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Constitutional Reform Commission (CRC)
Constitutional Reform Commissions delivering the final report to a small audience at the Frank Collymore Hall

It was a long-anticipated wait and the thought that Barbados’ move to a Republican status would have been the foremost on the Commissioners’ mind, with them delivering meaningful changes to governance that align with a republic.  With expectancy ripe, Barbadians anticipated changes to the conduct of business in the highest offices in the land.  In reality, after more than 15 months of consulting the Commissioners appear to have updated the Westminster Parliamentary System in their constitutional reform report as well as created a new institution named the Constitutional Offices Commission providing jobs for those who will sit at its helm.  

One wondered if the Terms of Reference was vague. However, on review of the Letter of Transmittal it stated that the Commission had fulfilled its mandate.  The first item of the Terms of Reference is shown below:

  • Examine, consider and inquire into the Constitution of Barbados and all related laws and matters with a view to the development and enactment of a new Constitution of Barbados.

In essence, the scope of the commission was quite broad.  However, when Ronnie Yearwood criticized the Report in an article in Barbados Today on November 23, 2024, stating that there was no meaningful change, Chairman of the Constitutional Reform Commission (CRC) dismissed the “criticisms stating that the report reflects public submission and aligns with Barbados’ Parliamentary System.”  Clearly Mr. Blackman misunderstood the assignment because the Terms of Reference infers a move away from the old Westminster Parliamentary system which is a vestibule of colonialism that the Republican system is replacing.  In addition, why else would the review have been commissioned at this time if not for a Republican Constitution? 

 It has left one to think that the island is a Republic in name only, and that the change to a republic was birthed through political expediency and not for meaningful change in the lives of the people of Barbados. 

In summation, since the CRC failed the most important part of the assignment which was on Governance and Institutions, the recommendations for all other sections of the report pales into insignificance.  

Some Thoughts for a Republican Constitution 

Most persons alive today have lived in the era of conceptualizing or birthing or, lived under the impact of the Westminster Constitution of Barbados. Almost six decades later, they have known and experienced the short comings and challenges of a document that was created without the input of the people or tailored to suit the former slave colony.  The present constitution has been a breeding ground for political corruption and dependence of the masses on politicians and political parties, in addition it has represented the perpetration of systematic inequalities.

The new constitution of Barbados must be fit for purpose, tailor made, unique, addressing the political, economic and social governance needs of all Barbadians. 

1.The Constitution

For the Barbadian context, there should be 4 arms of the Constitution.  These are:

 1. The People

2. The Executive/ Legislative

3. The judiciary

4. Local Government

2.The Sovereignty of the People

The draft preamble does not state who controls power in the Republic. In its opening it should state clearly that power is vested in the people and they delegate this power by a democratic process and can change this delegation by the power of recall. The draft preamble uses philanthropic action words and has no political, economic or constitutional actions for the people to undertake and without this, a heading of “we the sovereign people of Barbados” is meaningless. For example, we the sovereign people of Barbados must have the right to peaceful protest.

3. The Establishment of Local Government

For the Barbadian context, Local Government should not be an act of Parliament but the 4th arm of the Constitution.  This would provide the people with direct representation and access to Parliament.  Within the Commission’s Report, there is no structure by which the people can express their sovereignty. This will be a way for the people to have their voices heard in Parliament and not only the grandiose babbling of politicians.  It would create a way for propositions for new laws to reach Parliament.  The law would finally be able to embrace the needs and wants of what really matter to the people.  It is a means of quantifiable public participation in the political process.  In essence, local government can work side by side with state elected government.

4. Decolonizing Political Structures

Term Limits -Term limits must be a requirement for Prime Ministers.  They will know that their time is finite in that position and will not seek to hold on to power.

Checks and Balances – There must be checks and balances on the Executive.  The people must control how power is acquired and how public funds are spent.

Elections – There must be a fixed election date. The Diaspora must have the right to vote where they reside, whether they choose to exercise it or not.

Proportional representation – There must be proportional representation in Parliament by political parties based on the number of votes they obtain at election time. This should also be a feature of the Senate.  Hereby every party that gets a percentage of the votes are both represented in both houses.

Elections of judges – The people must be given to opportunity to decide who dispenses justice over them and their children.

