A man and a woman fight and they lookin’ to lock up the man.

BAF, I think it MOST unlikely that Rihanna STARTED the fight, don’t you?!!

http://www.tmz.com/

Law enforcement sources have now gotten specific with us… police took pictures of Rihanna’s injuries and they are “horrific.”

As we reported, the photos show major contusions on both sides of the singer’s face — there is serious swelling and bruising. Her lip is split and her nose bloody. We have now confirmed there are bite marks on one of her arms and on several fingers.

And we now know this… Rihanna claims Brown struck her with his fists and that’s what did the damage. There was no object used in the alleged attack.

Rihanna refused treatment at the scene, but before she left cops took photos. We’re told the photos alone are “devastating proof of abuse.”

When last year some of us were talking about that good girl gone bad image and our fear that she would end up down the road of a britney spears or the like,others jumped on us.

Now sadly we see where this misguided ‘love for bad boys’ has taken her.

Somehow I think she is going to go right back with him.

@The Scout

This is what BU was afraid of when we blogged our concerns last year. It must be tough for Rihanna travelling the world with relative strangers. Maybe Rihanna can take a page from Beyonce. Her mother is a permanent fixture in her tour party we understand.

I wish her well. I hope she leaves his ass. More than likely he will not spend any time in prison but I hope she cleans him out. He is a punk. If you put a pig in a suit and put it in a living room to sit down it is still a pig.

With all due respect to everyone, this girl is not the first Bajan women to get a beating. And she certainly wont be the last. What is all the fuss about? Women get beat up in Barbados everyday.

Are we saying that only when a woman who is an entertainer gets beaten that it is news worthy?

Before you all rant and rave, I am NOT saying that beating women is right. I am saying that it happens, it has happened from time immemorial, and will continue to happen.

Do Bajan men get beaten with wet bull pistles when they beat Bajan women?

Well then lets open the debate about abuse of women in B’dos. i’m sure we will all be shocked to hear what is said. I mean lets be real not even the authorities (RBPF that is) respect women when they walk into a police station to report the abuse. Instead they are ridiculed or asked what they did to deserve it.

Anonymous,
Sometimes de said police try to ‘got’ de said complainant ta. and if she is gullible, well, anothe one bites de dust.

I have always told my sons not to strike a female but should she strike you first, well by all means , strike back thrice as hard. Some females that they have the God-given rite to hit a man and he should tek um. Oh yeah, a good ‘bitch-slap’ would work. I am not promoting violence just self-defence.

@All

The reason why the Rihanna plight would attract attention is simple, she is well known. Additionally the coverage generated by this incident in Barbados and worldwide can only help to expose physical/domestic abuse as a problem and encourage programs to address.

lol hahahaha GP, people don’t like to deal with reality until it has to do with someone who is seen as ‘popular’ we should have been addressing this matter EVAH SINCE!

Domestic abuse is taken far too lightly in Barbados. Too many men beat women . Far too mnay. Too many women mentally abuse men. Far too many. Maybe the publicity on the Rihanna issue can serve to wake us up on this issue. It is never OK to beat down a woman like that.

I hope Rihanna drops him …
She can do so much better than that little punk ass coward!

My personal opinion is that NO MAN should hit a woman.

Yet, I think GP and my point is woman beating was around for ages! We NEED to make it an issue not just for famous persons BUT for all individuals!

@JC

Surely you accept that prominent people will always bring attention to issues less prominent people can. It is why these people become spokes people for causes e.g Lance Armstrong for cancer.

Recnetly I was also taken up with the murder case in the Nation last week where the defenedent described a pattern of verbal/mental abuse by his wife (the victim) who he kiled after she threatened to throw hot oil on him.

These stories including the Rihanna/ Chris story clearly show that there are alot of broken down people out there that need psychological help…

@ me
What you report is much more common than you think. But not all men are able to walk away, or get to escape.

I will never forget the young man I saw, who was on so much medication for this that and the other because of the grinding he was getting from his wife.

@ Me

I am not biased at all.
I dont care if men are usually physically stronger than women, or not.

Women have no right to strike men just as men ought not to strike women. What is fair for the goose ought to be fair for the gander.

