If the late great Gladston Holder were alive he would take the opportunity to remind us that it does not matter who is elected to the White House, it the wealthiest families in the USA where the power is located- the Vanderbilts, Rockefellers et al. That said many will agree party colours aside, Trump’s legacy will be remembered as being one of the most bigoted and divisive.
Let it be no secret this blogmaster cannot wait to see the back of the man. He has disgraced the office of president of the USA and by extension the human race.
Discuss for 2 marks.
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you may not know , or understand, but 2 Peter 3 speaks particularly to scoffers of your ignorant ilk concerning the Rapture of the Church thus:-
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
@Lyall, I appreciate your explanation of the necessity to carefully analyze human behaviour as “[o]ne cannot be absolutely certain of how populations and even individuals will react to situations or stimuli.”
Yet I contend that VP Pence has only ONE viable option on Jan 6: to simply gavel the congressional session to order and affirm the results.
To do anything else is to defy the law but more importantly any other act by him to contort his ceremonial act is futile …
@King_David. Don’t you ever read instructions
SHUT
EM
DOWN
There is a Civil War / RƎVOLUTION brewing which you are propagating for clicks.
Old Dirty Bastards like @Porgie_Georgie and @Knox_John don’t give a fuck as they are about to die soon and want an apocalypse for the end of days when AntiChrist makes their moves for Satan to Takeover My Fathers’ Mansions in the Kingdom Heaven and defeat God and turn the days into permanent night.
I dialled 911 a long time ago
Don’t you see how late they’re reactin’
They only come and they come when they wanna
So get the morgue truck and embalm the goner
They don’t care ’cause they stay paid anyway
They teach ya like an ace they can’t be betrayed
I know you stumble with no use people
If your life is on the line then you’re dead today
Late comers with the late comin’ stretcher
That’s a body bag in disguise y’all, I betcha
I call ’em body snatchers ’cause they come to fetch ya?
With an autopsy ambulance just to dissect ya
They are the kings ’cause they swing amputation
Lose your arms, your legs to their miscalculation
I can prove it to you watch the rotation
It all adds up to a funky situation
I wait for respect
check one
hit the deck
the man of the hour
committing soul power
for once I got to say
shut ’em down on the regular
causing mass hysteria
in your area
kicking it for my man Chuck D
Down with PE
On the remix
honey on the flicks
So check it
Before when I step down
in your town
you know
I got to
SHUT EM DOWN
Mix – Shut Em Down
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@ de pedantic DribblerJanuary 1, 2021 10:46 AM
“Yet I contend that VP Pence has only ONE viable option on Jan 6: to simply gavel the congressional session to order and affirm the results.”
To do anything else is to defy the law but more importantly any other act by him to contort his ceremonial act is futile…”
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Any other ‘contrary’ act of open support for the ‘insanity’ of Trump will only serve to reinforce his idiocy and will certainly jeopardize in a big way his plans of running for the Presidency in 2024 against the appointed but still very vulnerable VP Harris.
Even the eponymous devoutly loyal character Sancho Panza would not even attempt to cross that Rubicon of tilting windmills to support a fast waning madman still pretending to blow his trumpet like some Joshua of antiquity.
The outgoing VP Pence has the ‘golden’ opportunity of brushing away from his hair ambition that fly- an omen of survival through change (metamorphosis)- by dumping the politically burdensome baggage called Ex-Pres. Trump.
The Clash
London Calling
I would much rather have a “BU” thread debating merits of legendary singers like Nina Simone versus Billie Holiday
or the old BU chestnut Robert Nesta Marley versus Winston Hubert McIntosh versus Neville O’Riley Livingston aka Bob Peter and Bunny of the Wailers
Recommended 2021 watch list
What Happened, Miss Simone?
The Netflix documentary detailed the tortured life of the musical genius Nina Simone
Meanwhile, here is a stellar presentation of the stars above (excluding Billie) free from public domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl1R2de_qiQ&list=PLo5KN6HwJRSnE1GPmcH6hYC96hFujmSO5
dpD
While i agree that there is a small probability (< 0.01 percent) that Pence will stick with Trump’s foolishness, it is clear that it is extremely unlikely that he will do so. It is not in America’s best interests that a coup should happen, especially one fuelled only by the intemperate false claims of a madman and his equally mad followers. What is really disturbing is that so many Republicans seem to be willing to follow Trump over an unmistakeable cliff with no visible parachutes.
