2020 US Presidential Election

If the late great Gladston Holder were alive he would take the opportunity to remind us that it does not matter who is elected to the White House, it the wealthiest families in the USA where the power is located- the Vanderbilts, Rockefellers et al. That said many will agree party colours aside, Trump’s legacy will be remembered as being one of the most bigoted and divisive.

Let it be no secret this blogmaster cannot wait to see the back of the man. He has disgraced the office of president of the USA and by extension the human race.

Discuss for 2 marks.

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  • “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

    Giuliani is yelling

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  • Remember when the state of Georgia charged a black woman with multiple felonies for assisting a first time voter?
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    In a blatant attempt to intimidate minority voters in rural Georgia, Olivia Coley Pearson, the first black woman to be elected city commissioner of Douglas, Georgia, was charged with—and eventually acquitted of—multiple felonies for simply assisting a first-time voter in 2012.
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    So when is it going to lay charges against Lindsey Graham for asking the Secretary of sate to throw out legitimate ballots?

    https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/voting-rights/human-rights-hero–olivia-coley-pearson/

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  • @John
    “America will solve the mess …. in theory.

    It isn’t a shitehole country, but it is on the point of becoming one”.

    You are now beginning to get it. Why did it take so long? Your guy is a major screw-up. Hopefully, Biden can delay the decline.

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  • SargeantNovember 19, 2020 8:13 PM

    “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

    Giuliani is yelling

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    It isn’t only Giuliani the Democrats need to worry about, the real threat is a lady named Sydney Powell.

    Then there is Lin Wood etc etc etc

    It is possible all will fail but not if what they are saying is true.

    One of the things they said today is that the Dominion Software execs are shutting shop and running which if true says all that is needed to be said.

    Do we hear any Dominion execs standing behind their product?

    Then there is the poll that suggests that 44% of the electorate thinks Trump should not concede, of these 12% say he should not concede under any circumstance the rest feel he should only concede if he can’t deliver the goods.

    Worse for the Democrats, 70% of the Republican voters believe the election was stolen!!

    My gut is Trump got 55 to 60% of the popular vote.

    Lin Wood figures it is over 70%.

    That means any where from 80 to over 100 million voted for Trump.

    America is not divided 50/50.

    There is a clear and significant majority that supports Trump and that majority feels the election was stolen.

    America did not repudiate Trump, it fastened on to him.

    Trump appears to have won in a landslide and the algorithms could not handle the size of the number of voters who voted for trump.

    Trump also appears to have blown up the computers!!

    The Constitution has a solution, whether the election gets there is worth the wait to see.

    It will be historic ….. but then Trump is historic.

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  • More about Lindsey Graham
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    Since narrowly losing Georgia to Joe Biden, President Donald Trump has promoted baseless claims of voter fraud in a desperate effort to overturn the results of the election. So far, however, the only individual credibly accused of a fraudulent effort to steal the election is South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham. On Monday, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger—who, like Graham, is a Republican—told the Washington Post that Graham asked him if he could throw out all mail ballots from counties with a high rate of signature mismatch. Raffensperger later clarified that he believed Graham wanted his office to throw out valid, legally cast ballots. The senator has contested this account

    To understand why Graham’s alleged conduct was criminal, we have to look at what, exactly, he asked Raffensperger to do. He says Graham wanted him to toss out thousands of perfectly valid mail ballots, omitting them from the official count, because they were mailed from a county with unusually high rates of signature mismatch. (That means the signature on the ballot envelope doesn’t match the signature on file.) Signature mismatch disproportionately affects racial minorities, who lean Democratic overall, and Georgia is required to let voters cure a mismatched signature under a federal court order.

    Had Raffensperger followed through with this request, he would’ve run afoul of several state laws. In Georgia, it is a crime for anyone, including election officials, to destroy a ballot. It is also a crime for anyone to falsify any records or documents used in connection with an election, or to place any false entries in such records. Another law explicitly criminalizes such conduct by elected officials, prohibiting the falsification of any document related to their public office.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/lindsey-graham-brad-raffensperger-georgia-election-fraud.html

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  • Worth a listen

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  • Sydney Powell?
    Why even Republican Joni Ernst speaking in the National Review are outraged by her statement and the National Review used o be the bible for conservative politicians.
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    Senator Joni Ernst (R., Iowa) slammed allegations by Trump campaign legal counsel Sydney Powell on Thursday that Democratic and Republican politicians may have paid to change the general-election results.

