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hinduToday’s Nation newspaper in what history may record as a tipping point in the national conversation on race  relations in Barbados published a story titled,  Hindus want to spread the word. The opening paragraph of the article summarized the gist of the message;  HINDUS IN BARBADOS want to spread their religion and customs throughout the country to the point of convincing Government to grant national holidays for the observance of Hindu festivals. BU would have warned Barbadians for the past three years that this day would come.  To quote BU family member Jay, I want to say emphatically that this “Guyana society” must be absolutely nuts to try something like this.If you want your “observance” why not go where it is already recognized……in Guyana.It makes me wonder if this is being done on purpose to hurt the image of Barbados & to have a more conciliatory Government.Just like what has happen currently in Australia.They can already observe the day,why is a “national holiday required” ?

In recent days we have seen an escalation in the immigration rhetoric from David Commisiong and Norman Faria. Now we have this article published by the Nation which touches the prevailing sensitivity linked to the immigration Indo Guyanese issue. It is no secret that there is a group who has tag teamed to lobby the interest of others at the expense of what  the majority of Barbadians want. Does it matter that Barbados has a Black host population of over 80% which has been exemplary in charting the course of this country in our post independence period? We survey other countries blessed with more resources than us but who continue to be mired in economic, political and religious strife.

It is eerie the path which Barbados is beginning to embark. It seems like only yesterday when a similar conversation started in Trinidad. If we were to scan Trinidad’s Public Holidays for 2010 we note there is a Spiritual Baptist Liberation Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday, Indian Arrival Day, Corpus Christi, Id al Fitr (End of Ramadan), Divali (Hindu Festival of Light), Christmas Day and Christmas Day. The Trinidad and Tobago population mix is weighted more towards 50:50 Blacks and others. To this day T&T continues to be challenged by the multi-racial composition of its population. Barbados has the opportunity to define the type of society it wants based on the experience of others. Why should we rush knowingly into a situation when the evidence is available to provide a heads-up?

Hindus make up an infinitesimal percentage of the Barbados population. Yes the constitution of Barbados allows all religions to practice their faith secure in recourse to the law courts. However, let there be no doubt that Barbados has built its success on a traditional value set which has worked well for us. We are yet to know of other similar societies which can boast of the economic and political  stability that Barbados has enjoyed. The statement attributed to the priest of the temple of the Guyana Hindu Society in Barbados at the Hindu Temple Thakoor Prashad suggested that, In future, if Barbadians learn about this culture how it can bring about peace, unity and prosperity in this country, I would be very happy as a priest to join with all the people in Barbados to celebrate this festival with love. BU finds the statement an insensitive one for what it implies.

Tonight we learned of the appointment of former Barbados Employers Confederation head and current talk show host Harry Husbands to the Senate and as Parliamentary Secretary responsible for immigration. We all wait to see what influence Husbands will bring to the mess at the Immigration Department.

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111 responses to “Hindus In Barbados Show Insensitivity”

  1. Avatar
    Anonymous

    David

    This shit that David Thompson is perpetuating on the people of Barbados has to STOP.

    What he has promised on immigration he is now backing away from.

    These guyanese indians and all indians are getting very bold in Barbados because they realise david thompson is shitting and pissing on his voters.

    On the question of the hindus who are less than .001% of .01% of the population wanting a public holiday for their hinduism,well where are the church leaders?

    Busy getting appointment as senators,and dealing with their petty crap while rome burns.

    The bishop of Barbados is the weakest piece of sop I have ever seen so we can’t even look to him to give any strong,definitive statement on this.

    Man.this place is making me sicker and sicker by the day.

    Weak-kneed,yellow belly suckers all of them so called leaders.

  2. Fireman Avatar
    Fireman

    Hindus worship a number of gods. Next to Islam and Christianity, Hindus are yet to know God. This religion must not be nationalised. God help us if it does. Too many of our people are lost already.

  3. BGR Avatar
    BGR

    Barbados already have 11 public holidays. We don’t need anymore for a country this size. Already we have issues with high absenteeism, low productivity and anymore public holidays would only defeat the purpose of Barbados becoming a First World Island state.
    Secondly, the plan was always a foot to encourage the Indo Guyanese/Trini immigrants to come here and with the local ones mount a campaign for recognistion of their religious days. It was the afro-guyanese who were mostly deported, the indos were kinda untouchable. So no surprise there.
    You gave these Indians a national holiday and every religious group in Bim would demand the same treatment also. Muslims, jews, catholics, baha’i, wicca, tie-heads, etc etc etc. You can’t give one and not the others. Better not to start at all.