Election Manifestos

The Constitution must set out specific action to be taken if Election promises are not kept. Even if this means a vote of no confidence and or the power of recall or impeachment.  This action should be taken through local government.

Decolonizing Economic Structures

Debt

Caribbean Democracies are insolvent. One of the biggest failures of the present Administration centers around Debt or indebtedness.  The specific purpose for which the country can seek to obtain foreign debt should be contained in the Constitution, inevitably, foreign debt should only be for development purposes. It must be illegal to rack up debt without any means of repayment, and from which the country may never recover.

Revenue and Development

Revenue and spending change with each administration and so do development plans.  The Constitution must guide on what the portion of the taxpayers’ money should be spent on development of the island.   

Removal of the Auditor General’s Office from Under Government. It is an exercise in futility to ask the government to investigate itself.  Placing the Auditor General’s Office in an autonomous position in the 5th arm of the Constitution will place it in a better position not only to investigate financial crime but also to bring charges.

Other

  1. Land Court.  It is also time for a Land court to be set up.  The problem of land disputes goes back several generations and no one wants to touch them.  Perhaps they should be forced to.
  2. Ownership of the Beaches.  The time has also come whereby the sovereignty of the people be extend to all beaches in Barbados and this be placed in the Constitution, that all beaches are public property owned by the people of Barbados.
  3. The Right to Peaceful Protest. This is self-explanatory and without approval of the police.

In summation the report of the CRC was an epic failure.  With one of the most frequently words in the draft constitution being “retained” the recommendations are for the preservation of the current Westminster Constitution.  One cannot claim to be moving forward by changing the name to a republic and yet cling to an outdated colonial structure.  A real Republican Constitution is required not sleight of hand.  The people have always been governed and never part of the process of governance. At this point in time political and economic change must include the people in the Constitution. 


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162 responses to “The EPIC FAILURE of the CRC”


  1. David
    January 12, 2025 at 5:36 am
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    At the crossroads with new Constitution

    Now that Barbados is a republic, the President is appointed by the Prime Minister presumably in consultation with the Leader of the Opposition. So far in our Independence history, we have had no issue or controversy about any such appointment. That is not to say it may not happen.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you don’t know how the President was chosen why put up this article where like you, the author does not have a clue either.

    I thought it was Heather, but I was wrong, it is an orphan document.

    Apologies Heather.

    Can anyone copy and paste the paragraph which actually tells us how e got to have a President?


  2. Where can I find the constitution of Barbados on the website ?

    https://www.gov.bb/

  3. Peter Lawrence Thompson Avatar
    Peter Lawrence Thompson

    @ Hants
    January 13, 2025 at 7:42 pm

    This is a 2003 version for the archives… there have been a dozen or more separate revisions since then.


  4. Thanks Peter.


  5. ” The President shall have such functions as are assigned to him by this
    Constitution or any other law.
    Qualification
    A person is qualified to be nominated for election as President if he is
    a citizen of Barbados by birth or descent.”

    Was there a revision to reflect the gender of the current President ?


  6. @ Hants
    ‘Him’ and ‘he’ essentially means he, her, she, (and more recently ‘it’) ..
    So no revision is needed.
    Probably covered in the interpretation section.


  7. Steupsss…
    It is pretty obvious how we got a president…
    Same way we got a new living legend.
    The Emperor decreed that it should be so, …and it was so.

    Bushie TIRED with this constitution shiite anyhow.
    Our constitution said CLEARLY that the current MoE was ILLELIGIBLE to hold that post.
    The Emperor decreed otherwise… and it came to pass…
    Other basic changes were ROUTINELY made to facilitate other decrees…

    If we live in a place where the ground rules can be so EASILY moulded to the wishes of the powers that be…. Only a BB would waste time and effort on the details of WHAT these flexible Laws say, or do not say.

    The ACTUAL problem we face, is in accepting a dictatorship EXACTLY as predicted by the late Piece o de Rock, while BBs go around pretending that the Emperor’s dress code is respectable.

    Talking bout blindness…


  8. PLT

    Amazing.

    Could find no trace of this for the past 6 years!!

    156 pages vs the 121 pages.

    This is what I looking for!!

