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The Late Colonel Muammar Gaddafi

The imperialist powers under the NATO slogan today continued five hundred years of genocide, murder and thief against the peoples of color of the world. It is particularly horrifying to see the world powers which just a few months ago were begging Muammar Gadhafi to buy their military materiel to better control his population are now having their useful idiots drag his bloodied, naked body through the streets of Sirte. Having been the victim of a NATO strike as he fled battle and having been captured, a mob proceeded to shoot a virtually defenceless man to the head and then concocted a fairy tale about battlefield crossfire. The pallbearers, like vultures were quick to commandeer the corpse. These included the milquetoast war president with the Nobel Peace Prize – Obama, the Zionist Sarkozy, Cameron and Hilary Clinton. They were quick to justify a cruel United Nations Resolution sponsoring a fourth generation humanitarian war supposedly for the protection of the Libyan civilians from a ‘tyrant’ but whose real interest was regime change. Regime change could allow the powers to better exploit the natural resources of Libya in order to sure up the collapsing French and British economies.

We are well aware that the conservative majority within this readership can’t wait to mouth the well known critique of Muammar Gaddafi (and his sons), largely because we expect them to be viewed as the other. Please permit us however to register our own frustrations before we tender some of his admirable qualities. Maummar Gadhafi and his sons ruled too long and too brutally over loving peoples; they squandered much of the wealth of the peoples; lived lifestyles that seemed inconsistent with some tenets of Islam; was said to be the plotter of the Lockerbie bombing; was said to have bombed a discotheque in Frankfurt; was said to have imprisoned, tortured and killed many of his fellow citizens; was a site used by the Americans and the NATO Alliance to torture suspected ‘terrorists’; invited to Libya then disappeared Imam Musa Sadr, the Shite Lebanese holy man and his companions; gave irrational responses to legitimate calls for popular political ‘democracy’ and used the military against unarmed civilians which in itself meets the definition of war crimes and crimes against humanity as defined under the Geneva Conventions of 1948. None of this and more has been properly denied.

As a ‘civilized’ society though, we must consider the utility of having people executed without judicial review and where this barbaric conduct could lead us. And now that Obama, the custodian of human rights, has executed American citizens extra-judicially we must ponder the extent to which his actions set a precedent for other leaders of the so-called ‘free world’? And how is this behavior any different to that of the so-called tin pot Dictators westerners constantly complain about? Should the leaders of the world powers not themselves be cited for war crimes, or could they continue to insist on victors’ justice? Is the International Court of Justice (ICC), with the exception of the Serbian war criminals, meant solely for African Leaders and the other ‘enemies’ of the West?

The imperial hubris of Barack Obama is in this regards much worse than that of Bush, the younger. Bush warehoused his presumptive enemies at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, Bhagram Air Force Base, Afghanistan and many other secret prisons around the globe under the near absence of standard judicial processes. These actions represent war crimes and crimes against humanity that the ACLU and others have argued for. But Obama is seeking to avoid Bush’s pretense about justice with detention centers and tribunals by breaking all international laws through the extrajudicial killings of Anwar Al-Awlaki, Bin Laden, Abdulraham al-Awlaki, the sixteen year old son, and many others. In addition, for every one suspected terrorist Obama says he kills in the Afghanistan tribal areas and the border regions of Pakistan there are about 141 documented innocent men, women and children who died and which Western media never mention. They are of little importance.

In addition Obama is killing people every day in the famine stricken country of Somalia using drone aircrafts. Yesterday he murdered 26 Somalis using predator drones. In Yemen, the American president feels it is fit and proper to murder civilians even in circumstances where the Yemeni peoples, in their millions, are fighting the oppressive Western-backed, Saudi sponsored, brutal dictator Ali Abdullah Saleh. One can only conclude that Obama’s war doctrine is predicated on the notion that the blood of people of color is less valuable than the blood of white people. Those of us in the peace and justice movement suspected that Gadhafi would soon be eliminated once we saw this ‘prince of peace’ deploying 100 American soldiers to Uganda supposedly to fight rebel there. It was the said Gadhafi who had worked tirelessly to frustrate the American attempts to set up the Africom military apparatus on African soil as consistent with American policy of full spectrum dominance. The African Union, under Gadhafi leadership had decided that Africom should not be provided with military bases on the continent. Further the removal of Gadhafi not only opens up Africa to American militarism but also has implications for the wider geo-political, geo-strategic machinations of the West as they try to counter China’s global rise.

It was Gadhafi who helped to open up Africa to the Chinese. It was Gadhafi who supported global liberation struggles in the sub-continent and elsewhere. Gadhafi funded many projects in Africa. It was Gadhafi who apologized for the Arab role in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade; Gadhafi thought Libya to be a black African country and deemphasized Arabism; he was the one who set up an African development model to rid countries from the vultures of the IMF and World Bank. He was the significant mover behind the African Union. His country has no national debt. He had long converted much of Libya’s wealth into gold and Libya was a leading country as measured by its relative holdings of reserves. He found water in the desert and piped it for miles to his peoples. It was Maummar Gadhafi who greened large areas of the Libyan Desert. Every Libyan is entitled to education, health care and a house after marriage if one could not be afforded. If medical care was unavailable in Libya citizens were sent abroad. Libyan resources are owned by Libya to the envy of French and British corporations.  It was Obama’s military industrial complex, as the controller of NATO, which provided the assets for the French, British and a coalition of the willing to destroy Gadhafi. We consider however that Libya will not sit quietly and allow Cameron and Sarkozy to feast on its corpse.

Few of us are saddened by the end of the Peoples’ Socialist Libyan Jamahiriya founded through the Al-Fateh Revolution of 42 years ago. It comes at a time when dominos are falling all over North Africa and the Middle East and may soon extend elsewhere. Our reading of the geo-strategic circumstance suggests that several other Western backed fiefdoms and/or dictatorships in the region are likely to follow. These could include Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. We are not however, unconvinced that the so-called Western democracies or even China will be sheltered for this global revival of the revolutionary spirit of 1968 that is erupting everywhere around the globe. While the US will like to see instability in China and is continuing a strategy to encircle China it is unlikely the USA will want to see the fall of the most autocratic dictatorship of all – Saudi Arabia. However, demonstrations are continuing apace in the eastern provinces. When the House of Saud starts to burn no one in the West will be able to put it out.


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  1. @Sargeant

    I would agree that the truth is in the eye of the beholder. It reminds me of Pilate’s response to Jesus in “What is Truth?”

