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Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel
Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel

A United Nation inquiry has made the claim that Israel engaged in:

…a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorise a civilian population in Gaza.

It further asserted that some individuals should face:

individual criminal responsibility and both Hamas and the Israeli committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity

Although the inquiry subjected Hamas to censure it was not as severe as that on Israel. The conflict Dec 2008 – Jan 2009 – debated on BU ( Barbados Underground)  – was as a result of tunnels built by Hamas to circumvent the Israeli blockade being bombed by Israel.  Hamas intensified their belligerence and fired rockets into Southern Israel in retaliation, causing panic in the civilian population.  In the resultant war when the Israeli Military crossed into Gaza, in excess of 1,300 Palestinians were killed including 320 children, official figures gave the Israeli death toll as 20.

Due to the high number of Palestinians who lost their lives and the disproportionate force used by Israel with consequent civilian damage in Gaza, pressure was put on the UN to conduct an inquiry. The UN chose the  experienced and respected South African Judge Richard Goldstein, he came with a background  suited to the task.  “He was the Chief Prosecutor for the United Nations International Criminal Tribunals for the Yugoslavia and Rwanda from 15 August 1994 to September 1996. He was a member of the International Panel of the Commission of Enquiry into the Activities of Nazism in Argentina ( CEANA ) established in 1997 to identify Nazi war criminals who had emigrated to Argentina.”

The UN inquiry has called for an independent investigation, if this is not done the matter should be referred to the International Criminal Court.

Israel has been robust in their defence of the military action taken in Gaza.  Saying their accusers are against Israel, this is not surprising as the allegations against Israel are serious indeed: the inquiry noted  “Grave breaches” of the fourth Geneva Convention and of a war crime for using Palestinians as human shields.”

It is difficult to understand the reasoning behind Israel’s claim that the accusers are against Israel.  Richard Goldstein – chairman of the UN inquiry – is Jewish and a very experienced Judge, with close ties to Israel.

Mark Regev the Israeli government spokesman has said:…”the Israeli Government is conducting its own investigation into the conflict”.  However, Judge Goldstein responded that ” the Israeli investigations are being conducted behind closed doors and as such are not to an “acceptable standard”.

Israel’s Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu condemned the report as a “kangaroo court”, a charge which does not carry much credence because the Israeli Government refused to participate in the UN investigations…thus having no  input.

Judge Richard Goldstein’s daughter with less hyperbolic language is reported to have said:

“My father is a Zionist who loves Israel.”

“I know better than anyone else that he thought however hard it was to accept it, he was doing the best thing for everyone, including Israel,…”He is honest, tells things how he sees them and wants to uncover the truth.”


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530 responses to “UN Inquiry Accuses Israel Of War Crimes In Gaza”


  1. @BAFBFP

    “I have always and will continue to disagree with you both. If there is such a thing and a “Christ” and he does return, then it will be curtains for me and a whole lot of other very good people who just do not buy into what you are saying…”

    No, no, no, B. Do not dismiss Jehovah or Christ. There is a god. Just that he is not the Creator. Therefore, anytime Christ or Jehovah returns, it will rain on the christians and the non-believers alike. Mark my word. It will be hell, brimstone and fire if he is still anything like what the bible describes him to be.

    Next thing, the President of the USA was not just one man all along but whomever it is, we have referred to them as President. Similarly, once you recognise that you are dealing with a mortal, there is no guarantee that Jehovah will be the same person.

    Furthermore, he is not omniscient and have not the foggiest idea who followed the bible or not. Don’t even care about that. You need to look at the reality.

    If you had 2 goats in your yard and they breed and breed until you got more than you can handle and they shitting all over the place, would you not kill them and sell them off?

    Similarly, if you went home and found an ant or 2 running across your floor, you may leave them, but if you came home and found your house full of ants, what would you do but kill them off until the amount was manageable?

    One thing for sure, a landlord always returns to look at his property and will do everything possible to prevent its erosion and destruction.


  2. @BAFBFP

    Check this statement and pick sense from nonsense:

    “However, the Bible predicts in several places that the Lord Jesus himself will return and single handedly win the Battle of Armageddon, and destroy utterly the enemies of Israel…”

    We could only be dealing here with a technology superior to anything we have on earth. You could imagine killing all those ants by stamping them? No, you would get a few tins of spray and singlehandedly kill all of them. LOL!


  3. ROK, don’t worry. I believe Obama’s visiting soon and will pour his calming influence over the troubled waters of ‘the problem of the Middle East’. My prognostication is that, owing to his great wisdom, you may expect a resolution, soon!!


  4. @Zoe/Georgie Porgie

    So, I notice the only reference that you you use is the Bible or as you call it “God’s word”. Is this the only reference that you have? Are there no other sources of God’s word?


  5. Terrence

    Here are a few of the references you request that readily come to mind.
    Zech. 14:2-3; Zeph. 3:8; Isa. 65; Rev. 19,

    But there are scores of prophecies in both the Old and New Testaments that describe the coming conflict.

    Per haps Zoe can refer to his Strong’s concordance and quickly dig up the whole list for you.

    However, I will in the next post give you a comprehensive overview of the doctrine of the second coming…. which you can down load and play with for bed time reading (LOL)


  6. Basics of Biblical Prophecy

    The Bible is the only book known to man that has dared to prophecy of events that will occur hundreds or even thousands of years in the future.

    Bible scholars have found that one-third of the Bible is prophecy, the foretelling of events that will come to pass in a future time.

    Fulfilled prophecies are proof beyond a doubt of the Living God who knows all things from the beginning to the end.

    There are hundreds and hundreds of fulfilled prophecies in the Bible, fulfilled in accordance with God’s time table. Every prophecy of the Bible that should have been fulfilled to this date has been fulfilled.

    There are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies about people mentioned in the Bible. It is impossible to pursue this particular area of prophecy to any great degree here .

    However, let us consider the central character of the Bible, Jesus Christ.

    There are over 100 prophecies in the Old Testament relating to the birth, ministry, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. I will list just a few here, these are beautiful scriptures to share with non-believers and those of the Jewish faith who still wait for the Messiah.

