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The People of Barbados will be severely affected by the proposed changes to the National Insurance Scheme. They have noted that last March 2022, the Prime Minister stated that it was her intent to:

1. Make the National Insurance Scheme (NIS) a Statutory Corporation more independent from      Government by the end of 2022.

2. Recapitalize the NIS.

3. Add a requirement to diversify investments both locally and abroad.

4. Ensure that when private projects SEEK PUBLIC SUPPORT, they give the NIS the choice to invest.

However, the People of Barbados not having been privy to any report on the consultations regarding the National Insurance scheme, not being provided information on the Actuarial Review of the Pension Fund, not having knowledge of the assets of the Scheme or how the tax payers monies are being spent or invested or government’s action to recover funds that are being owed; are now being faced with a Bill that has already  passed in the House of Assembly without discussion when this Bill will have profound effects on the lives of the dwindling middle class and all of the persons from the lower echelons of society and Barbadians yet unborn. The Bill is now before the Senate the step before it becomes the law of the land.

Please sign the Petition to Withdraw The National Insurance (Amendment) Bill & Pensions (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill

The People have decided to take a stand.  Our concerns are for:

1. Public engagement in a matter that profoundly alters the National Insurance scheme as it presently exists.

2. The conducting of a Social and Economic Impact Assessment on how such action will affect persons who currently live in Barbados as well as Barbadians who live abroad that have worked on the island and are due a pension.

3. All other options be explored to maintain the safety net of the people before the National Insurance Scheme is tampered with to the detriment of the people.

4. The impact on people who are currently eligible for a pension but with the proposed Bill, will not have enough contributions since the number of contributions will rise from 500 to 750.

5. That government bear the burden of proof to show evidence that their proposal in the form of a Bill has been a successful in another country and can therefore be a model adopted by Barbados.

6. That an island which currently has concerns about the level of productivity would even consider extending the retirement age of its workforce as this will undoubtedly lead to less productivity especially for manual, blue collar, construction and agricultural workers and a rise in physical and age-related illnesses.

7. The fact that many of our statutory corporations were established to relieve them of the administrative burden of the public service. While this makes sense in theory (1) we know that many statutory corporations have not been very good at producing financial statements to account for their operations (2) they are more politicized than the Civil Service since Governments will change the entire board and top management based on partisan political considerations rather than performance or ability. (3) Ministers with responsibility for statutory corporations are known to have refused to bring information about their operation to the Cabinet. There is nothing to suggest this will change.

8. That our pensions will be used to support/prop up private sector projects.

9. While diversifying investment sounds good, who will manage these investments? With no regard for the Auditor General how will we know that the money will not be going to family and friends? The people still are not provided with the transparency to know what happens to borrowed funds after they pass through the Estimates process so how can we trust what will happen to our NIS funds?

The time to act is now and based on the foregoing, we the People are demanding that:

1. The age of retirement to be at 65

2. Eligibility remains at 500 contributions

3. Politicians and citizens to be on par with respect to retirement age

4. More compliance officers be employed to ensure contributions are paid

5.  Government pay back the money owed

6.Government identifies the leaks in the scheme and fix them

7. Government goes after defaulters

8. Regular audits are conducted

9. Systems are put in place whereby the government cannot use the funds

10. NIS be placed into the Central Government and not under the absolute control of the Minister

11. Systems are put in place to help microbusinesses file their contributions

12. That The National Insurance (Amendment) Bill & The Pensions (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill be withdrawn.

 

 


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166 responses to “Sign up – Government Asked to Withdraw Changes to NIS Bill”

  1. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    “The People have decided to take a stand”
    A few years too late? “The People” don’t read BU?
    Too many incorrect claims, and scattered focus on demands.


  2. Too late shall be your cry!


  3. The election of Cornel West will not help the world economy or the NIS.

    Oh jesus christos, but West has located the 2024 election thusly.

    “A election of Biden will lead up to world war”.

    “And the election of Trump will lead to civil war.”

    Separately

    We recognize the arrival of Afreximbank.

    We wish them well!

  4. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    ALL Pension Fund problems can be permanently solved by eliminating the need for the Fund with a Pension Tax.

    KISS Solution
    1) STOP NIS contributory pension benefit. NIS will ONLY provide sickness, maternity, injury, disability and unemployment benefits.
    2) Everyone gets a pension calculated based on the average of your last 5 years earnings information in BRA PAYE Tax records.
    3) Implement a Pension Tax on non-pension earnings recalculated each year to cover all the projected pension payouts until the next year when the Pension Tax is recalculated.