A federal judge in Texas has dismissed a long-shot lawsuit by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.) that sought to overturn the presidential election, saying neither the congressman nor his allies have legal standing to pursue the case.
The judge’s Friday night ruling tosses out what many election law experts considered a far-fetched theory to challenge the formal mechanism by which President-elect Joe Biden will be affirmed as the winner of the race for president.
U.S. District Judge Jeremy D. Kernodle issued an order dismissing the case because, he found, neither Gohmert nor his fellow plaintiffs have a sufficient legal stake in the process to justify the lawsuit. Kernodle was nominated to the federal bench by Trump.
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Gohmert et al a bunch of circus clowns performing for one man and the judge who threw out the lawsuit was appointed by Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/gohmert-court-filing-claims-pence-is-not-a-glorified-envelope-opener/2021/01/01/eeb6b222-4c51-11eb-839a-cf4ba7b7c48c_story.html
Not again!
What a maroon!
That’s all folks!
I remember when I used to say ‘unable’ to contribute’, especially to trimp posts.
Guess what!
Unable to contribute. Enjoy the year
The ninth Day of Christmas.
Way back in September, 2020, I came across this article!!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/28/how-the-house-could-decide-the-presidential-election-electoral-college-tie-contingent-election/?sh=d2114bd1bb6e
It begun thusly.
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Donald Trump floated the possibility over the weekend that the House will ultimately decide the presidential election in the event of an Electoral College tie, making newly relevant provisions outlined in the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution that haven’t been used since the 19th century.
A 269-269 Electoral College tie or other dispute that prevents the determination of a clear winner of the presidential election would result in a contingent election, in which it would be decided by the House of Representatives, while the vice presidential race is decided by the Senate, the 12th Amendment stipulates.
While each senator gets a vote for the vice president, the House vote is determined by state delegation rather than individual lawmaker—so each state, from Alaska’s one delegate to Texas’ 36 delegates, all only get one vote each.
Democrats have a majority in the House with individual lawmakers, but Republicans hold the majority of state delegations: 26 states have a GOP majority, 22 states have a Democratic majority, while there’s a tie in Pennsylvania and the Michigan delegation has seven Democrats, six Republicans and Independent Rep. Justin Amash.”
Pence doesn’t have to do a thing.
Once there is a dispute that prevents the determination of a clear winner a CONTINGENT ELECTION is triggered.
It boils down to what happens on the day.
That day happens to fall on the Feast of Epiphany.
It “celebrates the revelation of God incarnate as Jesus Christ.
In Western Christianity, the feast commemorates principally the visit of the Magi to the Christ Child, and thus Jesus’ physical manifestation to the Gentiles.”
It sure sounds as though the pieces are in place for a dispute to take place on 6th January and the outcome will determine who will be President.
The problem is that even if Biden happens to survive the 6th, he will remain under a cloud of fraud which can be exposed any time after that date, up to the 20th January and beyond.
… and that has nothing to do with his Chinese business dealings.
It is amazing the Democrats have let this charade go this far.
… and then there is the issue of his dementia!!
The decision allows Pence to say on the 6th I’ve seen enough to know that the process in these 6 states is fraudulent and unconstitutional!!
As a member of the Senate, I have been briefed by the DNI.
I am going to relieve my fellow members of voting and take the responsibility for not submitting the afflicted ballots to be counted.
The grounds for my decision are founded in the DNI report.
It would be left to some plaintiffs who have a sufficient legal stake in the process to justify the lawsuit to step forward and challenge the decision of the VP and the grounds on which it was made.
Once the grounds are sound, then it would be difficult for any judge, Trump appointed or not, to overturn the decision.
Plus, courts have shown they do not want to be involved in election politics!!
In theory, Pence could do something, but be could also leave it to the members to expose themselves!!
