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Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel
Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel

A United Nation inquiry has made the claim that Israel engaged in:

…a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorise a civilian population in Gaza.

It further asserted that some individuals should face:

individual criminal responsibility and both Hamas and the Israeli committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity

Although the inquiry subjected Hamas to censure it was not as severe as that on Israel. The conflict Dec 2008 – Jan 2009 – debated on BU ( Barbados Underground)  – was as a result of tunnels built by Hamas to circumvent the Israeli blockade being bombed by Israel.  Hamas intensified their belligerence and fired rockets into Southern Israel in retaliation, causing panic in the civilian population.  In the resultant war when the Israeli Military crossed into Gaza, in excess of 1,300 Palestinians were killed including 320 children, official figures gave the Israeli death toll as 20.

Due to the high number of Palestinians who lost their lives and the disproportionate force used by Israel with consequent civilian damage in Gaza, pressure was put on the UN to conduct an inquiry. The UN chose the  experienced and respected South African Judge Richard Goldstein, he came with a background  suited to the task.  “He was the Chief Prosecutor for the United Nations International Criminal Tribunals for the Yugoslavia and Rwanda from 15 August 1994 to September 1996. He was a member of the International Panel of the Commission of Enquiry into the Activities of Nazism in Argentina ( CEANA ) established in 1997 to identify Nazi war criminals who had emigrated to Argentina.”

The UN inquiry has called for an independent investigation, if this is not done the matter should be referred to the International Criminal Court.

Israel has been robust in their defence of the military action taken in Gaza.  Saying their accusers are against Israel, this is not surprising as the allegations against Israel are serious indeed: the inquiry noted  “Grave breaches” of the fourth Geneva Convention and of a war crime for using Palestinians as human shields.”

It is difficult to understand the reasoning behind Israel’s claim that the accusers are against Israel.  Richard Goldstein – chairman of the UN inquiry – is Jewish and a very experienced Judge, with close ties to Israel.

Mark Regev the Israeli government spokesman has said:…”the Israeli Government is conducting its own investigation into the conflict”.  However, Judge Goldstein responded that ” the Israeli investigations are being conducted behind closed doors and as such are not to an “acceptable standard”.

Israel’s Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu condemned the report as a “kangaroo court”, a charge which does not carry much credence because the Israeli Government refused to participate in the UN investigations…thus having no  input.

Judge Richard Goldstein’s daughter with less hyperbolic language is reported to have said:

“My father is a Zionist who loves Israel.”

“I know better than anyone else that he thought however hard it was to accept it, he was doing the best thing for everyone, including Israel,…”He is honest, tells things how he sees them and wants to uncover the truth.”


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530 responses to “UN Inquiry Accuses Israel Of War Crimes In Gaza”


  1. The UN report also found that “found that the repeated acts of firing rockets and mortars into Southern Israel by Palestinian armed groups “constitute war crimes and may amount to crimes against humanity,”

    The Report also notes serious human rights violations, including arbitrary arrests and extra-judicial executions of Palestinians, by the authorities (i.e Hamas) in Gaza and by the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

    Yardbroom’s glaring and convenient omission of the above stated comments reveals his agenda.

  2. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    The United Nations and all Human rights bodies have been condemming Israel for decades for their atrocites against Arabs not just Palestinians.

    This is most evil country in Modern times.


  3. Is there any perceptible change in President Obama’s Middle East policy?


  4. Which Caribbean nation had the most consistent record of support for Israel at the UN, second only to the USA? The then most beloved Prime Minister of this country justified his support for Israel on the basis of his part Jewish ancestry. What was that old Bajan saying – “follow fashion, kill Cadogan”!


  5. I think it is article (7) in the Hamas charter, and I paraphrase, ‘That Israel must NOT exist’ it must be annihilated from the face of the earth…’ sounds familiar, the same kind of chosen words, flow from the mouth of that ‘Madman’ from Iran, Ahmadindejad; such sentiments against the sanctioned state of Israel from May 1948, have been relentlessly expressed from Nassar of Egypt, Arafat, et al for the past 60 years.

    No other ethnic people on the face of the earth, have been subjected to the Arab’s use of ‘Turnspeak’ a cynical, twisting of the facts, to make the victim appear as the aggressor, as Israel has been subjected to for sixty years.

    Israel is the APEX of the consummation of all End-Time prophesy in God’s Word, the Bible; unfolding exactly as He said it would. It is only a matter of months, before Israel HAS to strike Iran, Syria, and Hamas, the beginning of World War 111, a choice that leaves no alternative for the Jewish state, as ALL three of the vehement Terrorist entities, desire Israel’s destruction.

    Couple this inevitability, with the present ongoing world-wide economic crisis, and what do we see?

    Again, all clearly predicted in God’s Word in Matthew 24.

    A taste of Hell, is about to visit the earth very soon; we ain’t see nothing yet!


  6. David, Obama is making the gravest mistake in not supporting Israel in its right to settlement construction, and an undivided right to Jerusalem as its capital, which WAS so from over 3000 years ago.

