As the blogmaster is typing he is witnessing a scene in the US Capitol akin to what is associated in countries often described as banana republics. It is impossible to find the words to accurately describe events which have caused the ceremonial event of the Electoral College to be suspended as members scatter to preserve life and limb.
The USA is Burning
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They were looking for sedition charges since black John and GP posted over 2,000 dumbass comments on the Trump thread last year between the two of them, and i warned them somebody was going to get their balls caught in a vice…..turns out it will probably be hundreds of balls x2..
apparently all the idiots have now gone to the dark web because they’re sporting encripted message.
Facebook and Twitter the administrators make rules people agreed to them
There is no exception for Trump
Obama used both social platforms
He was not banned
How many of the 74 million voted Republican.
@Hal Austin “We are going down the wrong path when a private company such as Twitter can ban anyone from speaking out”
Nobody is stopping Donald Trump from speaking out.
He can always set up a soap box in front of the White Hose and speak out to his heart’s content.
Twitter, Facebook, CNN, other media places do not own him a platform. In fact so far as I understand they do not owe him anything at all.
Twitter can ban who the hell they like! Trump is not silenced. Did Twitter get his tongue?
I do not know what convoluted argument DPD is bringing.
All the same it is his ass that is in immediate danger, not mine.
wuhloss the fallout……😂😂🤣🤣
https://youtu.be/ecjPHGdKiUk
We don’t even need Netflix anymore……🤣🤣.
https://youtu.be/aTL1MfPzi8k
@Donna January 12, 2021 9:10 AM “Isn’t it contradictory for a black Bajan from The Ivy, living in LONDON and married to a white Brit to be so leery of multiculturalism????”
Probably afraid some of his own people from the Ivy will join him in London, perhaps some of his own children and grandchildren.
@ Mariposa
You cannot disfranchise his 74m voters, if you do we will get the sort of mob behaviour we had last Wednesday. It is one reason why I said elsewhere that we should discuss Trumpism.
This is one of the flaws in our democratic system. In little Barbados, people may support the DLP and others the BLP; although the BLP may get government by a statistically small number of votes, in a first past the post electoral system the DLP got none. It is a winner takes all system.
However, to equate that with the disenfranchisement of DLP supporters will be a serious mistake since it will invite rebellion. In any case, that is a different matter to a private company cutting off the President of the US from communicating through a popular vehicle with his supporters.
If Trump has committed a crime, then he should face the full power of the law. But in a democracy we do not want a billionaire businessman sitting in his mansion making decisions about who we should or should not read.
It is like newspaper editors deciding that black people had nothing of interest to say and marginalising them or the boss of a website deciding that for posting a contribution under the wrong topic deserves a ban.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely – whether presidential or social media.
Freedom of speech[2] is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. The term “freedom of expression” is sometimes used synonymously but includes any act of seeking, receiving, and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
Eleanor Roosevelt and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948)—Article 19 states that “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers”.[1]
Orator at Speakers’ Corner in London, 1974
Freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Article 19 of the UDHR states that “everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference” and “everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice”. The version of Article 19 in the ICCPR later amends this by stating that the exercise of these rights carries “special duties and responsibilities” and may “therefore be subject to certain restrictions” when necessary “[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others” or “[f]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals”.[3]
Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that “the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.”[4]
The idea of the “offense principle” is also used in the justification of speech limitations, describing the restriction on forms of expression deemed offensive to society, considering factors such as extent, duration, motives of the speaker, and ease with which it could be avoided.[4] With the evolution of the digital age, application of freedom of speech becomes more controversial as new means of communication and restrictions arise, for example the Golden Shield Project, an initiative by Chinese government’s Ministry of Public Security that filters potentially unfavourable data from foreign countries.
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Never mind the source is Wikipedia. Just read the law. Did harm come as a result of Donald Trump’s words? Is harm likely to occur again? Language is a form of communication. If you and I develop a secret code then the communication cannot be judged by normal interpretations but by what was meant. What did Donald Trump expect his crazed followers to glean from his words? What have some followers done in the past?
