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Submitted by Dr. Kumar Mahabir

Barbados is located in the Caribbean near Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Martinique. It is 34 kilometres (21 miles) in length and up to 23 km (14 miles) in width covering an area of 432 km (167 square miles). The present population of Barbados is 287,000 persons (just more than a quarter-million people) based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

Five things that have made Barbados world famous: Rihanna, the international singer, songwriter, actress and designer, was born in Barbados; so too is Sir Garfield Sobers, the greatest cricket all-rounder of all time. And the Honourable Mia Mottley is the first female Prime Minister of Barbados. Barbados has also produced the oldest rum in the world from its Mount Gay Distillery. There are also its pristine, peaceful beaches.

Barbados has the head office of the Caribbean Examinations Council (CXC) which is under attack these days for its grading system. Prime Minister Mottley is also the Chair of CARICOM (the Caribbean Community) which played a critical role in restoring democracy to Guyana during the recounting of votes following the March 2020 elections.

The following are HIGHLIGHTS of an ICC ZOOM public meeting held recently (25/10/20) on the topic “The Indian community in Barbados: business, religion and race-relations.”The Pan-Caribbean meeting was hosted by the Indo-Caribbean Cultural Centre (ICC). The meeting was chaired by Sharlene Maharaj of Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) and moderated by Sadhana Mohan of Surniname.

The speakers where HAJJI SULEIMAN BULBULIA, Secretary of the Barbados Muslim Association and the Muslim Chaplain of the UWI, Cave Hill Campus; and SABIR NAKHUDA, author of the book Bengal to Barbados: A 100-year history of East Indians in Barbados (2013) extracts of which are reproduced below.The discussant was DR KUMAR MAHABIR, an anthropologist from T&T and an Organization of American States (OAS) Former Fellow.

Affectionately called “coolie-man”

East Indians (Indians) have helped shape the social, religious, cultural and economic landscape of Barbados. To understand these impacts, the focus must be on the itinerant traders (affectionately called “coolie-man”).  

For the itinerant trader, the main driver of undertaking an economic enterprise is to generate income. But his business had several unintended consequences, many of which were positive for the Barbadian society for over 100 years.

The “coolie-man” became more than a friendly trader in the neighbourhood; he became a member of the family, a counsellor and an advisor at times. The “coolie-man” in Barbados has many anecdotal stories (positive and negative) which have entered into folklore of the island and have been immortalized in local songs.

The experiences of those who benefited from access to goods on extremely favorable credit terms, at a time when buying cash was the only available option for the poor, is noteworthy. Credit to the average Barbadian was unheard of, and many residents had to struggle on the meagre earnings they received to get along as best as they could.  

In the Foreword to the book Bengal to Barbados, former Prime Minister of Barbados, Freundel Stuart, wrote: “… for many years, I experienced directly, the impact this important group made on the village in which I grew up in the parish of St. Philip. I saw these men alleviate the financial distress of many people who lived in Marchfield, St. Philip.

“They took care of back-to-school requirements for parents who could not afford to buy school uniforms by extending generous credit terms to them. At Christmas, the poorest households benefited from credit terms no less generous.”

Unlike the early Indians in Guyana, Trinidad & Tobago, St. Vincent, Grenada and other Caribbean Islands who went to work in the sugar plantations in the 1800s, Indian indentured labourers were not brought to Barbados. Those who came never intended to come to Barbados, but eventually ended up in Barbados and made the country their home.

The early Indians came from three different parts of India. The first Indian came to Barbados circa around 1910 from the Hooghly District in West Bengal: Bashart Ali Dewan initially went to Trinidad from India where his father-in-law was residing. He stayed there for a short while and then – for some unknown reason – moved to Barbados. Other Bengalis followed, and Bashart Ali Dewan and these pioneers stayed in the Bridgetown area of Barbados.

From inception, members of the Indian community have continued to practice their culture and religion. The Sindhi-Hindu community made part of their homes into mandirs [temple] until the opening of the first Hindu temple in Welches, St. Michael on the 22nd of October 1995.

