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The following discussion with a Nate Hagen was interesting for the blogmaster and exposes a huge gap in the local space of new perspectives to solving problems and generating scenarios for consideration to use Hagen;s thought process. A shocking observation given the level of investment in education post independence.

It is obvious the social and political prattle we continue to hear – more of the same with minimal attempt to engage in needle changing interventions.

Here is the discussion the blogmaster thoroughly enjoyed compliments of BU family member Bentley.

As Ursula K. LeGuin the amazing author said “We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art, the art of words.”

Melanda Schmid-Ochieng

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340 responses to “Thought Leadership Urgently Needed”

  1. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David Bu

    The externalities are givens. We do/can not control them. We have control over the policies that we put in place to neutralize the adverse impacts of the exrternalities.

  2. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ WURA
    It’s fascinating how boldfaced crooks are cast in such intellectually dignified terms.
    Thieves are just blasted thieves. No frigging commitment to anything but their corrupt selves and pathetic lackeys.
    And they are being discussed as if they are making some contribution to their people.
    Should be taken outback and shot.
    Peace.

  3. David Avatar
    David

    @ Vincent

    You will agree an externality is a consequence of the policy and therefore there is a measure of control possibly by defining fit for purpose/relevant policies?

  4. Pavhamama Avatar
    Pavhamama

    https://youtu.be/HH6vd8cY3iA

    Nobody will do this. We have😜

  5. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “And they are being discussed as if they are making some contribution to their people.
    Should be taken outback and shot.”

    exactly what was discussed on another forum today, including ENDING their traitor bloodlines…

    there is always justification and shady excuses made for the corrupt, no outrage, no promises to fight them and stop them….nothing, just a bunch of sissy cowardly agreeing and glossing over crimes committed against their people…..and then act like if any of that has ever worked to change anything in the last 40-50 years…let alone the 90 YEARS that wholesale corruption, thefts, SOCIAL AND FINANCIAL REDUCTION, and pauperization of the Afrikan population began AND NEVER ENDED…

    but they can continue fooling themselves and their dumb followers, cause they are fooling no one else..

  6. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    William….all the evil attributed to generational wickedness is confronting them..ALL at the same time..

    one particular case is going to bring them to their knees before all the others……..WHY…because they were too brazen in stealing the estates and billion dollar bank account of these heirs….they overplayed their hand and involved too many INNOCENT people to pull off that scam….it was successful…but then KARMA and RETRIBUTION CAUGHT UP…after 2 DECADES…

    wuhloss!!!

  7. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    And for those who preach gradualism , they should avail themselves of an interview Martin Luther King did 55 years ago and they will see how far gradualism has gotten them.
    I ain’t going with no twig to fight a man who got a big stick. And I ain’t facing to damn AK47 with a gutter perk.
    These bogus leaders and their apologists are having a field day destroying poor Black people politically, socially and economically.
    But, we continue to ignore the harsh realities : bus fares; water; electricity; food; rent; are breaking up the poor but we talking pure hogwash . Nearly a billion dollars, according to Caswell Franklyn, given to those who have but the poor downtrodden black people who look like the vagabonds in and outside of parliament, do not have one single voice looking out for them.
    Pure BS.

  8. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “they should avail themselves of an interview Martin Luther King did 55 years ago and they will see how far gradualism has gotten them.”

    time wasters…. King realized his error too late, the “burning house” he finally saw….. is now A RAGING INFERNO…and those who are going to feel the brunt are still willing to waste another 2 or 3 centuries that they do not have….and no one is going to allow their cowardice..to invade and sabotage any movement to do better..

  9. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Skinnet
    What more poor people could want but electing their masters and the privilege of living in s democracy?😄

    And after doing that “solemn” duty then you’re required to run down behind stinking politicians begging them for something, to keep promises.

    Do you know that the “cleavages” we identified early on in the administration are still the dominant force.

  10. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “Nearly a billion dollars, according to Caswell Franklyn, given to those who have but the poor downtrodden black people who look like the vagabonds in and outside of parliament, do not have one single voice looking out for them.”

    they steal what rightfully belongs to the poor to give to SCUM THIEVES in the minority class..

    .shades of Zuma with two criminal indians ripping off South Afrika…now the country is 82 Billion dollars in the hole and the people can only see poverty, joblessness and lack of opportunities….all three should be hung…so should all those who take it upon themselves to become treacherous negros..

  11. Lawson Avatar
    Lawson

    Africa you havent even factored in long covid…..the new bad back.

  12. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Long covid is a nasty piece of work…

  13. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    One does not need to be an Einstein to understand how we Bajans have found our ourselves in Death Man’s valley. We have all heard of the Boiling frog idiom:

    “The boiling frog is an apologue describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death.” Wikipedia

    The frog idiom is applicable to a number of our BU Barbados based contributors such as Vincent Codrington and Donna. They are being slowly boiled to death without experiencing the physical sensations or pain. Both individuals appear detached to the realities of what is happening in their country.