Many reports state that he was watching the action and enjoying it thoroughly, to the disgust of some of his aides who had to warn him of the legal exposure he might face. They had to beg him to call off his mob. He refused to move to call in reinforcements. There is also video which reveals the celebratory atmosphere among his family members in the room during the riots. That was HIS room! HE set the atmosphere!
All this is evidence that can be used to justify Twitter’s actions, not two isolated tweets.
Steupse! Who has the better lawyers – Trump or Twitter? As some of you like to say, “If past is prologue……”
Oh dear! I see Artax had already covered most of that.
@555dubstreet January 12, 2021 1:24 PM “…who thought he was a dangerous cunt and needed to be evicted from his seat.”
Correction: “…who thought he was a dangerous PRICK and needed to be evicted from his seat.”
Please don’t insult the female slang name for female pudenda by calling him a cunt.
Also, if the FBI issued, as we are learning, a great national security threat at the Capitol, would not Trump have been notified?
And what did he do? He gave them their “marching orders”.
More details about frantic calls from staff to Kushner and Kelly-Ann Conway to intercede to get him to call in the National Guard!
Steupse!
@Hal Austin January 12, 2021 2:51 PM “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely – whether presidential or social media.”
But nobody has absolute power over the President of the United States. How can Twitter or Facebook be more powerful that the man who is commander in chief of the most powerful armed force in all of human history?
Besides billionaire Trump has enough of his own personal funds to start his own media empire, should he choose to spend his OWN money that way.
Or he can stand on an old soap box in front of the White House and talk his talk.
When the abnormal becomes normal.
Prior to 2016, the most powerful man in the world would address and reassure the nation through a press conference.
After 2016, we saw the president lying in press conferences and cowardly attacking people in the middle of the night by tweets.
He can still hold press conferences, as many as he likes. Don’t confuse freedom of speech with freedom of tweets.
I like that last phrase.
😀Looks like trimp can win in SGN😀
CrusoeJanuary 12, 2021 2:43 AM
JohnJanuary 11, 2021 8:50 PM
You do know that no one here (or any rational people) take Limbaugh seriously?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
89 million follow him on Twitter!!
What’s 5 or so on BU???!!
@cuhdear,
I now see your comment. You are punching like a person who is 300 lbs. I hope that is not your weight.😀
Translation: punching well above your weight.
@ Miller
The guy is always writing about ‘truth,’ yet he does not adhere to its principles.
I’ll give you an example. A few weeks ago he made a snide remark, in reference to me, about being challenged for ‘saying’ the FRC is the disciplinary body for accountants in the UK.
On January 15, 2018 11:54 AM I wrote #: “The accounting profession has a Professional Code of Ethics or Code of Professional Conduct, which may have certain variations according to the accounting designation an individual pursues (e.g. the US CPA; Canada’s CGA or UK ACCA), but no significant differences. Included are guidelines on “Confidentiality” and disclosure of clients’ information to third parties.”
He responded with:
January 15, 2018 2:10 PM
The accounting profession has a Professional Code of Ethics or Code of Professional Conduct, which may have certain variations according to the accounting designation an individual pursues (e.g. the US CPA; Canada’s CGA or UK ACCA)…..(Quote)
“Wrong. In the UK ACCA is the qualifying body. The professional body is the Financial Reporting Council, I suggest you read its reports. I do not know anything about Canada. See the above quotes for the US oversight.
By the way, to be a profession there must be a code of ethics.”
Why would he state my comment was “WRONG,” but subsequently admitted, “……….to be a profession there must be a code of ethics,” and introduced the FRC, which was TOTALLY IRRELEVANT?
After which, he continued to make snide remarks about “an accountant, with a UK qualification, who does not know the disciplinary body for your profession in the UK.”
And, he displays blatant hypocrisy………..”That is the problem with BU, most people cannot tell the difference between truth and fiction..Some issues are so serious that we should stick to the truth, even if we are not familiar with it.”