    • He would be born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14
    • He would be an Israelite from the tribe of Judah Genesis 49:10 (compare with) Luke 3:33
    • He would be from the lineage of David 2 Samuel 7:12-13
    • He would be called Emmanuel, God with us Isaiah 7:14
    • He would be born in Bethlehem Micah 5:2 (compare with) Matthew 2:1 and Luke 2:4-7
    • Wise men would worship Him with gifts
    Psalm 72:10 Isaiah 60:3-9
    • He would be in Egypt for a season
    Hosea 11:1 Numbers 24:8
    • His birth would result in the massacre of infants Jeremiah 31:15
    • He would be called a Nazarene Isaiah 11:1
    • He would make the blind to see, the deaf to hear, the lame to walk Isaiah 53:4-5
    • He would be rejected by His own nation
    Psalm 69:8 Isaiah 53:3 (compare with) John 5:43 John 1:11 Luke 4:29
    • He would ride into Jerusalem on a donkeyZechariah 9:9 (compare with) John 12:13-14
    • A friend would betray Him for 30 pieces of silver Psalm 55:12-14 Zechariah 11:12-13 Psalm 41:9 (compare with) Matthew 26:15 Matthew 27:3-10
    • He would be a man of sorrows
    Isaiah 53:3
    • He would be forsaken by His followers Zechariah 13:7
    • He would be scourged and spat upon Isaiah 50:6 (compare with) Mark 14:65 John 19:1-3
    • He would be crucified between two thieves Isaiah 53:12 (compare with) Luke 23:33 Matthew 27:38 Mark 15:27-28
    • He would be given vinegar to drinkPsalm 69:21
    • His feet and hands would be pierced Zechariah 12:10 Psalm 22:16 (compare with) John 19:37 John 20:25-27
    • His garments would be gambled for at His death Psalm 22:18 (compare with) Mark 15:24 John 19:24
    • He would commend His spirit to the Father Psalm 31:5
    • Although crucified, no bones would be broken Psalm 34:20 Exodus 12:46
    • He would be buried with the rich
    Isaiah 53:9 (compare with) Matthew 27:57-60
    • He would be raised from the dead Psalm 16:10
    • He would ascend to heaven
    Psalm 24:7-10
    • He would be seated at God’s right hand to intercede for manPsalm 110:1

    There are many prophecies concerning the triumphant return of Jesus Christ, His millennial reign, and His eternal Kingdom.

    You can be 100% sure that if all the prophecies relating to Jesus Christ at His first coming were fulfilled, then all the prophecies concerning His second coming will be fulfilled.

    Moses prophesied that because of spiritual apostasy Israel would be scattered into all nations, not just Assyria or Babylon, (Deut. 28). Moses likewise prohesied that in the end of the age Israel would be joined again together out of all the nations, (Deut. 30).

    After Moses, prophet after prophet all the way to Jesus Christ foretold the dispersion (diaspora) of Israel into all the world, and then their return.
    The following prophecies concerning Israel have all been fulfilled in this generation.

    • Hosea prophesied the Diaspora would last for 2,000 years
    Hosea 3:4-5 Hosea 5:15 Psalm 90:4 Hosea 6:1-3
    • Returning Israel would have to buy back the land Jeremiah 32:44
    • Hebrew would return as the official national languageZephaniah 3:8-10
    • Israel would be reborn in a day
    Isaiah 67:7-9
    • At the return, three world leaders would die in one month Zechariah 11:8 Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and Franklin Roosevelt all died in one month in 1945.
    • The order of return would be: east (mideast); west (Europe); north (Russia); and south (Ethiopia). Isaiah 43:3-22 The return was in exactly that exact order.
    • Cities of Israel would be renamed according to Biblical namesEzekiel 36:11,24
    • Desolate land to again become abundantly productive Isaiah 27:6 Isaiah 62:4
    • Scientific irrigation resulting in annual crop rotation Amos 9:11-15
    • Barren mountains of Israel to be covered with many varities of trees
    Isaiah 41:8-20
    • Increased rainfall …. both the latter and former rains restored Joel 2:1,23
    • Jerusalem an international problem Zechariah 12:1-3
    • Restored Israel to be a democracy with governors (Knesset) Zechariah 12:5-6
    • Small Israeli army to win amazing victories Zechariah 12:6
    • Israel to have continued problems with Edomites (Palestinians)
    Amos 9:11-12

    In the days of Peleg, at the time of the building of the Tower of Babel,Genesis 10:25 God divided the land mass of the earth into continents and islands.

    In Acts 17:24-27 God purposed to disperse mankind into islands and continents to establish nations. As the nations grew into empires, God said that the empires would fall and be broken up again into separate nations until His own King of Kings would reign supreme.

    The second chapter of Daniel gives us the prophetic course of empires and nations from the image of King Nebuchadnezzar’s dream.
    • Babylon, the head of gold, would fall to Medo-Persia. Fulfilled in 538 B.C.
    • Medo-Persia would fall to Greece. Fulfilled in 333 B.C.
    • Greece would be divided into four empires: Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, and Asia.Fulfilled in 320 B.C.
    • The four part division of Greece would be absorbed by Rome, the iron empire, and the last world empire.Fulfilled approximately around 165 B.C.
    • The Roman Empire would split and break into pieces. Fulfilled in A.D. 500
    • The pieces of the Roman Empire would continue to rule the world until the end of the age: the Spanish, French, British, German, Portuguese, Belgium, and Italian empires, etc.
    • The separate pieces (chunks)[empires] would bruise, or war, between themselves Daniel 2:40. English-Spanish war; French and English wars; Napoleonic wars; World War I and II, etc.
    • In the latter part of the age, the chunks [empires] would be broken into smaller pieces.Daniel 2:41Franklin Roosevelt and Joseph Stalin forced Winston Churchill to agree to a break up of the Roman colonial system. The number of nations in 1945 of 70 rose to approximately 200 by the year 2000.
    • A combination of European nations within the original Roman Empire would form a revived Roman Empire to bring forth the Antichrist. This is now is the stages of final completion with the European Union.