    Over the last couple of years there was a frisson in the air when there were discussions of Barbados making preparations to extract oil. All such discussions have now been halted. Now if I were to say to the BU family that our government may have already handed over the countries commercial rights of its untapped oil reserves to a number of external players. Would anyone be surprised? What else in our patrimony has been off loaded without our knowledge?

    And yet one contributor insists that there is still no room for an alternative to the BDLP. Whilst the other employs words such as solutions and commonalities. Such frogs appear to be 90% cooked.

    There is no solution to our problem. The black Bajan will end up thoroughly cooked, no thanks to their corrupted politicians. My only hope is that they will rally and fight their corner. If they are doomed to lose the impending war, I pray they will leave the island in such a state that neither man, beast, or grain could ever hope to survive.

  14. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “Such frogs appear to be 90% cooked.”

    lol….looks good on them too..

    Once ,my life and that of the immediate family…. is not in their hands, i have no anonymous family…….

    their shite government’s hands…since they did not know what to do so they reelected the same corrupt, same slave system…..

    .. nor in the hands of the vast majority of anonymous on BU, they are welcome to wax nonsense every day until they grow weary or too old to wax anything…take note there are no other options for them as they did not allow themselves any…..

  15. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ TLSN
    Perhaps it’s time we realise and accept that we like um so.
    Peace.

  16. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    TLSN
    Is is necesssry to be that truthful!. Your summary of our conditions = past, present and future are so clear and inescapable that even a blind man could see.

    On this question of oil. And this is not the first time around that this issue was raised. We seem to have oil when the BLP is in power and none when the Dems get in.

    Last time the BLP were in that talk was in vogue. When the DLP won in 2008 the oil disappeared. And because he has so transitioned we can say that David Thompson in a meeting with this writer and a representative from an oil major said forthrightly that there was NO oil.

    Do you have reason to believe there really is oil? And if there is, why would a DLP administration from 2008 to 2018 not recover it to save their skin. Answer us these, por favor!

  17. John2 Avatar
    John2

    Making preparations to extract oil?

    Just last year there was testing to find out if there was oil or not

  18. John2 Avatar
    John2

    What local entities possess the ability to look for or extract oil/gas from our waters ?

  19. David Avatar
    David

    “Huge lesson here!

    The donkey told the tiger, “The grass is blue.”

    The tiger replied, “No, the grass is green .”

    The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.

    As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn’t it true that the grass is blue?”

    The lion replied: “If you believe it is true, the grass is blue.”

    The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him.”

    The king then declared: ′′The tiger will be punished with 3 days of silence.”

    The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ′′The grass is blue, the grass is blue…”

    The tiger asked the lion, “Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?”

    The lion replied, ′′You’ve known and seen the grass is green.”

    The tiger asked, ′′So why do you punish me?”

    The lion replied, “That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an ass, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!”

    The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn’t care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.

    When emotions run high, intellect goes low.”

  20. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    Not for this writer!

    At one level there is a culture which requires that one continues to test that which is accepted as true. To see whether it still is

    For a thing is not always what it was before.

    At another, intellect was never the highest way of knowing. In fact intellect is a deceiver which works to override the most certain way of knowing – intuition!

    The first is of “soul”. The second is of “spirit”,. And spirit is never wrong.

  21. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    Being mutually exclusive does not apply when it comes to intellect and intuition.

  22. Magnificent a.k.a Magno – Yu Heard Formula: C₂₁H₃₀O₂ IUPAC ID: (−)-(6aR,10aR)-6,6,9-trimethyl- 3-pentyl-6a,7,8,10a-tetrahydro- 6H-benzo[c]chromen-1-ol Avatar
    Magnificent a.k.a Magno – Yu Heard Formula: C₂₁H₃₀O₂ IUPAC ID: (−)-(6aR,10aR)-6,6,9-trimethyl- 3-pentyl-6a,7,8,10a-tetrahydro- 6H-benzo[c]chromen-1-ol

    Sweet Sunday Sermon?! Hell No. Fuck That Shit.
    BU and Bar Ba Dos is tripping like a Hells Angel on a motorcycle on Acid repeating “Out of Control..Out of Control..Out of Control”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAfzHNjTq-o

  23. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Bring out the arsenal! Murdaaaah!

    Old men going to war!

    Well, they don’t have much to lose anyway. Soon dead regardless.

  24. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    OK! If you believe that fundamental psychological models are to be dethrone.

    That Intellect and intuition are not mutually exclusive and instead enjoy some symbiosis.

    This writer is not so guided.

  25. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    I can picture them now! Oh gawd! Uh gon dead!

    Murdaaaaah!

    Check out de army!