    “In future, if Barbadians learn about this culture how it can bring about peace, unity and prosperity in this country, I would be very happy as a priest to join with all the people in Barbados to celebrate this festival with love”

    Where is this peace, unity and prosperity evident in India, Guyana and Trinidad?

    I wouldn’t go any further. I will let someone else do the job.

  4. Avatar
    Anonymous

    David Thompson grandfather was a guyanese !

  5. gadfly Avatar
    gadfly

    I may be in my grave, but I am confident that this island will be taken away from the black people who built it. We are going to be re-enslaved by this manipulative race.
    We are allowing these Indo- Guyanese and Indo-Trinis to buy their way into Barbados, while the Afro-Guyanese are being deported every day. Can Hindus and Muslims teach anyone in Barbados about peace and prosperity?
    A cursory look at Guyana would give the lie to this statement. Does any Afro- Barbadian engage in honour killings if a female member of the family marries someone who does not belong to his religion or race?
    Everyone, except the greedy politicians knows that Indo-Guyanese marry for race and not love.
    Go back to Guyana if you want to enjoy your religious festivals. Barbados is a Christian society.
    Where does our senior clerics stand on this issue? At this moment former Archbishop of Canterbury, Casey is vigorously defending the Christian heritage from the onslaught of Islam, a religion which dehumanises women.

  6. michael Avatar
    michael

    how can worshiping of an elephant help to enlighten people there are no elephants living in Barbados,now or in the pass, these people can love an animal but hate an African person ,and we are busy trying to find ways to welcome then into Barbados That stupid article in the Nation speaks volumes as to how stupid the Bajans can be,I have been to a corner shop and purchase an item and the Indian woman working behind the counter made sure her hand did not touch mine when giving me my change,Indians have a cast system where one group is called the untouchables and they are Indians what do you all think they would do to Afro-Bajans? we according to their customs would not even be allowed to touch what passes out their body as wast

  7. David Avatar
    David

    Is Lindsay Holder sick?

  8. The People's Democratic Congress Avatar
    The People’s Democratic Congress

    We in the PDC have been saying it practically every single day on here and elsewhere that these two shameless ramgoat DLP and the BLP political factions MUST BE DEMOCRATICALLY REMOVED from the political landscape of this country by the VAST MAJORITY OF people of this country, that this must be done as quickly as rationally as possible – within the next 7 or so years – and so that serious people-centered progressive nationalist parties will have enough time and experience within which to further growth and develop enough to eventually be able to take their places in really greatly truly assisting in the running of the affairs of this country.

    Having stated all of that just now – however – it seems that there are some big outlandish jokers in this country who sheepishly clownishly would like – on the whole – to still hold onto these two dithering dying intellectually bankrupt politically feckless factions in the wider political scheme of things – and this issue here is NOT ABOUT anyone’s exercise of particular constitutional rights – might be more important than such, say, the state of the black nation in Barbados – but who would like still to continue rightly criticising these same failing jackass factions – on particular grounds – say, in regard of particular socio-religious racial matters – yet who will STARKLY FAIL to comprehend or even conjure up that the state of affairs as so described in the main thread of this blog – AND WHICH SOME OF THEM WILL CRITICISE ON HERE OR ELSEWHERE – and that so many other damning disgraceful local states of affairs as well – which they may well criticise too, would have been possible only with these two flipping dark aged factions having been for too long dangerously at the helm of government of this country, with many essentially corrupt colonial and servile mindsets, utterances and behaviours defining many of their so-called stewardships.

    Thus, these persons fail to demonstrate duty of commitment to preserve, and better, the spirit and ethos of the nation/state over and above the exercise of mere personal political choices, and fail also to properly understand that there is a clear nexus between existing and future qualities ( or lack thereof) of the nation/state and the level of intellectual political leadership ( high or low) in the country.

    Then, too, they are some bigger outrageous jokers in this country who all the while these two essentially self-serving selfish political groups ( DLP/BLP) are doing their best at tearing many thousands of our people more apart politically partisanly – thank the Almighty that this is NOT the situation with the vast majority of people of this country – to a point wherefore for them it is political gamesmanship – who will nevertheless continue to fail at even showing up or figuring in anything seriously publically political, or seriously politically public – while these jack a lantern factions do any thing almost to make sure that this country – on the present trend – becomes a banana republic in the next couple of generations.

    We hate to say it but among this group is a set of professed Christians – who are sitting and standing idly by as Rome burns, GADFLY!!! – and who have followed the path of many other Christians, GADFLY!!, in wrenchingly going into some form of spirited political retreat from previous involvement in the highest or widest levels of public affairs in the country.