The Muslim community continues to practice their faith individually and collectively. In the early days, the Friday jummah [congregational prayers] were performed at private homes at Wellington Street and Cheapside in the city. In 1951, the first masjid [mosque] was built in Kensington New Road.


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330 responses to “The Indian community in Barbados: business, religion and race-relations”


  1. @ Artax
    My apologies. The comment was not meant to imply, in any way , that you or anybody else said anything. When I said we I meant that as a people we seem to be more interested in who failed rather than who tried.
    I would not be surprised to know that there are successful micro and medium size business on the island. I have interest in three.
    Peace


  2. @Walter
    I was perplexed by your relating some comments to what happened in Germany etc. That’s why I particularly said, I did not read anything presented that would have caused any cataclysmic development.
    I was also baffled that you considered a rather pedestrian offer as a deep analysis of the Indian business people and the communities they served in rural Barbados. There was no difference in how they served other communities .
    We are seeking to glamorize this whole Indian commercial development. They came , they found a niche and they exploited it to the fullest and also exploited many who worked in their stores and so on.
    I am not saying that as citizens, they never contributed to charity or they never extended a helping hand to anybody but sometimes times I am amazed that we are so excessive in our praise of their business acumen.
    It’s the same way we tend to big up white business people who had head starts , were giving assistance by the banks , that were never extended to Blacks.
    They too are exploiting their workers up to this very minute by not paying in their NIS contributions that were deducted and refusing to pay workers their severance pay.
    I never said that you said anything , I said you were in bountiful praise of what was said.
    Peace


  3. @Walter

    You are welcome.


  4. @Hal Austin at 12:19 PM “By the way, the Oxford-educated Cameron Tudor, son of James A, ended his life getting food parcels. I have said this before and one person came on shouting she did not believe it.”

    I did not shout.

    I never ever shout.

    I simply said that if retired tradesmen and maids can buy enough adequate food from their pensions, so can retired long time MP’s and Cabinet members, especially those who have not had to spend any money raising large families as so many tradesmen and maids have done.

    In any event when Tudor died he was only 75, barely ten years a pensioner. When my own father died he was 20 years older than Tudor, had raised a large family, and inflation may well have eaten away some of the value of his pension yet he was dependent on anybody for food parcels.

    That is still the truth.

    I mean what is the point of graduating from Oxford and being paid a Cabinet Minister’s salary for many years if one cannot manage such a simple thing as providing food for oneself out of one’s pension in one’s [barely] old age?

    I have 3 siblings older than 75, none of course graduated from Oxford, nor were they ever paid Cabinet level salaries, yet none are dependent on food parcels.


  5. @John A at 1:47 pm “So here is the question for all wunna out there with wunna racist views. How come no black business man has done the same for young black guys wanting to start out?”

    If some of these same men do not trust the women wh love their children and raise them to adulthood, why would they trust anybody else?

    You will notice–or maybe you don’t because it is “hidden” from you that black women still keep su-sus/esusu/meeting turns/ box hands going. You will notice that we haven’t abandoned that ancient African tradition.

    Our mothers and grandmothers used meeting turns to send their sons [and daughters too] to “better” themselves in England and America and Canada, some of those sons denigrate we Bajans every single day.

    Some of us Bajan women here and abroad have assets worth hundreds of thousands, and i know of more than one rural working class Bajan gal who own income earning assets worth more than a million. And it all started with a meeting turn.

    I had a American friend who spent years explaining to me why meeting turns CANNOT work.

    Lolll!!!


  6. @Artax December 22, 2020 3:36 PM “Lloyd Alleyne’s Shamrock Trading is an excellent example. Here was a poor man who went from rearing animals and carpentry to opening what could be perhaps the first chain of small supermarkets in Barbados. I recall he had locations in Eagle Hall, Barbarees Hill, Baxter’s Road and Sweet Vale in St. George. BU’s older folk could probably remind the forum if there were other locations.”

    There was a Shamrock in Speightstown as well, right where Eddies is now, that is opposite the south gate of St. Peter’s parish church. I used to do Saturday shopping there for my mother when I was just a girl. I recall that it was always crowded, and that the prices were right for those raising large families.


