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Addressing the country on 27 July 2021, following a meeting of the Social partnership to discuss the issue of mandatory Covid vaccination and testing, Prime Minister Mottley stated, among other things, that her government is convinced that Covid 19 vaccines reduce virus transmission. As the prime minister did not present the evidence on the basis of which the government has formed this conclusion, it was not clear how this opinion was arrived at. A search of the scientific literature on the impact of Covid vaccines on virus transmission produced not a single study that has been conducted on this issue in Barbados or the wider Caribbean region. In fact, globally, there is a significant lack of scientific studies on this matter.

To date, there appears to be one well designed scientific study which specifically sought to determine whether vaccination reduces virus transmission. This study by Harris et al. (2021) investigated the impact of AstraZeneca and Pfizer’s vaccines on virus transmission within households in England. It found evidence of reduced virus transmission in households where the individual had been vaccinated. Although, this is an important study, it’s essential to bear in mind that this is a single study and its results will need to be replicated by future studies to provide solid scientific grounds for the claim that the Covid vaccines reduce virus transmission. Secondly, this study looked only at transmission within households and so its findings are limited to that particular area. Finally, this study collected its data in England between 4 January and 14 March. Anyone familiar with life in England understands that this is one of the coldest times of the year which leads to people spending more time indoors and keeping windows and doors closed to keep in warmth. Poorly ventilated indoor spaces are generally regarded as high risks areas for the spread of Covid 19. Therefore it cannot be assumed that the findings from this study are applicable to Barbados, where people spend a lot more time outdoors all year round and windows and doors are generally kept open to ‘let breeze in the house’. The statement from Dr Corey Forde, Isolation Facilities Manager, on 27 July that 40% of those currently in tertiary Covid isolation in the country have been doubly vaccinated, while the doubly vaccinated represent only 27% of the Barbados population is further evidence that there is lot still to understand about these vaccines and their impact. Therefore, there is an urgent need for scientific studies of the impact of vaccines on virus transmission in the concrete conditions of Barbados before the government can make pronouncements on this issue which have a scientific basis.

When considering the issue of mandatory vaccination, the other question that has to be taken account of is the scale of the public health threat that Covid 19 poses in Barbados. According to the official government statistics, as of 27 July 2021, the government has conducted 212,640 Covid tests, of which 4359 returned positive. In other words 98% of tests returned negative results while 2% were positive. Of Barbados’ population of 287,025 (World Bank estimate for 2019), the positive Covid tests represent 1.5% of the population. Since March 2020, the government statistics report 48 deaths from Covid 19. This amounts to 3 deaths per month for the last 16 months. This compares with a total of 2602 deaths in Barbados in 2019 or 216 deaths per month. Based on this data, a realistic assessment of the public health threat posed to Barbados by Covid 19 can be made and the proportionality of any proposed response can be evaluated.

There is a growing concern that the push towards mandatory vaccination of the population is being driven by the private sector and in particular, the hotel owners who think that describing their properties as fully vaccinated will make it easier to market them in this new Covid era. However, given that the vaccines themselves are not risk free and are associated with vaccine induced injuries and in some cases, deaths, it’s obvious that the decision to accept or refuse vaccination must be the personal choice of each individual once they have been provided with all the relevant information to make an informed decision. Any move to coerce individuals into being vaccinated, either through the law or through threatening them with the loss of their livelihood would represent a direct assault on the fundamental human right to make decisions about the medical procedures that are carried out on their body.

It is also clear that if employers decide to make it a requirement that employees undergo regular Covid testing, then the cost of this cannot be passed to the individual worker since this would in itself represent indirect coercion to be vaccinated.

In her press conference, the prime minister stated that once the Attorney General has presented his legal opinion, the government will consult with Bajans on how to proceed with regard to mandatory vaccination and testing. It is hoped that Bajans will take an active part in these consultations and vigorously defend their fundamental human right to be the ones who decide what happens to their bodies.

Reference

Harris, R., Hall, J., Zaidi, A., Andrews, N., Dunbar, K. and Dabrera, G. (2021) Impact of vaccination on household transmission of SARS-COV-2 in England, London, Public Health England.


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226 responses to “Covid 19 – Mandatory Vaccination”



  1. the first two lines of verse one says it all
    in any DISCUSSION THERE OUGHT TO BE POINTS PRESENTED ON BOTH SIDES WHEN ONE JOINS IN THE DISCUSSION, NEVER KNOWING HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.