    NIS would continue to pay pensioners but would be doing it on behalf of BRA.

    Whoever wants more pension than that would have to supplement by private pension plans, investments or business ventures.

  5. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    . The age of retirement to be at 65..too late, that ship sailed already

    2. Eligibility remains at 500 contributions…too late it’s at 759

    3. Politicians and citizens to be on par with respect to retirement age…good fucking luck

    4. More compliance officers be employed to ensure contributions are paid….bullshit. more jobs no results.

    5. Government pay back the money owed…good luck

    6.Government identifies the leaks in the scheme and fix them…pardon me. You expect the govt to police themselves?

    7. Government goes after defaulters…good idea. But…the big source of money waste, is the government not the defaulters.

    8. Regular audits are conducted…it was law and hasn’t been done successfully for 15+ yrs.

    9. Systems are put in place whereby the government cannot use the funds…ha ha ha. They were using them and you didn’t even know 😂😂

    10. NIS be placed into the Central Government and not under the absolute control of the Minister…..so you think central government doesn’t fall under a Minister. Duh.

    11. Systems are put in place to help microbusinesses file their contributions…yank yank…micro business people are idiots?

    12. That The National Insurance (Amendment) Bill & The Pensions (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill be withdrawn….and replaced with ????

    So David a ‘barely like um’ list.


  6. @NO

    The petition is piloted by Heather Cole.


  7. Should have scotched the 30-0 nullity in 2018.

    May not have helped much with the NIS as it had been already rifled.


  8. Listen start with 3 things

    ENSURE THAT THE NIS IS RECAPITALIZED BY GOVERNMENT TO THE AMOUNT OF $80M A YEAR FOR THE NEXT 12 YEARS. (After all you right of 1 billion that wasn’t wunna one now put it back)

    RING FENCE THE FUND BY LAW PROHIBITING INTERFERENCE BY ANY POLITAL PARTY NOW OR IN FUTURE FOR THE ENTIRE LIFE OF THE FUND. IN OTHER WORDS NO MOF WILL BE ABLE TO FORCE INVESTMENT OR INCREASE PENSION PAYMENTS BEFORE AN ELECTION AGAIN. DECISIONS LIKE THIS WILL BE MADE SOLELY BY THE BOARD AFTER FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION OF THEIR IMPACT .

    FINALLY AS OF JANUARY 2024 NON CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS WILL CEASE TO EXIST. SHOULD GOVERNMENT WISH TO CONTINUE WITH THESE PAYMENTS THEY WILL BE MADE FROM THE CONSOLIDATED FUND AND BEAR THE NAME ” A SOCIAL ASSISTANCE PAYMENT” THEREBY REMOVING THE WORD PENSION FROM THE DESCRIPTION.

    Start with the above and we good.


  9. Suppose we never had NIS.

    There would have been no money to steal.

    The incentive would be with the private sector to make pension schemes available to the public on a competitive basis and there is a market because far more persons work today than prior to the onset of NIS.

    So, one provider would be in competition with another to get the best returns for the monies the public entrusted to them for the supply of their future pensions.

    There would be also an incentive for private companies to compete in providing health and employment insurance.

    It is obvious that whether the retirement ages changed up or down or the number of contributions changed from 500 to 750, the de dog dead, sooner or later and if left to Government, it will be sooner.

    Everything government touches turns to dust.

    You may say that CLICO was a private entity and it folded but if you follow the political links you will realise the Government was instrumental in its demise.

    The problem is with Government.

  10. Yolande Grant - African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved. Avatar
    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    Pacha…the people finally got a real good glimpse into just how much danger they are in from the evil dangerous traitor government headed by the bajan talking machine…

    They can now take it.from there…..they now know their very survival depends on how they proceed.


  11. I agree wholeheartedly with your suggestion of discontinuing non-contributory pensions. Why should people be forced to contribute 2% of their earnings to pay people who essentially refuse contributing to NIS. Everyone pays value added tax…. and, I believe any ‘social assistance’ should be paid therefrom. Also, what is the purpose of a ‘training levy’ that justifies people contributing 0.50% of their earnings to it? This 2.50% could either be ‘abolished’ thereby reducing the overall NIS contribution rate from 11.10% to 8.60%, or increase NI portion from 6.75% to 9.25%.