DavidJanuary 2, 2021 5:15 AM
Another black man shot dead by cops
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How many have been shot dead by other black men in Chicago alone?
How is the case against the four officers going?
We don’t hear nothing about it these days.
Wait for it!
George Floyd died by his own hand of a fentanyl overdose.
If the authorities want to get adventurous they could always play the COVID card, or the heart disease card.
His lungs were full of fluid and in the last moments of his life when he should have been taking himself to hospital, he was passing counterfeit money in a store and involving the police.
The clock ran out on him because of the choices he made .. and he was free to make them.
Steupe
Another view about what could happen on 6th January!!
No one knows!!!
Murders up 50% in Chicago.
Opioid deaths up too … and “COVID-19” as well!
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shootings-2020-shooting-crime-stats-murders/9250374/
“Our officers have also been subject to violent crime themselves, as shots fired at CPD officers are up 558% since 2015. Since Jan. 1, 2020, 79 officers were shot at in 2020, with 10 officers having been struck by bullets.”
@David, we have to be able o distinguish between a Black man killed by cops during an intervention of an alleged criminal act where they were allegedly also shot at and cases like George Floyd or Tamir Rice or Philando Castile and too Breanna Taylor!
These matters CANNOT be conflated to appear in any way similar… when cops are ‘justified’ in using lethal force we must reasonably accept that and praise their actions.
When they act recklessly and negligently and kill they must be treated like the depraved animals they became at that moment: indicted, charged and convicted!
@Dee Word
Yes
There is no doubt what will happen in the US congress on Jan 6th. NONE.
The elections will NOT be overturned.
There will be acts that will delay the process and which will also cause an ‘anarchy of protests’ … none of that will delay or overturn the verdict of the US electorate.
The contingency election gambit is an utter nonsense because there is NO dispute re the election results from the states…. All the alternative electors selected were done ILLEGALLY thus there is nothing to change to.
What we are seeing is the complete destruction of US democracy by wanton selfishness … how that eventually plays out on US streets is certainly unknown but in the Congress and law courts the results are certain.
HYPOCRISY & DOUBLE STANDARDS THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED ……..LOL
Democrats objected to election results in 2000, 2004, and 2016
It is no surprise that many think that only President Trump and Republicans object to “democratic” elections, but the truth is that Democrats object to presidential elections every time a Republican wins.
Democrats objected in the Constitutionally mandated joint session of Congress to certify the election in 2000 and 2004 when George W. Bush won. They also objected when Donald Trump won in 2016.
Democrat candidate Al Gore’s objections to the 2000 results went all the way to the Supreme Court. Democrats did not view their objections in the joint session as “undemocratic” or a danger to the US election system.
And yet, as Republicans ramp up their efforts to object on January 6th to battleground state electors, the Democrats, pretending they never challenge election results, are screaming “conspiracy” and “undemocratic,” fantasy, etc.
The effort by the sitting President of the United States to overturn the results is patently undemocratic. The effort by others to amplify and burnish his ludicrous claims of fraud is equally revolting. This is America. We have elections. We have results. We make arguments based on the fact and reason—not conspiracy and fantasy.
Democratic Senator Chris Von Hollen called Senator Josh Hawley’s commitment to object on Jan. 6th a “reckless stunt,” among other things. But in 2005, when fellow Democrats objected to Bush’s win, he praised them as “public servants.”
Republicans need to remind Democrats of their own arguments for questioning elections as January 6th draws nigh. Republicans can quote Democrats like Von Hollen, who warned of voting problems in 2005:
“As Americans, we should all be troubled by reports of voting problems in many parts of the country. I have been particularly concerned about the lack of a verifiable paper record in connection with electronic voting systems.
The double standard is clear, and Republicans must fight back. Questioning election integrity is not a conspiracy, it is something that should lead to investigations and corrections.
LET THE IMPLOSION BEGIN
Pity Joe Biden. He is the dog that finally caught the bus and he is soon to be political roadkill. While he celebrates his victory in the Electoral College, powerful forces already are engaged to doom him and his presidency. His two central problems are that he has set the wrong expectations and that his policies will not work in the current domestic and international political, economic and military environment.