  7. Competed successfully with Elmer’s which was owned by Elmer Jordan a white Bajan.


  8. William SkinnerDecember 22, 2020 11:10 PM

    “@Walter
    I was also baffled that you considered a rather pedestrian offer as a deep analysis of the Indian business people and the communities they served in rural Barbados.”

    William,
    Artax took time out to show us how our presence in the PSV sector, the car rental business, and the used car business has been diminished, whilst the Indians have made tremendous gains in these areas. He showed us how they are acquiring and accumulating properties once owned by blacks. He also showed us that the Indians are also making their presence felt in the wholesale, electronics, mobile phones, and even construction arenas.

    Based on his analysis, I was left with the feeling that the Indians were surging forward and clutching opportunities in many areas with some help from the Barbadian blacks, who were giving up control, only to be controlled in return.

    Artax finished his analysis by pointing out, that for Barbadian blacks, it is a tale of unrequited love.
    He writes:
    “how do they reward us for our years as being loyal customers who have contributed significantly to their accumulation of wealth?
    They exploit their Black employees; don’t support small or large Black businesses; their children are becoming doctors and lawyers to cater to their own.”

    You, in turn, wrote:
    “They came , they found a niche and they exploited it to the fullest and also exploited many who worked in their stores and so on.”
    It seems to me that your view converges with Artax’s view at that point.

    I appreciate Artax’s effort and viewed his analysis as deep and excellent. That is looking through my eyes. On the other hand, you saw the effort as merely pedestrian. We are neither right nor wrong. We are simply seeing Artax’s contribution from different perspectives.


  9. We will shut up if anybody here can tell the blog where in India can Bajans mobilize an enclave, corrupt customs officers, regularize a foreign religion, displace a business culture on a main shopping street, penetrate the elite institutions, look down on the majority population, and on and on.

    This is what an extreme miseducation has done. And Walter Blackman is the quintessential of that vicious system. We are willing to bet that he has no rasssoul money and being a good slave boy is for him the only way of being.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    HAVING DEALT WITH LOCAL INDIANS WITH KNOWN BUSINESSES WHERE $HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS AND GOODS CHANGED HANDS OVER A PERIOD IT IS OBVIOUS MANY PEOPLE DON’T HAVE A CLUE HOW THE INDIAN COMMUNITY OPERATES IN BIM.

    YES MANY ARE WILLING TO PUT IN LONG HOURS HOWEVER MOST ARE VERY VERY STREET SMART AND UNSCRUPULOUS WITH NO LIMITS TO INVOLVEMENT WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING MONEY WHILST HAVING A FRONT BUSINESS.

    HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE DRUG TRAFFICKING AND SMUGGLING OF GOODS.

    WHAT HELPS THEM IS THEIR SECRECY AND EXTREME LIMIT TO WHO THEY BRING INTO THEIR FOLD.

    THEY KNOW AMONG THEMSELVES WHO ARE THE BLACK CUSTOM OFFICERS TO BRIBE, THE POLICE HIERARCHY TO BRIBE AND WHEN CAUGHT UP IN THE COURT SYSTEM WHO TO PASS MONEY TO HAVE THEIR CASES AND EVIDENCE DISAPPEAR.

    IN THEIR MINDS THEIR IS NO LIMITATION ONLY PROGRESS AND MONEY MAKING ARE THE GOALS.

    THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE ON MOST BLACK BAJANS SUCCESS BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY AND NOT BEING TRAPPED IN THEIR MINDS BY FEAR OF WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK OR CARE.

    FOR THE MOST PART THEY MUST ALWAYS COME TO THE TOP IRREGARDLESS WHERE THEY START FROM AT THE BOTTOM.

    NOT BASHING THEM BUT THAT IS THEIR CULTURE WHETHER IN THE WEST OR ON THE 2 x 3 ISLAND.


  10. @David December 22, 2020 3:57 PM “Why was the credit union named Shamrock?”

    In Irish culture, and there are some Irish cultural influences in Barbados, a shamrock leaf is a symbol of good fortune.