    Oh gawd!

    TLSN, WURA, William, Pachamama to the rescue!

    Reminds me of an old Carew song –

    Wax palax, bruggadung brax!

    Carew back again.

    Wax palax, bruggadung brax!

    Sharin’ licks like rain!

    Far from being boiled, de crappaud smokes she pipe and watches the GERISTRIC BRIGADE limp to de imaginary rescue!

    Murdaaaaaaaah!

  26. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    BOMB
    OMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMB
    OMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMB
    BOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOMBOM
    Back To You (Richie Santana and Peter Bailey Mind Control Remix)
    Oscar G

    Nasty Sixteen vs Back To You feat Tamara Wallace
    DMS12 vs Oscar G & Ralph Falcon

  27. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Laughing too hard at the image!

    geriAtric brigade. Gotta get the name right!

  28. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Thanks for the laughter! It was great to wake up to!

    Murdaaaaaaaaah!

  29. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Surely with these BIG GUNS on our side, we shall soon realise a brave new world, a world of fairness and equity, a world without corruption, a world where AfriKa takes its rightful revered place as the cradle of civilisation!

    The strife will soon be o’er and the battle won!

    Long before de crappaud dun boil!

    Murdaaaaah!

  30. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Slaves to the Dark Beat
    They cannot fight it

  31. David Avatar
    David

    Leadership during economic challenges
    By Ezra Alleyne

    These are challenging times. Prices continue to rise everywhere. And there is no immediate indication of any respite from the factors driving these increases.
    When these situations arise there is an immediate collision between the economics of the issue and the politics arising thereof. An economic solution would be to allow the chips to fall where they may.
    On the other hand, the political solution is to do that which pleases the voters; for as someone once said, politics is a popularity contest.
    In such challenging situations, a steady hand and a careful analysis of the situation are vital if good governance, peace and good order are to be maintained. In recent days, both Dr Kevin Greenidge and Minister Ryan Straughn have said, in so many words, that cutting the rate of value added tax (VAT) or rebating duties on fuel is not as simple as one would believe.
    This country is already aware of the dangers of managing a small economy by absolute reference to doing what is immediately popular. Such action carries a potent sting in its tail, so to speak.
    It is a salutary lesson to which we may not as a people have paid enough respect in our debates on “doing something” about the high cost of living.
    Recent history ought to be enough of a lesson to warn us against hasty popular political action if that action will harm the economy and the recovery of the country’s fiscal and financial health.
    Readers will recall, for example, the astonishment of former Prime Minister Erskine Sandiford in 2014 in an interview with Gercine Carter he made his comment on the parlous economic situation of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP)-run economy at that time. Sir Lloyd asked aloud, “How did we get back here?”
    Sir Lloyd well knew that the country had fallen into the economic quicksand of the most treacherous kind in 1991 and that a serious sting in the tail price had to be paid to get the country over that dangerous precipice.
    Alternative budget
    Seasoned commentators were also aware that framing economic policy by giving priority to political popularity in the 1986 alternative budget of Dr Richie Haynes, the DLP’s shadow Minister of Finance, created an economic quagmire.
    Sandiford had to unravel this quagmire after September 1987, when Haynes resigned
    leaving the economic contagion which infected the economy.
    Prime Minister Harold St John in his 1986 Budget had said that his budget was all that the country could afford without damaging the economy. Haynes in Opposition proved that “talk is cheap” by declaring a proposed tax policy in which a figure of $15 000 was bandied about as an amount which could form the basis of immediate tax relief for all taxpayers.
    In popular parlance, DLP supporters said that Haynes had back-raised Mr St John. But in politics time is longer than twine, and in due course the Haynes economic medicine worked its way through the body politic.
    It resulted in the DLP trip to the IMF, thousands of workers out of employment, the foreclosure of mortgages and a significant retardation of the economic forward thrust of the country’s economy. That is the danger inherent in not carefully calibrating before crafting any policy of relief and relying on cheap polarity.
    Recalling this period of our history is probably not necessary, but our political history is not being currently written, so the immediate consequences of running an economy with both eyes focused on popularity may not be getting the attention it deserves.
    The DLP chant of “this is more than an economy; it is also a society” may be a good political chant, but the correct approach is to recognise and find the correct balance between the interests of the economy and the political objective of buffering the individual as far as possible from the ravages of the global economic turbulence.
    I have tried in this article to avoid the more trenchant examples of the DLP’s internecine exchanges on the economic policy debates, in which the use of language like “backstreet abortion” was applied to efforts to bring back the economy to some kind of equilibrium.
    I consider the current issues as requiring a concerted effort on the part of all Barbadians. This matter cannot be resolved simply by considering either the economy or the politics. A judicious mix is required. That is why we speak of the political economy.

    Ezra Alleyne is an attorney and a former Deputy Speaker of the House of Assembly.