    The media has a way of making the 2% appear as the 98% in whatever issue it might support.

    This is one of the reasons persons are turning to the Youtube’s and Social platforms to get their points across.


  2. Guy Fawkes | October 27, 2011 at 9:32 PM | @Sargeant

    “I would agree that the truth is in the eye of the beholder. It reminds me of Pilate’s response to Jesus in “What is Truth?”

    Sorry GF, as Truth’ by definition is absolute, regarless of who ever denies this reality. Truth, does not need anyone’s approval or acceptance to be Truth. Reality IS synonymous with Truth, and Truth is unyielding, one can choose to ignore it, scorn it, or even curse it, but all to know avail; in the end Truth impassively stands its ground in the face of the most overpowering emotional, verbal, and pseudo-intellectual onslaughts.

    Down through the ages people have asked the same question Pilate asked Jesus! What is truth. What exactly is it?

    While being questioned by Pilate, Jesus said, “…I have come into this world that I should bear WITNESS to the TRUTH. Everyone who is of the TRUTH, hears My voice.” ( John 18: 37b,38a Emphasis added)

    Cultural and moral ‘relativism’ that there is no absolute or objective truth, found its way through Postmodernism, that period of thought that follows, and is a reaction to the period called modernity, which developed out of the Renaissance ( 14th-17th centuries) and flourished in the Enlightenment (17th-19th centuries).

    Enlightenment naturalism, and its evil cohort, Evolutionary Materialism, and postmodern ANTI-REALISM, which grew out of the above, are arrayed in an unholy alliance against a broadly theistic, and specifically Christian world view. And, quite naturally, cultural and moral relativism, that there is no such thing as Absolute Truth, also known as ‘Objective’ truth, came along with anti-realism and so-called Enlightenment naturalism.

    That Truth, by definition IS* absolute, is confirmed by the three fundamental Laws of classic Logic, which are themselves absolute Truth, and are universal, regardless of culture, race, creed, or ethnicity, applying to ALL men, every where all the time!

    1) The Law of Identity
    2) The Law of Non-Contradiction, and
    3) The Law of Excluded Middle

    Assessing ‘World views’ bears out the utterly fundamental grounding of Logic for thinking critically, objectively, coherently, about Truth and competing World views. These Logic Laws point us toward truth.

    Unfortunately, and sadly, many Ph.D’s such as Dawkins, Hawkins, et al in various disciplines have NO knowledge or training in the Philosophy subjects of epistemology, logic, or metaphysics, hence, their UTTER ignorance in not being able to think Critically, Logically, or coherently, when it comes to analysizing FACTS and evidence.

    Such is the price one pays for IGNORANCE, lacking knowledge!


  3. Free mandela
    Free mandela from the boy botha


  4. Mr. de hood, question for you, did you by chance have a head on collision
    where there might have been some damage to the lateral frontal cortex? That is the area of the brain that deals with ‘ intelligence’.

    Or could be some chromosomal abnormality , Trisomy 13 or 18 ?
    If none of the above , then I suggest you consider the low ‘g’ test ( g for general intelligence). I don’t know if you have available in Barbados the access to something called positron emission tomography. You can google that along with psychometrics and see if , first you understand , and then how it can be used to inform you of your rather obvious predicament.

    There are one or two others here who might also derive some benefit from it.
    It seems like you have a hatred for the truth as is explained by Zoe, you and many others who find it too difficult to swallow. It clearly gives a severe case of moral dyspepsia.

    The sun rises in the east tomorrow whether you like it or not, likewise there is only one God , whether you like it or not. Jesus is the Word. Rev19:13 To reject God’s word is to reject Jesus, I might add at your own peril.

  5. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @PhD:
    The sun rises in the east tomorrow whether you like it or not, likewise there is only one God , whether you like it or not.
    And not even your god Jesus can stop it unless there is a pole shift caused by his return to Earth!!

    I might be one of those poor lost souls with “some damage to the lateral frontal cortex” but please indulge a simpleton like me (as Jesus would have done) and explain the following:
    Whom was Jesus speaking to when he was dying on the cross- and made the following comments?
    Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they’re doing.” (Luke 23:34)

    “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” (Mark 15:34) (Sounds like the opening of Psalm 22).

    If, as you keep on positing that Jesus is God and they are both one and the same, then these sayings fit in neatly with your understanding of the causes of self delusional madness and schizophrenia suffered by those human beings that you so readily denounce.


  6. Mr. miller/taki, I did not denounce anyone, and certainly would NOT make light of someone’s physical or mental handicaps , on the contrary.I merely asked some quetions which might enable the person to diagnose an acute condition. I am not without my own faults.

    As a matter of fact , an endocrinologist friend of mine once reminded me , ‘ we all have some kind of syndrome, whether already identified or not’. The severity of these handicaps/abnormalities can, and does vary significantly.

    I see that you are rather selective and impartial in your judgement when it applies to YOUR ill perceived ‘denouncing of human beings’ . Does the same NOT apply to mr. de hood in his post when he makles reference to Zoe?

    The very nature of my job is to investigate thoroughly all angles, possibilties, facts, before coming to a final conclusion. In the end , I and everyone else involved are better off for it. INFORMED and BALANCED. Conversely if I close my mind and see only what I want to see , DISASTER results, right down to the personal level.

    I may very well be equally lost, but I owe it to myself to to seek the truth whereever it is to be found.

    To answer your question, ‘ Eli Eli, lema sabachthani? my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Jesus was fully human, and fully experienced the pain of death. Possibly one of the greatest pains of death is separation. Since Jesus was infinitely intimate with God the father, so no one else could have experienced this pain more than he. So Jesus prays (Psalm 22).Since Jesus is also so intimately concerned for our well being, both physically and spiritually, He prays this passage not just silently, but out loud. Please consider the following:

    John 11:41-43
    “And Jesus raised his eyes and said, ‘Father, I thank you for hearing me. I know that you always hear me; but because of the crowd here I have said this, that they may believe that you sent me.’ … ‘Lazarus, come out !’ ”

    Two things can be seen from this passage. First, the Father always hears the Son. Second, Jesus prays out loud for the benefit of His hearers. Therefore, when he prayed Psalm 22, out loud, from the cross he brings to His followers’ mind’s the triumphal meaning that is revealed at the end of that Psalm. Jesus knew that His listeners would have been reminded of the rest of that prayer.

    Go in peace my friend.