    This decision by Obama, will no doubt be his demise, as he is going against Almighty God, not mankind, he is a FOOL! You don’t mess with Israel!


  7. It is written in Psalm 2:1 Why are the nations in an uproar And the peoples devising a vain thing?

    One translation puts it this way Why are the nations so violently moved, and why are the thoughts of the people so foolish?

    Another translation Why do the nations gather together? Why do their people devise useless plots?

    Here are some interesting translations of this pertinent question

    Why are the nations in an uproar And the peoples devising a vain thing?

    Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain?

    Why are the nations in tumultuous agitation, and why do the peoples meditate a vain thing?

    Why have nations tumultuously assembled? And do peoples meditate vanity?

    Verse 2 goes on tho say “ The kings of the Earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against His Anointed, saying, 3 Let us break Their bands asunder, and cast away Their cords from us…

    The answer to these questions is that mankind has always been against God and His Word. Mankind refuses to believe the word of God and the prophetic scriptures concerning Israel. In their ignorance of the Word of God they talk foolish and act stupidly.

    The scriptures expressly teach that we should “pray for the peace of Jerusalem.”

    In the first announcement of the Abrahamic Covenant in Genesis 12:1-2 we read 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

    Note verse 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    The truth of this verse has not changed.

    The UK was once a great Nation because God blessed them due to their position with respect to Israel. When this nation committed a great act of anti-Semitism inceca 1912 they declined steadily.

    The USA has developed to be a great Nation because God blessed them due to their position with respect to Israel.

    God uses men for His purposes. He sets them up and puts them down. Obama “the God” of the age to many can and will commit further acts of anti-Semitism and God will deal with the USA just as he has done with the UK.

    You can call me foolish for believing God’s Word and for my understanding of Eschatology. But all of the prophets teach that at the Glorious Appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ at the end of the Tribulation that Jesus will destroy all of the nations who are currently raging against His chosen people at the UN, and who will come against Israel at the Battle of Armageddon.

    You can believe this or not. But your decision not to believe will not change the facts.

    I remember the day when Katrina passed over South Florida, and dropped a little water in Fort Lauderdale.
    We were watching the eviction of Israelites from the Gaza strip in an operation spear headed by the mighty USA. Less than a week later, the world watched in amazement as more Americans in Louisianna were displaced from their homes than Israelis from the Gaza strip, by the same harmless Katrina that passed over South Florida a few days before.

    The world watched in 2005 when under USA persuasion Israel gave up the Gaza strip that they developed to the “Palestinians”. Lovely green houses etc and facilities for sustainable development were handed over . Pray tell “What have the “Palestinians” done with these riches in a few years?

    Obama “the God” of the age to many can and will change the policy in the Middle East.

    I look forward in eager anticipation to see the rapid demise of the “great” USA as a consequence, and the further development of the New World Order as predicted in the several prophecies of Daniel concerning the establishment of the renewed Roman Empire or the ten toes of Neubuchadzerr’s vision.

    Oh yes then the prophecy of Psalm 2:8 will be especially ripe for fulfillment….

    Ask of Me, and I shall give Thee the heathen for Thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the Earth for Thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. 10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the Earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

    I cant wait for the fun to start! There is nothing for which I long more !


  8. If you read the prophecy of Joel chapter 1, you see a description of the perils which face Israel today, because of their disobedience to God and rejection of their Messiah –King as Lord!

    Though Israel have returned to their land as promised in Ezekiel, they have returned in unbelief!

    Joel chapter 1, when interpreted by the law of double mention, predicts the difficulties that Israel will soon face because of its perilous location in the face of its militant enemies that even now currently surround it.

    Joel chapter 1 makes it very clear that there are very hard times up ahead for Israel. There is no doubt about that. Bible illiterates who do not know the end of the story will scoff and rejoice, and have a field day!

    Because Israel will continue in their disobedience to God- NOT OBAMA OR THE USA OR THE UN, they are warned in Joel 2:12 thus Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning: 13. And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.

    The rest of Joel chapter 1 indicates what God would do for his chosen people Israel, if they would turn to him today. But alas they will not. Israel are today rejecting the following promises in the face of the enemy up against them.

    Verses 14-18 indicate that if Israel would repent that “. Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people…………….. and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen: But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things (verse 19-20).

    God promises in verse 21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things. But instead today Israel is depending on its own strength , on their wits and their ability to wage war and retaliate to the evil folk that surround them and wish to see them destroyed from off the face of the earth.

    The promises in verses 28 – the end of the chapter will indeed come to pass in the millennial age that follow the Battle of Armageddon after the intervention of Christ himself!

    28. And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29. And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
    30. And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
    31. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.
    32. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

    Stay tuned for the end of the story according to Joel


  9. Hi Anonymous Sept 19, 2009 at 5:23am

    I have no agenda, I made the comment that:
    …”Hamas had fired rockets into Southern Israel in retaliation causing panic in the civilian population”…

    I also added: …”and both Hamas and the Israeli committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity”…

    It is a question of “proportionality” the UN inquiry laid the major blame on Israel and that was reflected in my submission and the way it was written.