    Source: Nation

  32. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    It is one of those chicken and egg debates.

    Intuition has to be anchored to something within our conscious self. A discussion for another time maybe.

  33. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Ezra Alleyne is the purest political hack. Nothing more.

    Is there not to be a higher way of being which comes with age?

    Or is this the best we are to expect from someone once seen to possess exceptional intellect.

  34. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Fuck The VIP (Oscar G Made In Miami Remix)

  35. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    A Decade of Drum Beats
    Showing the Underground still cares
    Fuck The VIP (Robbie Rivera Mix)

  36. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    When is the Oxymoronic Barbados Thought Leadership going to decriminalise / legalise the OG Kush

  37. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    @ Pachamama,
    Thanks for your kind words. On the mainland, particularly in St Phillips, we know that there are reserves of gas and oil in the ground. The Caribbean basin has reserves of oil that have gone unnoticed and remain largely untapped. If Barbados has oil reserves we can predict that the people of the country will not be beneficiaries of this highly valued hydro carbon should it be extracted.

  38. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Made By Monkeys

    I Think of You (Oscar G Reconstruction)

  39. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    DJ:
    (Déjà)
    I Think Of You feat Darcy Conroy (Pablo Ceballos Timeless Vocal Mix)

  40. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    No wonder @ Pacha and others deserve punishment for trying to argue and discuss reality with you.
    You have described in fine detail that one cannot argue with a person who looks around , sees the obvious erosion that is taking place and believes it can be solved with cliches and promoting watery pie in the sky nonsense as solutions.
    You have certainly spat in the air and it has fallen right back in your face.

  41. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    We have a black government governing a majority black population. Yet, they have struggled to get out of first gear when it comes to lifting and bringing prosperity to their own people. Conversely, they have bent over backwards to assist minority businesses. I see that The William’s boy has – once more – been commissioned to carry out road repairs. This man has had a monopoly on building and repairing roads in Barbados for many decades.

    The video below is an example of what can be achieved in a country with a non-black government, in a country which is hostile to blacks; where you are simply a member of another minority group.

  42. David Avatar
    David

    What are you gripping and moaning about this time William?

  43. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    “they have bent over backwards to assist minority businesses”

    you clearly do not understand how business works son

    I asked you already
    I will ask you again
    Which part of the UK United Queendoom do dummies like you live in?!

    Angel (Vinyl Life Dub)

    Angel (Oscar’s Dubstrumental)

  44. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Oh God What Have You Done The Process Has Begun Will We Ever Find The Way To Yesterday In My Time Of Need An Angel Was Trying To Catch Me Oh God What Have I Done The Heartache Has Begun Will I Ever Find the Way to Be With Her Some Done Oh God What Have I Chosen

    Going Down Down Down
    A Deeper Level Deeper
    On the Barbados Underground
    to the London Underground Station Underground

    Angel feat Stryke

  45. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    You are just a very sophisticated well trained obstructionist. You have no intellectual authority to question those who are seeking genuine change.
    You are calling for a change but you want change without destroying the same status quo you pretend to want changed.
    I suspect that most of us on BU who are being laughed at scorned and daily misquoted and maligned , are just as comfortable as those who come here propping up the decadent system and the the two bogus political parties that are responsible for widespread poverty and degradation.
    However, while some feel very comfortable because they can eat a plate of breadfruit and red herring, others see beyond personal comfort and put themselves defending those who can least defend themselves.
    Some people see beyond the narrow confines of their kitchen windows.
    In the old time days, to hide their poverty, some people used to just put a piece of garlic and onion in the frying pan. When you past by their kitchen windows , you will feel they were cooking a real meal.
    It was just a smell / odour to fool people .
    They did not have anything to cook.
    Peace

  46. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    “It was just a smell / odour to fool people”

    like diarrhea?
    Our Bu radical intellectuals from Africa who have never reached suffer from verbal diarrhea and cloudy thinking delusion

    Angel (Lawler’s Dark Execution Mix)

    Angel (Lawler’s Dark Instrumental Mix)

  47. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Trippin feat Adaja Black (Yiannis F**k Me I’m Trippin Mix)

    Trippin feat Adaja Black (Lauer & Canard Remix)

  48. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Stop Overthinking like DJ Theo

  49. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    Crime alert

    Commissioner of Police Richard Boyce told the Sunday Sun that the Barbados Police Service has already seen a rise in theft.
    ……….
    It must be real bad for this info to be released
    But what can one expect when govt cant find any mechanism to decrease unemployment and prices continue to rise
    Having an economy relying on a one nest seasonal basket
    Past three and half years some economist have asked govt to find the fiscal ease of responsibility to help.the people
    People have continued a path of resistance
    Not surprised at the increased in criminal activity

  50. David Avatar
    David

    @William

    Blah Blah Blah

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