  7. @nnuki, Writing to Ph.D, states:
    “If, as you keep on positing that Jesus is God and they are both one and the same, then these sayings fit in neatly with your understanding of the causes of self delusional madness and schizophrenia suffered by those human beings that you so readily denounce.”If, as you keep on positing that Jesus is God and they are both one and the same, then these sayings fit in neatly with your understanding of the causes of self delusional madness and schizophrenia suffered by those human beings that you so readily denounce.

    Nnuki, as far as I have read, neither Ph.D, nor me, have posited “…that they ARE BOTH one and the same.”

    Yes, Jesus Christ IS* God the Son, the Second Person of the Eternal Godhead, distinct from His Father, but at NO TIME have I posited that “…they are BOTH ONE and the same” as you have grossly stated.

    They are TWO DISTINCT PERSONS, within the Eternal Godhead, The Father is NOT the Son, neither is the Son the Father,, likewise the Holy Spirit, the third Person of the Eternal Godhead, is neither The Father or The Son.

    The Scriptures give us the revelation of the Eternal Godhead, who has revealed Himself as One God, existing in Three Persons, even The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit; distinguishable, but, indivisible in essence; Co-eternal, Co-existent, Co-equal in nature, attributes, power and glory. There is but ONE Eternal Godhead, who is One undivided and indivisible essence; and in this One essence there are THREE ETERNAL Persons, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

    No man can fully fathom or understand this, it is beyond our finite minds, but, it IS* the revelation of Almighty God about Himself, and the eternal Godhead, as given in His word, the Scriptures; with distinct operations of each of the THREE eternal Persons in many passages throughout His Word, the Bible, especially in the fuller revelation as we find in the New Testament.

    Get your facts straight, and stop misquoting or misrepresenting others on this matter.

    So, If anyone is suffering from “…self-delusional madness and schizophrenia…” it would have to be YOU!!!

  8. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe:
    “They are TWO DISTINCT PERSONS, within the Eternal Godhead, The Father is NOT the Son, neither is the Son the Father”.

    What kind of misogynistic bull are you spewing forth? Where is the female in all this sexist crap?
    Even the much maligned (by you) Catholic Church recognizes the divine role played by the female.

    If you had said God the Father, the Mother Goddess and God the Son I might just try to understand your Godhead.
    Your description of the “Three in One Godhead” sounds very much Hindu in origin!
    As usual, go ahead and condemn and dismiss out of hand a large swathe of mankind whose civilization precedes your questionable Judeo-Christian plagiaristic story tellers.

    Go and do some research on Astral Theology and you will find out who your Jesus really represents in the grand scheme of things far beyond your Adam & Eve / Cain & Abel / Noah and the Ark simplistic interpretation of Genesis.


  9. @MTA: “Your description of the “Three in One Godhead” sounds very much Hindu in origin!

    Hindu is compatible.

    Buddhism is compatible.

    Agnostic is compatible.

    Incompatible to be an unquestioning Believer….

  10. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ CH:
    But the gods in their games need toys like Zoe!
    Same as the politicians need their die-hard stupes to rant and rave at their public performances and hypocritical sweet talk!
    As above, so below!!


  11. @MTA: “But the gods in their games need toys like Zoe!

    Ah, no.

    No one needs anyone as pathetic as Zoe.


  12. The following is a concise summation, of the utter SATANICALLY inspired, Polytheistic, Paganistic, LIES and spiritual DECEPTION, of ancient and modern civilizations, that have bought into the Devil’s plans to deceive multitudes, which he has been able to DUPE throughout the course of human history, and with present days fools like NNUKI et al!

    Solar deities throughout culturesIn different religions solar supreme deities carry different names and are associated with different aspects of the cultural universe of the society, but for the most part its raw image remains identical.

    The Neolithic concept of a solar barge, the sun as traversing the sky in a boat, is found in the later myths of ancient Egypt, with Ra and Horus. Earlier Egyptian myths imply that the sun is within the lioness, Sekhmet, at night and can be seen reflected in her eyes or that it is within the cow, Hathor during the night, being reborn each morning as her son (bull). Proto-Indo-European religion has a solar chariot, the sun as traversing the sky in a chariot.

    During the Roman Empire, a festival of the birth of the Unconquered Sun (or Dies Natalis Solis Invicti) was celebrated on the winter solstice — the “rebirth” of the sun. In Germanic mythology this is Sol, in Vedic Surya, and in Greek Helios (occasionally referred to as Titan) and (sometimes) as Apollo. Mesopotamian Shamash plays an important role during the Bronze Age, and “my Sun” is eventually used as an address to royalty. Similarly, South American cultures have emphatic Sun worship, see Inti. Svarog is the Slavic god sun and spirit of fire.

    During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a “solar monotheism.” Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of solar qualities. The feast of Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun) on December 25 was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the celebrated birthday of Christ.[1]

    [edit] Hinduism
    SuryaThe Ādityas are one of the principal deities of the Vedic classical Hinduism belonging to Solar class. In the Vedas, numerous hymns are dedicated to Mitra, Varuna, Savitr etc.

    Even the Gayatri mantra, which is regarded as one of the most sacred of the Vedic hymns is dedicated to Savitr, one of the principal Ādityas. The Adityas are a group of solar deities, from the Brahmana period numbering twelve. The ritual of sandhyavandanam, performed by Hindus, is an elaborate set of hand gestures and body movements, designed to greet and revere the Sun.

    The sun god in Hinduism is an ancient and revered deity. In later Hindu usage, all the Vedic Ādityas lost identity and metamorphosed into one composite deity, Surya, the Sun. The attributes of all other Ādityas merged into that of Surya and the names of all other Ādityas became synonymous with, or epithets of, Surya.

    The Ramayana has Rama as a descendant of the Surya, thus belonging to the Suryavansha or the clan of the Sun. The Mahabharata describes one of its warrior heroes, Karna, as being the son of the Pandava mother Kunti and Surya.

    The sun god is said to be married to the goddess Ranaadeh, also known as Sanjnya. She is depicted in dual form, being both sunlight and shadow, personified. The goddess is revered in Gujarat and Rajasthan.

    The charioteer of Surya is Aruna, who is also personified as the redness that accompanies the sunlight in dawn and dusk. The sun god is driven by a seven-horsed Chariot depicting the seven days of the week.