  11. @Walter Blackman December 22, 2020 4:09 PM “try to make people who passed the 11+ exam feel ashamed and guilty for passing.”

    Don’t ever feel ashamed or guilty for ANYTHING that you have done or that you are doing well.

    Being a good actuary is a good thing. Nothing at all to be ashamed of.

    Today one of my kids passed by and told me “mum you have raised us well” I am telling you right now I feel like a million dollars. I don’t even need a Christmas present, because being a good parent is a very good thing.


  12. @ Walter
    “ Based on his analysis, I was left with the feeling that the Indians were surging forward and clutching opportunities in many areas with some help from the Barbadian blacks, who were giving up control, only to be controlled in return.“

    That is not a fear assessment of what happened . Many Blacks were driven out of those businesses by excessive in insurance rates and serious cash flow problems. Then we had hoteliers and other mega players conspiring against them . When I say pedestrian, I am actually referring to the over simplification of the obstacles that affect black businesses and these obstacles , eventually lead to stagnation and the owners are forced to sell. The term giving up is at best insensitive .
    It’s high time we start to analyze these issues from a broader context rather than assume, there is a level playing field.
    The fact is that without assistance and protection, small black businesses will simply fold especially those connected to sectors such sectors as tourism.
    The term pedestrian, I unreservedly withdraw , but I think we need to go beyond how we are analyzing the entire corporate structure of the country. Race, inherited wealth ,political skullduggery , and our relentless desire to literally laugh at and heap scorn on those who “ fail” are some of the problems we need to address.
    When looked at from a sociological point of view, without demeaning their achievements. the Indians like the whites and others , found perfect batting wickets.
    I read that Everton Weekes , once look at a well prepared wicket and asked: His do you get out here?
    Keep up the good work. Peace.
    Peace
    @ Artax
    I withdraw pedestrian. That description should not have been used, taking into consideration the fine rapport we have.
    Keep up the good work.
    Peace


  13. William Skinner
    December 22, 2020 11:10 PM

    “@Walter
    I was perplexed by your relating some comments to what happened in Germany etc. That’s why I particularly said, I did not read anything presented that would have caused any cataclysmic development.”

    William,
    Some of us are more perceptive than others. I recognized the DANGEROUS TYPE OF THINKING being presented. Some Jews saw what would have caused the cataclysmic development in Germany and gout out of the country early. Let us leave it at that.

    In the USA, Donald Trump, with over 70 million voters behind him, is claiming daily that black and brown people (minorities) should not be viewed as citizens, and therefore their votes should not be counted. Take away their votes, he screams, and everyone would see that I have won the presidential election by a landslide. To the white armed supremacists, he orders some chilling instructions: “Stand back and stand by. These minorities are responsible for my defeat and they are stopping us from making America great again”.

    I recognize the DANGEROUS TYPE OF THINKING.

    As a precaution, I advise you not to let your Barbadian passport get out of your sight for the time being.


  14. Should read: Everton Weekes once looked at a well prepared wicket and asked: How does anybody get out batting on this? My apologies.


  15. @ Walter
    “As a precaution, I advise you not to let your Barbadian passport get out of your sight for the time being.”

    Advice taken my Brother.
    Peace.


  16. *got (not gout)


  17. William Skinner
    December 23, 2020 12:33 AM

    “@ Walter
    Many Blacks were driven out of those businesses by excessive in insurance rates and serious cash flow problems. Then we had hoteliers and other mega players conspiring against them …….. these obstacles , eventually lead to stagnation and the owners are forced to sell. The term giving up is at best insensitive “.

    William,
    I understand the point you are making. We are dealing with a rather complex issue here and it would be an oversimplification of the facts, indeed a mistake, for the reader to leave the discussion with the belief that blacks are totally to blame for the loss of their businesses and properties. It is a valid point.

    We have to keep our comments short and palatable so it is difficult, most of the time, to tackle these complexities in one go. That is why it is so critically important to keep the discussion going in an intelligent and mature manner so that we can amplify some very important points which were only slightly brushed.