    To list all of the prophecies of the 66 books of the Bible would require a considerable amount of time and space. In order to capture the meaning of the prophetic Word for today, I have listed some that relate to a contemporary eschatological setting.
    • Increase of wars and rumors of wars Joel 3:9-10
    Matthew 24:6-7
    • Extreme materialism2 Timothy 3:1-2 Revelation 3:14-19
    • Lawlessness Proverbs 30:11 2 Timothy 3:1-3
    • Population explosion Genesis 6:1 Luke 17:26
    • Increasing speed and knowledge Daniel 12:4
    • Departure from the Christian faith 2 Thessalonians 2:3 1 Timothy 4:1-4 2 Peter 3:3-4 2 Timothy 3:5 2 Timothy 4:3-4
    • Unification of the world’s religious, political, and economic systems
    Revelation 13:4-8 Revelation 13:16-17 Revelation 17:1-18 Revelation 18:1-24
    • Universal drug usage (“sorceries” here can also refer to drugs)
    Revelation 9:21
    • Abnormal sexual activity
    Romans 1:17-32 2 Peter 2:10,14 2 Peter 3:3 Jude 18
    • Intense demonic activity
    Genesis 6:1-4 1 Timothy 4:1-3
    • Mass slaughter of innocents by unconcerned mothers (abortion)
    Romans 1:31 2 Timothy 3:3
    • Widespread violenceGenesis 6:11,13 2 Timothy 3:1 Revelation 9:21
    • Rejection of God’s Word
    2 Timothy 4:3-4 2 Peter 3:3-4,16
    • Rejection of God HimselfPsalm 2:1-3
    • Blasphemy2 Timothy 3:2 2 Peter 3:3 Jude 18
    • Self-seeking and pleasure-seeking 2 Timothy 3:2,4
    • Men minus a conscience1 Timothy 4:2
    • Religious cons2 Peter 2:3
    • Outright devil worshippers
    Revelation 9:20 Revelation 13:11-14
    • Rise of false prophets and antichrists 2 Peter 2:1-2 Matthew 24:5 Matthew 24:11
    • False claims of peace 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3
    • Rapid advances in technology
    Genesis 4:22 Luke 17:26
    • Great political and religious upheavals in the Holy Land
    Matthew 24:32-34

    Along with these we could add the development of weapons of mass destruction; space travel, increase of deceivers and lying wonders; depreciation of nationalism; and a “back-to-Babel” world government (New World order).

    When we consider that over 90% of all the prophecies in the Bible have been fulfilled exactly as foretold, the less than 10% that apply to the future will also be fulfilled exactly as foretold.

    We shall now consider thirteen of the most important unfulfilled prophecies.
    Again due to time and space constraints these prophecies will be presented in less detail.

    It is up to you to take this information and continue to study on your own.
    2 Timothy 2:15

    Middle East Peace Treaty
    We are told by Zechariah and other prophets that Jerusalem will be a matter of great controversy to all nations in the last days.

    The only peace Israel has ever known was in the days of Solomon, and since it became a nation in 1948 there has been no peace, even though there have been more than 50 peace treaties or agreements negotiated and signed, some of which were the Wye River Memorandum and the Sharem El-Sheik Agreement of October 2000.

    As written in Daniel 9:27, the Antichrist will confirm or guarantee a peace agreement or treaty between Israel and its enemies. However, there will be no peace. In fact, this false peace treaty initiates the Great Tribulation period. From current news reports, this treaty could be signed by the Antichrist at any time.

    The Tribulation
    In the chronological order of eschatology, the Tribulation is a seven-year period of war, pandemic plagues, earthquakes, astral catastrophes, and other judgments that will kill approximately three-fourths of the population of the world.

    Daniel said of this period, “…. and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time ….” Daniel 12:1 Jesus said, “For there shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” Matthew 24:22 The Tribulation period will end with the coming of Jesus Christ at Armageddon.

    The Rapture
    Unfulfilled prophecy number three is the Rapture. Rapture is an inclusive word used to describe the resurrection of Christians who have died in the past, along with the changing of Christians who are alive from mortal bodies to immortal bodies, all rising to meet Jesus Christ in the air, or the heavens.

    This event occurs immediately after the Antichrist confirms the peace treaty and the Tribulation begins. Daniel 9:27 (see also 1 Thessalonians chapters 4 and 5) I believe there is prophetic evidence the church will not go through the Tribulation.

    Antichrist’s Appearance
    Unfulfilled prophecy number four is the revealing of Antichrist’s indentity. For the first half of the Tribulation, the Antichrist solidifies his leadership and advantage. He will be a great orator; Daniel 11:36 a political and commercial genius;
    Daniel 11:41 Revelation 13:16-17 he may be homosexual; Daniel 11:37 and a clever liar and deceiver.
    2 Thessalonians 2:9-10

    At the middle of the Tribulation (after three and a half years), he gains political and economic control over all the world,
    Revelation 13:7 Revelation 13:16-17 and then demands on penalty of death that everyone worship him as God. Revelation 13:8 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 The last half of the Tribulation, the Antichrist will be the most cruel dictator the world has ever known. Although Christians may never know who the Antichrist is, he is probably in the world today.

    Abomination of Desolation
    Unfulfilled prophecy number five is the Abomination of Desolation. The Abomination of Desolation is referenced many places in scripture, four times in the book of Daniel alone. The “abomination” is when the Antichrist stands in the Temple Mount in Jerusalem on worldwide television and declares himself to be God. Daniel 12:1 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Matthew 24:15

    The “desolation” will be atomic wars which follow in which all grass will be burned up; one-third of the trees will be burned up; oceans and rivers will be contaminated; cities will be burned; and nations like Egypt will be so wasted and poisoned that no one can live in the country for forty years. Ezekiel 29:9-11 (see also Matthew 24; Luke 21
    and Revelations 5-19)

    Mark of the Beast
    Prophecy number six that has not as yet been fulfilled is the mark of the beast. After the Antichrist becomes the dictator of the world and is worshipped as God, he will demand that every person be assigned a number and a mark (code). Only those who are assigned a number will be able to work, buy, or sell.

    Only those who acknowledge Antichrist as God will get the mark, and an attempt will be made to kill everyone who does not have the mark. Revelation 13:16-17
    Only in our day does the technology exist to employ and enforce the mark of the beast.

    The Coming of Elijah
    and the Two Witnesses
    The seventh unfilled prophecy is the coming of Elijah. Elijah and Enoch are the only two men who have escaped physical death by being taken up to Heaven alive. According to the prophet Malachi, Elijah must come back to precede the Messiah when He comes in power and glory to bring in the Kingdom.
    Malachi 4:4-6

    Malachi mentioned Moses also in conjunction with the coming of Elijah, and both Moses and Elijah were with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration when He revealed to James, John, and Peter His glory when He would come again. According to Revelation 11, God will send two witnesses to bring judgments against the Antichrist. It appears that the two witnesses will be Moses and Elijah.

    Israel’s Hiding Place
    Unfulfilled prophecy number eight is the flight of israel at the middle of the Tribulation to a place of safety. Jesus foretold that after the Antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation, he will make a final attempt to kill every Jew. To escape, the Jews in Jerusalem must immediately run for the mountains.