  2. My diagnosis is Bajan intellect is poorly. John and GP 2 alleged Bajan scholars are sick in the head and need hospital forthwith.

    Learn medical Qigong
    Discover the wisdom of Tao Te Ching (Dao De Jing) to love yourself, others and the environment.

    Lift Chi Up
    and
    Pour Chi Down
    Method


  3. “…no one wants to hear vaccinated people are easily infected…..everyone has to consider taking a vaccine and need ALL THE INFORMATION they can get…regardless of who don’t want to hear it..”

    calm down love

    it’s a no brainer that a vaccine produced will not always be able to handle new shit that did not exist at the time as the past and present come before the future

    breathe in and out slow and deep to become less stressed and offset the Fight-or-Flight Response of the sympathetic nervous system that stimulates the adrenal glands, triggering the release of catecholamines (including adrenaline and noradrenalin)
    don’t get you knickers twisted and initiate the the parasympathetic system response to stress which is namely once the threat is over, cortisol levels decline and the parasympathetic nervous system slows the stress response by releasing hormones that relax the mind and body while inhibiting, or slowing, many of the high energy functions of the body.

    Light up a big head doob and sit down and relax splifically so you can meditate and contemplate to elevate your mind body and soul like a trooper or brigadier general in jah army


  4. IF YOU PUT A LINK IT DONT MEAN NUTTIN
    IF YOU DONT PUT A LINK YA WRONG

    BUT HERE GOS ANYWAY
    LOL CAUSE I DONT HAVE A TING TO PROVE OR DIS-PROVE OR UN-PROVE OR IM-PROVE LOL LOL

    This Is The COVID Hospital Data That The MSM Is Hiding From You!
    Uncategorized
    July 30, 2021Ronie

    The Biden administration and CDC Histrionics can’t take control of the high number of COVID-19 hospitalization according to data.

    What people don’t know is that the Biden administration is helping the CDC and Saint Fauci the Valiant in spreading fears to people by telling that the new COVID-19 variant is spreading a more deadly wave than the first.

    COVID-19 has a higher chance of survival rate considering that majority of the people in the population are healthy. They should focus on how to prevent potentially severe and lethal conditions. A new CDC study bears this out.

    The CDC released a journal in its Preventing Chronic Diseases Journal (July 2021 Volume 18, E66) a study with a large sample of Convid-19 hospitalizations (4.9 million admissions) from March 2020 – March 2021:

    Hospitalization Statistics

    ICU admissions were 46.2% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients. The volume of the patients hospitalized with comorbidities was 94.9%, with a death rate of 15.5%. So if you are healthy, there is little risk of hospitalization or even death.

    The risk of death while hospitalized was extremely low at 2.7% for patients with no comorbidities. The risk of death rises with each increment of conditions. Stratifying mortality rates for comorbidities for those with one condition, the rate is 5.2%, 2-5 conditions, the rate was 12.2%, 6-10 conditions were 18.7%, and over ten conditions were 21.6%. Below is a summary of the hospitalization data.

    The highest prevalence of underlying conditions associated with severe COVID-19 illness were hypertension, lipid metabolism disorders, obesity, diabetes complications, coronary atherosclerosis, and other heart diseases. The televised hospital discharge celebrations demonstrate many of the patients were morbidly obese.

    The health bureaucrats, until recently, claimed there weren’t a sufficient number of ventilators to intubate patients who couldn’t breathe. The overall intubation rate for hospitalized patients was 31.2%. The risk of being put on a ventilator rises with the number of comorbidities. Once a patient is on a ventilator, the survival rate appears to be abysmally low.

    Conclusion

    The healthcare bureaucrats failed miserably by not instituting a selective quarantine for those with comorbidities and adequately educating the general public. The promotion of the experimental mRNA antigen vaccine violates the informed consent process where the health care provider educates a patient about the risks, benefits, and alternatives of a given procedure or intervention.

    Increasing the immune system using D3 and C vitamins, Melatonin, and zinc was swept under the rug to promote the pharmaceutical industry’s experimental vaccine. Several re-purposed drugs like Hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc, Ivermectin, Remdesivir, and magnesium have proven effective in combating COVID-19 infections, alleviating suffering, and reducing hospitalizations and deaths. The last thing the medical-industrial complex wants is an informed public taking responsibility for their health.