    But, it is amazing that when some of us – commenters on here now – happen to read many of these blogs, esp. ones that are very/religious in nature, there are some other commenters who seem exceedingly passionate and articulate in proffering their own religious biblical, to wit Christian or Christian based views in these blog spaces – which is admirable and indeed welcome, but yet we see these same commenters miserably failing to bring similiar kinds of passion and articulation to many crucial matters of state affecting the country in which they live.

    Imagine that at such a critical time in the historical development of this country – say, where these two old bilgy DLP/BLP factions would like to foist multiculturalism founded on religious pluralism on this a predominantly black English speaking ( bajan dialectic ) country, notwithstanding the political and other unwholesomeness and perversities of doing such; say, where more and more businesses – on the whole – in this country are being wretchedly more and more owned by Arabs, Indians, Chinese, etc, and more and more blacks of the marginalised masses are unfortunately more and more working for and being exploited by these people – most of whom are intent on disfiguring destroying the Barbados that we have come to know – (well under some politically conscious people in Barbados’ dead bodies); and, say, where more and more this once fair land is becoming under the weight of decadent destructive dreaded ungodly Eurocentric homosexual influences – that Pastor Peter Millington took it upon himself last year to retreat into some kind of strange submission – NOT criticising him for resigning from the Senate and the DLP – which howver might have been the best thing for him to do at the time, but criticising him – being as a very erudite religious leader like himself – for so suddenly removing himself from greater public light, from wider public service where he could have been or remained a source of great inspiration and leadership to many a people in Barbados – Christian and non-Christian, and which was – to say the least – behaviour that has been very disappointing to our party. Huh? Huh?

    These types of persons described above – and who include Pastor Millington – have clearly failed to demonstrate duty of commitment to helping preserve the historic sanctity of the nation/state in which they live, over and above the exercise of mere personal religious choices in pursuance of whatever personal professional goals , and have clearly failed to properly understand that there is a clear relationship between present and future qualities ( or lack thereof ) of the nation state and the levels of moral or religious or spiritual leadership ( high or low) of the country in which the nation/state is so founded.

    To show that there is some kind of ignorant sinister plot – which must however be destroyed before it gets any bigger – on the part of some Barbadians, even some black skinned wolly haired broad nosed ones, in collusion with evil foreign forces to disfigure or destroy many of those same Barbadian traditions and values that have been so wonderfully formulated through time and that many Barbadians have come to know and to accept as their own. One only has to remember Historian Trevor Marshall’s recent injudicious stupid call for the inclusion of presumably persons representing these people, as part of our Crop Over Festival, on some senseless unverified assumption that these people are part of the nation of Barbados – Also at a recent panel discussion on the psychology of change the black experience, at the Bridgetown public library, he glibly remarked that Indians and their presence in this part of the world must be factored into our Black history in the Caribbean – on the basis that they are some form of black people. What revisionist poppycock bidding to assimilate and pander perfunctorily!!

    One has to remember also another political misfit – former Senator John Williams – who when he was Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office asininely called for the removal of sugar ( metaphor ) from out of our CROP OVER FESTIVAL, on some false specious basis that the festival had to be rebranded to get greater involvement in it from a greater number of corpoate and other segments in Barbados. What idiotic trash!!!

    And one also has to remember Mr. David Commissiong’s joke call for a more so-called humane policy towards immigrants from Guyana on some ill-founded premiss that the former BLP Government had managed to come up with, that once these immigrants were here for a certain time ( five or so years ) that they would have been eligible for immigrant and other statuses from the government What non-sense!!. So, all such things and more to undertand the types and degrees of infernal dymanics that are being played out in this wicked bid to dilute and degradate things Barbadian!!

    Well, as we in the PDC have made clear before on here and elsewhere, it will certainly be against the national strategic developmental interests of Barbados for many Barbadian leaders and principals – party, community, secular, religious, etc. to seek to encourage too many Indians, Arabs, Chinese and such like and their cultural norms and practices into our country; too for them to stay beyond the times given to them by the powers that be and for them to later settle here thus helping to grow more and more (pre-) existing cultural religious enclaves most of whose values and principles are incompatible with and more so conflicting with certain national objectives – say, a greater distribution of wealth and income among the social categories in the country .

    For, such circumstances – as if they were to end up settling here in greater numbers than desired – which the PDC will do what little it can to make sure this never happens – would therefore have far-reaching terrible repercussions for the greater material and spiritual growth, stability, harmony and peace of our country – such as would help quicken the slide – on this present trajactory – of Barbados moving steadfastly towards becoming a banana republic – which is something that many of us – born and bred Barbadians – must do as much as possible as is necessary – certainly the PDC again – to prevent in the great names of our great foreparents.