    “Election of President
    Whenever the office of President is vacant, or if the term of office of
    the President is due to expire within not more than ninety days, the Prime Minister
    shall consult with the Leader of the Opposition with a view to their joint
    nomination of a candidate for election as President.”

    Still got a problem!!!

    What part of your version addresses the problem of no LOO?


  9. Term of office
    A person who has been declared duly elected President under section
    32 shall assume office
    if the office is vacant at the time, on the day next after the declaration;
    or
    if there is an incumbent in office, on the day next after the incumbent
    vacates office.
    Subject to this section and to section 34B, the President shall hold office
    for a term of four years beginning on the date of the President’s assumption of
    office and is eligible for re-election.
    The Prime Minister shall, at least six months before the expiry of the term
    referred to in subsection (1) after consultation with the Leader of the Opposition,
    grant the incumbent President a further term not exceeding four years as may be
    agreed between the President and the Prime Minister.
    If the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition fail to agree on the
    grant of a further term to the incumbent President then, the provisions of section
    32 shall take effect.
    Parliament may by resolution passed by both Houses, extend the term of
    office of the President as prescribed by subsection (2) for a period not exceeding
    six months in order to avoid the holding of an election to the office of President
    during a period when Parliament is dissolved; or
    at a time considered by Parliament to be too close to the beginning or
    the end of a period when Parliament is dissolved.


  10. Election of President
    Whenever the office of President is vacant, or if the term of office of
    the President is due to expire within not more than ninety days, the Prime Minister
    shall consult with the Leader of the Opposition with a view to their joint
    nomination of a candidate for election as President.
    If the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition make in writing to
    the Speaker a joint nomination of a qualified candidate for election as President,
    being a nomination to which that candidate has consented, the Speaker shall
    notify both Houses of the joint nomination and, at a joint meeting of both Houses,
    shall ask the members whether any member has an objection to the candidate
    being declared duly elected, if no member objects thereto, the Speaker shall
    declare the candidate duly elected.
    If there is an objection under subsection (2) the Speaker shall not declare
    the candidate duly elected but shall suspend the joint meeting.
    The members of each House shall, immediately following the suspension,
    resume in their respective House and the presiding officer of each House shall
    put the question referred to in subsection (2) to a vote.
    Immediately upon announcing the result of the vote in each House, the
    joint sitting shall resume and the President of the Senate and the Speaker shall
    each announce the result of the vote.
    If the candidate receives not less than two-thirds of the votes cast in each
    House, the Speaker shall then declare the candidate duly elected.

    If the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition do not within sixty
    days of a vacancy occurring in the office of President make to the Speaker a joint
    nomination in accordance with subsection (2), the Speaker shall notify both
    Houses accordingly, with a view to the holding of an election under this section
    to fill the vacancy.
    If the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition do not act in
    accordance with subsection (7) and the Speaker notifies both Houses in
    accordance with that subsection then,
    the Prime Minister,
    the Leader of the Opposition, and
    any ten members of the House of Assembly, jointly,
    may each, within the period of fourteen days after receipt by both Houses of a
    notification under that subsection, nominate one qualified candidate, being a
    person who has consented to be nominated.
    The Speaker shall, after the expiration of the period mentioned in
    subsection (8) and before the House proceeds to any other business, inform the
    House of the nominations referred to in that subsection and announce a date for
    the holding of an election under this section.
    The members of each House shall convene in their respective House for
    the purpose of an election occasioned by subsection (8) and the members of each
    House shall immediately upon the announcement of the result of the vote resume
    the joint meeting of the two Houses and the President of the Senate and the
    Speaker shall each announce the result of the vote.
    The Speaker shall cause adequate notice of such an election to be published
    in the Gazette, but the period of such notice shall not be more than twenty-one
    days following the date of such publication.
    If on the date duly fixed for an election under this section there is only one
    candidate, the Speaker shall, at a joint meeting of both Houses, if there is no
    objection from any of the members, declare that candidate duly elected without