The only message in his “I’m-not-Trump” political campaign was that President Trump made a mess of domestic and foreign policy and that Biden would fix all of that. The deadly trap is that Trump did very well on many key measures and Biden inevitably will do much worse, creating a failed Biden presidency.
His Day One issue of COVID-19 already is a loser. Researchers developed vaccines in record time, under Trump’s direction, and are rolling them out. The complex issue of distribution now goes to Biden. Any significant number of deaths among the vulnerable communities of nursing homes, the elderly in general, minorities, and those with pre-existing conditions will fall solely on Biden’s team. Similarly, sustained economic damage resulting from lockdowns will fall on Biden and Democratic officials.
The other Day One issue is Biden’s budget. He has proposed tax increases that will affect all income groups, with a disproportionate impact on high-income earners. Compounding that increase will be the “hidden tax” of an inevitable increase in inflation from the multitrillion-dollar COVID-19 relief bills. These combined tax increases will trigger investment capital flight, much as they did under former President Obama. The inflation will drive up both interest rates and unemployment, and increase the wealth gap in spite of Biden’s tax policies.
Unfortunately, the huge COVID-19 spending and inflation preclude the Fed from the zero-interest rate policies that Janet Yellen used to float the Obama economy when she served as Fed chief. The bottom line is that there is no budget or monetary policy solution that drives real economic growth. Cuts in national defense spending are inevitable, but even weakened national security cannot solve the budget problem. America has spent the milk money.
Trump delivered spectacular growth to the economy, record private-sector jobs and record low unemployment for Blacks, Hispanics and women. Real wages rose under Trump and the wealth gap got smaller. Even though the market has roared back after the COVID-19 hit and lockdowns, it will be impossible to come near Trump’s record on any measure. Biden’s tax policies and softened trade stance will make the situation dramatically worse. There will not be enough money even for the traditional Obama/Democratic “solution” of creating public works jobs to fudge the unemployment figures.
And no, the Green New Deal will not create enough “clean energy jobs” to offset this economic mess or decline in the oil and gas sectors. The possibility of serious economic collapse is very real for Biden and his team. And it is all on Biden — it has nothing to do with Trump, who was spectacularly successful in economic policy, helping all Americans.
Biden also will be forced to disappoint the progressive, radical left of the Democratic Party. The handwriting is on the wall with his Cabinet and staff appointments, but it will be crystal clear in the budget. There is simply not money for radical/subsidized transition of America’s energy sector, huge new health care spending, or increased “social justice” programs (beyond the gigantic set of programs that already exist) or reparations.
Similarly, Biden will be forced to cut defense spending, probably shocking the wide set of defense contractors, left-leaning military/intelligence officers, and neocons who supported his campaign.
Unfortunately, our international adversaries know all of this and have run the numbers. They know that Biden’s self-defeating economic policies, combined with his — and his major Wall Street backers’ — tilt toward China and a weakened military, will lead to a constriction of American influence in Asia, the Middle East and elsewhere. Trump strengthened the U.S. economy and the military, constrained China, prevented North Korea from testing new nuclear weapons, slowed Iran’s nuclear program and terrorism, supported peace initiatives for Israel, restrained Russian expansion, strengthened NATO, discouraged Russia from using Venezuela as a forward nuclear base, created strategic energy independence (with record low carbon emissions) — i.e., made the world safer for America and democracies.
Biden’s return to bureaucratic diplomatic channels, destruction of energy independence, and weakened military will make the world dramatically more dangerous for America.
Our enemies will test Biden early and firmly. China will up the pressure on the South China Sea and Taiwan. Biden’s Wall Street backers will urge him to show patience with China to sustain their economic interests. Frankly, I’d guess the over/under on America’s softening support for Taiwan and reducing forces in the South China Sea to be two years. The same can be said for Russian expansion in Ukraine or the Baltics. With Biden’s charm offensive to our European Union allies, Russian incursions will be met with a weaker NATO and calls for “diplomacy,” much the same way Europeans sat back, restrained the U.S., and watched systematic genocide in Bosnia and Herzegovina until the U.S. finally acted (“under the United Nations flag”) to stop it.