    Artax also made an observation similar to yours.
    He wrote:
    “I also hope you’ve noticed that while several Black owners of car rental agencies were gradually forced out of business through laws and high taxes, Indians now dominate that market. Notice how COVID-19 affected all the large car rental agencies to the extent the ones that did not go out of business, had to sell up to 80% of their fleet. The Indians are still surviving.”

    I read these comments with an open mind, and so far all of the contributions have served to enrich my understanding of the situation. I am confident that there are more insightful contributions to come.

    Thanks for the light which you have so far shone on this complicated issue, and as you would say: “keep up the good work.”


  18. Cuhdear BajanDecember 23, 2020 12:20 AM

    “@Walter Blackman
    Don’t ever feel ashamed or guilty for ANYTHING that you have done or that you are doing well.
    Being a good actuary is a good thing. Nothing at all to be ashamed of.”

    Cuhdear Bajan,
    Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it.

    PS: I seem to recall that, in a blog in the distant past, you stated that you studied English Literature at Advanced Level. If my memory serves me correctly, then we have something in common.


  19. @ Walter
    This happens in other areas as well. Some years ago , when the properties / homes in George Street and Belleville , were on the market, the Indians were right there with ready cash and other resources to buy them as well. We note that all of those areas are becoming commercial.
    They are extremely heavy into real estate and have a lot of rental properties. Their commercial reach is vast. Our children and grand children will be competing with them. We have to start thinking about how we are going to prepare them for the challenges ahead , otherwise what little gains we have made will disappear.


  20. “It’s the same way we tend to big up white business people who had head starts , were giving assistance by the banks , that were never extended to Blacks.
    They too are exploiting their workers up to this very minute by not paying in their NIS contributions that were deducted and refusing to pay workers their severance pay..”

    and always steal money and opportunites that rightfully belongs to Black people ably aided by the thieves and frauds in the parliament…they refuse to stop robbing Black people and reducing them to second class citizens, yall have a problem that needs fixing, get rid of your black face sellouts with the tainted self-hating mentalities and blighted/cursed wannabe slave master intentions..

    start keeping them in increments of 5 years ONLY until the nuisances of any election cycle gets the message that SELLING OUT BLACK PEOPLE AND STEALING THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS, MONEY, LAND AND OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE AWAY TO WHITES, INDIANS, SYRIANS ETC WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED.

    that’s the whole problem in Barbados in a nutshell.

    “HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE DRUG TRAFFICKING AND SMUGGLING OF GOODS.

    WHAT HELPS THEM IS THEIR SECRECY AND EXTREME LIMIT TO WHO THEY BRING INTO THEIR FOLD.

    THEY KNOW AMONG THEMSELVES WHO ARE THE BLACK CUSTOM OFFICERS TO BRIBE, THE POLICE HIERARCHY TO BRIBE AND WHEN CAUGHT UP IN THE COURT SYSTEM WHO TO PASS MONEY TO HAVE THEIR CASES AND EVIDENCE DISAPPEAR.”

    it’s long been established that they ALSO control the illegal cigarette trade from as far back as the 80s…the black faces in parliament helped them with that too, but should a black person dare try to sell one illegal cigarette, the police will be called…blame the losers and sellouts in the parliament for allowing all of this from the 60s, all of it needs to be exposed everywhere, along with all the black and minority culprits INVOLVED until it ends….let the whole world see them all for what they really are….don’t give any of them any breathing space, make them world famous so they don’t go into any other black countries with their criminality, they certainly can’t go into any white countries without serving prison time when caught.


  21. Cuhdear Bajan December 23, 2020 12:14 AM

    @David December 22, 2020 3:57 PM “Why was the credit union named Shamrock?”

    In Irish culture, and there are some Irish cultural influences in Barbados, a shamrock leaf is a symbol of good fortune.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just to remind you what I ‘told’ David. The Shamrock Co-op Credit Union Ltd. was established in 1947 by the St. Patrick’s Roman Catholic Church. The shamrock symbolizes Saint Patrick the patron saint of the Ireland.

    St. Patrick —–> shamrock = Shamrock Credit Union.

    However, you maybe correct that the credit union was named based on “Irish cultural influences in Barbados.”