    I have no agenda, the UN inquiry is a public document and it is on “that” my submission was based. There are of course other issues in the Middle East, but my focus was on the UN inquiry.


  10. In Joel Chapter 3 Verse 2b- 7 , the prophet predicts that the following atrocities will soon be committed against Israel…….for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
    3. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.
    4. Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; 5. Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things: 6. The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.
    7. Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head

    So one can imagine how the enemies of Israel all around the world will then be gloating and shouting with glee!

    But that will not be the end of the story! Oh NO!

    Joel Chapter 3 Verse 1-2 teaches … For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

    These naughty boys will be now receive a whipping as delared in verse 8 et secq!

    And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the LORD hath spoken it.
    9. Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: 10. Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
    11. Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
    12. Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
    13. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
    14. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
    15. The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
    16. The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
    17. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

    Verses 18- 21 gives the end of the story. As they say “ Israel will live in THE LAND THAT GOD PROMISED THEM WAY BACK IN GENESIS HAPPILY EVER AFTER!
    18. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim.
    19. Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.
    20. But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.
    21. For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.

    Now if you believe the Bible, as many around the World do, THIS IS TRUTH!

    If you DON’T believe the Bible, as many around the World choose to do, well this is all just good poetry and a myth or a fable.

    But guess what friends? WE WILL SOON KNOW FOR SURE!

    According to Jude 14-15, the believers, who now must accept the scoffing of the unbelieving masses, will return with the Lord Jesus at Armageddon. Though they will not themselves participate in the battle, theywill witness first hand and up close the whipping the scoffing biased evil nations will get at that time.

    Bible believers will certainly be vindicated then. I cant wait to see it all happen!

  11. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    When ever there is a discussion relating to Israel there is always a great deal of religious gobbledygook spouted out as is happening now.

    It does not move me one inch. The Zionists in Israel are the most brutal, wicked, and devilish people on the face of the earth.

    The events of the last fifty years or so bear testimony to that fact.

    These people are just plain evil.


  12. Lets now look at how God has responded to those who did not respect his promise concerning cursing Israel as given first in Genesis 12:3 by looking at how he dealt with Edom as described in the one chapter book of Obadiah- which most of you have probably never read or understood.

    Edom is both another name for Jacob’s brother Esau, as well as the fortress where his descendants live in their seemingly inpenetratable fortressat Petra.

    Verses 10 -14 sets out their crime against Israel
    10. For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
    11. In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
    12. But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
    13. Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity; 14. Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.

    Essentially, instead of helping Israel to whom they were related by blood they facilitated and joined in the Babylonian captivity. They also rejoiced to see the fall of Judah and Jerusalem. In addition they participated in the looting and rape of Jerusalem, and even prevented the escape of persons seeking to escape the captors and conquerors.

    Verses 1- 8 sets out the punishment of Edom for her atrocities against Israel.
    Vs 1 God decided to rise up against Edom in battle- and history indicated that he did!
    Vs 2 God has greatly despised them and made them small among the nations- so small in fact that we don’t even hear of them any more!
    Vs 3-4 indicates that their pride and arrogance with respect to their impregnable fortress city at Petra was misplaced. Like the “unsinkable” Titanic, they were sunk!
    Vs 5-6 indicates that when Edom was captured they were totally raped and plundered. Their conquerors carried out a complete and comprehensive search and took everything away. They didn’t even leave a few grapes back!
    According to verse 7 their confederates or partners in the nations with whom they had agreements deceived them, without any thought for their double cross.

    God promises in verses 8-9 to eradicate both the leadership and the people of Edom by slaughter; and the historical record indicates that he did!

    God will in like manner deal with the nations at the glorious appearing of His Son at the “day of the Lord”.

    When ever there is a discussion relating to Israel it is meet and right that there be always relevant discussion based on what the Bible teaches on the matter.

    It matters not whether the people in Israel are evil or not, or whether they are brutal, wicked, and devilish. THE ISSUE IS WHAT DOES GOD THINK! WHAT HAS GOD SAID IN HIS WORD!

    You can call it religious gobbledygook or what ever you chose to. But the Word of God is the Word of God. Believe it or not. Take it or leave it.

    The view point of believing Christians must be considered and presented just as much as yours.

    The Zionists in Israel are no more brutal, wicked, or devilish people than anyone else- especially the Americans; who routinely intervene in the affairs of other countries BOTH covertly and overtly!

    Whether you like it or not, these expositions on what the Word of God teaches about Israel and the end times WILL CONTINUE!


  13. Obadiah in verse 15 speaks of the day of the LORD, one of the favorite topics of the prophets. The day of the Lord refers to the time when God will take back the complete rule over the earth that mankind gave up in Eden when our fore parents sinned.

    It indicates that the enemies of Israel (as was the case with Edom) will be rewarded for their anti-Semitism. Verse 16 indicates that God will eradicate the enemies of Israel.