    Despite being fully vaccinated, CDC mandated to wear a mask all the time because according to them vaccinations do not stop you from catching COVID or transmitting it. Ignorance of the traditional therapies will only lead to many diseases.

    These days, if you have not yet been vaccinated, then you’re immoral. People now no longer have the right to choose if they’ll take the vaccine or not because Biden’s administration mandated you to get the shot whether you agree or not.

  5. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    bet ya football lovers will cling to this….apparently everyone has some type of surge on their hands of varying sizes..

    I would urge Dr. St.John to push for a VARIETY of vaccines…people much prefer take what they WERE ADVISED BY THEIR DOCTORS that their bodies can better handle…

    no one cares how good Mia wants to look on the world stage to get credits and pats on the head…people want what is BEST for THEM and their families..

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/07/31/manu-preseason-game-cancelled-covid-cases/

    Manchester United’s pre-season friendly at Preston on Saturday was called off after a “small number of positive” Covid-19 cases were identified at the Premier League club.

    United drew 2-2 against Brentford on Wednesday and detected cases following routine testing of the first team.

    Individuals are now isolating pending the results of further tests.

    United say they have cancelled the game at Preston as a “precautionary measure based on Covid protocols”.


  6. “LOL CAUSE I DONT HAVE A TING TO PROVE OR DIS-PROVE OR UN-PROVE OR IM-PROVE LOL LOL”

    that is clever word play from a cut and paste cunt
    did you use black scissors ✂ or white scissors ✄
    to source your source to copy like an ignorant cunt bum boy rent boy
    when was the last time you had a rock solid erection or an original thought of your own old man


  7. I hope that most realize that much of the covid-19 discussion is just an extension of previous trump discussion.

    Some may have genuine objections, but some here (and they know who they are) are continuing the trump discussion. Don’t wait until they suggest drinking bleach …

  8. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Don’t wait until they suggest drinking bleach …”

    lol..


  9. Mandatory vaccination is not necessary. Employers/government should pay for vaccinations.

    ((I am not a lawyer, so how this can legally be done would need to be worked out) Employers should mandate that unvaccinated workers to undergo regular and scheduled testing at their own expense or stay at home (unpaid)


  10. Another right wing view
    Tucker Carlson has his say
    Xxxxx
    IMHO there are plenty truths in his opinion

    Xxcccxc

    So you got the vaccine because they told you to get it — or they forced you to get it — because as Joe Biden himself explained, it was your patriotic duty to get it to protect yourself and others. Good people do that.

    The only way we can stop the spread of this virus and return to normal life is by taking the vaccines. If you get the shot, you can have hotdogs on the Fourth of July. Remember when he told you that? So you’d got the shot.

    Now — surprise, surprise — they’re demanding that even after you got the shot, you wear a mask again, even when you’re outside.

    What’s going on here? Why are they doing this? There must be some reason for it. We’ve been wondering about it all week. Yesterday we asked the CDC to explain the reasoning behind it. They couldn’t tell us. Today they did. What an explanation. It turns out that the COVID vaccines — those wonder drugs that were absolutely perfect, more impressive than the moon landing, the drugs you were not allowed to question in any way — don’t actually work in the way they told us they did. The science is more complicated than we thought


  11. There is so much confusion meted out as informative information which makes one wonder where is the truth in all the varieties of info
    But then I am forced not to forget
    That God is not the author of confusion
    Hence I keep my six feet distance from all the noise makers making the rounds via new media and social platforms


  12. Not scabies. Shingles.


  13. @AC
    My dear Angie,
    As the virus mutates (changes), it is natural that the advice/instructions we are given will also change.

    Do not be mislead by the argument that these changes are wrong, but instead see them as a response to the results of ongoing research or as a greater understanding of this horrible enemy we are facing.

    Yes, changes are good. I repeat, the search for new vaccines is ongoing and as information is gathered there will be possible changes in recommendations from the authorities.

    I have always found it difficult to suppport your Covid-19 posts, but I remain your strong ally and friend.

    TheO.