  12. What is the non contributory amount? Is it 8 million? Who are the majority of people who get this pension? The demographic?


  13. Who would be financing NIS payments of benefits? If the employee has to contribute, wouldn’t a ‘pension tax’ be an additional burden on people, especially those who earn minimum wages?


  14. Part of the non contributory is coming from those who worked and contributed but will never collect (those that migrated or died early) All coming from tax payer pockets one way or another.


  15. I am more concerned about contributing 2% of my earnings to support people who did not contribute as well, unless they were born with a disability that prevented them from working. The ‘demograhics’ or if the payment is $8M or 50¢ are irrelevant, in MY opinion.


  16. And a person with kids will say they are against money taken from them for free education of other people kids and on and on we go. The sewage levy etc


  17. @Artax

    How is it irrelevant if the cost is relatively insignificant in the scheme of things?


  18. What about the contingent rights of Caricom citizens? We need to focus on the governance of the fund to ROI and finding ways to invigorate enrollment in the NIS.


  19. David, are you suggesting people should not be concerned about contributing 2% of their earnings to support non-contributory pensioners, because payments thereof may be insignificant? If so, that is your opinion. I ‘beg to differ.’


  20. @Artax

    People can be concerned about anything, especially what impacts their income. What is a social security designed to do? What is the obligation or responsibility of the state . See earlier question, who are the people that fall into this group? The blogmaster has no dog in this fight, we need to focus on the big picture.


  21. We never liked Imran Khan as a cricketer.

    For he was tooooo good a player, acting against us.

    But as a politician, he’s without peer.

    Makes his former and present foe connote imaginary of the giant and the ant.

    That such a luminary could now be subjected to these the worst forms of political violence.

    And that former West Indian players, socalled greats, to whom he gave nightmares, as a cricketer, could remain silent

    Exposes a level of vacuousness much time and energies were unfortunately invested therein.

  22. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    I have no concern about pilots.
    The issue is accountability.
    If the law can be abused with impunity, there will be no change. Just a different abuse angle.
    If I murder two children, do I merely find two orphans and provide them to the family of the deceased?
    Contributions get diverted (cash) and are later replaced with Bonds, so all is good? The initial crime goes untouched.
    A company CBL is formed, and not a single annual report as required by law is issued, but it loses $124M and the lone asset (land as loan collateral) is being disputed. NOBODY has ever been called to account.
    If it wasn’t for the IMF, the NIS contributions re-direction may still be a secret. The NIS don’t issue annual reports as required by law.
    The law don’t apply to we?
    When the GoB wanted to offload the Caves, past Reports appeared as if by magic. All the stumbling blocks which apply to others were overcome?


  23. To clarify- are you suggesting NO that if the governance issues were being complied with we would not have the concerns of today?


  24. Artax

    I don’t know when NIS started but back in the day I can remember most moms used to be stay at home mothers. I can think of two both over 75 where the husband/ child father passed long time ago. these women should be left to be supported by their children or the welfare department?

    The kids and grandkids are now paying the same 2% that you against


  25. Waru

    We remain unconvinced. That there is an awakening. Will be!

    For even at Crop Over. When we had hoped that Iweb would have won the calypso contest, we continue to be asked to talk shiite about dead systems.

    Made dead by the false lovers of democracy and devout supporters of neoliberalism, as window dressing for fascism.

    BTW, did Iweb win?


  26. If we want the NIS to function as a business entity and run an annual surplus,then no activities of the fund can be considered that are not based on revenue collected. The non contributory pension if government wishes to continue with it, must therefore be paid from the consolidated fund and the word PENSION removed from its title. Call it a national social payment or what ever you want but not a pesion.

    Also Artax has a valid point why should he or any of us support those that do not pay? Is it right that a man that has made 749 contributions not see a cent now, but a man that never made one receice a payment?

    Why should we that pay not see a cent to 68 when those that dont pay get $700 plus a month for not paying in a blind cent at 68!

    Look wunna dont mind the sweet talk about bajans living longer bla bla bla. The fund is in trouble because 1 BILLION DOLLARS was removed from the fund and written off. The balance of paper that was not written off by government has seen its earnings drop from rougly 6 percent to 1 percent rougly a year. Add this to the non performing assets like the GROTTO and several like it and thats the real reason wunna got to wait to 68!