  22. The newly found expert on international jewry has always been an idiot, on all things.

    This Walter ManBlack rehearses a dated narrative but ignores a number of essential counter narratives.

    Not a mention of the Palestinians. Are they not Semetic as well? Are they not even more Semetic? Does our support for them make us so qualified?

    What about the instrumental use of anti- Semetism to label people like UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and others as anti- semetic.

    What about the Zionist attempt to prevent even peaceful resistance via BDS. Is that not fascist?

    Or the internal contradictions where American Jews like Kushner, Adelson actually supports the American Hitler of our times.

    Walter ManBlack knows nothing. Has always been an asshole. And so destined will he be.

    These 11 plus slave boys are worthy of death


  23. It seems BBD is going through it’s Idi Amin stage 50 years later and it’s ending of apartheid 30 years later.
    Slavery fucked them over. Psychological wrecks.


  24. At the center of how the Indians operate compare to Blacks is that they are always willing to pool resources to achieve the objective. They have no problem winning favours by dishing out gifts which are readily accepted by Blacks in position of authority.


  25. Some important questions need to be asked of this government, including Professor Reparations.

    How was it so easy to develop a blueprint for the brand new Caribbean Civilization of Slave Societies, the delusion and fantasy rampaging through yall corrupt minds, while salivating for 50 billion dollars in reparations, from Europe, off the backs of our destroyed ancestors, which everyone now knows the resources will first have to be stolen from Africa, land of our murdered and enslaved ancestors to achieve yall big dreams……but it’s so difficult for the same drafters of the blueprint to develop one that would:

    dismantle and remove Elizabeth’s ever present colonial slave system PERMANENTLY out of Barbados, setting an example for other Caribbean islands to follow, since yall dropped her monarchy, what are yall still doing clinging to her slave system;
    dismantle and remove PERMANENTLY, all the structures of racism, slavery, apartheid and exploitation directed ONLY at the black majority, that’s still in place and operational;
    PERMANENTLY remove all slave laws and slave codes off Barbados’ statute books to free the African population from mental and physical slavery;

    yall can scratch Africa being robbed of 50 billion dollars in resources so that yall can pretend to be top slaves with colonial yokes still around ya necks, can’t understand why yall can’t feel those yokes choking ya….ya must have become so immune to being top slaves, the conduit for black destruction, that ya can’t feel a thing.

    Shame on you for disrespecting and insulting the memories of our ancestors, not one white, indian, syrian etc would allow you sellouts to do that to their ancestors, first and foremost because they know yall can’t be trusted because of the decades ya spent giddily selling out ya OWN BLACK PEOPLE and the memories of ya own ancestors….. you have overstepped all boundaries of common decency.

    Pacha…these believe that they will get away with all of the above, they’re so damn wrong, it will shock them to find out just how wrong.


  26. UK’s reparations for Slavery were discussed in June 2020 and companies with ties are pledging payments to BAME groups and investing in their own diversity programs. Any calls for Barbados to act as receivers of their funds is probably too late to make now.


  27. That’s more than likely their last resort, targeting companies, universities etc that were heavily invested and involved in the slave trade, to pay reparations, but it will mostly come in the form of programs for current and future generations, and not the billions and billions of dollars that they are about to keel over trying to get their slimy, thieving hands on to once again rob and disenfranchise the descendants of the enslaved…..or the very first thing they would’ve said is that reparations in the form of cash would be going DIRECTLY IN THE HANDS OF EVERY DESCENDANT…but they will never want to do that, they would continue to keep the black population at the bottom and next thing ya hear all the money will be right back in the hands of minority thieves who would be the ones contracted to build these ugly ass, sick buildings with the names of the repulsive top colonial slaves attached.

    never gonna happen.


  28. The mindset of slavers and colonialists never gave an inch of ground back for moral or righteous reasons such as equality, it was because they were forced to concede territories of dominion due to leverage and revolution in fights for rights by the oppressed.
    Socialism is a threat to Capitalism and Warmongers who will undermine political efforts with dark arts.