  14. This is a good comment.


  15. “There is so much confusion meted out as informative information which makes one wonder where is the truth in all the varieties of info”

    You are no subject matter expert is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so let me break it down for you

    Truth is out there
    and is all around you

    Truth will always be the truth
    it never changes
    and always emerges
    it can not be buried
    or twisted like news

    when you always speak truth
    you recognise truth
    instinctually
    in your heart
    truth has a vibration
    gut instincts can feel

  16. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Not scabies. Shingles.”

    thanks Donna….i knew it started with an S but couldn’t remember and too lazy to look….someone i knew had it 6 decades after chicken pox infection and still could not wrap the horror around their minds..


  17. So we’re not these versions of information stapled within a construct that the mask would no longer be required for the purpose of wearing after being vaccinated
    Xxxxxxx
    Signed
    Listening and observing


  18. I has not past my limited intellect not to observe what science is attempting to do
    I also remember that in many of my postings that the biggest problem living within the control of the virus would be one of controlling of human behavior
    In my opinion we have reached that point and for which science has no answer


  19. The story is sickening…

    Two excerpts..
    1) “In their paper, the authors claim that four out of 100 patients died in their standard treatment group for mild and moderate Covid-19,” Lawrence said. “According to the original data, the number was 0, the same as the ivermectin treatment group. In their ivermectin treatment group for severe Covid-19, the authors claim two patients died, but the number in their raw data is four.”

    2) “Although science trends towards self-correction, something is clearly broken in a system that can allow a study as full of problems as the Elgazzar paper to run unchallenged for seven months,” he said.

    “Thousands of highly educated scientists, doctors, pharmacists, and at least four major medicines regulators missed a fraud so apparent that it might as well have come with a flashing neon sign. That this all happened amid an ongoing global health crisis of epic proportions is all the more terrifying.”


  20. There is a 99.999999999999999999% mortality rate from abortion.

    In contrast, COVID death rate is insignificant.


  21. @🐇
    You 0.0000000001 percenter 😀


  22. I tend to handle reality much better,,

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/new-deadlier-covid-variant-that-could-kill-one-in-three-a-realistic-possibility-sage-warns/ar-AAMMtIs?ocid=msedgntp

    “It set out measures the government should consider to combat this, including minimising the “introduction of new variants from other territories (to reduce risk of recombination between variants)”.”

    Meanwhile, SAGE said a scenario where a variant evades current vaccines because of a process known as “antigenic drift” is “almost certain”.

    It suggests that the UK needs to continue vaccinating vulnerable age groups “at regular periods with updated vaccines” to the dominant variants to increase their protection.

    Clinical epidemiologist Dr Deepti Gurdasani said the SAGE paper was a “stark warning”.

    Writing on Twitter, she said: “Given the impact Delta has already had, and in light of recent evidence from the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), we cannot afford any more new variants emerging – we need to take preventive action now.”

    She added that the SAGE paper “makes clear that the virus becoming less virulent is unlikely in the short term”.

    “So for all those who suggest that we should live with it, and it’ll become like seasonal coronaviruses and benign, doesn’t look like that’s likely to happen anytime soon,” Dr Gurdasani wrote,”

  23. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @TheOGazerts

    I’ve already spoken numerous times on the vaccines and all the questions I posited were mostly ignored or ridiculed. Most if not all I have surmised in past comments under the COVID Updates topic and other COVID post is largely coming to fruition.

    I have better thing to do on a lovely weekend that waste more time on the brainwashed by the medical fraternity people that flip flopping more times that someone walking down the road in a pair of flip flops.

    When you vaccinated people have your breakthrough infections, take these two sites (https://c19protocols.com/ and https://covexit.com/the-8th-day-therapy-for-covid-19/) to your doctor as these protocols from real doctors just might save your life.


  24. off topic… Nationnews posted that the US is starting proceedings to extradite former ICBL exec Ingrid Innes, of course talk is abounding that someone(s) are shaking in their boots.

    ..in her favor is the fact that she don’t have to keep her mouth shut about anything because she don’t have to return to Barbados …so she can’t be influenced by political bullying.

  25. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @WURA-War-on-U July 31, 2021 11:53 AM

    Why would this be news. If they trying to extradite Tasker, would they not also seek to extradite her as well.


  26. The virus flip flops. So must the medical professionals.

  27. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Why would this be news.”

    she is in another country and no one heard any updates about her, was hearing about Tasker a lot and he is a political soft target..