    Take the political interference out the fund and run it like a business if you truly want in to be OUR LIFE LINE and not our BURIAL FUND!


  27. @John A
    FINALLY AS OF JANUARY 2024 NON CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS WILL CEASE TO EXIST.
    +++++++
    You know that is a nonstarter; at best you could propose that it should be “granfathered” for recipients; with a cut off point for prospective beneficiaries of non-contributing pensions at some point in time. Do you remember what happened when the Gov’t decided to remove disability pensions for those who were receiving other Gov’t pensions? You can’t arbitrarily cut off pensions for people who are most in need.


  28. I have never hear of I.Web! Nor, was I aware that this type of music was still being released in 2023 in Bimshire. According to BT and The Nation he was declared king of the monarchs. What a tune!

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    I dont follow the crapover component, was even more turned off when the talking machine instead of giving the population hope of reconnecting to their African ancestry …via available data, was so brash and smilingly crude in telling the population to “go wukkup”….many were disgusted by this common class display coming from pretenders of lower stature…that’s all they can intellectially offer….since they know how many decades these lowcrawling hangsters sent manipulating the opulation into that dituation as seeong the crude wukking up as the only culture they have or know.

    Am giving the poulation…minus the slaveminded, ignorant supporters, who will never learn or output anything useful….the benefit of the doubt..

  30. Yolande Grant - African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved. Avatar
    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    *****since they know how many decades these lowcrawling gangsters spent manipulating the population into that situation as seeing the crude wukking up as the only culture they have or know.

    ***Am giving the population…..


  31. @John A

    Can we given our environment truly ring fence the NIS? We talk like the fund can be segregated given limited investment opportunities and particularly cognizant of the fact the fund is only as strong or less threatened by the state of our domestic economy.


  32. The demographic?
    Sometimes we strain ourselves we reach well below our mental abilities.

    I can understand a question like this occuring in a country like the USA. I do not get it for Barbados.

    Who do you think will be the demographics?


  33. @NO
    8:55 a.m., 10:19 a.m.
    Wow
    Slash and burn
    Taking no prisoners

    I like how your eyes are opening. Not a sham, scam, ponzi scheme yet. Getting there.


  34. @CA
    Were you the guy moving around furniture on the Titanic? You need to add more detail to KISS.
    Some stupid don’t get it.


  35. David, a social security system is designed to benefit those persons who made the requisite contributions to it. Politicians are responsible for transforming Barbados into a mendicant society, then we complain about government borrowing and debt increasing.

  36. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    “concerns” is very broad.
    What I am saying is unless accountability is enforced, the C’s (the Cabal), will continue to abuse and ignore.
    Some are calling for the NIS ‘investments’ in GoB debt, which became zero after the debt restructuring, to be returned.
    Yet, those same calls ignore the cause. That for many years the NIS Investment Policy Statement was willfully ignored.
    We en care, we want we money back?
    The causal factors are ignored. Nobody is accountable. It stop so and hollar ply.


  37. @NO

    Fe.

    The noise always crescendo when we are touched in the pockets in a Barbados context:

  38. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @TheoGazerts @Artax

    I simplified it further.

    Government cannot pilfer from our NIS Pension Fund if it is taken away entirely. NO more NIS Pension and smaller NIS deduction.

    Government will instead pay a monthly retirement allowance (RA) calculated on pre-retirement earnings info sent to BRA for PAYE and adjust the PAYE Tax rate on an annual basis to cover the projected retirement allowance payments budget for the year.

    E.g. a person earning $2000 monthly at retirement might get $1200 RA while a person earning $5000+ per month might get $2500 RA


  39. Artax on August 5, 2023 at 12:49 PM said:
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    David, a social security system is designed to benefit those persons who made the requisite contributions to it. Politicians are responsible for transforming Barbados into a mendicant society, then we complain about government borrowing and debt increasing.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You just described socialism!!

    That’s why it is called a “social” security scheme!!

    Politicians did not do the transforming, we did.

    Now we are sick and tired of the misery such a system engenders we make noise.

    Sorry, unless we do something about the 30-0 nullity, we now have created a one party, socialist/Communist/Fascist state.

  40. Yolande Grant - African Online Pubishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved. Avatar
    Yolande Grant – African Online Pubishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    Pacha…there is a 1:12:26 audio on 789 Whatsapp group that you just gotta hear. When you think things could not get any worse or the betrayals any more repulsive…wrong…

    The traitor mind never ceases to meet expectations.