    In India, at Konark, in the state of Orissa, a temple is dedicated to Surya. The Konark Sun Temple has been declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Surya is the most prominent of the navagrahas or nine celestial objects of the Hindus. Navagrahas can be found in almost all Hindu temples. There are further temples dedicated to Surya, one in Arasavilli, Srikakulam District in AndhraPradesh, one in Gujarat at Modhera and another in Rajasthan. The temple at Arasavilli was constructed in such a way that on the day of Radhasaptami, the sun’s rays directly fall on the feet of the Sri Suryanarayana Swami, the deity at the temple.

    Chhath (Hindi: छठ, also called Dala Chhath) is an ancient Hindu festival dedicated to Surya, the chief solar deity, unique to Bihar, Jharkhand and the Terai. This major festival is also celebrated in the northeast region of India, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, and parts of Chhattisgarh. Hymns to the sun can be found in the Vedas, the oldest sacred texts of Hinduism. Practiced in different parts of India, the worship of the sun has been described in the Rigveda. There is another festival called Sambha-Dasami, which is celebrated in the state of Orissa (India) for the surya.

    The Gurjars (or Gujjars), who belonged to Suryavansha, were Sun-worshipers and are described as devoted to the feet of the sun god Surya. Their copper-plate grants bear an emblem of the Sun and on their seals too, this symbol is depicted.[2]

    [edit] Ancient Egypt
    Isis, bearing her solar disk and horns nurses her infant, HorusSun worship was exceptionally prevalent in ancient Egyptian religion. The earliest deities associated with the sun are Wadjet, Sekhmet, Hathor, Nut, Bast, Bat, and Menhit. First Hathor, and then Isis, give birth to and nurse Horus and Ra. Hathor the horned-cow is one of the 12 daughters of Ra, gifted with joy and is a wet-nurse to Horus.

    The Sun’s movement across the sky represents a struggle between the Pharaoh’s soul and an avatar of Osiris. Ra travels across the sky in his solar-boat; at dawn he drives away the demon Apep of darkness. The “solarisation” of several local gods (Hnum-Re, Min-Re, Amon-Re) reaches its peak in the period of the fifth dynasty.

    Akhet (horizon)
    in hieroglyphs

    Rituals to the god Amun who became identified with the sun god Ra were often carried out on the top of temple pylons. A Pylon mirrored the hieroglyph for ‘horizon’ or akhet, which was a depiction of two hills “between which the sun rose and set”,[3] associated with recreation and rebirth. On the first Pylon of the temple of Isis at Philae, the pharaoh is shown slaying his enemies in the presence of Isis, Horus and Hathor. In the eighteenth dynasty, Akhenaten changed the polytheistic religion of Egypt to a monotheistic one, Atenism of the solar-disk and is the first recorded state monotheism. All other deities were replaced by the Aten, including Amun-Ra, the reigning sun god of Akhenaten’s own region. Unlike other deities, the Aten did not have multiple forms. His only image was a disk—a symbol of the sun.

    Soon after Akhenaten’s death, worship of the traditional deities was reestablished by the religious leaders (Ay the High-Priest of Amen-Ra, mentor of Tutankhaten/Tutankhamen) who had adopted the Aten during the reign of Akhenaten.

    [edit] Chinese mythology
    Taiyang Shen, the Chinese solar deityIn Chinese mythology (cosmology), there were originally ten suns in the sky, who were all brothers. They were supposed to emerge one at a time as commanded by the Jade Emperor. They were all very young and loved to fool around. Once they decided to all go into the sky to play, all at once. This made the world too hot for anything to grow. A hero named Hou Yi shot down nine of them with a bow and arrow to save the people of the earth. He is still honored this very day. In another myth, the solar eclipse was caused by the magical dog of heaven biting off a piece of the sun. The referenced event is said to have occurred around 2,160BCE. There was a tradition in China to make lots of loud celebratory sounds during a solar eclipse to scare the sacred “dog” away. The Deity of the Sun in Chinese mythology is Ri Gong Tai Yang Xing Jun (Tai Yang Gong / Grandfather Sun) or Star Lord of the Solar Palace, Lord of the Sun. In some mythologies, Tai Yang Xing Jun is believed to be Hou Yi. Tai Yang Xing Jun is usually depicted with the Star Lord of the Lunar Palace, Lord of the Moon, Yue Gong Tai Yin Xing Jun (Tai Yin Niang Niang / Lady Tai Yin).

    [edit] BuddhismIn Buddhist cosmology, the bodhisattva of the Sun is known as Ri Gong Ri Guang Pu Sa (The Bright Solar Bodhisattva of the Solar Palace) / Ri Gong Ri Guang Tian Zi (The Bright Solar Prince of the Solar Palace) / Ri Gong Ri Guang Zun Tian Pu Sa (The Greatly Revered Bright Solar Prince of the Solar Palace / one of the 20 or 24 guardian devas). In Sanskrit, He is known as Suryaprabha. He is usually depicted with Yue Gong Yue Guang Pu Sa (The Bright Lunar Bodhisattva of the Lunar Palace) / Yue Gong Yue Guang Tian Zi ( The Bright Lunar Prince of the Lunar Palace) / Yue Gong Yue Guang Zun Tian Pu Sa (The Greatly Revered Bright Lunar Prince of the Lunar Palace / one of the 20 or 24 guardian devas known as Candraprabha in Sanskrit. With Yao Shi Fo / Bhaisajyaguru Buddha (Medicine Buddha), these two bodhisattvas create the Dong Fang San Sheng or the Three Holy Sages of the East.

    [edit] AfricaThe Munshi tribe considers the Sun to be the son of the supreme being Awondo and the Moon is Awondo’s daughter. The Barotse tribe believes that the Sun is inhabited by the sky god Nyambi and the Moon is his wife. Even where the sun god is equated with the supreme being, in some African mythologies he or she does not have any special functions or privileges as compared to other deities.

    [edit] Aztec mythology This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2007)

    Tonatiuh as depicted in the Codex Telleriano-Remensis.In Aztec mythology, Tonatiuh (Nahuatl: Ollin Tonatiuh “Movement of the Sun”) was the sun god. The Aztec people considered him the leader of Tollan (heaven). He was also known as the fifth sun, because the Aztecs believed that he was the sun that took over when the fourth sun was expelled from the sky. According to their cosmology, each sun was a god with its own cosmic era. According to the Aztecs, they were still in Tonatiuh’s era. According to the Aztec creation myth, the god demanded human sacrifice as tribute and without it would refuse to move through the sky. It is said that 20,000 people were sacrificed each year to Tonatiuh and other gods, though this number is thought to be inflated either by the Aztecs, who wanted to inspire fear in their enemies, or the Spaniards, who wanted to vilify the Aztecs. The Aztecs were fascinated by the sun and carefully observed it, and had a solar calendar similar to that of the Maya. Many of today’s remaining Aztec monuments have structures aligned with the sun.