    Finally, our nationhood and our most important symbols must NEVER be seen to be or must NEVER be taken away from through the clamours for national recognition of some johnny come latelies – acting in collusion with some black skinned wolly haired broad nosed local Barbadian leaders, and who altogether ( the former and the latter ) by their whims and fancies and moreso by ominous design would wish to see the logical upward progression of our country’s most hardworking people – the broad masses and middle classes – thwarted and death of Barbados as many of us have come to know it as assured, on some false pretences that their religions – in this case Hindu and its festivals – must be come known more to the average Barbadian.

    So, What a very farcical and foolish attempt by these people to further subjugate many esp black Barbadians to another foreign culture!! Sure is it?? Why dont many of us observe, if we have not done it before, and still if we have, do it some more, on the writings and speeches of late Dr. John Henrick Clarke?? Huh??

    So, there you have it, Down with the Damned DLP and the Blasted BLP!!!

    PDC

  9. Avatar
    Anonymous

    @ michael // March 10, 2010 at 7:33 AM

    what you doing in a indian shop??? keep out.

    No indian holiday will ever come to this sweet country, tell me, IF it were to pass, what would the other 98% of the country do, sit around all day, light candles and worship trees?

    Buy then again knowing how stupid some black people are i can see some doing it if not doing it already.

  10. The Scout Avatar
    The Scout

    I saw this coming and spoke about it already, what will happen next is a change to our national anthem,especially the 2nd verse which says” the Lord has been the people’s guide.” I also believe that other religious doctrines will be dominante over christianity. It used to bother me a few years ago, when celebrating our Independence Service to hear a lot of foolish foreign prayers by individuals and our leaders themselves don’t even know what they are saying. Barbados is fast becoming a lost nation. The chinese who are flooding this country are bitterly oppose to christianity, yet our christian leaders are sitting will their tails between their legs and some of them are just prepared to draw fat salaries every month and exploit the ignorant congregation. The fast growing business in Barbados today is “church”yet every day bajans are moving further and further away from Christ. We are due for a rude awakening.

  11. Myles Davis Avatar
    Myles Davis

    I was waiting for this to happen. We let these aliens into our country and they want to dictate the way they want to live. I am amazed by the arrogance of these people who leave their own country and come to Barbados which have a completely different culture to theirs – and expect to have their local norms and customs respected by the host country. Barbados is a christian country if want to practice your norms and customs go back to wherever you come and do it here. We do not want you here.

  12. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Oh please, here is the Guyana bashing this time in the form of the Hindu religion, yes they worship an elephant, at least an elephant would never enslave or give rudeness. I rather be a Guyanese Hindu than a Barbadian Anglican, and that is the truth. And so what if the Indian lady acted like if she didn’t want her hand to touch you, so what, but you know it is a two way street, you probably acted unfriendly in she shop, and this thing about Indians marry for race and not love, where you getting these old time ideas from, must be from your grandmother. I am not an East Indian and I have a child with an East Indian man, so there

  13. David Avatar
    David

    Led by our forefathers Barbados has performed an enviable job at building a successful nation, and this is against the odds. BU have no issue with alternate views but they must be forged by the Barbadian experience. It seems nowadays any Dick, Harry or Jane can come into Barbados and acquire instant celebrity status compliments of the talk shows and other media outlets.

    The push is on and it is up to Barbadians to decide what kind of Barbados we want to build. The multicultural experience has failed in the UK which is several times bigger, in Barbados we want to create this situation where we continue to pull at the lion’s tail.

    What is the Bajan Brand we want to promulgate?

    The PDC comment although long is revealing and should be mandatory reading especially for the Christians on the blog. What is the role of the Church? We have responded to Chris on another blog that religion guides everything we do, whether we believe or not. Here is another example of it.

     

    For those who missed Prime Minister Thompson’s speech outlining the reshuffle which hinted at more to come please follow the link (Updated to BU Library).

  14. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    Well, there should be no nationalising of any religion; even the Christian one. It is dangerous. First it sends the wrong message about the correctness and incorrectness of a religion. They are all beliefs and if we are to follow the constitutional provision for freedom of religion, then all religions should be recognised from the point of view that they are respected.

    None, bar none should be a national religion. Giving a holiday for religious purposes does not make everybody of the same belief. I know many who do not celebrate Xmas and claim to be Christian. So even the Christians are divided on this and many more.

    These holidays have become a day to look forward to away from work. There is very little that has remained religious about these holidays. Instead of adding any more holidays to the calendar, and as this is more about industrial relations, businesses should be charged with the responsibility of giving employees time to conduct their religious rites. Those of that faith who own businesses should close them in recognition of their religious practices.

    If we are striving towards religious freedom, then at some point national recognition of one over the other must be gradually phased out; even though we remain a predominantly Christian society.

