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Peter Wickham
Peter Wickham
I can’t speak for Norman Faria, but I am inclined to believe that there is evidence of racial discrimination against Afros there [Guyana] at present, in the same way there was evidence of racial discrimination against Indos there during the Burnham – PNC era – Peter W Wickham April 12, 2009 at 6.25pm

The BU family can succinctly address your core argument.  You agree that there is evidence of discrimination “now” in Guyana against Afro Guyanese, which is exactly what Dr. Kean Gibson said, that there might have been discrimination against Indos during the Burnham-PNC era does not negate this “present truth”.

Permit me to quote you again: My thesis is not that there is no discrimination, but that discrimination is not caused by the mere presence of large numbers of Indos and moreover that Indos are not genetically or culturally inclined to discriminate because of their Hindu beliefs.

There are two core elements to your thesis:

(a) Genetics (b) Culture/Hindu beliefs.

(a) Very few of the BU family will argue that this issue is about Indians being genetically inclined to discriminate against Africans.( I certainly will not)

(b) I will now address “Hindu beliefs”/Culture

If we take culture to mean:  the set of shared attitudes, values, goals and practices that characterizes an institution, organization or group (Wikipedia)

The above leads me to what “underpins” the concerns of Afro Barbadians.

The modern caste system is an extension of the ancient Vamashrama tradition.  The caste system recognizes many more social groupings not mentioned in Hindu scriptures and only theoretically accepts the necessity of following prescribed duties.  Caste has become a highly contentious issue in Indian politics and academic scholarship on the subject has often been critical of its Vamashrama origins.  Traditional Hindus however do not regard Vamashrama as merely an hereditary pass to enjoy social standing.

Rather, they consider it to be natural and integral to daily life, existing to maintaining an harmonious and functional society based on spiritual ideals. (Wikipedia)

Mr. Wickham it is because of this belief system which they – Hindus – consider “natural ” and integral to daily life which is based on a “spiritual ideal” and which Afro Barbadians can “never” be a part of which is causing legitimate concerns to Afro Barbadians.

This fundamental fact will not go away…and no amount of clever articulation will make this “truth” a lie.  We are concerned because of learned behaviour which is part of their belief system, which is also linked to their spiritual ideals, which causes them to see Afro Barbadians and other Afros in general the way they do…because caste kicks into the equation.

Limited legal numbers yes, in overwhelming numbers no, unless you are prepared to destroy social cohesion in Barbados.


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  1. @BAFBFP

    Oh Dear! Oh Dear!

    You are now shifting your argument like a little boy pleading for his marbles.

    You wrote: ” For Yardbroom to assume that all or even most Indians are Hindu is just plain asinine.”
    I made no such “assumption” I responded to a “direct quote” from Mr. Wickham about “Hindu beliefs.”
    To compound matters you now state ” this would have been the perfect opportunity to show a flaw in Peter’s reasoning. But to not have pointed this out; instead you use it as the main pillar in building a racist argument.”

    (Not to have pointed it out, if I did not, how could I have used it as the pillar of my argument?)

    I did not point it out; – other Indians -neither did I use it in my argument. I concentrated on Hindu Beliefs, because that was Peter Wickham’s focus. I was not concerned with supposed common knowledge I concentrated on “facts” to rebutt Peter Wickham’s use of Hindu beliefs in context.

    ” Prominent themes in Hindu beliefs include ( but are not restricted to ) Dharma (ethics/duties) Samsara, Karma, Moksha, Yogas.

    In these traditions, beings that live in accordance with Dharma proceed more quickly toward Dharma Yukam, Moksha or Nirvana ( personal liberation)

    Dharma can also be considered to be a lens through which humans plan and perform their interactions with the world.”

    Hindus in their interactions with the world see people through the caste system and it is where you are perceived in that caste system which determines how such interactions are conducted.

    Just facts dear fellow! just facts!

    The Rig-Veda the oldest surviving Hindu work was composed ca 1500-800bc. Little Barbados will not change its teachings or subsequent texts.

    Racist? With the utmost politeness, I will now leave the field to you.


  2. Well I thank you Mr. Broom. But the reality on the ground is that the Indians will come; and the Chinese are growing in number, masters at retail and restauranting, they will dominate in less than ten years; and the Canadians have been sneaking in for years.

    But Mr Broom do you know the one thing that they have in common?

    THEY ALL DESPISE BLACKS…! In fact each group probably views the other with some degree of contempt anyway.

    So since we are being polite, I’ll remove the word racist from the table and just replace it with “human nature”.

    Barbados does not belong to Black people. In fact it is still very much a White man’s country. If we accept that people are by nature suspicious of differences, then why play into the hands of those who would rather see us kill each other off?


  3. The U.S will never allow all of these illegals (estimated at 12 million or more)to remain in America. Get real. Pres. Obama says he will address the immigration issue; that is all. Americans are fed up and angry and the immigration is very serious and complex.


  4. Americans, ALL of them bar a few,
    ARE IMMIGRANTS.


  5. cant take on Concern , go get her JC!!!!!
    I didnt say it …..but I’ve grown up hearing the best Guyanese is a dead one !

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