    In the Aztec calendar, Tonatiuh is the lord of the thirteen days from 1 Death to 13 Flint. The preceding thirteen days are ruled over by Chalchiuhtlicue, and the following thirteen by Tlaloc.

    [edit] Indonesian mythology This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2011)

    Solar gods have a stronger presence in Indonesian mythology. In some cases the Sun is revered as a “father” or “founder” of the tribe. This may apply for the whole tribe or only for the royal and ruling families. This practise is more common in Australia and on the island of Timor, where the tribal leaders are seen as direct heirs to the sun god.

    Some of the initiation rites include the second reincarnation of the rite’s subject as a “son of the Sun”, through a symbolic death and a rebirth in the form of a Sun. These rituals hint that the Sun may have an important role in the sphere of funerary beliefs. Watching the Sun’s path has given birth to the idea in some societies that the deity of the Sun descends in to the underworld without dying and is capable of returning afterward. This is the reason for the Sun being associated with functions such as guide of the deceased tribe members to the underworld, as well as with revival of perished. The Sun is a mediator between the planes of the living and the dead.

    [edit] TheosophyMain article: Spiritual Hierarchy#Cosmic beings functioning within the Sun
    The primary local deity in Theosophy is the Solar Logos, “the consciousness of the sun”.[4]

    [edit] Solar mythThree theories exercised great influence on nineteenth and early twentieth century mythography, beside the Tree worship of Mannhardt and the Totemism of J. F. McLennan, the “Sun myth” of Alvin Boyd Kuhn and Max Müller.

    R. F. Littledale criticized the Sun myth theory when he illustrated that Max Müller on his own principles was himself only a Solar myth, whilst Alfred Lyall delivered a still stronger attack on the same theory and its assumption that tribal gods and heroes, such as those of Homer, were mere reflections of the Sun myth by proving that the gods of certain Rajput clans were really warriors who founded the clans not many centuries ago, and were the ancestors of the present chieftains.[5]

    [edit] Solar barge / sun chariot
    Ra in his solar bargeA “solar barge” (also “solar bark”, “solar barque”, “solar boat”, “sun boat”) is a mythological representation of the sun riding in a boat. The “Khufu ship”, a 43.6-meter-long vessel that was sealed into a pit in the Giza pyramid complex at the foot of the Great Pyramid of Giza around 2500 BC, is a full-size surviving example which may have fulfilled the symbolic function of a solar barque. This boat was rediscovered in May 1954 when archeologist Kamal el-Mallakh and inspector Zaki Nur found two ditches sealed off by about 40 blocks weighing 17 to 20 tonnes each. This boat was disassembled into 1,224 pieces and took over 10 years to reassemble. A nearby museum was built to house this boat.[6]

    Other sun boats were found in Egypt dating to different pharonic dynasties.[7]

    Examples include:

    Neolithic petroglyphs which (it has been speculated) show solar barges
    The many early Egyptian goddesses who are related as sun deities and the later gods Ra and Horus depicted as riding in a solar barge. In Egyptian myths of the afterlife, Ra rides in an underground channel from west to east every night so that he can rise in the east the next morning.
    The Nebra sky disk, which (it has been speculated) features a depiction of a solar barge.
    Nordic Bronze Age petroglyphs, including those found in Tanumshede often contains barges and sun crosses in different constellations.
    A “sun chariot” is a mythological representation of the sun riding in a chariot. The concept is younger than that of the solar barge, and typically Indo-European, corresponding with the Indo-European expansion after the invention of the chariot in the 2nd millennium BC.

    Examples include:

    Trundholm sun chariot of the Nordic deity, Sól, drawn by Arvak and Alsvid
    Greek Helios riding in a chariot,[8] (see also Phaëton)[9]
    Sol Invictus depicted riding a quadriga on the reverse of a Roman coin.[10]
    Vedic Surya riding in a chariot drawn by seven horses
    The sun itself also was compared to a wheel, possibly in Proto-Indo-European, Greek hēliou kuklos, Sanskrit suryasya cakram, Anglo-Saxon sunnan hweogul (PIE *swelyosyo kukwelos).

    [edit] Female and male
    The warrior goddess Sekhmet, shown with her sun disk and cobra crownAmong modern English speakers, solar deities are popularly thought of as male counterparts of the lunar deity (usually female); however, sun goddesses are found on every continent (e.g. Amaterasu in Japanese belief) paired with male lunar deities. Among the earliest records of human beliefs, the early goddesses of the Egyptian pantheon carried a sun above their head as a symbol of dignity (as daughters of Ra). The sun was a major aspect of Egyptian symbols and hieroglyphs, all the lunar deities of that pantheon were male deities. The cobra (of Pharaoh Son of Ra), the lioness (daughter of Ra), the cow (daughter of Ra), the dominant symbols of the most ancient Egyptian deities, carried their relationship to the sun atop their heads; they were female and their cults remained active throughout the history of the culture. Later a sun god (Aten) was established in the eighteenth dynasty on top of the other solar deities, before the “aberration” was stamped out and the old pantheon re-established. When male deities became associated with the sun in that culture, they began as the offspring of a mother (except Ra, King of the Gods who gave birth to himself).

    Some mythologists, such as Brian Branston and Janet McCrickard, contend that sun goddesses are more common worldwide than their male counterparts. They also claim that the belief that solar deities are primarily male is linked to the fact that a few better known mythologies (such as those of late classical Greece and late Roman mythology) rarely break from this rule, although closer examination of the earlier myths of those cultures reveal a very different distribution than the contemporary popular belief. The dualism of sun/male/light and moon/female/darkness is found in many (but not all) late southern traditions in Europe that derive from Orphic and Gnostic philosophies.

    In Germanic mythology the Sun is female and the Moon is male. The corresponding Old English name is Siȝel [ˈsɪjel], continuing Proto-Germanic *Sôwilô or *Saewelô. The Old High German Sun goddess is Sunna. In the Norse traditions, every day, Sól rode through the sky on her chariot, pulled by two horses named Arvak and Alsvid. Sól also was called Sunna, Sunne, and Frau Sunne, from which are derived the words, sun and Sunday.