  29. Bajans got the Talkin Blues
    w/ Version with Daddy I Roy
    Yeah! Oh, yeah! Now!
    Cold ground was my bed last night (bed last night)
    And rock was my pillow, too (doo-oo-oo-oo-oo!)
    Cold ground was my bed last night (bed last night)
    And rock was my pillow, too yeah!
    I’m saying: talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues)
    Talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues)
    They say your feet is just too big for your shoes (shoe-oo-oo-oo-oo)
    Talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues), talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues)
    Your feet is just too big for your shoes (shoe-oo-oo-oo-oo)
    Yeah, I’ve been down on the rock for so long, (so long)
    I seem to wear a permanent screw (screw-oo-oo-oo-oo)
    I’ve been down on the rock for so long (so long)
    I seem to wear a permanent screw (screw-oo-oo-oo-oo)
    But-a I I’m gonna stare in the sun
    Let the rays shine in my eyes
    I I’m a gonna take a just-a one step more
    Cause I feel like bombin’ a church
    Now now that you know that the preacher is lyin’
    So who’s gonna stay at home
    When when the freedom fighters are fighting?
    Talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues), talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues)
    They say your feet is just too big for your shoes, woe-oh-oh-oh!
    Talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues), keep on talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues)
    They say you hear what they say
    Didn’t you hear?
    Cold ground was my bed (bed last night)
    Rockstone rockstone rockstone was my pillow
    Cold ground was my bed last night (bed last night)
    And rock was my pillow, too
    Sayin’ (talkin’ blues, talkin’ blues)
    I seem to wear a permanent screw permanent screw
    Talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues), talkin’ blues (talkin’ blues)
    Feet is just too big for your shoes (Shoe-oo-oo-oo-oo)



  30. Milluh aka Proctor
    Here we go with the fall back card when cornered–Hyatt. Now I am also a pimp.
    Remember I said few weeks ago the last hotel I had any association with had a price tag of US$1.3B, well since then I can say the latest involves the renovation of a lovely historic building. Still not Maloney’s Hyatt. My point stands–all talk and make believe stories typical of Salemites.🤣🤣🤣



  31. @ Mr. Skinner

    A personal mate of mine always used to say, “there are four things we can never take back, a spent arrow, a spoken word, a past life and a wasted opportunity.” If you did not intend to write “pedestrian,” you wouldn’t have written it. However, I’m not offended. Heck, I’ve been called a ‘slimy pig.’

    RE: “Based on his analysis, I was left with the feeling that the Indians were surging forward and clutching opportunities in many areas with some help from the Barbadian blacks, who were giving up control, only to be controlled in return.”

    Mr. Skinner, it’s clear you’re out of touch with today’s realities.

    Let me give you ONE example. How do you think Indians are able to own so much property in Barbados, if not “WITH SOME HELP FROM THE BARBADIAN BLACKS?”

    Indians have cash and access to cash. Similarly to any other jurisdiction, corruption is rife in Barbados…… ‘money talks, bullshit walks.’ You can get anything done in Barbados for a ‘small fee.’ For a ‘small fee,’ Indians were able to know which properties they could pay off land tax arrears to subsequently own them, or, obtain properties by underhand methods.

    RE: “Many Blacks were driven out of those businesses by excessive in insurance rates and serious cash flow problems. Then we had hoteliers and other mega players conspiring against them.”

    If you’re ‘talking’ about the car rental business, Let us discuss.

    RE: “I am actually referring to the over simplification of the obstacles that affect black businesses and these obstacles , eventually lead to stagnation and the owners are forced to sell.”

    What gives you the authority to ASSUME I don’t know anything about “the obstacles that affect Black businesses?” It is because I don’t come to BU with a lot of fancy sounding fluff and historical nonsense to impress people?

    You mentioned “serious cash flow problems.” What in your opinion causes “cash flow problems?”

    RE: “It’s high time we start to analyze these issues from a broader context rather than assume, there is a level playing field.”

    I CHALLENGE you to START the analysis.