    putting the question to a vote; but if there is an objection subsections (2), (3), (4),
    (5) and (6) shall apply.
    The method of voting in an election under this section is by secret ballot.
    Where there is a ballot under this section, the Speaker shall declare that
    candidate duly elected who receives the vote of not less than two-thirds of the
    votes cast in each House.
    Subject to this section and to section 31, the Speaker may regulate the
    procedure of the joint meeting of both Houses and, in particular, may postpone
    or adjourn the joint meeting of both Houses and take such other measures as he
    may deem necessary or expedient for
    the conduct of an election under this section; or
    dealing with any difficulties that may arise in connection with the
    conduct of such an election.
    For the purposes of this section, if the Prime Minister and the Leader of
    the Opposition each nominate the same person, the nominations shall be deemed
    to be a joint nomination.
    In this section, the expression “qualified”, in relation to a candidate for
    election as President, means one in respect of whom the provisions of sections
    29 and 30 are, or will be, satisfied in relation to the election


  11. It doesn’t look like all this rubbish can work without a LOO!!


  12. Looks like the current president’s term expires on 30 Nov, 2025, this year!!

    “Whenever the office of President is vacant, or if the term of office of the President is due to expire within not more than ninety days, the Prime Minister shall consult with the Leader of the Opposition with a view to their joint nomination of a candidate for election as President.”

    It will be fascinating to see how this one is wrangled.

    We should get elections by August and will find out if we get a group in the HOA that opposes the Government and can choose a leader.

    How many people on here knew the President will cease to be the president in November?

    What a load of shite!!

  13. William Skinner Avatar

    @ Heather
    We appreciate your idea. But, where there is no vision there cannot be change. BU could have developed into a powerful think tank that would have been a very serious force in enlightening the public. We are all guilty of missing that boat. Sometimes order and discipline must be foundations for real change. We all went the the B and D rabbit hole.
    Many moons ago, Carl Moore sought to give us some guidance but he was misunderstood. We have had some very good citizens who have openly given their opinions on BU. It is by far the most successful blog and its longevity is good evidence of its durability. @David must be complimented for his resilience . However, sometimes, we need to look past personalities and deal with progressive thinking and ideas.
    Your idea of some of us putting forward a constitution is understood. But just imagine making such contributions in a more structured way and we would have been in the forefront of dealing with this and several issues. The talent is here but hiding ones talent under a bushel has never been the best way to influence people.


  14. @William

    BU blog is a microcosm of our dog eat dog society. There is more that can be said to address your comment but let us leave that for another day. Let us use the late Jeff Cumberbatch as a single example how actors on the blog can plant ideas and engage in constructive discussion even when criticized. It started with BFP initially catering to a Caucasian person and BU has taken as far as is practicable. Let others step up!


  15. Peter Lawrence Thompson
    January 13, 2025 at 9:25 pm
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    Try this link to read the Barbados Constitution
    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/633b41e7ae6cb505e0f9b4c3/t/6358370b227cca7a13dc0398/1666725647108/Constitution+of+Barbados+-+Consolidated+2022-06-30.pdf

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now Peter

    Take it one step further., you are a bright boy, a Barbados Scholar to wit.

    Give us the clause/paragraph which allows a Leader of the Opposition to emerge and tell us if a Parliament or a President or a Judge can emerge in the absence of such a leader.

    30 -0 isn’t just a ridiculous result as you said before the CRC, it is also a nullity.


  16. It seem like any organization with three letters, beginning and ending with a C will end in failure CXC, CRC, CBC …
    Sensing this someone has suggested having and BU constitution reformed committee BU-CRC
    I know that no one will support my FU-CRC (follow-up constitution review committee) though we all know that follow-up is needed.

    I must add this discussion is beginning to make Rabbit look like a true scholar. As I have already indicated I am not up to the level of this discussion. …


  17. Grasshopper

    It does my heart good to see I have not wasted my time!!

  18. Peter L. Thompson Avatar
    Peter L. Thompson

    @John
    January 14, 2025 at 10:59 am
    “Give us the clause/paragraph which allows a Leader of the Opposition to emerge and tell us if a Parliament or a President or a Judge can emerge in the absence of such a leader.”