    [edit] Missing sun
    Amaterasu finally emerges from the caveThe missing sun is a theme[citation needed] in the myths of many cultures, sometimes including the themes of imprisonment, exile, or death. The missing sun is often used to explain various natural phenomena, including the disappearance of the sun at night, shorter days during the winter, and solar eclipses.

    Some other tales are similar, such as the Sumerian story of the goddess Inanna’s descent into the underworld. These may have parallel themes, but do not fit in this motif unless they concern a solar deity.

    In late Egyptian mythology, Ra passes through Duat (the underworld) every night. Apep has to be defeated in the darkness hours for Ra and his solar barge to emerge in the east each morning.

    In Japanese mythology, the sun goddess Amaterasu is startled by the behavior of her brother Susanoo and hides in a cave, plunging the world into darkness until she is willing to emerge.

    In Norse mythology, the gods Odin and Tyr both have attributes of a sky father, and they are doomed to be devoured by wolves (Fenrir and Garm, respectively) at Ragnarok. Sól, the Norse sun goddess, will be devoured by the wolf Skoll.

    [edit] See alsoAbram Smythe Palmer
    Ame-no-Uzume-no-Mikoto
    Beaivi
    Belenos
    Black Sun (deity)
    Black Sun (disambiguation)
    Canticle of the Sun
    Fire worship
    Five Suns
    Guaraci
    Heliocentrism
    July Morning
    Konark Sun Temple


  13. @Zoe.. To your October 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM above.

    Impressive. 3213 words.

    Until you notice the 13 instances of the exact phrase “[edit]”, and realize you’re simply cutting and pasting.


  14. Christopher Halsall

    As Technician would say, you are guilty of Feeding the Troll … DNFTT


  15. @BAFBFP: “As Technician would say, you are guilty of Feeding the Troll … DNFTT

    But as I think Techy (and you and others) would agree, there can be upside by feeding the Trolls poison.

    Particularly if they are feeding others.

  16. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    I am a python!

    I swallowed a whole jackass so I will hibernate on this topic for1 year.


  17. BAFBFP | October 22, 2011 at 3:16 AM |
    Sid Boyce and Colonel Buggy one ah de two ah wunna gotta be lawyers … that would half explain the level of stupidity that I hearing.
    *******************************************************************
    Looks as if they are more lawyers out there spouting more stupidity.
    http://www.thirdage.com/news/muammar-al-gaddafi-killers-will-be-prosecuted-says-officials_10-28-2011


  18. @ miller……….

    Seems like I also have to remind “Mr.”Ph.D about making sure to also take his prescribed medication from Dr. Mahy. Can you enlighten me just what Ph.D stands for again? These initials that seem to be floating around these days like flies on a dead animal (evahbody does got initials dese daze soul) tend to cornfoose muh at times.


  19. Idol worship
    “Idol and demon worship is the worship of a man made god. It can involve practices and rituals such as burning their sons or daughters in fire at the altar as burnt offerings for demons.
    Idol worship from the Bible’s perspective: The second commandment talks about `Idols’ and `Images’, “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form {of anything} in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.” (Exodus 20: 4)

    You shall not bow down to them; for I, the LORD your God, {am} a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and forth {generation} of those who hate me” (Exodus 20: 5).

    When you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars – all the heavenly array – do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshipping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.”(Deuteronomy 4: 19)

    “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.” (Exodus 23:13)

    The worship of nature or any other god is considered blasphemous.

    According to the Scriptures, the sins of the fathers are visited upon the third and fourth generations of those who disobey God. It is carefully pointed out in. Exodus 20:5 When the law was given, it specifically prohibited the construction and worship of graven images because they constitute the worship of demons.

    For those who disregard this warning and make contact with the occult spirits, there will be a terrible and certain repercussion in the form of sickness, misery, insanity, and sometimes an early death. There are many ways in which the occult spirits are given ground. Through various contacts they can cause marital upheaval and problems of all kinds (please see chapter five for more details). Unless the curse is broken it will continue to plague the family and its descendants to the third and fourth generations. It predisposes people to be psychically oriented and sensitive; and through psychic heredity, to pick up more curses and spirits, thus extending the hereditary blight to many generations.

    Witchcraft is an act of the devil which not only manipulates the minds of people, but it can wreak havoc physically, emotionally and spiritually too.

    Those who engage in witchcraft, literally open themselves up to the attacks and manipulations of our enemy, Satan. This then demonstrates the awesome power which can be wielded by those who practice the occult sciences.

    Witch doctors, magicians and sorcerers all receive satanic power, not for edification, but for destruction.

    The practice of spiritual prostitution both deprives and corrupts us. We must be very careful that we ourselves and those under our spiritual authority avoid engaging in any of the occult practices.

    If a person dabbles with psychic phenomena [spiritism, seances, levitation, necromancy, astral projection, table lifting, handwriting analysis, automatic type writing, visionary dreams, telepathy, materialization, clairvoyance, ghosts, healing magnetism, mental suggestion, speaking in a trance, amateur hypnosis, self-hypnosis, fortune-telling of any kind, tarot cards, palm reading, biorhythm, rod and pendulum (dowsing), horoscopes and astrology, Ouija Boards, witchcraft whether white, black, or gray, voodoo or joojoo, blood pacts, sorcery, love potions, fetishes, magic charming and talismans, eastern religions, Zoroastrian, Bahai faith, Freemasonry, Mysticism, transcendental meditation, Zen, Buddhism, karate, I-Ching, yoga, reincarnation, ESP, telepathy, hypnosis, scientology, the writings of mystics, and psychics such as Jean Dixon, Edgar Cayce and incubi , succubi (sexual spirits) and others….] which are so widely accepted today, they can expect to be invaded by these spirits. They have opened up the door.

    As our defenses are dropped by our meddling curiosity, occult spirits can and will enter in and establish themselves. These are the spirits which travel to the third and fourth generations through the parents (inheritance) because consorting with them breaks the first commandment by contacting another god. A curse from God results. (Deuteronomy 18:9-12) and (Exodus 20:3-5)

    In the beginning, the experimenter with psychic phenomena can control when and to what degree they can become involved with the occult spirits. However, as they continue on, lured deeper into the mysteries of the spirit world by clever adversaries, their God-given defenses are forced down again and again. Increasingly, the demons have free access and control. Before long they will exercise their capricious whims upon the unwitting victim and make a slave-victim, driving their victim ever deeper into the mire of sin and slavery. They will force their victim down every path which will open up ever increasing spiritual depravity.