    Verses 17 & 21 indicate that salvation will come to Israel on Mount Zion, where other prophetic Scriptures predict that Jesus will descend on his return. Israel will be delivered and will occupy the land promised to it in real peace, and as it never even did at its zenith.

    There are some hard times to come for Israel, but at Christ’s advent at Armageddon Israel will enjoy TRUE PEACE, not the pseudo peace that a puppet president is trying to orchestrate!

    God rules in the affairs of men, and he is still on the throne!

    You cant stop Israel from being what God intended it to be.

    We in Barbados can chose to follow the puppet president and become anti –Semitic too—— and suffer the consequences.

    But at the end the truth of Jude 14-15 and the myriad of associated Scriptures are being fulfilled, despite the rantings and ravings of Biblical illiterates.


  14. Anonymous

    The Zionists are masters of deception; that is how they fight their battles. Seeing that Zoe and Geogie are in this discussion it is okay for me to use the words ‘know’ and ‘believe’ interchangeably without affecting the quality of the comment. So I KNOW that they are the ones who firing rockets on civilians and blaming it on the Hamas people.

    Georgie Porgie

    I am a Black West Indian, proud and true. There is no book, N O B O O K on this earth that will ever allow me to believe/know I am less significant than another race of man. Sir I am therefore inclined to believe/know that you are Zionist and White in which case I say God speed my man…!


  15. Regrettably many more will be killed in the name of religion. The geo-political posturings of the West will take care of the rest.


  16. Why war, here is a man of peace and love, two different audiences. Hatred and harshness are not of the Almighty, only love and creation. Those who choose to love and live to creation have themselves chosen, their path, the path of the Almighty.


  17. BAFBFP
    I am a Black Barbadian…. So you can believe what you like.

    I do not consider myself a Zionist, but a believer in the Word of God.

    And the Bible does not ANYWHERE TEACH that I am less significant than another race of man. Do not try to change the clear teaching of the Word of God

    In fact the Bible teaches of many special priviledges granted to non Jews who have received the Lord Jesus as personal Savior. The Bible also teaches in Romans that NOT ALL ISRAEL ARE ISRAEL (but that I suspect will be very high above your head to explain….. as this is indeed a very difficult concept to grasp)

    The Bible teaches that God chose Israel as his special people. The Bible further teaches that this choice was not made because of any merit that they had, since at the time of God’s choice they were not then even a people.

    BAFBFP you seem to be a lover of distorting the facts. It is well known that Hamas attacked Israel, and that they do not want peace. However, the behavior of Hamas or Israel is not important to me or my argument. My position is not who is right or wrong, or who does what. I have sought to declare only what the Bible says that God has in store for Israel in the short term (and we can see this scenario escalating) and what he has promised for them AFTER ARMAGEDDON!

    If that allows you to conclude that I am a Zionist and white, well do you think that I will worry because of your apparent lack of comprehension? I doubt it.

    You are proud of your race, but deny Israel God’s right to chose them as His special people? Do I understand His choice better than you do? No but I accept it just as ALL BAJANS ACCEPT THAT GOD MUST BE A BAJAN BECAUSE OF THE BLESSINGS HE HAS BESTOWED UPON US MORE THAN HE HAS ON OUR CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBOURS!


  18. David is correct when he asserts that “Regrettably many more will be killed in the name of religion”, because the Muslim world has a religious quest to eliminate Isreal from the face of the earth. Israel will off course resist this (even though the UN and most of the world believes that they should go away quietly and not resist.) The greatest slaughter in this religious conflict will be seen at Armageddon.

    David is also correct when he asserts that “ The geo-political posturings of the West will take care of the rest.” Bible teachers and scholars have long identified the kings of the North as Russia and Iran. Japan and China already each have the number of combatants predicted by Revelation, and are ready to take their position as the kings of the East. The kings of the South is now identified as several Muslim nations that live in a particular geographical latitudes. We are awaiting the final identification of the nations that will compose the Kings of the West. The geo-political posturings of the West will take certainly care of this identification. The US only has to get on the wrong side of China by their political posturings to usher in their imminent demise.


  19. @BAFBFP & Carson Cadogan…..
    You are so gotdamn right and no half-ass report from another zionist can change reality on the ground.

    These are the damn beast that control the Federal Reserve in the US, the same beast that has withdrawn ‘its’ bogus credit from the financial market resulting in all this turbulence. And they are allowed to do this shite and get away with it, because they are in cahoots with that Vatican who brought us bullshit Christianity, that has locked down the minds of Black People.

    These ph.cking blood-letting leeches were the ones who wrote themselves into that Bible as “God’s chosen” and Black people as the rejected of God. They roam this earth leaving a nasty stink trail of death, destruction, and greed.

    They invaded Canaan [Palestine]which was and is the land of BLACK PEOPLE and stole our history and call it their own today. They have stolen everything from US and have reversed the roles and put themselves in our place.

    These are the same beast who make a huge profit of human body parts and that’s what they are accused of doing to the Palestinians today. They are killing them and stealing their body parts.