  15. Sid Avatar
    Sid

    Barbados should have a good look at Great Britain and learn the lessons. People from countries with poor living conditions and lack of opportunity are not in the habit of saying thank you. Really they reckon the indigenous population is stupid and decadent and that their values brought in from the old countries are the only ones worthy of adoption. Pity they couldn’t make home a green and pleasant land and they seek to establish a part of a foreign land that is forever back home.

  16. Christopher Halsall Avatar
    Christopher Halsall

    @BU.David: “We have responded to Chris on another blog that religion guides everything we do, whether we believe or not. Here is another example of it.

    I had decided to not comment on this particular Blog. But since you named me specifically, I’ve changed my mind.

    For the record, I find this article quite possibly the most disgusting thing you have ever published.

    It is one thing for a commenter to speak in such biased terms (no matter how much facilitated), it quite another thing for the Blog owner to do so.

    IMHO, tolerance and acceptance are key to the ***Human*** race’s continuation.

    What you, David, have communicated loud and clear is that you have no intention nor desire of either.

  17. David Avatar
    David

    @CH

    Your answer highlights the problem Barbados faces as we sit and watch the weeds take root in our lawn, or as we would have learned from the Romans, while Nero fiddled Rome kept burning.

    In other other words, while the pacifist like yourself defend your agenda the pragmatist among us must find solutions to ensure survival. We don’t live in a perfect world, what is sure is that survival is key to our existence given the marauding nature of human existence. History is replete with examples.

  18. Christopher Halsall Avatar
    Christopher Halsall

    @David…

    You are still talking (and, by inference, thinking) in “us vs them” terms.

    What are you (and us Bajans) going to do when China becomes the dominant economic power in the world?

    I predict ten years — twenty at the most.

    In reality, they already really are.

    But they’re patient, and really, *really* smart….

  19. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    The present state/condition that B’dos finds itself in, that is, socially, culturally, politically, economically,etc., all spring forth, from the fact, that we, as a so-called Christian nation, which we are not, as many just give and pay lip-service to Almighty God and Jesus Christ, a form of Godliness, BUT, denying the power thereof!

    The serious, perternent, and most important point in all of these matters, being discussed by the PDC, and I respect the writer’s ability to so well articulate the philosophy of the PDC, and their utmost zeal and intent for change, politically, and the fact that they have seriously included the historic base of our Judeo/Christian tradition, as a necessary aspect of our past experience, which cannot be denied, as some relativists are attempting to do, but the point I want to stress, and it is this, and I have already made this point on other threads, fearlessly.

    Unless, and until, as a nation of mostly Christian oriented people, that is, were brought up with our grounding, socially, religiously, in the God of historic divine revelation, who has spoken to us through His Word, the Bible, and who is beginning to rock the nations of the world, one way or another, to get our attention, that He is Holy, Just, and Righteous, AND, that:

    “Unless the Lord build the house (Nation!) They labour in vain who (seek) to build it. Unless the Lord guards the city, The watchman stays awake in vain.” (Psa. 127:1) emphasis added.

    Regardless of who is in power, the BLP, DLP, PDC, or whoever, IF, we as a people, do not *REPENT* of our vile, abased, secular, materialistric, wuk-up, culture, we are going to feel the wrath of Almighty God, one way or the other, it is coming, it IS on its way, and it is not going to be pleasant!

    And Yes, there is much repenting to be done in the True Church of the Lord, many are in a stupor of dulness, indifference, caught up in the things of this godless culture of ours.

    “For the time has come for judgment to BEGIN at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who DO NOT obey the Gospel of God?’

    “Now ‘If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and sinner appear?” (1 Peter4: 17,18) emphasis added.

  20. michael Avatar
    michael

    Anonymous
    when i go into a shop to purchase a product i don’t have to be friendly or unfriendly the proprietor should be thankful that some person has come into their establishment to purchase a product and should accord them the respect to which every one is entitled. your quote
    “you probably acted unfriendly in she shop” this is so typical of Afro-bajan always have to come to the rescue of another race yet it is the other races who start the vilifying of the black man

    ” I am not an East Indian and I have a child with an East Indian man, so there”
    you can lay down with whom you please all that tell me is that you prefer getting your pleasure from the worm
    ps my Grand, Grand mother was a beautiful black woman i can still recall how she looked in her straw hat and her cornrow plats, full Bajan

  21. Technician Avatar
    Technician

    @ Anonymous above…

    ROFLMAO!!!!

    True.

  22. Neptune Avatar
    Neptune

    The late Rt Hon Dipper Barrow once said that we will wake up one morning and find we no longer own Barbados.
    The time is now 2.30 am on that said morning.