    Petra, a large cave city (Mt. Seir; Mt. Hor) is the only hiding place that fits the Biblical description of Israel’s hiding place in the last half of the Tribulation. Petra is in ancient Edom, the city of Esau, the ancient home of modern Palestinians. “Who will bring me into the strong city? Who will lead me into Edom? Wilt not thou, O God ….”
    Psalm 60:1 Psalm 60:9-12 (see also Ezekiel 35)

    The Battle of Armageddon
    The ninth unfulfilled prophecy is the Battle of Armageddon. Revelation 16:16 The Battle of Armageddon will terminate the Tribulation period. This last battle will include armies from all nations. Millions of men will be involved, we can read in revelations 9:13-21 that the nations of the East will send an army of 200 million men.

    There are scores of prophecies in both the Old and New Testaments that describe the coming conflict. (See Zech. 14:2-3; Zeph. 3:8; Isa. 65; Rev. 19, etc.)

    This battle will continue from Megiddo near modern Haifa to Bozrah (modern Beseira) in Jordan, a distance of 176 miles (1,600 furlongs). The evident purpose of this battle is to destroy Jerusalem and prevent the return of Jesus Christ. However, the entire army is destroyed by Jesus Christ and the armies of Heaven. The Antichrist and the False Prophet will be cast alive, without being judged, into the Lake of Fire.

    THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST
    The tenth unfulfilled prophecy is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Jesus said, “If I go away, I will come again.” Angels on the Mt. of Olives at His ascension to Heaven said that He would come back to the Mt. of Olives. Acts 1:9-12
    Zechariah said at that time the mountain would split, Zechariah 14:1-5 Ezekiel 44:1-3 and the Eastern Gate that had been shut would open.

    At the Rapture, Jesus will not come to the Earth. At the Second Coming at the Battle of Armageddon, He will come down to earth, and every eye of every person who survives the tribulation, including the Jews, will see Him. Revelation 1:7 Matthew 24:27

    During the Tribulation two thirds of the Jews in Israel will have been killed, but after the Battle of Armageddon, Jesus will go to Bozrah north of Petra, and lead the remnant back to Israel. (see Isaiah 65)
    Then Jesus will establish His Throne upon Mt. Zion in Jerusalem and Judge (rule) the nations with a “rod of iron.” Revelation 2:27 Matthew 25:31-32 Revelation 12:5 Revelation 19:15

    The Millennium
    The eleventh unfulfilled prophecy concerns the Millennium. Six times in Revelation 20 the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ on Earth over the nations is mentioned. This will be the seventh millennium since Adam. During the thousand year reign, all nations will destroy their armaments and there will be no wars.
    Isaiah 2:4 Leaders of the nations will be required to go to Jerusalem and worship the Lord and learn of His laws. If any go not up as commanded that nation will be judged.
    Matthew 25:31-32 Revelation 12:5 Zechariah 15:16-21

    Solar changes in the Tribulation will revert Earth’s ecology back to the pre-flood time and people during the Millennium will live to be hundreds of years old. Isaiah 65:25
    The devil will be bound and God’s curse upon the Earth for sin will be removed, and the ground will once again yeild everything that man will need. Ezekiel 34:27
    Isaiah 65:25 Romans 8:18-23
    The law will be enforced and criminals swiftly executed. Isaiah 65:20
    The Millennium ends with another rebellion of the nations, the earth, and everything in it will be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10 Revelations 20:9-11

    The Great White Throne Judgment
    We now come to the twelveth unfulfilled prophecy, the Great White Throne Judgment of Revelations 20:11. The chronology of resurrection for those who inherit eternal life is given in 1 Corinthians 15:23: “…. Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at His coming.” However, Paul preceded this revelation with a qualifying phrase: “But every man in his own order.”

    The resurrection of the “saved” is: Jesus Christ …. all members of the church of the dispensation of grace …. Old Testament saints …. martyrs of the Tribulation period. “This is the first resurrection” Revelations 20:5
    The saved of the Millennium will live to be almost 1,000 years old (no man has yet lived to be a 1,000 in the flesh), then they will go into the New Heaven and New Earth without experiencing death. All the unsaved dead of the ages will be raised to be judged.
    All those raised at the Great White Throne Judgment without Jesus will go into the eternal Lake of Fire because their names are not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
    Revelations 20:5 Matthew 25:41

    The New Heaven and New Earth
    We come now to the final, unfulfilled major prophecy of the Bible, a New heaven and a New Earth. Revelations 21:1
    Neither the heavens nor the earth are clean in God’s sight. Isaiah 34:4 Job 15:15-16
    Revelations 6:14

    At the beginning of the eighth millennium, God who created the first heavens and the first earth with the Words of His mouth will create new heavens and a new earth where the redeemed, who had chosen Him because they wanted to, not because they had to, will love and worship Him forever.

    John, in Revelation 21-22, describes in earthly language the New heavens and the New Earth where the redeemed will live forever. (see also Eph. 1:1-14)
    But no language is sufficient to describe, or our minds visualize, the unfathomable beauty and glory of God’s new creation.

    “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come …”(Rev. 22:17)

    Everyone reading this can come to the New Heaven and New Earth by receiving Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.
    Jesus said, ” …. I go to prepare a place for you …. that where I am, there ye may be also.” (John 14:2-3)


  7. @ BAFBFP/ROK etc.
    Check out the following scripture, please.
    Philipians Chapter 2:
    9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
    10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
    11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    There is nothing else for anyone else to add. You can take this or leave it. Your choice. But remember there are consequences to all choices!


  8. BAFBFP

    RE I have always and will continue to disagree with you both.

    Thats Ok. You have presented your views and I have tried to explain why I agree or disagree with you. I think that we have been able to do this with a certain amount of civility.


  9. Main Events That Will Occur
    Before the Tribulation

    1. Restoration of the State of Israel
    The Jewish people return to the land of Israel and re-establish it as a state. This sign has already come to pass and it occurred on 5/14/48. The city of Jerusalem was then regained by the Jewish people on 6/7/67.
    2. Miscellaneous Signs
    Jesus Himself tells us that the following signs will occur as we approach the end times.
    a) Perilous times will come.

    b) False Christs and false prophets will arise.

    c) Wars and rumors of wars.

    d) Nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom.

    e) Famines, pestilences and earthquakes.

    f) Lawlessness and immorality will abound.

    g) Love of many will grow cold.

    h) Christians will depart from the faith giving heed to doctrines of demons.

    i) Men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, unholy, proud, boasters, blasphemers, unloving, disobedient to parents, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, traitors, headstrong, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God and unthankful.