    Consult section 75
    “75.
    During any period in which there is a vacancy in the office of Leader
    of the Opposition by reason of the fact that no person is both qualified in
    accordance with this Constitution for, and willing to accept, appointment to that
    office, the President shall—
    [2021-22, s. 30]
    (a) act in his discretion in the exercise of any function in respect of which
    it is provided in this Constitution that the President shall act in
    accordance with the advice of the Leader of the Opposition; and
    [2021-22, s. 30]
    (b) act on the recommendation of the Prime Minister in the exercise of any
    function in respect of which it is provided in this Constitution that the
    President shall act on the recommendation of the Prime Minister after
    consultation with the Leader of the Opposition.”


  19. ???????


  20. Anytime you think he is a true scholar, remember his analysis of Two Thousand Mules, slavery, colonialism etc. etc. etc. He is far too biased to be a true scholar, though he would otherwise have that capacity. You will inevitably find that his pretzel logic will somehow manage to bring him right back to the place where he started. True scholars must be prepared to accept that their research may in fact prove them wrong. There has been no evidence of that from John Knox so far.

    I don’t believe that many of us here are incapable of participating in this discussion. In fact, I KNOW that I am. At one point in time, I would have been thrilled to do so. Sunday mornings with Jeff Cumberbatch are still missed. Tell It Like It Is Sunday morning lectures on CBC were also looked forward to a few years ago. I have been known to drive from St. Philip to wherever for the ENJOYMENT of lectures, driving home at eleven at night alone.

    This exercise would just take more time and effort than I am willing to put into it these days. Why? I don’t think it’s going to make a lick of difference, because most Barbadians are not yet at that place. They prefer distractions from reality.

    I think there is more groundwork that needs to be done to stimulate the average mind, so that the old time Bajan rumshop mentality returns to the people. Bush Tea is right that more intelligent and purposeful conversations were heard among the uneducated. I heard them in the rumshop close to my grandmother’s house. I’d lie in bed and listen. Very comforting it was at the time to hear engaged people, discussing what really mattered.

    Right now, we have American-styled sports bars, where people are more interested in arguing about Manchester United and Liverpool.

    I remember a time, several decades ago, when Barbadians were a hopeful people who believed that things could be made to get better. These days, I see a resigned people who prefer to “eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow, we die.”

    Unfortunately, I see no-one on the horizon who can inspire them to believe otherwise.

    Two Bajan rassholes is all the people are moved to contribute to most of the discussions these days. That is all that’s left of the true rumshop mentality.


  21. I will agree that Rabbit is a flawed character and is unable to use or include data that does not support his position.
    =*=
    I am reluctant to tell you that it does not and cannot get any better.
    Following this period of disenchantment, you will accept the harsh truth.
    It’s a scam, con trick, all lies with puff pieces and PR stunts to deceive you.
    I wait. patiently, to welcome you home

    Here is a five minute thing that came to my mind

    Don’t look to the horizon. Close your window and rock yourself to sleep
    And when you awake dry the tears that you needlessly weep
    Yesterday was the last of the better days that you seek
    The world that you know is now in the distant past
    Only Hell is ahead and it is coming fast

    I see you struggling and trying your best to hold on
    To a world that is damned, past and long gone
    You look for writers and poet who speak the truth
    Trying to hold on to the world of your youth
    Ignoring the raging fires that steadily that burns your world away
    Go asleep, gentle lady, then awake and embrace the new day


  22. Peter L. Thompson
    January 15, 2025 at 7:17 am
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    @John
    January 14, 2025 at 10:59 am
    “Give us the clause/paragraph which allows a Leader of the Opposition to emerge and tell us if a Parliament or a President or a Judge can emerge in the absence of such a leader.”

    Consult section 75

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Use 74 (1) and 74(2) for when the post does not exist and needs to be brought into existence.

    A non existent post CANNOT be vacant and once Parliament is dissolved, so too is the post of LOO.

    It has to be created first by the GG and the person commanding the support of the largest group in opposition.

    Then, if for some reason the person appointed to the post drops dead, it becomes vacant and 75 applies.

    Remember it this way …. 74 comes before 75!!

    It is easy.


  23. Think about like if you were writing a computer program.

    The first action is to set registers to a starting value or declare a variable and bring it into existence.

    Only then will the program work.

    30-0 cannot produce a group and a leader at the same time.

    RAT and Reverend Joe were both voted for by followers of the BLP, there is not a single supporter of the DLP or any other party represented in the monkey concoction.

    It is totally repugnant and offends good sense.


