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The Government, private sector and unions have signalled their intention to move from the optional injection phase to the mandatory. They seem convinced that the injections can only benefit Barbadians, and do not understand why many Barbadians are hesitant.

Both vaccinated and unvaccinated persons deserve an honest evidence-based discussion of COVID-19. To facilitate that discussion, the facts that are publicly known to-date are outlined in this article.

SARS-CoV PANDEMIC

In 2002, there was a pandemic called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in China. It was caused by the SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV).

In 2004, the US and Chinese Governments funded research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China, where they identified bats as the source of the SARS coronavirus [1].

CREATING VIRUSES

In 2005, US researchers developed a method of creating a new SARS coronavirus from parts of other viruses. Their method made it impossible to know whether the new virus was developed in a lab or naturally [2]. The method was called “no-see-um”.

In 2007, the Governments of China, Australia and Europe funded research at WIV where new viruses were assembled, by using parts of the SARS-CoV virus. Their new virus was able to infect human cells [3].

CREATING DANGEROUS VIRUSES

In 2015, the US and Chinese governments funded research, where US researchers (who developed the “no-see-um” method) genetically modified virus samples from China. These new viruses efficiently replicated in the human respiratory system, and were resistant to antibodies and vaccines [4].

In 2016, Chinese and US governments funded research at WIV. They developed a method of genetically modifying the virus created by US researchers in 2015. They developed multiple versions of this dangerous coronavirus [5].

CREATING DEADLY VIRUSES

In 2017, Chinese researchers at WIV were developing new coronaviruses using the “no-see-um” method [6]. They also developed different coronaviruses that could better infect, and efficiently replicate in humans [7].

In 2018, the Government of China funded research at the WIV that included replicating and modifying some of the most deadly viruses known to man, including Ebola, and Marburg [8]. This unpublished work was ongoing at the lab during the COVID-19 outbreak.

LAB SECURITY

The purpose of all of this research appears to have been well-intentioned. Researchers assumed that the next pandemic would come from a variant of the bat virus. Therefore, they were trying to develop a variant that could easily infect, and rapidly replicate in humans, so that a vaccine could be developed for it.

The problem is that genetically developing deadly viruses should be done at the highest security level, to prevent their escape. Level 4 provides the highest level of laboratory security. For comparison, the security level in a dentist’s office is Level 2.

The Chinese were developing dangerous viruses in Level 2 conditions [3]. Chernobyl should have taught the world that international level disasters can happen, when people deliberately do not adhere to safety standards specifically designed to prevent such disasters.

THE GAMES

On 12 September 2019, the Wuhan Institute of Virology removed its public database of over 22,000 entries from the Internet. Between 18 to 27 October 2019, China hosted the once-in-four-years Military World Games. It was attended by 9,308 military persons from 109 countries. Barbados sent two persons and won one bronze medal [9]. The host city was Wuhan.

Visiting athletes reported having their temperature checked at the airport [10]. Many visiting athletes became sick with COVID-19 like symptoms in Wuhan, and/or soon after they left [11]. Some countries have confirmed that COVID-19 was present in their countries in November 2019 [12].

THE DESTRUCTION

On 1 January 2020, Chinese labs were ordered to destroy their virus samples. Two days later, Chinese institutions were ordered not to publish any information on the virus, and to destroy all virus samples or give them to authorised Government agencies [13].

ANALYSING THE EVIDENCE

The evidence points to an accidental leak of different genetically modified viruses from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, before the military games. It was then spread throughout the world by the soldier athletes, when they completed their deployments. This may explain the relatively rapid global spread, and the diverse (now 15) variants.

The latest research suggests that a variant like MERS (with a one-in-three fatality rate) is a realistic possibility. The possibility that a new variant would evade current vaccines, and become difficult to revaccinate against, is almost certain [14].

WHY THE HESITANCY?

Why is there such hesitancy in discussing the possibility that COVID-19 was created in a lab?

The mountain of credible publicly available scientific evidence, suggests that COVID-19 was created in a lab. There is no similar evidence that it developed naturally. Why are those on the side of the overwhelming supporting evidence labelled conspiracy theorists?