    3. Rise of the Antichrist, False Prophet and a 10 Nation Confederacy From Which They Will Rule This Earth From.
    4. Rise of the City of Babylon
    5. Russia and Her Allies Will Invade Israel. God Will Then Supernaturally Destroy This Invading Army.

    Main Events That Will Occur
    During the 7 Year Tribulation

    1. The Antichrist Establishes a Peace Treaty and a Covenant with Israel
    2. The Jewish Temple is Rebuilt
    3. God’s Counterbalances:
    • The 2 Witnesses
    • 144,000 Jewish Witnesses
    • Major Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
    • Angel of the Everlasting Gospel allowed to preach the gospel
    4. The Antichrist Will Destroy the City of Babylon
    5. A War in Heaven Breaks Out

    Michael the Archangel and his angels cast Satan out of the second heaven and onto the earth. The Devil becomes furious when this event occurs because he knows that his time is short.

    6. The Abomination of Desolation
    Three and half years into the Tribulation, the Antichrist will break his peace treaty with Israel, seat himself up in their rebuilt temple and proclaim himself to be God.
    7. The 7 Seal Judgments
    These 7 judgments will probably occur during the first half of the Tribulation. They are as follows:
    a) The Antichrist will be released and allowed to set out to conquer the earth.

    b) The Antichrist will be allowed to take peace from the earth and cause many people to kill one another.

    c) The Antichrist will cause slave labor conditions to exist where people will be working for minimum pay just to be able to buy enough food for a day.

    d) The martyrs will cry out to God in heaven to avenge their deaths. God says to wait just a little while longer.

    e) God causes a great earthquake to hit the earth, causing every mountain and every island to move out of its place. He also causes the sun to turn black and the moon to look like blood.

    f) There is silence in heaven for a half an hour. An angel offers the prayers of God’s people to Him to avenge them.
    8. The 7 Trumpet Judgments
    These 7 judgments will occur during the middle to latter part of the Tribulation. They are as follows:
    a) God rains down hail and fire upon the earth – burning up one third of the trees and all of the green grass.

    b) God releases a meteor into the sea turning one third of the sea into blood, killing one-third of all living creatures in the sea and destroying one third of the ships that are on the sea.

    c) God releases another meteor, hitting one third of the rivers and springs, causing contamination of the water and many men to die.

    d) God strikes a third of the sun, a third of the moon and a third of the stars so that they give no light. This causes a third of the day not to shine.

    e) The bottomless pit is allowed to open up releasing a huge swarm of locusts to attack all the people who do not have God’s seal on their foreheads. They are not allowed to kill these people, but to just torment them with their bite. These people will be seeking death and will not be able to find it.

    f) 4 demonic angels are released from the Euphrates river to kill a third of mankind. These 4 demonic angels will lead an army of 200 million demonic spirits to carry out this mass slaughter of humans.

    g) Heaven is now beginning to rejoice because God is releasing His wrath upon the wicked on the earth and extracting His vengeance. God then releases more lightnings, another earthquake and more great hail upon the earth.
    9. The 7 Bowl Judgments
    These 7 judgments will occur during the latter part of the Tribulation. They are as follows:
    a) God causes loathsome sores to fall upon those who have the mark of the Beast.

    b) God causes the entire sea waters to become blood – killing every living creature in the seas.

    c) God causes all the rivers and springs to turn into blood.

    d) God causes the heat from the sun to scorch men with great heat and fire.

    e) God causes total darkness to fall upon the kingdom of the Antichrist.

    f) The Euphrates river is allowed to dry up so as to prepare the way for the kings of the east to come to the battle of Armageddon. Then 3 demonic spirits are released from the mouths of the Antichrist and False Prophet and they go out to all the kings of the earth to bring all of them to the battle of Armageddon.

    g) God causes the greatest and most severe earthquake to hit the earth. The city of Babylon is completely finished off and swallowed up whole. This earthquake causes all of the islands to flee away and all of the mountains to be no longer found. God then rains down great hailstones weighing 135 pounds each. God then says: “It is done.”
    10. The Battle of Armageddon
    All the nations of the world come against Jerusalem. Half of the city will go into captivity, houses will be rifled and the women ravished. Then deliverance comes!
    Main Events That Will Occur
    After the Tribulation
    1. The Second Coming of Jesus
    Immediately following the Tribulation and right in the middle of the battle of Armageddon, Jesus literally descends from heaven where every eye will be able to see Him. Jesus will land on the Mount of Olives and He will then destroy all of the invading armies who have come against Jerusalem. Their flesh will dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes will dissolve in their sockets and their tongues will dissolve in their mouths.
    Jesus then throws the Antichrist and False Prophet into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. Jesus then throws Satan into the bottomless pit where he is kept chained up for a 1000 years. The rest of unsaved humanity is kept in Hades (Hell) until the 1000 Millennium Kingdom is over.
    2. The Millennium Kingdom
    Jesus will literally rule our earth from the city of Jerusalem for 1000 years with all of the saints ruling the nations of the earth with Him. There will be no more wars ever again. Wild animals and beasts will be tame. People will live long lives – possibly up to a 1000 years. There will be no more weeping or crying.
    3. Satan is Let Loose One More Time
    After the 1000 years have passed in the Millennium Kingdom, Satan is let loose from the bottomless pit for a little while in order to go out and attempt to deceive the nations of the world for one last time. God allows Satan to tempt and weed out the restless bad apples that were born into the Millennium Kingdom. They will all converge on the city of Jerusalem to go into battle.
    Before any battle is fought, God will destroy this invading army with fire. Satan is then cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone where he will now join the Antichrist and False Prophet. All three of them will now remain in this place forever and ever and we will never hear from the devil again.
    4. The Great White Throne Judgment
    All of unsaved humanity is now pulled up out of Hades (Hell) where they will now all stand before God for their final judgment. All of those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life are thrown into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone where they will all remain forever with Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet.
    5. The New Heaven and New Earth
    Our earth and our atmospheric heaven are now done away with, and in its place we will get a new heaven and a new earth. There will no longer be any seas. There will no longer be any night. There will no longer be any sun or moon because the glory of God will be illuminating the earth.
    There will no longer be any more death in any way, shape or form. The curse of Adam and Eve will have finally been broken and done away with for good. There will be no more sorrow, pain, crying or weeping. All things will be made new.
    God the Father Himself will now come down from heaven and dwell with man forever and ever in this new heaven and new earth. We will also get a new city of Jerusalem which will come down from heaven itself.
    This new city will be like a square and possibly 1500 miles wide. The foundations of the walls will be adorned with all kinds of precious stones. There will be 12 gates with an angel at each gate. The gates will be made of solid pearl and the streets will be solid gold.
    There shall no longer be any temple as God and Jesus will be the temple Themselves. All the nations of the earth shall walk in Their light and the gates into this city will never be closed.
    Now with Satan, all of his demons, and all of the bad and unsaved people taken out of this new heavenly environment, we will now all live happily ever after with God the Father, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, all of God’s good angels and all of our saved loved ones in the most perfect God-environment imaginable – with no more pain, sorrow or death ever again!
    This is our final end. This is our ultimate destination. Keep your eyes on this final glorious end as we start to approach and enter into these end time events. It will help get you through the fire.
    Remember, God will win in the end and so will you if you keep your faith in Jesus Christ through what may be some very difficult times ahead. Jesus Himself has already told us that those who are the overcomers in this life will be the ones to rule the nations of the world with Him in these coming eras.