So, as Biden takes office, Trump’s documented record in domestic and foreign policy creates a clear scale for direct comparison. Unfortunately for the country, Biden appears destined to fall far short.
AFTER KING JOSIAH THERE WAS BABYLON
AFTER TRUMP THERE WILL BE IMPLOSION=> ONE WORLD GOVERNMEMT AND CHAOS=>RISE OF ANTICHRIST
SEEMS THAT THE WRITING IS CLEARLY ON THE WALL
TOO SWEET!
If Pence chooses the Republican slate of electors in the 7 states the Democrats will be the ones who have to object and provide a member of the senate and house to support the objection.
The objection will be to replace the Republican slate with the Democrat one which is riddled with fraud.
I would imagine that any congressman/woman or any senator would realise instantly that this is all that will be remembered of their voting records!!
Pence will have put them into an invidious position, both Republicans and Democrats.
It would be more likely to see Democrats breaking ranks than Republicans in this instance.
In which case it is more likely to see Trump win the Electoral College vote and be the next President!!
If he does it the other way and leaves it to the Republicans to object, Biden will probably win.
One thing is sure and undisputable as I have repeatedly said.
It ain’t over till the Fat Lady sings!!
She will sing if Trump wins on the 6th.
She won’t if Biden wins because 180 million eligible voters believe there has been fraud.
Steupse and steupse. Time soon come and John Knox will then be a certified looney.
Senator Sasse’s is on record in that he has not met a single Republican congressman who personally believes that the election was fraudulent (he didn’t say whether he has met any Bajan cultists).
This is how January 6th will play out, Pence has one job and that is to count or announce the electoral college votes, if he could change the outcome why didn’t that occur to Gore when there were only 537 votes in Florida between him and G W Bush. The circus clowns in the House will object (there is a report that there are 140 of them) and it will go to the Senate where Hawley he of Presidential ambitions will object. Hawley is no fool he knows that there is money in them thar republican pockets and is already fund raising on his stance (much like Trump raised funds on the “fraudulent” election) There are no fools like republican fools who are anxious to part with their money. Hawley is also getting the jump on people like Cruz who had the inside track to 2024 in recruiting Trump supporters, but Cruz is not standing idly by he has issued a statement requesting an audit of the results in what he terms “disputed” states (BTW I seem to remember audits being completed in some states, but these later day theatrics take the place of Hamilton which is no longer on stage due to the pandemic. With all of that going on who cares about the people who are dropping like flies as victims of coronavirus.
Meanwhile, the “stand back and stand by” crowd of incels having heard the clarion call will descend on Washington to try to wreak havoc on the city but despite the tales told by idiots full of sound and fury signifying nothing Trump will be heading to Miralago where he can pout at Melania’s renovations.
If there is one good thing that came out of 2020, it is Trump’s defeat at the polls, good riddance to bad rubbish
@David, I’ll address this to you as Blogmasster moderator: your stellar posters continue to pervert Bajan commonsense with daily interpretations that defy reason and logic. Or in local patios: dey does talk a barifllle of wet cowdung!
Is is absurd, inaccurate and simply ridiculous to compare previous Dem congressional attacks of presidential elections to this current sedition….
It’s exhausting and really laughable to refute the claims one by one so a quick overview remark….
In ALL those instances the Dems indicated some specificity to their claims which had LITTLE or nothing to do with alleged fraud (Sen Boxer for example challenged the Bush Ohoo result about VOTER SUPPRESSION) but more IMPORTANYLY the losing candidate did NOT give ANY CREDENCE to false claims of fraud or even publicized the allegations.
[So much so that although Gore RIGHTLY fought his recount/hanging chads case to SCOTUS, he NEVER gave public voice to any claims that the election was FRAUDULENTLY stolen as this malfeasor has. NEVER. Yes he was upset and thought a recount might prove his success … but that was not this. And of course HE gaveled Bush to victory without a whimper].
That comparison above is garbage … GIGO!
2.GIGO³… “If Pence chooses the Republican slate of electors in the 7 states…”
That is a NONSENSE.