VACCINE DEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTION

The development of the COVID-19 vaccines is founded on the unverified, and likely false assumption that COVID-19 developed naturally. Why is there hesitancy in critically examining the vaccines, given that the foundation on which they were developed is questionable?

Barbadians are not anti-vax. Barbadians normally take vaccinations to protect themselves against natural diseases. If COVID-19 is not a naturally occurring virus, Barbadians are justified in being hesitant. That hesitancy can be addressed with an honest evidence-based discussion – or by force.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

REFERENCES


[1] Li, W et al. Bats are natural reservoirs of SARS-like coronaviruses. Science, 2005.

[2] Baric R, Sims C. Development of Mouse Hepatitis Virus and SARS-CoV Infectious cDNA Constructs. Current Topics in Microbiology and Immunology, 2005.

[3] Ren, W. Difference in receptor usage between severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) coronavirus and SARS-like coronavirus of bat origin. Journal of Virology. 2008.

[4] Menachery, V et al. A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence. Nature Medicine, 2015.

[5] Zeng, L et al. Bat Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome-Like Coronavirus WIV1 Encodes an Extra Accessory Protein, ORFX, Involved in Modulation of the Host Immune Response. Journal of Virology, 2016.

[6] Leiping, Z. Reverse Genetic System of Bat SARS-like Coronaviruses and Function of ORFX. The University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, 2017.

[7] Hu, B et al. Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus. PLOS Pathogens, 2017.

[8] Pathogen Host Adaptation and Immune Intervention. The Chinese Academy of Science (Implementation 2018-2022).

[9] 2019 Yearbook. 7th CISM World Summer Games. International Military Sports Council, 2020.

[10] Houston, M. “More athletes claim they contracted COVID-19 at Military World Games in Wuhan.” Inside the Games, 17 May 2020.

[11] Francis, D. “Canadian Forces Have Right to Know If They Got COVID at the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan.” Financial Post, 25 June 2021.

[12] Fongaro, G et al. The presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in human sewage in Santa Catarina, Brazil, November 2019. The Science of the Total Environment, July 2021.

[13] Pingui, Z. China confirms unauthorised labs were told to destroy early coronavirus samples. South China Morning Post, 15 May 2020.

[14] Long term evolution of SARS-CoV-2. Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). 26 July 2021.


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888 responses to “Difficult Conversations – Addressing Vaccine Hesitancy”


  1. “Those who were to die are already dead.”

    This may be true of your stillborn arguments in the alternative universe. In the real world??? NO!


  2. re The virus in the vaccine???
    SHOULD IT NOT BE?
    OF WHAT ARE NORMAL VACCINES TO VIRUSES COMPOSED?

    Nice. An attempted save.

    Is this how the mrna vaccine works?
    Do you believe that the vaccine is causing new infections?


  3. IS IT NOT TRUE THAT “THE TREATMENT” WITH VACCINES IS DOING A LOT OF KILLING? WHY IS THIS?
    Not true. The number of breakthrough cases and the number of deaths in breakthrough cases are small.

    WHY ARE DEATH RATES GOING UP IN AREAS WHERE FOLK HAVE BEEN VACCINATED
    Deaths are in reading in areas where folks are vaccinated and where they are not vaccinated. The main reason being these new and deadlier variants.
    The increase in death is mainly in the not vaccinated population.

    Going for a walk. BRB.


  4. Theo you are such a putz, you are the medical equal of bidens foreign policy. Remember what I told you , as much as it will pain me your insolence will be reflected in your tip the next time I am on the island.


  5. Florida’s deaths per million are mid range, #21.

    New Jersey and New York are at the top.

    Florida has plenty out of state persons living there because they fled from states with high COVID.

    Remember one of the New England States tried to imposed a travel ban early on to prevent folks from New York and New Jersey fleeing there?

    If you want to understand why the young are being affected more now look at the major causes of hospitalization.

    Hypertension is up there!!

    It could be physical, but it may be as complicated and yet as simple as faith!!

    Having watched the targeted group get hammered in the early days, the young may have felt themselves unassailable.

    What you see is that now the virus in the youngsters where it was all the time although not to the same extent as the old.