  10. @Georgie Porgie

    Thanks for the wealth of Biblical info…

    I have a QUESTION:-

    Which “DENOMINATION” does this articulation come from?

    Would you be kind enough to divulge that for me?

    Thanks!!!


  11. The info I sent you is accepted by many evangelical Bible teaching churches. Certainly most Baptists and Plymouth Brethren I know accept these tenets.

    So do many who were trained at Dallas Theological Seminary regardless to thier denomination.

    But amoung serious Bible teaching churches with whom I have been associated since 1968, this is the basics of Bible Prophecy teaching.

    I learned a lot of my Eschatology by reading booklets fron Radio Bible Class, reading writings of J Vernon McGee, Ray Stedman, Constable Arthur Pink etc I dont know the denominations of any of these chaps but they tend to agree.

    Some folk stress and exegete some verses completely (explainly the Greek and giving all the cross references etc) , others leave out some verses and all the trappings.

    Piece by piece you fill in the gaps FOR YOUR SELF as the Spirit interprets it for you. But generally I found these guys to be good guides. I have never really followed any denominational teaching since I left the Anglican church.


  12. I am not going to be a dutiful wife GP and nod and say I agree!

    But ……. why would my GOD do such horrible things to his people (me the inclusion)? Is it to prove that he is in control?

    I know he is …… Every thing that you have said would make any true christian or right thinking person give up his faith because it seems as if it is allll doom and gloom for a very long time!

    Sigh!

    I dont like this story …. to much hardship for women and children just too much hardship!

    I dont understand it I dont!

    Help me along cause it does not sound fair!

    I am sorry but must question you!


  13. Adolph Hitler had the right approach for the Jews.He made one major mistake and that is he should have exterminated every single Jew.If that had occurred I am sure the Palestinians would be happy and would not be in the predicament those unfortunate people find themselves in today

    Adolph Hitler was also right when he refused to shake Jesse Owens hand.I am in total agreement with his actions. Jesse Owen a Black man representing the United States of America a country that at that time was hanging,lynching & murdering Black People just for the fun of it. The same United States of America who had as part of its constitution a part that states that Black People were 1/3 of a White person and was categorized at the same level of animals.We were consider equal to horses,goat ,sheep,dogs & cats Jesse Owen a product of a Black family could be representing a country at that time who treated the people of his ethnicity in such a callous manner.I agreed when Adolph Hitler when he told him that instead of being up in Germany representing that despicable country,he should have been in USA fighting for the liberation of his people from the white criminals who had them in bondage.

    I respect Adolph Hitler principles he was correct.The Jews had the Germans oppressed in their own country and he was right to launch the liberation struggle that freed his people from the Jewish bondage that his people found themselves in.

    Black people of this world could learn something from Adolph Hitler.That is put Race First..


  14. JC
    The God I serve don’t punish people, people punish themselves. God has given us simple mandate to a life hereafter and he has given us the choice, (a) live according to my laws or (b) face the punishment that will follow, the choice is ours. Therefore, if we decide to go against God’s laws, then we would also be saying, we accept the punishment metted out, it is as simple as that. The wages of sin is death, the gift of God is eternal life: You can’t serve God and the Devil. The choice is an individual choice, I can’t chose for my wife ,my children or anyone else, we make that choice for ourselves.


  15. “Black people of this world could learn something from Adolph Hitler.That is put Race First.”

    **********

    Negroman should be aware this is a virtual impossibility as, unlike the white race, there is n’t really a black race – for obvious reasons, e.g. take Thompy and ML King. Do u c a difference? Well, if u can, that’s the dilemma facing everyone who talks about ‘a black race’ – exactly, which tone of black r u referring to which is why we can never have a single aim because we have differing alleigances!!


  16. Hi JC
    First let me say that the Scout has given good advice, that can not be condemned.

    You don’t have to nod and say you agree, when you know that you dont! And you don’t have to apologize to question.

    Do you think that all believers understand everything? No they don’t!
    Do you think that believers do not also question? Yes they do!
    Do we always feel upbeat and happy? No. Like David we are sometimes sad and depressed, as we wait for the redemption of our bodies.

    We see Abraham called the Father of the Faithfull questioning. We see Habakkuk questioning. We see Job a righteous man questioning. So there is nothing wrong with questioning and wondering.

    I don’t understand so many things it aint funny, but I still believe that Christ died for my sins according to the Scriptures and that he was buried and rose again according to the Scriptures. And I believe that he is coming again too!

    When believers that I know meet we don’t talk about doom and gloom my friend, because we know that “ God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.” I Thess 5 :19-11
    We look forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing as taught in Titus 2

    JC I often make a mess off it, but I really try to emulate the men described in Hebrews 11. I wish I had the kind of faith that Noah had to build a boat in the middle of nowhere. Or Abraham who left a great civilization in Ur of the Chaldees to live a nomadic existence……… and died not seeing ALL the promises made to him

    You think it was easy for Joseph in Egypt for 13 years; suffereing for nothing wrong that he had done. Or Caleb & Joshua who had to wait 40 years to enter the promise land even though they had brought a good report?