    The problem is many of you guys are always calling on us to discuss or analyse issues, but you NEVER INITIATE the discussion or analysis. You PREFER to wait until someone offers an opinion, only to dismiss it with some silly snide remark.

    NB: My use the words ‘YOU or ‘YOURS’ is not a DIRECT reference to you, Mr. Skinner.


  32. Artax
    “For a ‘small fee,’ Indians were able to know which properties they could pay off land tax arrears to subsequently own them”

    Do expand on this for my enlightenment. Thanks.


  33. “Do expand on this for my enlightenment. Thanks.”

    why, ya planning to illegally import some thieving ass indians so you can sell out and rob black people too…yall are a triology of sellouts ya know, fowl slaves too…we know many of them came in on boats from other island and swam to shore ….and only got citizenship after, usually using a counsin’s identity….all of that would appeal to yardfowls, getting a small fee for selling out.


  34. If you love Israel Vibration say Forward

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-0LAZLzTuU


  35. Enuff December 23, 2020 8:24 AM #: “Do expand on this for my enlightenment. Thanks.”

    @ Enuff

    No, I will not.


  36. @ William

    When you say high cost like insurance and such like driving the black owners out, would not the same Indians buying these businesses be faced with these same obstacles? Surely the factors or obstacles that the seller endures the buyer will have to as well.


  37. It seems like Team Black have got no love for Indians they live with and they are too fuck


  38. Artax – Ok.

    Salemite – You need help. #fraud


  39. And that’s why yall are going to have to answer for:

    1 BILLION dollars in VAT that minorities TIEF…and Mia wrote off as if it’s hers
    5 BILLION dollars the tax agency says some shannigans took place and now the money is unacconted for
    ?? possibly BILLIONS missing from the pension fund

    but am the fraud no one is looking for because i stole from the Black population…and helped others tief too.

    ah could really use help with all the photos to take and comments to post when things really hit the fan.


  40. To restate the point and revert to the substantive issue, Indians pool resources, they collect cash, they win favours from those in authority by distributing cash gifts. They influence extend to all key government agencies like Immigration, BRA formerly Inland Revenue, Land Registry etc including POLITICIANS and prominent private sector leader officials.


  41. @ BAJE
    Your comments on December 23, 2020 12:08 AM are concise and accurate. Too bad that your words will fall on death ears.

    I find it sad that we eulogise these people so called business prowess whilst running down our own people.

    We have a city in the UK called Leicester. It was where a large number of Uganda and Kenyan Asians settled after they were – correctly – kicked out of Eastern Africa. The myth was that they came armed “only” with a suitcase and the clothes that they stood in. The reality was that these people ran both economies whilst mal-treating their black African workforce. A large number of them were extremely wealthy and within a couple of decades after living in the UK they became movers and shakers within the UK.

    Leicester has become synonymous for corrupt Asian practices. They run the city and have set up a large number of factories where they exploit their own people. Check the link below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/28/revealed-auditors-raised-minimum-wage-red-flags-at-boohoo-factories

    The Asian community has also become notorious for car insurance fraud over a number of years. They hatched a plan where members of their families and friends would arrange car crashes amongst themselves. The “victims” would them claim insurance against injuries such as whiplash. Who do you think paid for this racket? You guessed it – it was the poor motorist whose annual premiums would rise year after year.

    They are also infamous for VAT fraud. To be blunt with you they are an unethical people whose influence and hegemony over the island should be neutralised.


  42. @Walter
    I took a shortcut and sent it directly to BU.
    I used my real information, do do not share without removing the email address.
    Hope that works.
    Othneil Theophilus Gazerts😀


  43. David

    who is the instigator of corrupted bribes

    the giver or the reciever


  44. If wunnAh bawling now, just wait till the numbs get to 80,000+


  45. @Kiki

    BOTH are culpable as Hants often points out. The minorities know our weaknesses as Blacks for things. We see it with the Auditor’s General Reports as well. While the focus is on malfeasance in the public sector, we have to ask who benefits from the corrupt behaviour in government- private players of course.

    We like to promote the blame game, grow the blame culture. We have to take a step forward to examine underlying issues and remedial work required. If we do not it continues.


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