    Many young people these days do not have the fortitude, resilience, self confidence or strength of character of old fogeys.

    They will figure it out with experience when they start to realise they may be in hospital in large numbers but are not dying off.


  6. One of the biggest obstacles for the younger persons to overcome is the acceptance that vaccinations are not working.


  7. … especially if they are vaccinated themselves and still catch the virus.


  8. Scared to death!!


  9. Repeat, repeat, repeat the big lie.
    It will become the truth.

    “vaccinations are not working”


  10. now what does russia collusion have to do with vaccines


  11. Breaking news on CP24 Toronto.

    ” Jackie and her sister were rescued from the streets of Barbados ”

    https://www.iheartradio.ca/ctv-news-content/missing-dog-from-barrie-area-found-after-five-days-in-smooth-rocks-falls-1.15925478


  12. Sometimes you have to entertain the children

    A Quickie…
    @Lawson
    A man goes into a restaurant and is seated. All the waitresses are gorgeous. A particularly voluptuous waitress wearing a very short skirt and legs that won’t quit came to his table and asked if he was ready to order:

    “What would you like, sir?”

    He looks at the menu and then scans her beautiful frame top to bottom, then answers, “A quickie.”

    The waitress turns and walks away in disgust.

    After she regains her composure she returns and asks again,

    “What would you like, sir?”

    Again the man thoroughly checks her out and again answers,

    “A quickie, please.”

    This time her anger takes over, she reaches over and slaps him

    across the face with a resounding “SMACK!” and storms away.

    A man sitting at the next table leans over and whispers,

    “Um, I think it’s pronounced ‘QUICHE.’”

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    @TheOGazerts August 26, 2021 9:00 AM

    Best joke in a long time.


  14. But wait! The VACCINES are not working?

    So we having vaccines now?????

    Question that has been asked and ignored again and again and again – do breakthrough infections occur with measles, mumps and other vaccines?

    Thankfully there are thousands of other TRAINED DOCTORS, who can and do answer – YES, YES and YES!

    So…. if breakthrough infections occur with other vaccines then why should covid vaccines be any different.

    The vaccines that our parents gleefully ran to the polyclinics to receive worked to control the disease because for the most part, they were gleefully accepted. But this took place, not in a matter of months but of years.

    In the breakthrough infections which occurred with the familiar vaccines, vaccination resulted in a milder form of the disease in the vast majority of cases.

    Just like this new VACCINE for a new virus that keeps mutating at a rapid pace as it seems coronaviruses are wont to do.

    John is manipulating statistics to fit his political agenda.

    TheO is doing a great job of exposing him. Anyone who has been exposed to the study of statistics can see what John is doing.

    WHY, WHY, WHY?


  15. Lawson sees a beautiful woman at the other end of the bar. He walks up to her and says, “Where have you been all my life?”

    “Well,” she says, “for the first fifty years of it, I wasn’t even born.”


  16. HantsAugust 26, 2021 8:56 AM

    Breaking news on CP24 Toronto.

    ” Jackie and her sister were rescued from the streets of Barbados ”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There was a charter flight of 300 dogs and a few cats to Canada from Barbados earlier this year.

    https://www.facebook.com/TheBarbadosAdvocate/videos/603699451023382/


  17. Lol Theo getting better…..Why are there not many shark attacks in barbados… the slow bajans are in jail


  18. Think about it.

    Getting infected with COVID will create natural antibodies …

    …. better than the vaccine!



  19. Another view on early treatment!!

    Don’t wait till you are about to go in hospital.


  20. It may make more sense to catch it if you live in a community with doctors who know how to treat if early. That way you get the real antibodies.

    All a matter of point of view, the chips are on the plate or not depending on your point of view.

    The waitress was able to shift the plate enough so that both could see the same thing … or things!!




  21. @ David,

    “TORONTO — Canada’s largest public school board has voted unanimously to make COVID-19 vaccines mandatory for staff, trustees and visitors.”

    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/tdsb-to-make-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-for-staff-trustees-and-visitors-1.5562018


  22. @Hants

    This is the trend.


  23. So… catch covid in order to become immune to covid.

    Murdaaaah!