  24. I’ve been through all this already here!!

    Logically and chronologically, 74 comes before 75.

    …. and 74(1) and 74 (2) come first.

    You don’t need to be a scholar to understand that 74 comes before 75!!

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2022/02/20/sound-of-silence/comment-page-4/?amp=1


  25. LOL
    Since when did the chronology of law sections determine relative importance?

    Bushie would have thought that the post of LOTO was CREATED when the constitution or appropriate laws declared that there SHALL be a LOTO.
    .. and that such a position was FILLED from time to time, after the opening of a parliamentary term and the required conditions are met.

    In which case, the ESTABLISHED position would be VACANT if:
    – The holder resigned, died etc
    – The parliamentary term ended for whatever reason
    – The opposition group decided to dump his donkey
    …or if Kellman and Thompson could not decide among themselves… LOL

    The question of ‘bringing it into existence’ would then have been addressed when the original Act was proclaimed -not so?
    Therefore, as long as the Law makes PROVISION for the post of LOTO, then the POST EXISTS… even if it is vacant because the DLP insisted in shooting themselves in the foot…twice.

    In Bushie’s humble opinion..
    This would seem to support PLT’s reference at this point.


  26. When Parliament is dissolved, the offices of the PM and LOTO (I like that acronym) ceases to exist.

    There is no one holding the office.

    The 30 seats however are constant and need to be filled.

    They are the only vacancies that exist.

    No one runs to be leader of the opposition, they run to be the member for whatever constituency.

    No one runs for the office of PM because there is no office of the PM until it is created.

    Once elections are over, the posts of PM and Leader of the opposition are then decided by the two major groups in the House of Assembly.

    The larger group is the Government, the smaller group is the opposition.

    Pretty standard stuff …. agree?

    If all members are independent and will not coalesce into those two identifiable groups, then no office of the PM or LOTO will be brought into existence and there can be no parliament.

    In 2018, the GG swore in 29 ministers of Government and the Prime Minister.

    But there was no LOTO to swear in!! ….. agree so far?

    There was only one member of the House of Assembly who was not sworn in as a minister.

    That was the Right Reverent Joe.

    If you believe Joe was slighted, I have a bridge I will sell you.

    So, there is no group in opposition to appoint a leader!! —- agree so far, not rocket science?

    Reverent Joe was elected by BLP voters and BLP is claiming to be the group who will govern.

    Joe is a member of the intending Government.

    Reverent Joe then proclaims himself the leader of the opposition.

    Show me where in the constitution this is allowed? ….. not rocket science to realise Joe is a member of the group who intends to govern.

    There is no opposition group for him to join?

    There is no floor to cross because there is no other side!!

    It is empty, a nullity!!

    He fell in a hole!!

    So how is this expressed in the constitution?

    74 (2)


  27. 75. During any period in which there is a vacancy in the office of Leader of the Opposition ………

    If there is no opposition, how can there be a leader of the opposition?

    There is nothing to lead!!

    No need to be a scholar to figure this out!!!

    This is how simple it is!!

    30-0 cannot produce an opposition!!


  28. There is a basic difference between ‘being vacant’, and ‘ceasing to exist’.
    ‘Parliament’ ceases to exist because the 30 MP seats (who comprise it) have been decleared vacant.
    But the position of LOTO is surely a CREATION of the Constitution and laws of Barbados.
    Just as the position of “SPEAKER’ remains vacant until filled – but certainly NOT ‘ceasing to exist’ … Otherwise, if non existing, these posts would need to be ‘legally reincarnated’ for every parliamentary session.

    For example
    Our Laws says that there shall be an annual management report for the NISSS made to parliament. This CREATES that annual report.
    The FACT that such a report remains elusive is not about it ‘ceasing to exist’ … and needing to have yet another Law enacted to facilitate it…
    The damn report is just VACANT….

    LOL
    Obviously in its absence, the President has authorize the authorities to ignore the relevant law.. and keep on spending the pension money… well if she had any powers to do so..

  29. Peter L. Thompson Avatar
    Peter L. Thompson

    @ Bush Tea
    I do appreciate your efforts to correct John’s enormous mistakes in confusing an office being vacant with the existence of the office… and reading a law sequentially like a Fortran program??? That really had me rolling on the floor laughing. Your common sense helps prevent him from leading others astray.

