“What happened in Yemen and Bahrain?…..a picnic?

LOL! d US’s economic woes notwithstanding, den when they do intervene, dese same ****s will no doubt criticise dem for ‘wanting to b the world’s policemen’!!! LOL! u caan please a Bajee n, coh blihey, i in got nuh intention uh trying eida!! LOL!!

Crusoe….

*sigh*smh*
DNFTT!!
…..Trust me, I would know 😉

@Lol.

Again, on Libya, surprise surprise! (I will post the link but only an excerpt, to save space) From cnn

‘(CNN) — European and American leaders weighed the pros and cons of arming Libya’s rebels Wednesday — a possibility made more urgent by a series of new military setbacks for forces seeking to topple strongman Moammar Gadhafi……..
British Prime Minister David Cameron told the House of Commons Wednesday that the United Nations Security Council mandate “allows all necessary measures to protect civilians and populated areas (and) this would not necessarily rule out provision of assistance to those protecting civilians in certain circumstances.” http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/30/arming.libya.rebels/index.html?hpt=T1

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Again, France appears to be at the foremost push to assist the ‘rebels’.

David Cameron is trying to bring this assistance within the ‘fold’ of protecting civilians.

So, you see this is not about protecting civilians, this is and has always been about removing Gaddafi.

So, any guesses as to who started these rebels on their way?

Monkey showing he tail.

The sooner the allies finish cutting Gadaffi backside n giving victory to the rebels, the happier I’ll b. I doan know wha duh tekking suh long fuh. It’s inevitable that it’ll happen PLUS, I ORDAIN IT!

C, i thought the war would have been over by now. NATO’s pussy-footing over all these matters while, in the meantime, leaving innocent people to suffer. i just thank god that neither u nor i am one of the innocents cowering in one of these lawless countries for NATO to come and save us or, from all appearances, we’d both b dead by the time they got there! Mind u, Cameron’s just left for his holidays. meks u laugh, doesn’t it! also makes me wonder what’s the point of NATO if that’s the half-dead way in which they’re going to act!