  23. CHURCH MOUSE Avatar
    CHURCH MOUSE

    The world could do without the kind of zenophobic, divisive diatribe being touted by people like Gadfly, Fireman and Myles Davis. We should be looking to embrace other elements of humanity, as the good saviour taught us when he was on earth. He didn’t withdraw from the Samarian woman because he was a Jew. He built a bridge with her as he did with sinners and leppers. There are too much artificial divisions between peoples.
    Our own people suffered in England and elsewhere because people like Hadfly and Fireman thought they were undesirables because of how they looked.
    The holiday point is merely a red herring.

  24. David Avatar
    David

    @CH

    Is that your interpretation? Well let BU break it down for you.

    The gist of this blog which you have labelled “the most disgusting thing you have ever published” is to remind Barbadians WE have to determine the type of society WE want to build.

    Some of us maybe satisfied with marching to the beat of a global agenda but Barbados has always separated itself itself from the pack because of our courage to create a home-grown agenda. It is a quality which our late hero Errol Barrow would have sowed and nurtured. It seems we have a group of people at the helm who are prepared to go with the flow. Let us restate, if we analyze what is happening in the UK concerning the building of their multicultural society, WE (Barbadians) better start planning how we want to learn from them to avoid the pitfalls in the same way we always reference their EU model.

  25. Christopher Halsall Avatar
    Christopher Halsall

    @BU.David…

    Let me please speak clearly…

    Barbados has approximately 0.3 million inhabitants.

    According to the World Bank, there are approximately 6.7 billion people here on Earth.

    Doing the maths, Barbados represents approximately 0.0045% of the world’s population.

    We are less than a rounding error.

    Harsh, but true.

  26. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    David

    I believe you realise that there are some persons who want to fit persons,in particular black persons into a mode of thinking,which says:don’t call a racist white,indian chineese etc – a racist – don’t speak out against the hardship persons of african descent experience because they are black etc,just try to get along and ignore all that.

    While we are busy opening our borders others are busy strengthening and guarding theirs.

    I may not always agree with BU’s take on some issues but I will blodly say BU is the best thing that happened to Barbados.

  27. David Avatar
    David

    Got you Chris!

    That makes us (Barbadians) insignificant in the scheme of things.

  28. Christopher Halsall Avatar
    Christopher Halsall

    @David: “That makes us (Barbadians) insignificant in the scheme of things.

    Only if we accept to be.

    To choose to not be will involve some work and to accept responsibility.

  29. johnny Avatar
    johnny

    When one looks at the Muslim and Hindu situation vis immigration to new lands we always see a pig ignorant attempt to remake the host country into the hell-hole they just left. It is remarkable that one would pick up and leave one place for obvious reasons and then want to recreate it in their new country and at the expense of the people who gave them assistance through tax dollars. Although this dynamic is most evident in some countries (Europe) by Muslims, it cannot be said without them taking to the streets or attempt killing cartoonists/authors/ anyone they don’t like. That is to say that it is regarded in many countries as politically incorrect to tell the truth. We all must stand as good Christians against the bigotry and utter stupidity of a guest telling his/her host that they are unworthy or unclean or otherwise inferior. A swift kick in the ass is what is needed – back to their own septic societies. God help us all. Keep at it BU!

  30. kiki Avatar
    kiki

    David.
    Multiculturalism has not failed in the UK although any melting pot will have some issues and problems etc. Unfortunately you are advocating the same position as right wing racism extremism and nationalism. (As CH states) it is not even feasible to compare GBR and BRB

    Barbados V United Kingdom

  31. David Avatar
    David

    @Kiki et al

     

    Have a read of the following articles which were posted by BU family member X-man sometime ago:

     How Labour threw open doors to mass migration in secret plot to make a multicultural   UK

    Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali: immigrants should accept Britain’s Christian values 

  32. kiki Avatar
    kiki

    This Video shows Film clips of West Indian Immigrants arriving in Britain from 1948 to 1962

  33. Christopher Halsall Avatar
    Christopher Halsall

    @Kiki…

    Thank you for your immediate above.

    History does indeed repeat itself.

    But then the question becomes: do we learn?

  34. michael Avatar
    michael

    KIKI
    the majority population of the uk is white there is no history of them being classed as inferior beings they can take a chance with multiculturalism because at the end of the day the white man still have a grasp on the handle of the wealth of England and on most of the economic wealth producing institutions of the world and this is some thing that we, Afro- black of bim forget,Barbados can not afford to allow every ethnic group to set up their own enclave in bim we are a embryonic nation

  35. BGR Avatar
    BGR

    ROK said
    “Those of that faith who own businesses should close them in recognition of their religious practices.”