Your bias on the other hand is clearly revealed by your statement that

And yes as a Bajan I will proudly state that a two bit dumb ass ney-ney little boy pop idol had no right beating up on our RiRi even if she may have sassed him Bajan style…!

So your RiRi is so special and the chap is merely “a two bit dumb ass ney-ney little boy pop idol ?’

Talk about bias?

Bonny Peppa
Just tell any of your sons, before hitting a woman in so-called “self-defence” ask her first if she’s The Scout’s daughter.

G P
It seems like some woman put some serious licks in you, that’s why you are so bias. I was once in a situation with a niece of mine,where I arrived at her school to collect her. I saw a group of children gathered and realised that my niece was in some altercation with a young man, both 5th formers. Even though, he saw me coming, he grapped her by her uniform collar, I rushed to the scene, I think I lost it but I grabbed that youngster and lifted him off the ground and warned him NEVER try that again. His friends were laughing, so he had to retaliate, when I put him down, he pull a knife on me, I kicked that knife out of his hand so hard and put to cuffs in his backside that he fell. The security guard saw what happened and held the youngster. I was told his Dad comes for him, so I waited until he came and we spoke. His father told him to apologise to me and then cut his backside in front of those still at school. I too apologised to him and his Dad for losing it even though his father said if the situation was revesred he might have done worse than me. You can do me anything and I would decide if it worth retaliating but when you interfere with my family, especially the females, I’m not sure what the outcome will be but it wouldn’t be nice

LOL I am admitting my bias up front. I am a huge fan of Rihanna. But seriously us men need to recognise that we are stronger physically and some of us need to grow stronger mentally also.

Like I said before I agree that some women are abusive but my experience here in Barbados is that far more men have been brutalisng women than the other way around! AND more importantly bajan men beating women has been accepted as par for the course; as something that is whispered and laughed about. ” She deserved getting she mout lik in …” etc

The exception does not the rule make!

G P
I thought you were a decent man. now I must look at you in a different way. You’re coming over as a jealous woman hater. Pull yourself together. This is not just about Rihanna, this is about WOMEN including your mother, sister/s and ALL other women. Let us use what happen to Rihanna as a starting point to put an end to ALL female abuse. The percentage of woman to man abuse is soooo small that if we stop the man to woman abuse, they would both respect each other.In my sixty odd years on this earth, the thought has never crossed my mind and if it does now I should be taken to the mental hostipal for treatment.

Scout,
Suppose that young man’s father was as irrational as you? You see how easily we as adults get ‘hauled’ into these children little squabbles? I don’t think that I would’ve handled it like his papa did. I would put some licks on you first. And as for apologizing, did she apologise too? I doubt. I don’t know we always assume that the female is right when something like this happens. Women could be real vicious too. I myself included.
Whether she is your daughter that my son is dating or not, my rule is the same; ‘hit and ye shall be hitten back, thrice as hard’.
Enuff said on dis matter.

@ Scout
You make me laugh. I am no longer a decent man in your estimation because I seek to bring a balance to what I saw as a one sided debate against a hot headed immature 19 year old boy hitting his girlfriend? So be it. Your opinion will not rob be of my eternal salvation. Nor can you give me a job in this world.

On the other hand, you seem to think that you, as a supposedly mature adult, were a hero of some kind,when you manhandled an equally hot headed immature male for daring to hold your niece by her school uniform? Here you were, a big man unfairing a little boy! Suppose his father had got you charged for assault and battery? Maybe you should have been taken to the mental hospital for treatment then. What if you had killed the lad or caused him serious bodily harm in your righteous rage and indignation?

If you read my posts, which were written in good and clear English, and are as logically sound as the clarion call of a bell, you will see that whereas I am not a worshipper of your RiRi, that I do respect woman hood, and advocate that men ought to walk away from disputes and relationships that drive them to anger to the degree that they think they must resort to violence as a response.

No where have I said anything to imply that I am a woman hater, or jealous. But at the same time, I can not see how the emotional ranting and raving that I have read on the blogs about this incident will put an end to ALL female abuse. Nor will your ad hominem attacks change my opinion.