    I am convinced that he really doesn’t believe the nonsense he is spouting because despite his enthusiasm to sow havoc, he really isn’t that stupid. I think.


  30. BT

    You are not reading what the Constitution says.

    The Constitution does not create the LOTO.

    That’s your basic error, you are not reading!!

    READ 74(2) and weep ….. with laughter.

    It is unbelievable that so many people could be so foolish. These are your consummate BB’s, unfortunately you are one too!!

    The Constitution tells three parties HOW to create the post of the LOTO.

    The Constitution does not create the LOTO, that is crazy, it just provides a recipe to be followed by those three parties which leads to the appointment of a BRAND NEW LOTO.

    Those three parties are firstly, the group in parliament which initiates the process.

    The largest group in opposition choses a LOTO.

    If there is no group, there can be no LOTO.

    Self-proclamation doesn’t work!!

    The LOTO then goes to the GG once he is judged by the GG to be the person who commands the support of that group and the GG officially creates the post.

    It there is NO group in opposition, then there can be no LOTO!!

    No need for the GG to do anything ….. except to set the date for the next election, the only sensible thing to do!!

    Go back to the people!!


  31. (2) Whenever the Governor-General has occasion to appoint a Leader of the Opposition he shall appoint the member of the House of Assembly who, in his judgment, is best able to command the support of a majority of those members who do not support the Government, or if there is no such person, the member of that House who, in his judgment, commands the support of the largest single group of such members who are prepared to support one leader:


  32. Here is how the post becomes vacant.

    74. (3) The office of Leader of the Opposition shall become vacant-

    (a) if, after an election of members of the House of Assembly following any dissolution of Parliament and before that House first meets thereafter, he is informed by the Governor-General that the Governor-General is about to appoint another person as Leader of the Opposition;

    (b) if he ceases to be a member of the House of Assembly for any reason other than a dissolution of Parliament; or

    (c) if his appointment is revoked under the provisions of subsection (4).

    (4) If, in the judgment of the Governor-General, the Leader of the Opposition no longer is able to command the support of a majority of those members of the House of Assembly who do not support the Government, or, as the case may be, the support of the largest single group of such members who are prepared to support one leader, the Governor-General may revoke the appointment of the Leader of the Opposition.


  33. There are three parties required to create the LOTO.

    a. A group

    b. The prospective LOTO

    c. The GG

    30-0 eliminates two of the three parties!!


  34. “Whenever the Governor-General has occasion to appoint a Leader of the Opposition he shall appoint the member of the House of Assembly who….”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    A person can only be appointed by the president to a post that ALREADY EXIST, …AND that is vacant.
    The President does NOT have the authority to CREATE such posts – apart from their role in the proclamation of the Laws that do so…
    QED
    The post ALREADY EXISTS IN LAW… but is vacant – for lack of qualified candidates.
    Section 75 therefore applies.

    This is too basic to warrant further Bushie inputs….


  35. “Whenever the Governor-General has occasion to appoint a Leader of the Opposition”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    75. During any period in which there is a vacancy in the office of Leader of the Opposition …., get the quote right!!

    Understandest thou what thou readest?

    You are being a BB again.

    Until the GG appoints, no LOTO exists, in fact, no PM exists either because no Parliament exists!

    74 needs to happen first.

    Read 75 again and you will see that 75 has ABSOLUTELY nothing with the appointment of a LOTO.

    75 determines how the GG should act (discretion) if there is a vacancy in the OFFICE of the LOTO!!

    OFFICE …. not orifice!!

    The Office cannot exist if there is a 30-0 result.

    Further more, the OFFICE (not orifice) of the PM cannot exist either.

    So, as I said, 74 comes logically and chronologically before 75 but you do not need to be a scholar to understand that, but it helps if you are a BB!!

    BTW, proportional representation has absolutely nothing to do with the constitution!!!

    As Justice Blackman pointed out to PLT at the CRC a Sunday night gone, proportional representation would correctly fall under the Representation of the People Act, not the Constitution.

    Not only are the two of you not reading, but neither of you are listening to the “learned” Justice.!!