  28. Father forgive me, for I know what I do.
    Have a great day folks


  29. DonnaJuly 31, 2021 12:41 PM

    The virus flip flops. So must the medical professionals.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is a pretty big flip … or is it flop?

    Do you think this could be a variant which can jump from humans to pigs?

    https://www.breakingbelizenews.com/2021/07/30/african-swine-fever-detected-in-caricom-region-says-caribbean-health-officials/


  30. … and Donville off to jail.

    Should be out in time for elections in 2023.

  31. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, goes through in detail the COVID vaccines, medical misinformation, risks and treatment options. All the information everyone should be aware of in one interview.

    https://rumble.com/vkkriq-episode-1137-deep-dive-into-covid.html


  32. Interesting clip from the president of Kenya.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-58030423


  33. The people are revealing information as they get it.

    The vaccine still works to reduce serious illness.


  34. More links for Faucci in the Senate.


  35. Licks too!!


  36. Alot of people figured it out and got Anderson Pooper soiling his pants.


  37. Waru having trouble with the S afflictions eh??? My friend asked me what the problem was with my wife…I said something that starts with A Alzheimer’s, aids cant remember. My buddy said its extremely important I’ll tell you what to do do take her for a ride in the country and dump her off..if she finds her way home dont screw her.

  38. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Hope ya wife sees what you are posting and fix you..


  39. 😀
    For my best BU friend
    @Lawson
    ‘A man gets on a bus, and ends up sitting next to a very attractive nun. Enamored with her, he asks if he can have sex with her. Naturally, she says no, and gets off the bus. The man goes to the bus driver and asks him if he knows of a way for him to have sex with the nun.

    “Well,” says the bus driver, “every night at 8 o’clock, she goes to the cemetery to pray. If you dress up as God, I’m sure you could convince her to have sex with you.”

    The man decides to try it, and dresses up in his best God costume. At eight, he sees the nun and appears before her.

    “Oh, God!” she exclaims. “Take me with you!” The man tells the nun that she must first have sex with him to prove her loyalty. The nun says yes, but tells him she prefers anal sex. Before you know it, they’re getting down to it, having nasty, grunty, loud sex. After it’s over, the man pulls off his God disguise.

    “Ha, ha! I’m the man from the bus!”

    “Ha, ha!” says the nun, removing her costume. “I’m the bus driver!


  40. Wonderful Theo I like truth rather than fiction.
    Waru Lol


  41. Theo you never took that bus again …right


  42. Ratings for CNN etc are in the toilet.

    They need back Trump … baaaad.

  43. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Donna…as long as you stay as safe as you can, avoid people like the plague, literally, boost your immunity, no one should have stopped from December 2019, don’t catch the delta…which has made all the other variants obsolete, you should be fine….because you can still end up in the hospital if you do, and as someone said, QEH may be iffy these days…and they should know, they are there often.

    everyone will start running from the fallout and pointing fingers at each other, plausible deniability…


  44. WURA-WAR-on-U Avatar

    This is all anyone needs now…vaccine drama.

    “AstraZeneca partnered with Oxford University to build a highly successful coronavirus vaccine, which has been given to millions of people in the UK.

    Unlike some of its rivals, the company sold the jabs at cost-price making “no profit” from the transactions.

    In April the EU launched legal action against AstraZeneca, arguing it had failed to meet its contract for coronavirus vaccines.

    The British-Swedish company hit back, claiming the litigation is “without merit” and insisting they delivered to the EU “in line with our forecast”.

    Controversially the AstraZeneca vaccine came under repeated attack from senior European leaders, including French President Mr Macron.

    In March the French president falsely claimed the jab is “almost ineffective” in the over-65s.

    This caused fury in London, with British officials worrying senior EU figures were undermining public trust in the vaccine.”


  45. My then 11 year old son went to Dominica and on returning he found it funny to tell me Dominica had only one KFC.

    In rich USA and Europe a fast food joint is every 100 feet dishing out their unhealthy meals which comes with oversized potions complimented by sugary water.

    On the flipside Palm Oil and salt is the drug of the African continent where air pollution both man made and natural is the norm.

    How come Dominica a country with a high rate of centenarians have had no Covid19 deaths so far. My son at age 20 thinks it because the Dominican eat much healthier that Bajans the NCD capital of the Eastern Caribbean where over $800M goes to the toilet yearly.

    Perhaps, my son is on to something!

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