  24. Doctors treating COVID patients running out of patience for the unvaccinated, here a story of one doctor and his patient (who died)
    BTW he took hydroxychloroquine

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-17/vaccinated-covid-doctor-shot


  25. @🐇/🐰
    “It may make more sense to catch it if you live in a community with doctors who know how to treat if early. That way you get the real antibodies.”

    Is Eugene helping you out?

    1) See Donna’s comment
    2) See Sargeant’s

  26. Critical Analyzer Avatar
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    @Sargeant August 26, 2021 3:00 PM

    He took the hydroxychloroquine too late and it has to taken with zinc at the first sign of symptoms.

    Please learn the science before you quote articles from stupid doctors. COVID has multiple stages that need to be treated with different medications at different stages. Taking hydroxychloroquine or monoclonalantibodies many days after symptoms appear is like putting a bandage on a serious cut a few days after you got it.


  27. This may help.

    The deaths are down and the cases are up.

    The doctors have practiced their science on enough persons to have learnt what to do!!!

    Probably listening to Dr. Chetty now!!

    Vaccines are not halting the spread, simple fact of life.


  28. THE VACCINE IS NOT HALTING THE SPREAD BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU REFUSE TO TAKE IT AND THERE IS A MORE CONTAGIOUS VARIANT.

    BUT THOUGH CASES ARE ON THE RISE, SERIOUS ILLNESS AND DEATH ARE BEING REDUCED BY THE VACCINE.

    IT IS MOSTLY JACKASSES LIKE YOU WHO ARE GETTING SERIOUSLY ILL AND DYING.

    IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE VACCINATED, SERIOUS ILLNESS AND DEATHS WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THEY ARE.

    YOU, BEING A MATHEMATICIAN, MUST KNOW THAT. YET YOU CONTINUE TO MISLEAD THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO INTERPRET STATISTICS FOR THEMSELVES.

    THIS IS A VERY WICKED ACT AND MAY COST SOMEBODY HIS/HER LIFE.


  29. Can somebody explain to me why these jackasses do not understand that vaccination before and treatment after infection can exist together?

    Is the treatment any safer than the vaccine?


  30. @CA
    Please learn the science before you quote articles from stupid doctors.
    ++++++++++++++
    So are you a Doctor or a scientist? Are the smart Doctors the ones that prescribe solutions that you agree with? At what stage should the patient take various therapies? I am particularly interested in when they should take Ivermectin.

    The article serves to highlight how frustrated some doctors are becoming having to deal with the ongoing tasks of treating unvaccinated patients. When people who are not vaccinated get sick and fill up ICU beds they take away resources from others who are in need of other medical treatment. Do you understand that many medical professionals are suffering from “burn out” due to the overwhelming number of critical patients that they have had to treat in the last 18 months?

    BTW Professor CA the attitude of the “stupid” Doctor ( I attributed the incorrect gender she is female) is prevalent among a large segment of the population who don’t have any empathy for the unvaccinated if they perish from COVID..

  31. Critical Analyzer Avatar
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    @Donna August 26, 2021 5:59 PM

    Let me try to explain it to you.

    We have extremely effective treatments being suppressed in favor of a weak vaccine that does not break the chain of transmission. Why you think they still want vaccinated still wearing masks. Doctors like Dr. Brian Tyson in Texas treated over 6,000 patients since the start of the pandemic with zero deaths. Do you think he is very lucky or does he have an effective treatment protocol that works.

    Do you know before any country receives one COVID vaccine from the manufacturer, they must sign a complete immunity from prosecution for adverse effects contract first? There are no repercussions for manufacturers for anything that goes wrong with the vaccine. These vaccines are using new technology rushed through testing with no long term effects studies. All profit at no risk.

    If the vaccines were a car being sold to us. We would be buying the first model of a car with a totally new engine design with the salesman promising the car will perform as advertised but is not offering any warranty whatsoever. Would you buy that brand new model car vs a known used car to take a 1,000 mile trip into the desert? I would be going with the used car.

    That is the question. Do you trust treatments used by doctors on the frontline that proved themselves over the last 18 months or the vaccine officially released 8 months ago?