… and 89 million for Rush means Trump got way more than 80 million votes!!
Thank you, Cuhdear Bajan. I do not use that word to describe male idiots. “Prick” is more appropriate.
Trump lives in an alternate reality in a parallel universe on the dark side of the moon where he calls media, fake news.
In Planet Trump the Civil Rights fights of 60’s never happened and Whites rule supreme and blacks still know their place.
Hal would be the first to be lynched for his chosen career in fake media.
Just like good old days when villages had picnics and took photos of black bodies swinging and Police joined in on the fun.
Killing was a buzz releasing souls into the universe.
Next Wednesday will be a blast when the Trumpers crash the inauguration party and march to Government offices with Guns to protest against 46th PotUS. Some are even saying it will be the bomb.
The Confederates want to kick off a Civil War rematch against the Union.
John January 12, 2021 3:54 PM
” and 89 million for Rush means Trump got way more than 80 million votes!!”(quote)
Bullshit….many people have SEVERAL accounts, as do various organizations and entities who cannot vote.
Dub you know the confederates were democrats right as were the kkk , Lincoln was republican
wuhloss..
https://youtu.be/IN8TRtPw2yk
Waru I will see your anderson cooper , don lemon and pete buttigug and raise you a jack nicholas, brett farvre and dana white
“… and 89 million for Rush means Trump got way more than 80 million votes!!”
it means your logic is fucked up dumb ass
twitter users around the world does not equal US voters does it think about it
Lawson…hope you are ok, you missed out tante Maxine….can’t leave out your femme preferee
@Rabbit
They don’t understand your fuzzy mathematics/logic
89M + 30M FB likes +3 Bajans=
119,000,003 votes for trimp.
Wait we did not add in parler, myspace aol, compuserve or prodigy…
I think you are on to something
Now that the FBI haa its sedition, conspiracy mojo going they may consider those on BU giving aid and comfort to the insurrectionists.
These will no doubt include Johnny de Knox, Georgie Porgy, others.
They may also consider deputizing a few to affect citizens arrests.
In these circumstances, we would suggest the kind of arrests, a rough arrest, as suggested by Trump.
Wherever ensconced, Johnny and GP should be expecting their brainless heads making a high-velocity contact with the door frame of a car quite soon. LOL.
Is the Johnny really that stupid??? Racist people all over the world follow Donald Trump on Twitter. And others do it for other reasons eg. just to know what he is saying.
“Now that the FBI haa its sedition, conspiracy mojo going they may consider those on BU giving aid and comfort to the insurrectionists.
These will no doubt include Johnny de Knox, Georgie Porgy, others.”
even better Prince Donald got clean away with 200 million of their dollars idiots that they are, i hoped John, GP and MoneyB sent him money too…all those fools he bilked are now looking at some good prison time and am sure he’ll tell them there are no bad prisons in the US…..🤣🤣 he don’t care if he gets impeached again and lose the 200K, he may still have the secret service to protect him from those…”white trash” who “look poor” and making him “look bad”..and get to keep the whole 200 million too……lol
@Pacha
So funny LOL
@Donna
Looks like the blogmaster can vote in the US by his logic, BU follows @TheRealDonaldTrump before his ass was fired LOL
Donna
Yes, they are!
Waru
We know the American system Even McConnell is now supporting impeachment.
And when empire comes down on you no amount of money will save yuh. 200MM could not even cover legal fees.
David
What else is there if not a bit of levity.
See us mekking these Trump arrests.
@Pacha
Unbelievable that McConnell is supporting impeachment in order to purge the party of the turd LOL.
“We know the American system Even McConnell is now supporting impeachment/”
he didn’t spend decades on top as senate leader because he’s a fool…,,he knows you dont buck the system that feeds you…
Prince Donald is now a liability…everyone is running to get out of his orbit..only fools sticking around to go to prison are the equivalent to Barbados’ yardfowls…..🤣🤣
Lawson you would pull something like this..