    We expected that is exactly what happened at NIS with the wholesale thefts….the free for all just for wicked politicians and their partners only.


  41. Critical Analyzer
    on August 5, 2023 at 1:32 PM said:
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    @TheoGazerts @Artax

    I simplified it further.

    Government cannot pilfer from our NIS Pension Fund if it is taken away entirely. NO more NIS Pension and smaller NIS deduction.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Who is going to take over a fund that has millions owed to it and has written off $1 billion.

    Young people need to make alternative arrangements.


  42. Waru

    Yes!

    Consciousness is bound by neither space nor time.


  43. This is the same Heather Cole that could not set up a meeting turn. No surprise here. #clueless


  44. Bushie is surprised at your like of attack Enuff…
    wide outside the off-stump…..

    So what if Heather Cole could not set up a meeting turn..?

    Did wunna not promote Doogid to senior minister in charge of ‘all infrastructure’ after he could not even assemble some LEGO steel houses?

    Is Simmuns not a big-up senior too – after telling people to put up solar, even after de power company say Dem aint connecting?

    Is the mock Professor not our TOP financial guru after being the failed Four Seasons guru?

    Is the notorious NIS chief architect not now wunna top financial advisor?

    It seems that Heather is following wunna BLP motto of – ‘gimme de ting and watch muh’…. even if I do shiite…

    LOL


  45. @ David
    @ Sargeant

    If we want future generations to trust the security of the fund and believe that they dont have to work to 75 for pension, then we must ring fence the fund and ensure that future and current governments can not feed off the tits of the fund when they find themselves in a tight cash flow situation.

    If this is not done young people who know of the debt restructuring and the resulting decimation of the NIS, will say “not my money my father lost nuff in the government paper already.”

    It is therefore not really an option if the NIS is to be seen by the young worrkers ‘ as their lifeline.” Basically confidence in the management of the NIS has now to be rebuilt and sweet talk will not suffice this time around.


  46. Bushie

    Watch and comment!
    https://youtu.be/Wi3v1VF95q0


  47. @enuff

    There is a reality that will not go away by attacking Heather, Barbadians are fed up with how successive governments have managed the NIS. Unfortunately you are in seat and will suffer the blowback.

  48. Yolande Grant - African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved. Avatar
    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    “It seems that Heather is following wunna BLP motto of – ‘gimme de ting and watch muh’…. even if I do shiite…”

    Not to mention all ah dem 93 and counting…with the exception of Donogood, are on a looonnngg list now under a RICO filing in Florida…their sidekicks in criminality aka yardfowls should tell is why…

    Looks like the wannabe diktator shite went to their heads and they have no clue there is a price to pay.


  49. Democratic socialism has its flaws. It has to be properly balanced.

    Your free market capitalist system has even bigger flaws. The market is never free.

    John 2 is right about the non- contributory pensions and stay at home moms. And Artax is right that there are many people out there, self-employed people who refuse to contribute and should not receive a pension off the backs of others who did.

    I believe the non-contributory pensions should be fazed out, in a way that it does not impact those who are about to retire. There can be a provision for those who stayed at home to raise children to apply for a benefit. We are worried about population decline, after all.

    As for all the other stuff, I think the horse has already bolted for some of Heather’s suggestions. And others require much money that will not come out of politicians’ pockets.

    But we cannot throw our hands in the air and say that compliance officers will accomplish nothing and ring fencing the fund is impossible.

    So wuh tuh do den? Nothing?

    Awright den. Bye! I got udda fish tuh fry!


  50. But before I go, let me congratulate TLSN for finally posting something worthwhile.

    However, he directed us to I- Webb when the real gem came directly after.

    I-Webb’s song was a Red Plastic Bag template.

    Bits and pieces, news headlines wrapped in a “De Country Sick” paper. Pretty good but…

    Adrian Clarke’s song was a Mighty Sparrow bomber. One topic, a witty tale, delivered in crisp style, without de lotta long drawn out line endings and fancy singing. Tight and Sharp. Perfect phrasing! Calypso in its purist form.

    “Oh, Lion and Donkey arguin’, between de two uh dem, who is really king.” 😊

    Baje cyan beat Trini calypso!

    P.S. I know Slinger Francisco born in Grenada but he move to Trinidad when he did small.

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