  32. Critical Analyzer Avatar
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    @Sargeant August 26, 2021 7:24 PM

    I am no doctor, nor scientist but I don’t need more than the basic science I know to make sense of COVID treatment strategies.

    If a tourniquet is improperly used by a doctor and the patient looses the leg, do we blame the tourniquet or the doctor for not using it correctly?


  33. .DonnaAugust 26, 2021 5:59 PM

    Can somebody explain to me why these jackasses do not understand that vaccination before and treatment after infection can exist together?

    Is the treatment any safer than the vaccine?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are one of the jackass who does not understand the two can exist together so why don’t you just ask yourself.

    Grasshopper seems to be another and of course the resident BU expert on longevity.

    I’ve never said the two can’t exist together.

    If you listen to Dr. Chetty he does not either.

    I’ve always said I was in a wait and see mode and that next year I would review my position.

    Trump contracted COVID and was treated before any vaccine existed.

    Threw it off within days.

    The Doctors told him he was immune but I doubt anyone knows for sure … including the doctors..

    He is also vaccinated but there is no guarantee he can’t catch it again as everyone knows for sure … including the doctors.

    If any of the resident jackasses on BU who may be vaccinated catch it again, they will have to be treated so of course the two can exist together.

    Simple commonsense.

    Here is Trump saying he was vaccinated.



  34. Taiwan deserves a closer look.

    I passed through there once in transit about 40 years ago.

    I suspect they are like Singapore tight control of their water supply.

    They have been through it all before 20 years ago, like Singapore.


  35. Taiwan is supposed to be one of the rainiest places in the world – its climate is subtropical in the northern and central regions, and tropical in the south. Typhoons are common in summer and autumn, and it also gets monsoons. It rains so often here that umbrellas are placed at subway stations and businesses for anyone to borrow.

    But something unusual happened last year – no typhoon hit the island. And there has been little rain in the past year.

    That has plunged Taiwan into its worst drought in 56 years. Many of its reservoirs are at less than 20% capacity, with water levels at some falling below 10%.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56798308


  36. My guess is whatever the Government did in Taiwan to alleviate the critical water shortage is the reason for the large uptick.

    They corrected it so it so cases fell like a rock.


  37. Interesting


  38. Now where did I see something like this?

    How did they get the cases t rise in such a short time and then fall like a rock?

    This is getting too easy now!!

    https://imgur.com/aLAd7j3


  39. Notice Taiwan did fantastically well with no vaccines.

    For the first year in 56 years, water became a weakness for Taiwan!!


  40. @John August 26, 2021 8:34 PM “Threw it off within days. The Doctors told him he was immune…”

    He did not throw of anything. The best doctors and the best medicines that money and power can buy beat if off him.

    CORRECTION: He said that the doctors said that he was immune.

    Question: Does he always tell the truth?


  41. Always!!

    … and anything he says he will do he does!!


  42. Oh no you don’t, jackass! I have ALWAYS said the two should exist together. YOU are the one constantly knocking the vaccines, denying that they are even vaccines and saying that they don’t work.

    And don’t make me post the video where Donald Trump stands gasping as he removes his mask. Not only did he receive round the clock care from a top notch hospital team who had no other priority, he had round the clock care from a medical team AFTER HE RETURNED TO HIS HOSPITAL GRADE FACILITY AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

    So, in effect, he was still in hospital.

    Such hero worship from a grown man is truly embarrassing!

    Oh shoot, I just remembered that the jackass had to be dissuaded from ripping open his jacket to reveal a Superman “S”!

    This is the one time I thank his advisors. As I recall, I was lying down when he ripped his mask off instead. Recent experience leads me to believe that I would have died laughing.


  43. Take a look at this clip and you will see that this COVID survivor from last year received neither treatment nor vaccine.

    By the time he wound up in ICU he was as good as dead.

    By his own admission, only God could save him and He did.

    There is a third option!!


  44. The absence of treatment meant that hospitalization and ventilation became almost a death sentence.

    Fertile ground to promote the efficacy of vaccinations and yet in areas where there were nohospitals or oxygen, some doctors practiced medicine and removed the necessity for hospitalization.

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