    They steal, they prostitute, they pimp, they pillage, they murder and then they scapegoat everyone else esp. Black People.

    Just watch Barack Obama become their fall guy.

    These beasts are the criminals on this planet today and their judgment day is fast approaching!


  20. Well Professor

    “but I accept it just as ALL BAJANS ACCEPT THAT GOD MUST BE A BAJAN BECAUSE OF THE BLESSINGS HE HAS BESTOWED UPON US MORE THAN HE HAS ON OUR CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBOURS!”

    …. You have declared your hand. for all intelligent people (necessarily and sufficiently not Barbadian) KNOW that God is neither Barbadian nor… wait for it … wait for it… JEW..!

    Who knows the exact truth in all of this, so I am in a healthier position if I, as I have always done, side with Hopi..!


  21. BAFBFP
    I am sure that you know that I dont really believe that God is a Bajan as many Bajans opine.LOL Nor do I think that he is a Jew.

    I have clearly articulated my position. I believe and accept the Bible record, regardlees to who thinks it is right or wrong.

    I do not have to be a Zionist or white nor do I have to uphold or defend any acts committed by the Jew. Nor do I have to hate them. I have had very little interaction with Jewish folk in my life.

    I have, however, had much interaction with “proud black people” of a most unsavoury nature. After living for almost 60 years, I am yet to understand what are the inherent benefits in being black or “black and proud” except for being protected from certain skin diseases by virtue of having melanin in one’s skin.

    There is nothing that I have ever recieved in life because I was black. Never once have I got an advantage or a promotion or anything because I was black.

    In contrast, I have often suffered at the hands of both white and blacks only because of the colour of my skin.

    It amazes me that everyone is entitled to have thier opinion, but I am denied the priviledge of presenting the Bible perspective with out fear of rancour and mockery and scoffing.

    I dont really understand why Jews are hated and Muslims are treated as if they are holier than thou, excepot for the fact that the Word of God predicted the same.


  22. Hopi

    Your emotional rant does not affect the truth.

    And my interpretation of the Word of God is sound exegesis, whether you believe the Bible or not.

    Neither the Bible nor true Church History supports your view that the Vatican brought us Christianity. And the concepts of Christianity has been embraced by all peoples of all nations of the world, irregardless to whether they are yellow white or blue or of hues in between. Christianity has not caused any people to be down trodden

    You write “They steal, they prostitute, they pimp, they pillage, they murder and then they scapegoat everyone else esp. Black People “ Can not this be said of the Americans or the same Africans that sold their brothers into slavery, or who enslave their people today in various parts of Africa?

    Is it not really the truth that color or race or ethnicity is at the core of human evil, and man’s inhumanity to man. Is it not really the truth that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked?

    The Jews will indeed continue to pay for their disobedience to God, but the Scriptures teach that God will rescue them at Armageddon.

    I am so sorry that you don’t plan to be there Hopi!


  23. Carson C. Cadogan, The only “gobbledygook” relating to this discussion on Israel, comes from ignorant, arrogant, spiritually blinded, historically inept FOOLS like you!

    BAFBFP, “So I KNOW that they (Israel) are the ones who firing rockets on civilians and blaming it on the Hamas people.”

    You have truly confirmed your depth of ignorance man!

    You are also likely then, to believe that the earth is flat, and the moon is made of green cheeze! What a deceived fool you are!

    Hopi, I see you are still analyzing from Hotep’s lower parts! What a stench you live in!

    UN smears Israeli self-defense as ‘war
    crimes’ Gerald M. Steinberg, Wall Street Journal.

    “The Goldstone Commission, as well as the UN Human rights Council which appointed them, ended where they began, with an assumption of Israeli war crimes in Gaza. On every significant issue, Goldstone’s group simply repeated what it chose to hear from carefully selected witnesses. When Israeli victims of Hamas rocket attacks were given a few hours to tell their tales of horror, photos show Mr. Goldstone taking a nap. The result vindicated the Israeli government’s view that the book were COOKED from the beginning. The tendentious and extremely biased report succeeded in angering Israelis from across the political spectrum. The committee condemned every Israeli respone to the 8,000 rockets fired by Hamas, but its recommendations DID NOT include any steps to end this agression (from Hamas.”

    “The Goldstone Report is a FIELD COURT-MARTIAL, and its findings were prewritten,” said Netanyahu in a private meeting. “This is prize for terror.”

    This dubious report, makes a mockery of history, failing immensely to distinguish between the aggressor, HAMAS, and the defender Israel.

    Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, said on Thursday, that the Goldstone Committee was set up to find Israel guilty of crimes that were determed in advanced, (absolutely) and the committee’s members did not let the facts confuse them.

    Lieberman also correctly charged, that, “The whole purpose of the report, from the moment the decision was made to write it, was to DESTROY Israel’s image, in service of countries where the terms ‘human rights’ and ‘combat ethics’ do NOT even appear in their dictionaries.”