There are NO LEGAL Republican electors from which to choose in states which have certified for Biden.
That is utter stupidity that contravenes EVER law stipulating the electoral college process.
I will channel @Lyall here: how can a group of people attempt to subvert the constitution with utter lawlessness and constitutional treachery and then expect to govern under the pretence of legal bonafides.
This is utter madness!
I gone.
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Their votes are not needed.
GP don’t know Shit from Shinola
meaning he is ignorant
about God and Trump and Prophecy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abWFNDOM7iA
how can a group of people attempt to subvert the constitution with utter lawlessness and constitutional treachery BY SYTEMATICALLY SEEKING TO STEAL AN ELECTION L and then expect to govern under the pretence of legal bonafides. This is utter madness!
How can a Doctor talk so much shit
he must follow the Devil
and be from Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ2dUbf1IiQ
Some Bajans too stupid tho. Or are they brain dead.
RE Some Bajans too stupid tho. Or are they brain dead.
THAT IS VERY VERY OBVIOUS FROM READING BU
WE PRETEND TO BE SO RIGHTEOUS AND MORAL AND WE SIT AND ENDORSE ALL WHAT THE MEDIA, THE TECH GIANTS DID TO SUPRESS INFORMATION IN THE ELECTION CYCLE
WE KNOW THAT IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE LECTION WAS STOLEN BUT WE DISREGARD THE EVIDENCE AND BELIEVE THAT CORRUPT JUDGES WHO THROW OUT CASES WITH OUT HEARING THE EVIDENCE TO BE PRESENTED IN EVERY CASE ARE HONEST
ALL THE EXPERTS AND ALL THE EYE WITNESSES TO THE FRAUD THAT OCCURED ARE LIARS AND WRONG.
HILARIOUS
Some Bajans too stupid tho. AND they ARE INDEED brain dead AND BETZPAENIC TOO.
NOW WE ARE READY TO SING ” THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD REJOICES NOW, HILARITER, HILARITER”
I AM READY JUST TO SING ONLY HILARITER, HILARITER”
FOR SOON IT WILL BE MARANATHA MARANATHA. AND THAT IS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED
GPJanuary 2, 2021 5:30 PM
how can a group of people attempt to subvert the constitution with utter lawlessness and constitutional treachery BY SYTEMATICALLY SEEKING TO STEAL AN ELECTION L and then expect to govern under the pretence of legal bonafides. This is utter madness!
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Junior, Sarge
You all just can’t see the game unfolding.
Here is a simple way to address the madness.
Pence has 57(?) slates of electors from 50 states.
He can chose only 50 slates to open and count.
Assume the DNI has real hard evidence that the elections in 7 states were fraudulent and subject to foreign interference,
Ratcliffe has given enough of a glimpse to suggest the evidence exists.
Assume the DNI has briefed Congress.
Each member, including Pence then knows the score at 1:00pm on Wednesday!!
If Pence choses the 7 alternates to open then it is up to the Democrats to object.
But, why would he even choose the 7 alternates?
Because the evidence of fraud is palpable and he like the other members of Congress will have viewed the evidence the DNI has.
He will know, like the other members of congress that the 7 slates supplied for Biden are based on fraud and foreign interference.
It is then up to the Democrats to object to or agree with his choice.
There are rules about how the objection is done.
Once they follow the rules and force a debate it is theoretically possible they will get the Biden slate opened and counted and the alternate one set aside.
Their problem now becomes how can they seek to have fraudulent electoral ballots counted as legal votes?!!
… with perhaps 180 million Americans (their own constituents) believing some kind of fraud happened.
Political suicide!!
It is the same for the Republican House members.
They can’t desert the 7 alternate slates of electors for 7 that they know are based on fraud.
The most the two sets of politicians can do is agree not to count the 14 slates of electors from the 7 states and walk away with their heads held high congratulating one another they did the right thing!!
No one will get the 270 votes required.
That will trigger a CONTINGENT ELECTION which Trump should win, unless as I have said many times before his party betrays him!
GP is so fucking stupid.. he thinks..