    They do close their businesses in respect of their religious days. What more is needeed? The economy is limping along as it is. We need revenue not anymore ‘off’ days!

    A couple of days ago, it dawn on me that our mass open door immmigration policy mirrors that of Britain, US, Australia and a few others. Seems like the same ‘advice’ was spread around under the banner of muticulturism, (althought not use here).
    Now these countries are experiencing racial tensions, strain on social services, locals forbidden to walk in immigrant’s neighbourhoods, harassment, call for national holidays and everything else to accomodate them but refuse to integrate themselves in guest’s country.
    Yikes, as i write this, is this where Barbados was heading?

  36. JC Avatar
    JC

    STUPSE and more stupse!

    I will continue backing BU on this IMPORTANT issue!

  37. Negroman Avatar
    Negroman

    The bold initiative of the Indians to take over Barbados has finally been revealed by the revelations by not only that Indian at their Phagwah celebrations but also by the Guyanese representative at the big Guyanese bash that was held over the last weekend at the Boardwalk Bar in Hastings,where a Guyanese representative stated that Masharami celebrations will be observed in Barbados next year.

    The waters were tested previously by Mrs Ram of Furniture Limited fame last year or year before when the local Indian community had their activities at Mrs Ram Hotel in St Philip.If my memory is correct that activity was attended by Esther Byer Suckoo and Richard Sealy.I can remembered quite clearly Mrs Ram stated that Barbados is becoming a more tolerant society and that the local Indian community must reached out more to the community.I also remembers Dr.Haresh Harris the mother of Peter Harris of CGI Insurance fame & Thomas Harris of Josef Restaurant echoing similar remarks recently.

    I am not surprise though because the local Indian community over the last forty or fifty years has built themselves into a very powerful & influential community in Barbados thanks to our “visionary” leaders in Errol Barrow,Tom Adams,Erskine Sandiford,Owen Arthur & now David Thompson.The local Indians know that even though they numbers are relative small in Barbados, the financial & economic power they have in Barbados is phenomenal & influential.

    The local Indians know that any request they make to any government of Barbados will be favourably look upon because of the might of their community

    The day that many of us on BU including my friend Scout,JC,Mash Up & Buy Back,David & others hope would have never come to Barbados has finally arrive.The devil has awaken and I believe it is at the stage of no return.

    The Indian revolution & the overthrow of the sovereign Black Barbados government has started.Black Barbadians we are doomed.

  38. Visus Avatar
    Visus

    The next things they will ask for are radio and television licences, and Hindu schools which government must subsidize.

    When they numbers grow enough then they will start to form their own political party. This is when the racism will start to flourish, and we will then join our two neighbouring territories Guyana, and Trinidad.

  39. The Scout Avatar
    The Scout

    Negroman
    Like in the Old Testament where Noah was building the ark and warning the people about a flood, they were all unconcerned, until the flood came and caught them still going their merry ways. I have been forecasting this for sometime now, I told the BU family that when these indo-guyanese are here in enough numbers, they will start making demands for what they MUST get. I’m not at all surprised but more disappointed that ALL the hard work my ancestors have put into this country to make it want it is, will now be taken over by these parasites. What will this generation leave for their offspring? We have an obligation to our children to protect OUR lands or we will go down in history as the generation of bajans that had no backbone and allow these poarasites to ROB us of our heritage, a heritage that was left for us by our foreparent and we will be failing our offspring. We adult bajans still asking why our offspring behaving so badly? The answer is because we the adults are failing them.

  40. Visus Avatar
    Visus

    I want to agree with *mash up & buy back* above. “BU is the best thing that happened to Barbados”.

    In a society where the mainstream media is muzzled because they depend on advertising dollars, and therefore can’t bite the hand that feeds them. It is refreshing that persons can speak some of their thoughts on this blog.

  41. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    David/BU

    You notice Kiki and chris halsall don’t have a word to say to you on the articles you referred above.

    I believe but may be wrong that both Kiki and chris are caucascian and although they I am sure, are lovely individuals,the truth is they have not walked in the shoes of a black man so they will never feel the pinch.

    Social and economic justice can only be concepts that they grasped at intellectual level,but never deep in the gut because they first have to be black skinned to FULLY understand the injustices experienced by the black man that he so painfully speak of.

    Go back and read Kiki postings where to every serious local topic on race,economics etc she tries to encapsulate it in a song.

    For chris it is about feeling good that he is doing his bit on some social issues.

    While that may be laudable,it can never,ever be the real deal.

    People,we must not look for approval of what we speak or do by others who cannot or will not see our pain or our point of view.