I don’t care how relatively small the percentage of woman to man abuse is. It is also wrong! And to say that if we stop man to woman abuse that this will result in greater respect between the sexes is of course a non sequitur. Surely the abuse results because of a lack of understanding or a lack of respect between the persons involved.

Men should not beat up women; neither should women beat up men. Men who can not tolerate ill treatment meted out to them by women, should walk away.

Devils Advocate

You asked
What does the woman ‘drive the man’ in, her car? He drives himself to that point . We are all responsible for our own anger.

OK As you well know some women PROVOKE men to anger; and vice versa.

You asked
“By the same token, he has every right to go seek another woman who might be more respectful…” Respectful of what? Do women owe men respect? Last time I checked, Respect must be earned.

I think we ought to respect each other. OK? I also believe that if the woman in a relationship thinks that she is not getting the respect that she thinks she has earned or deserves that she ALSO has every right to go seek another man who might be more respectful

You wrote
If a man is in a relationship with a woman she usually becomes ‘a control freak’ if his actions make her insecure. Men speak of insecurity in women as if it is a disease with no cure. The cure for insecurity in women is to be respectful to the woman you are with.

I hope that you can see or know that there are both male and female control freaks, and that it need not be due to insecurity. Some folk just seem to think that they must be in control!

You wrote

Women are not interchangeable objects. There has been a case in the law courts recently where a woman’s infidelity was entered as evidence of ‘provocation’ in a manslaughter case

Nor are men interchangeable objects. I have also read of cases involving men’s infidelity being the ‘provocation’ for their manslaughter/murder by their wives. One is as common as the other…….even if not in Bim.

Neither men or women who are ‘provoked’ daily by the disrespect of their partners, are justified to react with violence.

Scout

Seriously man, there is no excuse for the behavior you described. The little giddy headed youngster only grabbed the girl, but you a responsible adult man handled the lad. No worse than a man beating a woman.

Could this story about the RiRi fight be true? Again I am not saying that the lad should have put some blows in RiRi. I am wondering what the men that talking would have done in the same circumstance when they were 19.

Here goes This is copied from BFP

• February 10, 2009. A friend of Chris Brown reached out to MediaTakeOut.com, offering us this explanation of what happened on Saturday night:
[Rihanna is] outrageously jealous and insecure. So [Chris] would get into arguments and fights with her. He never hit her once but she’d [allegedly] smack him, bite him and scratch him and once he even got hit in the balls kinda’ hard. So [she] got into the habit of hitting him because to her it was fine since he never hit her back.
[On Saturday night, Chris] finally told her to shut the f*ck up and it’s over. So she socked the shit out of him while he was driving and kept on hitting him until he crashed into a parked car.
[Chris] then got out of the car and tried to pull her out and got hit in the face some more numerous times. Scratched up and everything.
Simply because he was done with all of the drama. Anyway when she smacked him this last time he smacked her back. So he [left Rihanna there alone].
Hurt from banging her face on the windshield/dashboard from the car accident [somebody] then called the cops and [Rihanna] told them that [Chris] whipped her ass.
[Later the next day, Chris] wanted to go get his things from her apt to go to a hotel and saw a million cop cars there.
So he left and when he sent us to retrieve his stuff, this girl didn’t want to let us get his 6 bags of stuff. She said tell him to come get it himself … Tell him to answer his phone and that I’m sorry we can work this out. To which I said, hell no my friend isn’t coming anywhere near here. It’s too late for all of that. He just wants his luggage and you guys need never to see each other anymore….
Sh*t happens was definitely in effect and it’s crazy how everyone can jump on a woman’s side and not know what happened. Hind sight is 20/20 and I told [him that] he should’ve gotten out of the car and called the cops on her a*s when it was just him with scratches and shit.
This seems like a very interesting story. Of course we have absolutely no way to know whether it’s true or just damage control.
It does get a little tricky however. You’ll recall that initially both Rihanna and Chris’ people were claiming that Rihanna was injured in a “traffic accident.” Also, according to TMZ, their Lamborghini was towed from the scene of the alleged assault in Hancock Park to a nearby police impound lot. Could the car have been damaged???
Developing….