    This type of propoganda, ‘Turnspeak’ has never stopped from the moment Israel became a State in May, 1948, a wicked, evil, demonic, hatred for Jews and their righful state of Israel, a devilish twisting, inverting, and vicious, maligning of the hard FACTS, expressly for the purpose of making Israel look like the aggressor, and not the victim they have been, for the last sixty years.

    However, NO ONE, can stop Israel from existing in her God given home land; yes, it will appear soon that she will be overcome by her enemies, BUT, it will NOT happen, as Almighty God, is on her side, no matter how many from the pit of Hell LIES are told again them.

  24. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    Zoe

    A name of Greek origin meaning “Life”, but how ironic that your “people” rain down nothing but DEATH and distruction on those around them.

    Do you know that ninety percent of all the slave ships which transported our unfortunate ancestors from Africa to the so-called new world were owned and operated Jews?

    Anything for a jew to make a dollar or should I say a shekel?

  25. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    ZOE

    Wow, Israeli propaganda at its best. It will not move me.

    Zionists are vicious “people”.


  26. Do you know that one of Barbados’ greatest acclaimed sons as a neurosurgeon in Canada for decades is a Jew?

    Has he helped with lives in Canada?

    I speak of none other than Paul Steinbock. One of the greatest students to grace the halls of Harrison College and the University of the Wset Indies Medical School.


  27. Oh for a moment I thought you were referring to Mark Crawford whose dad recently had a round-about named after him. Ha. ‘Cause Mark ain’ nah Bajan neither, even tho he went to Crumpton Street Hi School too.Dese people benefit from free education in Babados and tek dey skills and save other people in the world. Stupse…! LOL GP.

  28. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    ZOE

    “as Almighty God, is on her side”

    I doubt that very much.
    Don’t forget that Jesus, the son of Almighty God, was killed at the behest of the Jews.

    Remember that the Romans said that they found no fault in this man? But the Jews asked for Whom? Barabbas, a criminal!


  29. @Georgie P…………..Are you aware that the “TRUTH” was before any reliegion that was forced upon us by the foreign invaders?

    And I don’t plan to be anywhere near ‘god’s chosen and their god.’

    Who was is that brought destruction to this planet by claiming that they are “pure and white?” Wasn’t it the same beings that brought you the God that you now worship?

    And no, the heart is not deceitful and desperately wicked. Its that seat of the intellect in which so many egotistic ‘men’ gloat that is deceitful and desperately wicked.

    GP, you and I are sailing in two different directions. You seem to find glory in your academic and religious accolades conferred upon you by whitey and you seems to have grounded your ‘manhood’ in such trappings at the expense of SELF-KNOWLEDGE. So if that is your comfort zone why should this mere mortal try to rout you.

    I KNOW that my ankhcestors preceeded the ‘jew’ and all other devilish philiesophies that they are wreaking havoc on this planet with today. I know that is hard for you and many others like yourself to innerstand, because it did not come from whitey’s establishments.

    So to each his own!


  30. In Haggai Chapter 2 we read in verse 6 “ For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 7. And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.”

    In verse 9 he says “ The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.”
    Here the prophet is given a few promises with respect to the temple to be rebuilt in the eschaton.

    In verse 20-23 we read “ 0. And again the word of the LORD came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying,. Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth; And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother. In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts.”

    In that last passage we see that Zerubbabel is a type of the Antitype Jesus who will be God’s authority or signet when the heavens are shaken and when Christ will overthrow and destroy the strength of the same kingdoms or rulers, who today seek to harass God’s chosen people. Revelation describes how Christ will indeed overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them along with their riders. This is predicted and will come to pass, just as the many prophecies that have already been fulfilled.(the exact ones that Hopi says the Jews wrote in God’s book. LOL)

    Friends its going to be a great day for believers! And not a nice day for scoffers and mockers.

    You can mock me as much as you like and call my exegesis of the Word gobbldegook etc, but the Word of the Lord will prevail.

    Again my interest and concern is with what the Bible says, not who the Jews are or what they do. Because in the final analysis ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. ALL. And that includes the Jews and the Bajan scoffers and mockers…of ALL ETHNICITIES AND RACES AND HUES!.
    And this is sound doctrine that CANOT BE REFUTED!
    Next I will refer to the end time Scriptures from Malachi and Habbakuk.


  31. BAFBFP
    Re Dese people benefit from free education in Babados and tek dey skills and save other people in the world. Stupse…! LOL GP.

    There are more BLACK Bajans who have done the same. There ae some off course who were run out of Bim because of envy or other reasons. Like Atherley and Talma to name two glearing examples.

    I myself also had to leave because of mal treatment.
    tHere are


  32. Carson C. Cadogan
    Your ignorance of and inability to understand the Word has the dimensions of an abyss.

    Pilate found no fault in Jesus because he was as the Bible teaches WITHOUT SIN!
    The irony of the Crucifixion is that BOTH THE JEWS AND THE GENTILES were complicit in Jesus death. Pilate took the easy way out because of the political situation that he found himself in at the time.
    Jesus the TRUE SON OF THE FATHER BECAME THE SUBSITUTE FOR ALL MEN as well as the substitute for Bar – abbas which means ‘ Son of the Father”.
    Jesus was killed to pay the penalty for the sins of all men cf 2 Corinthians 5:21 & I John 2:2 inter alia.