His God sent Trump to be King of Ameri caca.. and his demise losing a 2nd term means the beginning of the end times..
I bullshit you not
that is one fucked up sad crazy old geezer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfZemziSXGw
I would most certainly advise John Knox and Dr. Wacko to seek therapy
Why are all these senators and congressmen/women coming forward?
Because they like their constituents believe the elections were fraudulent!!
Constituents of any given politician are both Democrat and Republican.
So, the same pressures Ted Cruz and other Republican politicians face are faced by Democrat politicians.
Californian republican voters are going to pressurize their Democrat representatives to act the same way as they would if they were in a state with Republican representatives.
Same for Democrat voters in California if they have seen the light.
Both sets of politicians are getting an earful.
I think if Pence took the alternate slates 0n the 6th and left it to the Democrats to object it would put the cat among the pigeons more emphatically than if he took the Biden slate and let the Republicans do the objecting.
Now, if you put into the mix the hard evidence of fraud it makes it impossible for politicians to claim ignorance!!!
Both sets have their necks out!
JohnJanuary 2, 2021 7:39 PM
GPJanuary 2, 2021 5:30 PM
how can a group of people attempt to subvert the constitution with utter lawlessness and constitutional treachery BY SYTEMATICALLY SEEKING TO STEAL AN ELECTION and then expect to govern under the pretence of legal bonafides. This is utter madness!
Do you realise that the group attempting to subvert the constitution is none other than the republican lemmings who have made a serious miscalculation that Trump’s lies will once more win the day or at least leave him standing to harrass the republicans who can evaluate the truth?
All the provable facts in this charade will show that Trump’s claims totally fit his MO of the last 5 years. Bare lies!
The argument is being made that millions of people BELIEVE there was fraud and thus the election muat be fraudalent …
That’s a BS argument … people call it a fallacy!
Millions also believed that the 2016 inauguration crowd was the biggest ever … that was BS too.
Way back ‘when’ millions believed that there was an alien invasion based on a radio spoof… that too was wonderous BS.
Perceptions and emotions can be easily affected by repetitive verbal and visual messaging and a lie can easily be accepted as fact !
This is readily know in psychology based on well documented occurrences over our life time… thus for this ‘fellow’ to boast of the millions who believe there is fraud despite the dismissal and refutation of all the contrived evidence by the ENTIRE legal system is utter garbage .
But alas that perception can be a person’s reality so regardless of the FACTS that new reality prevails.
Trump has won that game and thus we all are the losers for it.
Madness continues.
Quote: “Do you realise that the group attempting to subvert the constitution is none other than the republican lemmings who have made a serious miscalculation that Trump’s lies will once more win the day…”
Yes @Lyall, he and his acolytes herr absolutely realize that.
1.In 2016 they said there was no election interference (or fraud) to help candidate Trump. All reports of the direct and provable evidence of that interference was deemed a hoax.
They lied and knew then that they had to spin a narrative in this election cycle to put that fraud spotlight on the Dems .
2.They (Trump specifically) created an election commission under a Mr Kobach in 2017… its alias was the Voter Fraud Commission, and it set out to prove Trump’s claims that millions had fraudently voted which contributed to him losing the popular vote.
Yet, with the full power of the FBI, Cyber Security Office, Justice Dept, Homeland Security and various Republican ran state agencies not ONE incidence of massive fraud was DISCOVERED.
Not ONE. And the ridiculous lie of illegal votes by millions was revealed to all.
3.Despite all that here we are with the SAME playbook … again his congressional fanatics have asked for the voters’ rolls from each contested state … the very thing (voters’ roll) refused by almost EVERY STATE when the commission requested same…. because that is PRIVEDGED, PRIVATE data.
Same nonsense and yet an entire congressional farce will be played out in several days.
Thus I suggest to you sir that we have already lost the game … yes the results will be affirmed for Biden but the fact that those comprehensive lies of which you speak have gotten Trump this far clearly suggests that more will get him further along.
Thus we are inherently doomed … I dont have the doc doomsday insight but when a pathological liar can prevail to the scale as this one has we have to accept that life is ‘a-changing’ too drastically to prevent grave seismic repercussions!