    They may be able systemically to destroy self-respect, family life, and afflict with many hurtful and destructive desires and hungers. In time, spirits of infirmity and sickness will also be brought under attack to further weaken the victim. Demons are not satisfied with mere compliance to their wishes, they work to reduce their victim to a helpless state, filled with mental and physical anguish almost beyond a person’s ability to endure.”

    Any man, woman, family or civilization, be it ancient or modern, that resort to this CRASS IDOLATRY, one way or the other, will feel Almighty God’s JUDGMENT, for this ABOMINATION, as witnessed by ALL, ancient civilazations who came to ultimate RUINATION for such forbidden practices!


  20. Not surprised Padre


  21. @ Nuki, et al other idolaters, be WARNED:
    “And take HEED, lest you LIFT up your EYES to heaven, and when you SEE the SUN* the MOON, and the STARS, all the host of heaven, you fell DRIVEN to WORSHIP them and serve them, which the LORD your GOD has given (Created!) to all peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage.” (Deut. 4:19 Emphasis added)

    The SUN, Moon, stars etc, are ALL Created things by Almighty God, and are NOT to be worshipped as deities, gods* as practiced by Pagan societies, all who venerate such created things will be CURSED, by the One, and ONLY God, who forbids such wanton, IDOLATRY!


  22. @Zoe et al…

    Only a a twit, based on the empirical evidence, would dare to claim that only their god could exist.


  23. de hood, CH , BAFet al.

    de hood , I don’t know who Dr Mahy is. I live in Europe. Is he someone you visit regularly to receive your medications? You speak with some familiarity about this person. You don’t know what Ph.D stands for, even that is too complicated for you to fathom.

    CH. It seems like you are barely capable of stringing together more than three incoherent sentences. You don’t seem able to get any traction while sinking backwards into the darkness. Try engaging the forward gear into enlightment see if that helps.

    I’ll follow milleran-ki’s lead and take leave of this topic.

    Stupidity , according to Einstein, ‘ Doing the same thing over and over again ( wasting time with imbiciles in this case) and expecting a different result’

    Auf wiedersehen.


  24. Lol…….

    I love how Zoe tries to call MTA a pussy in a smart way (Nnuki or nuki).;)
    Oh, the irony!
    Christian behavior….once, I could say typo but not in this case.
    Real cute Zoe…I am impressed…lmao!


  25. In ancient or biblical times the Sun , The Moon and The Stars were worshipped as they gave real meaning and direction in people’s daily lives. Our natural instinct is to responding accordingly to how we are treated and worshipped was an outward sign of showing respect to those heavenly bodies.Those planetary signs were powerful tools by nature and without them biblical man would been loss and they knew it that is why they worshipped them not because of evil in their hearts but because of what they learned and gained from them. The Sun . the Moon and The Stars were and still are the directors in mans existence if only we would apply some commonsense to our thinking

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Technician:

    For the sake of Truth sometimes a man has to go back on his word.I therefore wake up to have a cuppa tea to warm the cockles of my heart.
    I caught on early to Zoe’s sarcasm in referring to me as “Nuki”. Now if he had called me ” Nuksy, Nuksie or Nukerts” I also would not be too offended because I know (and you know too) that such referencing is a way of praising and worshiping the sweetest and deadliest cavity a man can look at or enter. Working at Mount Venus is a duty men will kill for. Toiling in this venerable mountain has seen the fall of many great men from those mentioned in the story books like Adam and Samson to modern day players like “Tiger in the Woods”, loads of political figures and even those wearing ecclesiastical robes.
    So if my Christian friend wants to label me a “nuki”, by all means go ahead. Just remember your god knows every evil that dwells in your heart and you sin by words, thoughts and deeds. You should get on your knees at the altar of the fish and ask for forgiveness.

    But just remember a “nuki” is smart and flexible enough to handle the human male but certainly not a jackass. Only a python can accommodate this burden!
    Zoe, it’s your turn to bray, the python awaits in the grass!

    That cup of tea was “purrrrrr fect” and sweet as cu**y!!!

    Fait Accompli!! Hors de Combat!!!


  27. Ph D
    “Doing the same thing over and over again ( wasting time with imbiciles in this case) and expecting a different result”

    How odd that one side could take this position, and it is the exact same sentiment that the other could have.

    Techie

    DNFTT


  28. Cataclysmic regional war is coming to the Middle East
    by Martin Gould and Kathleen Walter—

    War is on its way in the Middle East as Muslim countries are determined to force a showdown over the future of Israel, Ronald Reagan’s assistant defense secretary Frank Gaffney warned in an exclusive Newsmax.TV interview.

    “I’m afraid there’s a war coming, a very serious, perhaps cataclysmic regional war,” he said. “It will be presumably over, at least in part, the future existence of the state of Israel. It may involve all of its neighbors, as they have in the past, attacking Israel to try, as they say, to drive the Jews into the sea.

    “It may involve the use of nuclear weapons,” Gaffney predicted. “But whatever form it takes and whenever it occurs, it is unlikely to be contained to that region, and we must do everything we can to prevent freedom’s enemies from thinking they have an opportunity to engage in that kind of
    warfare.” Read on…

    Yehuda Z. Blum, former Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Israel to the United Nations, said: “A corollary of the inalienable right of the Jewish people to its land is the right to live in any part of Eretz Yisrael, including Judea and Samaria which are an integral part of Eretz Yisrael. Jews are not foreigners anywhere in the Land of Israel. Anyone who asserts that it is illegal for a Jew to live in Judea and Samaria just because he is a Jew, is in fact advocating a concept that is disturbingly reminiscent of the “Judenrein” policies of Germany banning Jews from certain spheres of life for no other reason than that they were Jews. The Jewish villages in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District are there as a right and are there to stay. The right of Jews to settle in the Land of Israel was also recognised in the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine which stressed “the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and… the grounds for reconstituting– I repeat, reconstituting –their national home in that country.…The Mandatory Power was also entrusted with the duty to encourage close settlement by Jews on the land, including state lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.”

    God says: “On that day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram and said, to your descendants I give this land from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates.”… “I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.” (Genesis 15:18; 17:7-8)

    Into the Valley!

    “For behold, in those days and at THAT time, When I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem.I WILL GATHER ALL NATIONS, And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; And I WILL ENTER JUDGMENT WITH THEM THERE, On account of My people, My heritage Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; They have also divided up My LAND.”