    Read, learn and inwardly digest, ….. or listen to someone who has.


  36. What did the learned judge tell you when you raised the matter of an illegal government?


  37. The problem with written Constitutions is the wordage blows the mind of autistic people like John who cannot comprehend the nuances of the intent and meaning behind the law and bigger picture, which requires intuitive common sense and not literal anal interpretations.

    Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a complex developmental condition involving persistent challenges with social communication, restricted interests and repetitive behavior.

    Simple points are
    Parliament can function without a LoO if none match criteria of a democratic vote


  38. “Whenever the Governor-General has occasion to appoint a Leader of the Opposition”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    75. During any period in which there is a vacancy in the office of Leader of the Opposition …., get the quote right!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    THAT WAS a repeat of YOUR QUOTE @ 9:46 pm Jan 15


  39. David
    January 16, 2025 at 6:43 am
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    What did the learned judge tell you when you raised the matter of an illegal government?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That a member of the judicial branch, Madame Justice Cicely Chase, unconstitutionally appointed, had validated the Senate according to the unconstitutionally altered constitution and the matter was subject to appeal, before a Court of Appeal in which all justices have been unconstitutionally appointed.

    In a nut shell.

    So, I guess what you are saying is that the “learned” justice is not so learned after all and PLT could be excused for ignoring him!!


  40. Bush Tea
    January 16, 2025 at 7:50 am
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    “Whenever the Governor-General has occasion to appoint a Leader of the Opposition”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    75. During any period in which there is a vacancy in the office of Leader of the Opposition …., get the quote right!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    THAT WAS a repeat of YOUR QUOTE @ 9:46 pm Jan 15

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Why on earth did you not read the constitution?

    I know, you are a BB in a country of BB’s.


  41. Steupsss!!!


  42. I will accept the steupsss, I take it that the penny has finally dropped!!


  43. Damn, I am getting old! Correction: Say It Again Lectures on CBC.

    The OG,

    There will be corruption in most governments. The aim is to minimise it. I do believe it can be done.

    One thing, many people are of the opinion that our politicians have no interest in bettering Barbados, because after it is completely destroyed, they and/or their offspring have better places to go.

    But Erskine Sandiford and one of his daughters remained and she raised her family here. And the other, my friend, returned in a casket. Owen Arthur remained. David Thompson’s daughters did not all leave. Freundel lives up the road still. And they all have extended family that they care about.

    I have known quite a few of these people and I think that many of them want to enrich themselves, yes, but not to totally destroy Barbados in the process. Their problem is in maintaining the balance. That balance must be maintained for them by the people.

    And so, no, you will never welcome me to your side of the fence. I believe that things can get better…….but only when the people believe that they can. Your perspective does not promote positivity, and only positivity can move us forward. Negativity gets us nowhere that we wish to be.

    P.S. I am not aware of any greedy grabs by Erskine Sandiford.


  44. @ Donna,
    You have selected a narrow list of individuals to add ballast to your argument.

    May I suggest that you look at the macro landscape.

    The balance you talk of – and i will use the example of land and housing – remains out of reach for your sprog and the majority of young and middle class Bajans.

    The reason for this is self-evident. The vast majority of real estate is been swallowed up by ousiders.

    PLT makes no mention of this in his constitution. What is the purpose of developing one when the majority black population lacks the means to survive on the island. They will be discouraged and seek alternative pastures.


  45. TLSN,

    I chose the LEADERS. The reason for that should be obvious to thinking persons.

    The balance to which I referred was that between wanting to enrich yourself and wanting to enrich the country.

    Nice job switching out “greener” for “alternative”! Hahahaha! Acknowledging that those pastures aren’t actually greener for many at present?

    Anti-immigration sentiment is rife and growing across Whitemanland! Apart from that, the oligarchs are sucking the lifeblood out of the homegrown regular folk as well.

    There is nowhere to run for the majority of people.


  46. The judicial branch has ended up destroying itself.

    All it took was for any judge in 2018 to say 30-0 cannot work.

    Instead, the judicial branch connived with the BLP and DLP to create this mess.


  47. So we end up with no constitutional executive branch and a judicial branch that is totally hobbled in trying to support the BLP and DLP.

    The office of the AG is wide open to a class action constitutional action!!

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