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-quebec-canada-woman-walks-husband-on-leash-to-get-around-curfew-20210112-2rl2w2aubvcmdpzmhn2qkbswji-story.html#nt=pf-single%20chain~top-right-chain~recommender~automated~2headline-stack~2RL2W2AUBVCMDPZMHN2QKBSWJI~2~4~1~1~art%20no
Pacha…the hammer.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-capitol-riot-no-fly-list-20210112-7awgmntlafdgzkn2b32beixfgi-story.html
David
Waru
There is an tectonic shift beginning on the R side.
The full weight of the federal government is about the blow Trump and his acolytes away.
And when the might of the feds comes knocking there can be little resistance by anyone.
It’s becoming pellucid that political death cometh.
@TheOGazerts January 12, 2021 3:54 PM @cuhdear, I now see your comment. You are punching like a person who is 300 lbs. I hope that is not your weight.”
More like 300 divided by 2
But thanks.
Adelson, Trump’s zionist, mega-donor, is dead. Trump will soon follow.
Good riddance.
Pachamama is having Her say as well.
“Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has cancelled a trip to Europe trip at the last minute.
Mr Pompeo had been due to fly out on Tuesday but Reuters reports that Luxembourg’s foreign minister and several top European Union officials have declined to meet with him.
Diplomats and people familiar with the matter confirmed the news to the wire service. The secretary was supposed to meet with his counterpart in Luxembourg before travelling on to Brussels.
The extraordinary snub to Washington comes just days after the storming of the Capitol by thousands of supporters of Donald Trump, an unprecedented attack on American democracy that stunned many world leaders and US allies.
Mr Pompeo, a close ally of the president, had sought to meet Jean Asselborn in Luxembourg, before meeting EU leaders and the bloc’s top diplomat in Brussels.”
Saw this on FB
Hey Donnie,
Obama won a second term,
was never impeached,
has a Nobel Peace Prize and
also has a twitter account.
At the same time Trump is killing everybody on death row by cutting legal corners, even in the dying days of his regime. Since July, Trump has done a raft of executions, even sick people.
@Donna, the convoluted argumentation you see is a speck in your eye …
The moot is very simple: if the man didnt break the law with his BS rah rah speech on Jan 6th and the days prior then we CANNOT just deny his right to speak that BS simply because we dont like it!
Whether or not any public business which offers its services freely to all who follow THEIR rules which in turn must follow constitutional and legislative regulations can ban the man is a legal battle he can initiate… basic understanding of the law suggests he has a winnable case.
Cut out the likability stuff … one does not have to like the idiot to defend his rights…. God forbid we treat him in the same feral, lawless way he treats us!
@Austin, I stand back from your response as I am confounded that you focus on the word “sedition” and not the complete idea of what was presented…. makes no sense to me so I dun wid u and dat.
@John, as @Artax says you simply provoke bcz u really cant be THAT stupid to offer that 80 mil followers on social media = 84 mil US voters… good lord, your HC bros here should dismiss u from the alumni post haste … that’s just INSANELY NONSENSICAL … so u must be joking!
But then again you also said that Limbaugh leaving Twitter was an entire additional value of incremental loss when added to Trump’s followers leaving… no reflection re the significant overlap of millions!
Do folks just ‘talk’ pure cow dung when their fingers hit on BU!
Oh and @David, @WARU said it perfectly: if McConnel does indeed vote to impeach it makes perfect sense to get rid of DJT.
The senator rode that man perfectly and as sharp as he is it’s now time to put down the old useless horse … NB his wife was the first (or 2nd dont remember) cabinet member to resign … they all got what they wanted and now is time to move on purposefully.
Only problem is : why signal that intention so early… THAT makes little sense currently… so there is something else bubbling nefariously.
I gone
No one wants their name tied to that level of criminality, sensible people know it was unnecessary, there are more than enuff problems to fix in the US, without this, no one needed it..
“Harvard University cut ties with a New York Republican congresswoman Tuesday over her comments supporting President Trump’s unfounded claims of election fraud.