    It is stupid to blame the Jews alone for the death of Christ because Jesus himself taught that he came to give himself as a RANSOM for mankind.


  33. What another BIG LIE. The whole story of Jesus Christ is another concoction of these “jews.” He never was!

  34. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    Georgie Porgie

    “Your ignorance of and inability to understand the Word has the dimensions of an abyss.”

    Thanks for that. It prevents me from being brain-washed by the likes of you!


  35. Hopi

    I don’t believe in religion. Religion is a way by with which men seek to appease what ever god they have….who ever that god might be.

    You off course have the right to choose NOT to be anywhere near ‘god’s chosen and their god.’

    The only one whom I know to be pure is God. And you can not deny that no one in particular of any ethnicity or hue brought destruction to earth. I am sure that you know well the history of men like Amin, Taylor, Mugane et aliter You know also of the atrocities being perpretrated by blacks in Afica and other places today.

    I was brought to God by the wooing and conviction of his Spirit and the teaching and reading of the Word of God.

    You may opine that “ it is that seat of the intellect in which so many egotistic ‘men’ gloat that is deceitful and desperately wicked, “ but the Bible teaches in Jeremiah 17:9 that “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked.” I stand by that!

    I do not glory in anything save the cross, because I really have nothing to glory about. I have had no academic and religious accolades conferred upon me by anyone. I am a mere mortal like you. I have studied the Word of God, and you have attained the “trappings” of your “SELF-KNOWLEDGE” elsewhere, and have your “comfort zone” in what you believe.

    But whereas you would seek to decide that the source of my understanding is from whitey and give me not the respect to think that I can decide for my self, just as I expect you did when you learned what ever you know.

    I conclude by reaffirming that I don’t care two hoots if your ancestors preceeded the ‘jew’ and all other devilish philosophies that they are wreaking havoc on this planet with today.” My interest is BIBLIO SOLO! I am interested in what the Bible says about what will happen to the Jew in the immediate short term and after Armageddon. And this is simply because the only predictions that remain to be fulfilled in the Scriptures relates to these prophecies.

    It is to me very interesting to see how the playing out of these predictions are accommodated by the warp and woof of contemporary happenings.


  36. Carson C. Cadogan

    I never seek to brain-wash anyone.

    When I teach the Word Of God, I just teach it in the knowledge that Isaiah 55:11 asserts that ” So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”

    When the Word of God is taught, some believe, some mock and scoff the message and the messenger, but God accomplishes what he wants when the seed is sown.

    You see “I know whom I have believed , and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.” The same “day” of which I am speaking today

  37. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    Georgie Porgie

    I like how all of you hide behind this God thing to defend the indefensible.


  38. GP……..Do you see how you are still living by the tenets and long-term ‘strategic’ planning of this same ‘jew’ who has practised to deceive mere mortals like yourself from the get-go?

    At this point and time you don’t give two hoots because this ‘jew’ hath bewitched you just like the foolish Galatians.

    You christians believe his BS to the point where you will do anything he ask of you. Right now he’s one of the biggest mass-murderers on this planet and he has your blessings. Right now this Judeo-Christian dominance has propelled this planet to the precipice.
    So after wreaking so much havoc and destruction here you are anxiously hoping for a moshiach to take up in heaven and save you from the certain retribution that will be visited upon you.

    You can all run but you can’t hide.

  39. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar

    It is stupid to blame the Jews alone for the death of Christ because Jesus himself taught that he came to give himself as a RANSOM for mankind.


  40. Yardbroom man you knew that you were goin’ pit these two sides of the BU family against each other.. Yardbroom! Soon Scout and Micro Mock gun jump in to support GP and Zoe, the Bushman gun be on de fence and two anti-Christ specialist from BFP gun’ fin’ out ’bout de discussion and jump in too. It will be game on for another two weeks…

    Yardie What have you done?

    My God


  41. Carson C. Cadogan, “It is stupid to blame the Jews alone for the death of Christ because Jesus Himself taught that He came to give Himself as a RANSOM for mankind.”

    It is amazing that you could actually write such profound TRUTH, entirely Biblical, in the face of all the other nonsense you have been posting!


  42. Georgie Porgie
    Re I like how all of you hide behind this God thing to defend the indefensible.

    I proudly stand on the Word of God and its tenets. I don’t have to defend anything. God will vindicate himself in due season.

    When Jesus was on earth he predicted that he would die and be raised on the third day. That he did vindicated His Person and His message and that he was indeed sent by God as he is recorded to repeatedly say throughout the Book of John.