    If you have doubts and misunderstandings go out in the pasture or your garden alone or along the beach wherever and talk to God about it.
    11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
    11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
    11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as [in] a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
    11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker [is] God.
    11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.
    11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, [so many] as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
    11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
    11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
    11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that [country] from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
    11:16 But now they desire a better [country], that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
    11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],
    11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
    11:19 Accounting that God [was] able to raise [him] up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
    11:20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
    11:21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, [leaning] upon the top of his staff.
    11:22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
    11:23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw [he was] a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment.
    11:24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter;
    11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
    11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
    11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
    11:28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
    11:29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry [land]: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.
    11:30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
    11:31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
    All I can say is in James 1 he says not “IF” we are tried or tested but “WHEN”

    Seems the best men and women sometimes get the hardest tests.


  17. JC

    This is a note I got today from a colleague and a Christian man in Kenya.

    It is a long time since we touched base but I believe you are still holding on despite the difficulties. I am also fine and holding onto Christ.

    things are not very good here in Kenya. It is like God has already judged our nation. there is so much drought with people dying of hunger!! Cows are dying in thousands and it is heartbreaking to see them being buried using bulldozers!! our rivers have dried up, lakes are drying and people have already started to fight with grave consequences. Our politicians do not care.
    For us Christians we should continue to look up to Christ I myself do not find it easy.

    You see even Christians suffer .


  18. I am incredulous at the ignorance if not the evil that Negroman has written in praising Hitler. While he may be free to write and post what he wants, it behooves those of us claiming some common decency to condemn him as a wicked-minded ignoramus.


  19. Civility is fine Prof, thank you. Maybe Zoe could learn a thing or two about such an approach.

    I’m done here.


  20. Anonymous

    Why bother. Have you not read Proverbs 26:4-5 ?

    4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
    5 Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes.


  21. “I am incredulous at the ignorance if not the evil that Negroman has written in praising Hitler.”

    You know, it is amazing how we allow propaganda to so envelop us that we would callously dismiss a serious inquiry on the basis of a stereotypical cliche.

    I think we say things we ought to say rather than seeing the evidence objectively. Any serious study can easily finger the reason for Hitler’s rampage on Jews and one of the clues is his identification with the Arian religion.

    Just check back the Council of Nicea and see that Arian-ity was rejected in favour of Christian-ity as the religion to rule the world.

    Pick your bearings and go from there and while you are at it, compare it with the millions of Africans that died atrocious deaths as slaves over 400 years and then tell me about evil.

    Before you tell of the mote in the eye of another, check the beam in yours. Be not so quick to judge because usually you will find that the grass on your side is just as brown.

  22. Black Scholes Merton Avatar
    Black Scholes Merton

    @ Negroman

    “Adolph Hitler had the right approach for the Jews.He made one major mistake and that is he should have exterminated every single Jew.”

    “I respect Adolph Hitler principles he was correct”

    “Black people of this world could learn something from Adolph Hitler

    Now Negroman, surely you can not be serious. I think you should think a bit before you write.


  23. Georgie Porgie

    I am not debating anything with Negroman. Let the record EXPLICITLY show that at least one person condemned Negroman as a wicked-minded fool. Remember your bosom body and fellow christian,Bush Tea, thinks the world of Negroman.

    Where do you stand on what Negroman has posted @4:03? Silence is said to be acquiescence.


  24. Negroman is so filled with bile that he is rotting from the inside out.

    The bigger question is why the host of this blog allows such crap to be posted for the whole world to see.


  25. ROK

    Hitler promoted the supremacy of the ARYAN peoples hence for example the swastika as the nazi symbol. This had nothing to do with Arianism (the doctrines of Arius).

  26. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    You can say what you like about Negroman, but he knows how to rock the boat.

  27. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    I invite you all to visit sabbah blog.


  28. @BAFBFP……………No. US Proud BLACK people do not need sympathy form ZOE nor CARLOS nor any of his ilk.

    There is a wealth of knowledge out there about BLACK PEOPLE and our ANCESTORS the same people who taught this white ‘mankind’ a language, geometry, khemistry and the list goes on. So when some of your Black brothers post up in here with their white-washed brains, just have a little mercy on them.

    Just to show how sick them and their christianity are…check out their communion—–they repeat words like “Eat this bread as a remembrance of his body and this wine as a remembrance of his blood” and they all just swallow that shit. Now tell me if they are not a cannibalistic cult. This has been passed down from the original blood-letters and blood-suckers. And Black people swallow this shite every Sunday.

    There’s none so blind as he who refuses to see! So leave them unto themselves.


  29. Anuk Anonymous @ 8:26. yours truly.


  30. “…Remember your bosom body and fellow christian,Bush Tea, thinks the world of Negroman.”
    ************************************
    Anonymous, Maybe Bush Tea just does not judge others by words used in a debate.
    Maybe Bush Tea chooses to try to see how others may have radically different views and approaches from my own, and yet may be no worse person than the Bushman.
    Maybe Bush Tea thinks that in the final analysis, it is what a man DOES that can be used to judge him, and not what he says or how he says it, since THAT may simply be a reflection of which educational path he was able to follow.

    It appears that BU David follows a similar path. When the day comes that he needs to apply his editorial standards I feel confident that he will close this blog and open a new one called “David’s Underground”.

    For the record, I do not endorse Negroman’s combative debating style (although as a Bajan with country roots it rings of ‘real real’ Bajan discourse…) but I get most of his points and defend his right to express himself in what he considers his most effective style.

    p.s.
    What anonymous what?!!

    I think that it is impolite not to use a unique handle on a blog like this too… but I respect the fact that you feel differently…


  31. @Negroman………….Let them castigate you because they too have gotten drunk on the lies of the zionist propaganda machines hence they verbalise nothing but kosher diarhhea.

    Anytime they want to measure evil they always use Hitler as the ultimate. But they will never talk about the millions of Russians that they murdered and how they supported apartheid South Afrika. They never tell you that the ‘jew’ was neck deep in the slave trade. They never tell you that it was them who was behind WWs I & II, behind major assassinations in the US. They never tell you that they were the ones who scripted that white-washed bible and painted themselves as ‘the chosen’ while painting Black People as the Slave race…and the list goes on ….and you witness Palestine every day.

    They control the media, the Banks, the education shitstem, reliegion, the IMF, the World Bank and any other institutions where there’s blood to let for profit.

    So Negroman may the Spirit of our Black Ankhcestors, those blacker than a thousand nights, rise up within you, protect you and guide you.

    My Black brother, on my next return home, I’d like to get in contact with you[ if that is ok on your part]. I have some materials I’d like to share with you. So when the time is right I’ll contact you one way or the other.