The university removed U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik from a senior advisory committee at Harvard’s school of government after she refused to voluntarily resign, Douglas Elmendorf, dean of the Kennedy School, said in a statement.
“Elise has made public assertions about voter fraud in November’s presidential election that have no basis in evidence, and she has made public statements about court actions related to the election that are incorrect,” Elmendorf said.”
this is better than prime time:
Dr. Simone Gold told the Washington Post she indeed was the woman pictured on the Rotunda floor after it was overrun by a pro-Trump mob seeking to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election.
“I do regret being there,” Gold told WAPO, saying she’s now worried her presence during the illegal riot will distract from her work with her Fox News-friendly advocacy group, America’s Frontline Doctors.
Dr. Simone Gold
Dr. Simone Gold (Facebook)
Gold, 55, was one of the people pictured in an FBI bulletin issued Friday that sought to identify people who stormed the Capitol.
She rose to national prominence in July after she organized a press conference on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court assailing pandemic lockdowns and claiming “hydroxychloroquine works” in the treatment of COVID-19.
President Trump called hydroxychloroquine a possible “game changer” early in the pandemic, but evidence it’s a COVID cure never materialized.
The FDA revoked its emergency authorization in June, saying the drug could actually do more harm than good due to its “ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other potential serious side effects.”
As recently as Oct. 21, Gold said on Twitter that Americans “do not need to wait for a vaccine to begin safely and effectively treating” COVID-19.
“Hydroxychloroquine and other medications are cheap, safe and available NOW,” she wrote.
Gold told the Washington Post she worked as an emergency room physician for two hospitals at the time of her Supreme Court press conference. She was “promptly fired” after the event and has not worked as a doctor since, she said.
Speaking on Fox News over the summer, Gold said she had hired lawyer L. Lin Wood to defend her amid the backlash.
Wood, a prominent voice in QAnon conspiracy circles, was permanently banned from Twitter last week after claiming the election was rigged, filing frivolous lawsuits on Trump’s behalf and even claiming the Capitol siege was staged.
It wasn’t immediately clear Tuesday if Gold would ultimately face criminal charges.
At least 20 people already have been charged for their roles in the riot. Some are accused of joining the mob armed with weapons and bombs.
Pacha, this is the quiet riot, the take down:
“NYC seeks to cut contracts with Trump Organization, says Mayor de Blasio
By SHANT SHAHRIGIAN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
JAN 12, 2021 AT 4:34 PM
The city government is working to end contracts with Trump businesses, Mayor de Blasio said Tuesday, citing outrage over the commander-in-chief’s role sparking last week’s deadly siege of the U.S. Capitol.
“The president incited a rebellion against the United States government, a clearly unconstitutional act, and people died. That’s unforgivable,” Hizzoner said when asked about the contracts at a press conference.”
“FBI, DOJ promise 24/7 search for pro-Trump rioters at the Capitol, task force to focus on possible sedition
By LARRY MCSHANE
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
JAN 12, 2021 AT 5:07 PM
The federal probe of the unprecedented U.S. Capitol insurrection will include a strike force focused on whether pro-Trump rioters arrived in Washington intent on violent assault against the government, authorities said Tuesday.
“Their only marching orders from me are to build seditious and conspiracy charges related to the most heinous acts that occurred in the Capitol,” said Acting District of Columbia U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin, who tasked a team of senior national security prosecutors and public corruption prosecutors with the probe.
Sherwin said the nation will be “shocked by the egregious conduct” once all the facts emerge regarding the right-wing horde that descended on the building at the urging of President Trump. And he described the probe as the equivalent of a counterterrorism or counterintelligence investigation.
Officials promised a “24/7, full-bore” hunt to identify and arrest everyone involved in the rioting that went on unabated for hours. They also confirmed two live pipe bombs were planted near the Capitol during last Wednesday’s assault, with a $50,000 reward posted for information about the people responsible.”
Where is GP?