    The key verse in Mark’s Gospel is Mark 10:45

    For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    1 Timothy 2:5-6 teaches ..For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

    The main message of the Bible points to the death of Christ. This is seen in type and figure throughout the OT. This is pointed out clearly in Hebrews 1:1-2


  43. I wish we could have an objective discussion on some subjects without the brain washed bible thumpers coming and hogging the board with their epistles. cheupse.


  44. Hopi, Your aquired ‘Self-knowledge’ is just that, SELF-EGOTISTIC-PRIDE-FILLED ‘Crap, baloney, bilge, bull, bunk, drival, hogwash, rot, twaddle’ based on absolutely NO critical, objective, coherent facts!

    ‘To say of what is, that it IS, or, of what IS NOT that it IS NOT, is TRUE.’
    Aristotle, Metaphysics 1077b 26.

    Hope you got the fire extinguisher next to ya, as ya might need it, with all dem flames of fire that you spew out in utter hatred against FACTS and TRUTH!


  45. Hopi

    You are misquoting Scripture like a fool. The Galatians were not at all foolish, because they embraced the gospel. Paul said that they were acting foolishly and bewitched because they had been temporarily led astray by the Judaisers who sought to teach that they as Gentiles needed to become “Jews” to be saved. This was off course contrary to the clear teaching of the gospel. Salvation has always been by grace through faith, as we can see from as early as the account of Noah, who is said to have found grace in the sight of the Lord.

    Romans 4 teaches that Abraham believed God and his belief was counted or put on his account as righteousness.

    Hopi your thinking seems to be warped by the devil whom Jesus called in John 8:44, a murderer and liar from the beginning.

    Why do you worry about me and if I am deceived. I am clear about the fact that I am a mortal, and I am equally assured that as John teaches in 5:24 that I have passed from death unto life.


  46. Pat, Go back to Pre-School, were you belong, you don’t even know what the word ‘objective’ means!


  47. Pat

    I wish we could have an objective discussion on some subjects without the brain washed bible thumpers coming and hogging the board with their epistles. cheupse.

    =====================
    Are you saying that this discussion is not objective because a few Bible believers put foward thier beliefs? How objective are you? For weeks we saw ROK worship. For weeks we see political discussions whether objective or subjective. Whether true or false. Whether nonsens or sense. Whether wise or otherwise.

    If we didnt like it we did not comment. For weeks there has been a sensless BU vs BFP war. For weeks there has been much goo about race, and black and white.

    There are some who hate the Jews and they have SUBJECTIVELY said so. There are others who just simply believe the Bible about what the Lord of Hosts said about blessing or cursing the Jews. Are you telling me that to give an opinion on such a subject is not objective?

    You ought to know better Pat. You ought to know that it is right and fair that ALL people of EVERY PERSUASION should have the right to put forth their view and defend it. That ought to include Bible believers, Bible thumpers etc for the discussion to be truly OBJECTIVE! Ah lie?


  48. Whether you all like it or not Malachi 1:11 declares that “For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts. “
    This will happen after the battle of Armageddon and is in consonance with the teaching of Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth; 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
    You all can read or scroll on by, but there will be some that will read and understand and find solace for their souls..

    In Malachi 2 :18 the prophet declares “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”

    In other words the Messiah whom the Jews will be fervently seeking in the time of their distress in the tribulation period will show up suddenly as the messenger or the one who will execute the covenant and as the Captain of the Lord’s armies. It is something that believers look forward to with eager anticipation and IT IS ON THE HORIZON FRIENDS and mockers and scoffers.

    It is OBJECTIVE TO DECALARE THAT THE BIBLE PREDICTS A PERIOD OF GLOOM FOR THE JEWS AT THE BEGIINING OF THE TRIBULATION, and we see that period approaching every day.

    BUT THE BIBLE ALSO TEACHES THAT THE SEVEN YEAR PERIOD OF THE TRIBULATION WILL BE FOLLOWED BY ARMAGEDDON AND PEACE FOR THE JEWS.

    I will continue to bring forth what the Word of God teaches about the Jews and the end time. You guys can bring your stuff. This will not be a one sided affair as Carlos thought it would be, when he started spewin ant semetic thoughts.


  49. @Zoe………..To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is FALSE.
    Don’t you that this Aristotle fraud learned at the feet of the MASTERS IN KMT?

    @GP………..You have just proven my point.


  50. Let me prove your point some more Hopi,

    In Malachi Chapter 3 the question is asked in verse 2-4 “But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap: 3. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.

    This Scripture is dealing with the judgement of the LOrd on the Jews whom you guys hate. God will judge his own people during the day of the Lord in the Tribulation period.

    He will weed out the dross in Israel, and a purified nation will enter the millennium.

    In verse 5-6 God says that he will come near to his people in judgment; and that it is only because of his mercy that he has not consumed them already, because v 7 they had repeatedly disobeyed his ordinances, and failed to keep them. For that verse 9 they are cursed with a curse: even this whole nation.
    The time for this judgement is imminent.

    But when they acknowledge God after the glorious appearing of Christ vs 12 all nations shall call them blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.

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