They know this and are planning for it.
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That’s quite true, I believe. American is fried one way or the other.
“Lying Ted Cruz” is now being touted as the Knight on a White Horse!
John Knox truly has no shame.
At least Mitch McConnell aka The Grim Reaper does not try to hide his depravity.
Such reptiles as Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz are pathetic. They go any way the wind blows.
Mike Pence also better watch he does not split himself in half trying to straddle the fence.
All but Mitch, who has managed to get exactly what he wanted out of his bargain with the devil, all of them eyeing a 2024 run and playing to the looney base.
But unfortunately for Mitch things have now gone further than even he anticipated. He may retain power in the Senate and he may have his conservative judges in place to rule in favour of big business…. but he can no longer control the monster he fed.
America is one big banana republic. Biden cannot repair the damage. He gon dead an lef it so.
GP and John Boy are singing out of tune for the Trump Choir and still believe he is a Sex God and not a perverted old man.
The Blessed Biden Choir are waiting in the wings to sing like Aretha Frankin in heaven above with pure niceness and out sing the 45th PotUS who has been accused of allegedly being a sexual predator and a tax avoider big time on multiple counts in courts of law in multiple pending cases.
“Inside Story”
No one really knew him like I did,
He taught me everything I know
No one really knew him like I did,
While he starts playing the piano,
was a preacher,
Every night at church we had to go,
Brother always playing on the organ,
While Mother standing so low,
Saints are complaining,
Saints are complaining,
Oh lord my God
Some times I wander
Oh lord my God
Consider what you will
Inside story (x3)
Last years glory
Inside story (x4)
How great thought art?
How great the art?
How great his art
His art
Oh lord my God
Some times I wander
Oh lord my God
Consider what you will
His art
Your art
My art
His art
Your art
My art.
Grace Jones”
Devil In My Life
THIS IS Barbados Underground
THIS IS – Google Search
THIS IS – youtube
THIS IS DUB
THIS IS
THIS IS Grace Jones Lyrics
This is my voice
My weapon of choice
This is life
This is life
This is plate
This is a cup
This is a story I didn’t make up
This is a girl lost in the woods
Some kind of wagon from some other ‘hood
This is a voice
These are the hands
This is technology
Mixed with the band
Are you going into the light
Are you free of fear today
When you lie down to sleep do you kind of float away
This is life
This is life
Most of my crimes are of optimism
40 thousand volts of recognition
They tried to strip me of dignity
But I still have tenacity
These are the words I didn’t invent
Only an attempt to say what I meant
This is the paper
This is the pen
This is my weapon
A means to an end
Are you going into the desert
You’re out of control of your fate
There are no warriors without a war
So get ahead before it’s too late
This is life (ya’ll)
Lay down your spear
Let go your fear
Far becomes near
Oh Lord
This is life (hey!)
This is the tree
The Buddha slept under
These are the clouds
This is our thunder
This is what makes me look up and wonder
Into the eye of the wind
Through the rain
On to the plain
This is what I’m focused on
This is my head on straight
This is the harness
This is the bait
This is me
I’m flying again
This is a lawyer
Professional liar
There, Taking
Igniting the fire
This is the key
This is the door
Imagine the view from the basement floor
Now you’re going into the desert
You’re out of control of your fate
Are you a slave in a chain of command
Serving up another man’s head
This is life
Lay down your spear
Let go your fear
Far becomes near
Look out
This is life
Are you going into the light
Are you freeing your fear today
When you lie down to sleep
Do you kind of float away
This is depression
It comes when you’re blocking
This is expression
It comes when your rocking
This is life
This is (ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
This is (ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
This is (ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
This is (ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
This is (ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
This is (ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
When you lie down to sleep
Do you kind of float away
(This is a plate, this is a cup, this is a story, this is a story I didn’t make up)
When you lie down to sleep
Do you kind of float away
(This is a plate, this is a cup, this is a story I didn’t make up)
This is the world still healing
This is man that’s feeling
This is the world still turning
This is the rage still burning
This is the man not learning
This is life
For those of you who are visual learners😊
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