  42. kiki Avatar
    kiki

    mash up & buy back
    ( true confessions )
    I’m a Sri Lankan (paki / asian)
    living in London

  43. Empress Avatar
    Empress

    @Negroman
    I feel you Bro… for too long you have spoken to bajans.
    Ones can’t imagine what it is to watch your ancesters labour taken over by critters. When they show up you see few then they go underground…multiply and next thing you know you have the INVASION OF THE CRITTERS.

  44. Anon(2) Avatar
    Anon(2)

    The all knowing, all seeing, Mash up & buy back really should get that crystal ball seen to. Kiki, you in deep now, admitting that you are of East Indian blood. The racist sharks will be circling and sniffing for blood. CH, when are you finally going to realize that your opinions are not respected, you are not wanted, you are not religiously brainwashed enough based simply on your skin colour? It pains me to agree with you but this is a truly disgusting item sanctioned by the operator of this blog. Barbados is, and will remain, a backwards backwater of a country with unenlightened insular people who live in fear of change.

  45. kiki Avatar
    kiki

    ♚ me and negroman are still brothers

  46. True Bajan Avatar
    True Bajan

    @ Visus // March 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM

    Very true, and i saw this coming also. how sad, now my children will have to stay home on their holiday “The Day Of The Elephant” to worship and light candles.

    What is REALLY SAD in all this is that we only have one popular newspaper rag that people actually take serious, BU really save us that want to speak out, now Roy Morris is trying with his internet paper, he better move it to print if its to succeed and have real influence in want Barbados really wants and not what Roxanne at the rag Nation paper can influence the population into to thinking.

    I am sick of that damn newspaper TRYING to set the F&*#$ agenda and selling papers doing it, WE NEED ANOTHER PAPER PLEASEEEEE.

    The other clown next door is only interested in giving his female staff cars and trips overseas, will someone a real BARBADIAN START A REAL NEWSPAPER.

    please please please.

    A lady on this blog said she had a baby with a east indian man, good for you sister, im sure your family like him and accepted him, at least in front your face, now try going into a indian community in Guyana or Trinidad, if you make it back out alive please tell us how you did it on this blog, anyway i’m sure like the women back in the 30s you wanted a baby with straight hair.

    Chris Chris Chris, you can be a real cool fella but if can, try being a black man for day, then walk into a few stores on Broad street, you will never feel our pain Chris…NEVER…. now if the indians get their way and about 20 years from now we blacks probably won’t be able to walk on Broad Street., those indian policemen will beat us up real bad and say we only want to steal, don’t take my word for, go be a black person in Guyana.

  47. JC Avatar
    JC

    Anon (2) we never had a problem with kiki; if Kiki is pakistani rashtani or what ever we have always taken time to listen to her/his selections. However, if CH or Kiki can’t identify with what we are saying it doesn’t matter.

    We will argue until the day we die for our sovereignty …… We refuse to governed by more oppressors and would prefer to be ‘backwater people’ who have some place to call HOME!

  48. True Bajan Avatar
    True Bajan

    Anon(2) // March 10, 2010 at 7:32 PM

    You are the only one that are backward and insular, our small island with no real resources can boast about many things the others can’t, but if clowns like you get into our system we will be backwards and insular and thats what we are trying to keep out.

    Who agrees with me??

    Don’t try to bring Chris into this, he’s way smarter than you.

  49. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    The Black nationalists who demonise all other races are somehow proud to spout the tenets of Christianity–a WHITE religion.

  50. zion1971 Avatar
    zion1971

    Last year Barbados Gdp was 3.4 billionUS dollar.That is equivalent to a PPP of $18000/year.However, the truth of the matter is that all this wealth is generated and owned by a certain minority of the population who donot look like us. In exchange for the little “trickle down” our leders have in return surrender the commanding heights of our economy to these privileged few and we in essence quietly acquiesce.Now, having reduce to mere suppliers of grunt labour ( which is the norman trend for Afro-dominanated caribbean societies) the only thing left that binds us( the mjority) is our shared common history and identity.Devoid of this we then soon become a balkanized society.History is replete with examples of this scenario. The surest way to change the cultural make-up of any society over time is an uncontrolled immigration policy. In some countries politicians have used this as a political tool to gain advantage.Small countries like Barbados is precariously vulnerable in situation like this.It is one thing to loose your economic power to strangers but loosing your cultural identity for the sake of multiculturalism is asking for too much. Revoltion in the past occur on lesser issues than this.The shortage of bread was the initial fuel that start the French Revolution. However, having said all of this I still beleive that if BIM should be overtaken by strangers in all our space of influence I am not convince we have the gumption and tenacity to take to the street. We are too “English” and docile and thats the problem.Bring back the Busa in us.

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