    Hotep! And Stay Strong!


  32. Negroman ‘Black people of this world could learn something from Adolph Hitler.That is put Race First’

    You moron. Hitler’s underlying motives were only partially race motivated, though he exterminated a whole race doing it.

    Germany was in severe economic depression. So, as many power mad politicians, he found a scapegoat i.e. the Jews and the Germans bought it hook, line, sinker.

    The usual ‘he’s taking YOUR job’ rubbish. Music to an ignorant and poverty stricken man’s ears.

    As usual, there are always a number of blood-thirsty fiends eager to grab what they can and pull others down, Hitler facilitated that well.

    So, far from being action with an (however warped an idea it is) ideal, it was primarily selfishness and power hunger that drove Hitler.

    Nothing more. A nasty little man.

    So, your ignorant chanting praising his motives is reflective of your own lack of understanding.

    But, they do say that ignorance is bliss.


  33. Who would have thought that Negroman would have respect for a white man.

    Must be mellowing as he gets older.


  34. @ Observer
    If you were a typical country Bajan you would easily recognize Negroman as a typical country man.

    A typical scenario would see a group standing under a tree playing dominoes, drinking a few rums, and discussing everything under the sun.

    In language that would make Negroman’s posting seem dainty by comparison, someone would describe the opinion, demeanor and relatives of another who, for example, inadvisedly played a deuce instead of killing the double six.

    Two minutes later, having unexpectedly won the game, the same person is lavished in complementary verbosity – equally laced with spicy adjectives – but painting a completely opposite, if equally colourful picture….and the game goes on. No fight, no police.

    It is a Bajan thing.
    Bonny Peppa clearly masters the form and Negroman is obviously a natural exponent…

    On a blog called ‘Barbados Underground’ these characters seem completely in place to BT.

    ….if I ever catch them on “Oxford Alumni Forum” Bush Tea will personally chase them off….. LOL


  35. Georgie Porgie // September 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM

    *******************************
    I wonder why people castigate the Marquis de Sade for the books he wrote while in prison? The Marquis’s writings have nothing on what you outlined in your post noted above.

    Some god.


  36. Bush Tea

    Negroman is ‘free ‘ ( really at David’s pleasure) to post whatever he cares to. I am similarly free to respond. This is a blog, a virtual world of words. I do not know what Negroman does or has not done in the real world. He is a character on a blog. A persona that may correlate with a real person or just a fiction to provoke notice and comment. The consistent and vituperative comments about non-Black peoples are deplorable but it is really too much for me when Hitler is held up as model for anyone. It is my assessment that the Negroman character whether real or contrived is a wicked-minded, insecure fool flailing at others he believes to be the reason for his failures in life. The author of Negroman may well be a White woman, successful in a profession, business or trade, with a happy family life and quite secure in her life’s outcomes, who has created an outrageous character designed to provoke our sensibilities. Whoever the author and for whatever reason, Negroman actually represents a darkness that lies in the hearts of all men of all races. Certainly comments of similar sentiment have been made about Black people by some Whites. It is thus the comments that I respond to and the character (real or contrived) that goes with them. To ignore Negroman’s comments is to ignore that darkness that is in all of us, that made the Trans Atlantic Slave trade, the Holocaust, Rwanda, Bosnia etc possible. Martin Niemoller’s poem “First they came…” is particularly illuminating.


  37. As I stated before; there’s no such thing as a black race. The white man has so impregnated us and we with them in modern times, that too few of us are truly black any more to talk in terms of a black race to thus, have a common identity!!


  38. @Georgie Porgie

    Powerful words – to that we can all say “AMEN”…


  39. It is good thing NEGROMAN does not live in Britain and in so-called 1st world countries – he would be branded a “holocaust” denier and labeled an anti-Semite / Nazi sympathizer and slapped with a visit from the boys in grey suits…


  40. @Anonymous

    PLEASE DO NOT LET US GIVE (negroman) TOO MUCH TRACTION…

    You know what they say when you fan the flames…

    People get away everyday with saying a bunch of CRAP* because they give the red rag in their mouth’s too much liberty – in the end, they pay for it…


  41. Bush Tea, are you not slightly embarrassed to issue such a ridiculous excuse for Negroman? It’s bad enough that you feel you must somehow soften his intent but then disparage other Bajans by having us believe that his sentiments are those expressed by many? Total rot.


  42. @Negroman

    You would do well to remember the Golden Rule.
    BU will bend over backwards to give you the opportunity to air your view but you should consider what your incendiary words would have accomplished.
    More importantly you should respect what the BU family is trying to do.


  43. In an earlier blog I wrote:

    “Exactly where does the Afro-Bajan expect to run to when it becomes a minority in its own country? Do they really aspire to become the Palestinians of the Carribean?”

    This will be the fate of the Afro-Bajan residing in Barbados if action is not taken immediately to readdress the immigration issue.


  44. X, that may well be the case, however, right at this moment, we’re more concerned with the problems of Israel and the Gaza Strip!! Please don’t ask me why!!

    Laaaaaadddddddddddddd!!


  45. Bimbro never underestimate events that may appear to be happening in a foreign country. Yes the politics of that region may seem remote to the Caribbean. However we must never be complacent.

    I am deeply concerned with the influx of foreigners entering Barbados especially those of Indian origin.

    Bimbro the predator is on your doorstep. I say beware. The Afro-Bajan could become extinct in his/her own country fifty years from now.


  46. Anybody ever heard of an Indian island in the Eastern Caribbean called Ichirouganaim?


  47. Pat

    You have a penchant for your little jabs of total irrelevance, and ignorance.
    The writings of the Marquis de Sade, from whom we got the name sadism and sadist has nothing to do with Basic Bible Prophesy, or the issue under discussion. Why should his writings contain issues of Bible Prophesy?

    You seem to have a hatred for the God of Heaven that has no bounds. The same God that gives you the very breath you take and who has given you all the good things you have enjoyed in your life. And you have the gall to talk about the Bible in the same breath as the nonsense written by an infidel?.

    You are a devil, and one good day you will appear before the great white throne judgement. It will be fun to see you squirm then, as you are sentenced to the lake of fire, you stupid, proud, arrogant ignorant fool that pretends that you know all.

    In professing to be wise you declare yourself to be a fool.
    I wonder why God don’t strike folk like you down like he did with Nebuchadnezzar and others. But your day is coming…………….you will appear before the great white throne.
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