    “Proclaim this among the nations” ‘Prepare for war! Wake up the mighty men, Let all the men of war draw near, Let them come up, Beat your plowshares into swords; Let the weak say, ‘I am strong,” Assemble and come, all YOU NATIONS, And gather together all around. Cause your mighty ones to go down there, O LORD, ‘Let the NATIONS be weakened, and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat: For THERE I will SIT to JUDGE ALL* the surrounding NATIONS” ( I.e., Arab, et al)

    “Come, go down; For the winepress is FULL, The vats overflow- For their WICKEDNESS is GREAT.” Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is NEAR in the valley of decision. The sun and moon will grow dark, And the stars will diminish their brifgtness. The LORD also will roar from Zion, And utter His voice from JERUSALEM; The heavens and earth will shake; But the LORD will be a shelter to His people, And the strength of the children of Israel.” (Joel 3: 1-2, 9-16 Emphasis added)

    Stop MESSING with Israel!


  29. millertheanunnaki | October 28, 2011 at 8:36 PM | I am a python!

    “I swallowed a whole jackass so I will hibernate on this topic for1 year.”

    Nnaki-nuks, Cud dear man, how could you be so insulting to your Pantheon of gods* by calling them a ‘Jackass’ which “I swallowed…so I will hibernate on this topic for 1 year”

    You are so FILLED UP, with the Demon god* Ra, remember he passes through Duat ( the underworld) every night, as Apep has to be defeated in the darkness hours of Ra, and his solar barge to emerge in the east each morning! (Lol!) Or, Nnuki, maybe, its the warrior goddess Sekhmet, plus the COBRA god* ( of Pharaoh son of Ra) or, the lioness (daughter of Ra) that’s wrapped AROUND your head, as she carrries their relationship to the sun ATOP their heads, or the later SUN god (Aten) that has you so FULL, like a Python, who CANNOT awaken!

    Nuks, man you in real trouble, not even a good laxative can help you now! Wa law!!!


  30. BTW, As God alone is the Judge of my heart et al, when I abbreviated, MTA, as ‘Nuki’ I had NO idea it carried the connotation thus explained, it was simply done in innocence, and not meant to imply what men associate this word with, and that is the honest truth from my heart!

  31. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe:
    Apology accepted! Lighten up and the Sun will smile with you!

    @ Technician: You need to attend Rev (the Minister) Jones’ church to have those demons removed from your mind and body.
    Zoe will pray for your deliverance! I now see how Eve was tricked by a serpent named Techie into the art of eating and later showed Adam the entrance to the “nuki”. (LOL!!)

    It’s good to lighten up the threads sometimes,because, according to Zoe et al, we seem to be living in the end times which I agree with but from a different perspective.


  32. @David | October 29, 2011 at 9:45 AM

    Great video post David. The name Barack Obama was chosen so these assets could be seized with relative ease. If a white man had done what Obama has done persons would have cried foul.


  33. @ BU,
    Bu You got the smartest Bajans on line…wach-out yeah cause doze Western (non)Intelligence Agencies bung to get worried with all these smart-ass ‘niggas’ a-present

    PS: I mean the smartest persons anywhere in the world (Most Seriously)


  34. @ Zoe | October 29, 2011 at 10:23 AM |

    BTW, As God alone is the Judge of my heart et al, when I abbreviated, MTA, as ‘Nuki’ I had NO idea it carried the connotation thus explained, it was simply done in innocence, and not meant to imply what men associate this word with, and that is the honest truth from my heart!
    *******************************************************************
    Good one “Preacher”! Are you bajan? And you expect us to believe you ain’t know the local connotation of that good ol bajan term nook nook, nookie, nuki etc, etc. Yeah, and I was born yesterday!


  35. any body who can agree with the card carrying communist BAF needs a reality check. al CH and miller. trying a misguided attempt by using the Good name of Hon. Errol Barrow!

  36. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    ac:
    “with the card carrying communist”.
    Aren’t Chinese communists?
    Yet you and many more Bajans buy their goods, use their labour, borrow their money and take their handouts!
    Think on these things!


  37. @ miller

    Really! i don’t buy their products . neva hire none of them and as fuh handouts not necessary i am economically self sustained and needs nothing from that communist evil empire that soon will collapse under its weight from producing the garbage they put on the world market which the consumer would continue to reject as they are doing now.


  38. @ ac

    “… i am economically self sustained and needs nothing from that communist evil empire that soon will collapse under its weight from producing the garbage they put on the world market which the consumer would continue to reject as they are doing now.”

    Perhaps China will collapse under the ‘weight’ the Capitalist countries will burdened it with…all the to-and-fro-to-and-fro bogus European Union Economic meetings that being going on for the past months resulted in an EU begging-bowl to China. I hazard that guess long time ago. I will hazard another: The one from whence you get your economic ‘self sustenance’ will collapse before China does


  39. And the saga continues, from the Yahoo news… quote

    ”Netanyahu and Barak “are trying to muster a majority in the cabinet in favor of military action against Iran, a senior Israeli official has said,” Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported Wednesday in a piece co-bylined by four reporters. The two officials “recently persuaded Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who previously objected to attacking Iran, to support such a move,” according to the Ha’aretz acount, which has garnered an unusual degree of attention from western policymakers.

    The Ha’aretz report followed a piece late last week by Israel’s leading columnist, Nahum Barnea, on the front page of Israel’s largest circulation daily Yediot Ahronoth, titled “Atomic Pressure.” It begins: “Have the prime minister and defense minister settled on a decision, just between the two of them, to launch a military attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran?” The piece then continues….”


  40. With Gadaffi gone the fun will now begin to keep the rebel factions singing from the hymn sheet.

  41. http://larouchepub.com/other/2011/3843-obama_trigger_war.html Avatar
    http://larouchepub.com/other/2011/3843-obama_trigger_war.html

  42. The Pakistan ‘system’ has today sentenced the doctor who helped the US get Bin Laden on Pakistan soil, to 30 years in prison. Note that no one who actually helped Bin Laden hide in Pakistan has been charged.

    This from a ‘US Ally’. So, were the accusations aimed at Gaddafi of being a demon, fair and balanced?

    Or did they merely suit the players, while the real culprits waltzed around the world stage professing innocence?

    Know thine enemy, but know thine friend better!

    And what has become of the ‘ex’ Al Quaida soldier who was reportedly heading the Libyan military action against Gaddafi?

    Games and players, for sure!

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