    “That is an offensive comment,” Senator Ernst said on the Guy Benson Show. “For those of us that do stand up and represent our state in a dignified manner, we believe in the honesty, we believe in the integrity of our election system.”
    Ernst added, “I do believe that if there is fraud out there, it should be brought to the courts’ attention. . . . I think all of us agree on that. But to insinuate that Republican and Democratic candidates paid to throw off this election, I think is absolutely outrageous.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ernst-slams-powells-absolutely-outrageous-allegation-that-candidates-paid-to-skew-election-results/

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  • Sydney Powell don’t mek sport!!

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  • Sarge

    It is called the swamp!!

    That’s what Trump is there for so whoever in the swamp, Democrat or Republican, will try to defeat him.

    Simple fact of life.

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  • Sounds like somebodies going get lock up!!

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  • @John
    Weren’t you the body language guy? What do you think of Rudy’s melting down before our eyes? He wasn’t melting? His hair colour is fake like his boss’s?

    When this is finished there will be plenty of ambulances for Rudy to chase if he isn’t prosecuted for being an unregistered foreign lobbyist.

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  • Rudy’s purpose is to provoke!!!

    He is good at it.

    Runs interference.

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  • I love when his eyes open wide!!!

    … or he shakes his head!!

    He is a having fun.

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  • Rudy is a boss actor.

    It is so obvious but people fall for it because they can’t believe he is serious and want to know more.

    They get suckered, he captivates them.

    It is impossible not like him and enjoy his antics.

    Entertainer par excellence but Trump is in a class of his own.

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/10/rudy-giuliani-facial-expressions-erin-moos-pkg-vpx.cnn

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  • Did you notice the difference in demeanor between he and Sydney Powell?

    That is one serious lady!!

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  • Arguably one of the most charismatic and popular presidents of the USA is being interviewed right now on MSNBC- we give you Barack Obama.

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  • Extremely boring showman, all form and no substance!!

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  • Excellent what he is doing to inspire Black and minority kids.

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  • All form, no substance

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  • Various conflicting opinions!!

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  • 10 years ago

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  • Google youtube obama blacks and see what you find.

    I was amazed.

    You are out of touch!!!

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  • Losing in the courts for lack of evidence and now using the powers of his office to personally intervene in his own election.

    The fact that you and the misnamed Critical Analyzer live in Barbados is frightening. My only consolation is that there aren’t that many of you.

    And to think some people on BU entertain you but want us to throw out all Muslims! I shudder to think what you would do to us if you could!

    Cultists! Dangerous cultists!

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  • Then there is this.

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  • Sounds like the vote switching been going on for a while!!

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/romney-votes-switched-obama/

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  • Obvious question given the results of googling “youtube blacks obama”.

    If black people dislike Obama so much, how come his margin was 91% in 2008 and 88% in 2012?

    In 2004, the Democrat margin among the Black population was 77%.

    Suddenly in 2008, because we are told of his immense appeal, the voter turnout among Blacks soared and the margin increased by double digits!!!

    The Hispanic and Asian margins also increased by double digits.

    Was it that the Dominion systems were making their presence felt?

    Did Obama become president through fraud?

    I always wondered what it was about HBO that people found so appealing!!

    He seemed so completely lacking in substance to me.

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  • JUST IN: After a statewide audit, Georgia election officials have confirmed President-elect Biden's victory over President Trump https://t.co/aReuY9s9d2— CNN (@CNN) November 20, 2020

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  • Here is what the Exit Polls looked like in 2020.

    Discuss for 2 marks!!

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  • DavidNovember 20, 2020 4:30 AM

    JUST IN: After a statewide audit, Georgia election officials have confirmed President-elect Biden’s victory over President Trump https://t.co/aReuY9s9d2— CNN (@CNN) November 20, 2020

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    Not meaning to be too legalistic but what is the difference between confirmed and certified?

    Who certifies?

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  • John

    Do you realise that Trump’s activities, geared to illegally getting reelected in 2020, will, if successful, almost certainly destroy Democracy and democratic norms in America (or at least the semblance of democracy)

    Do you really think it is worth it to have Trump as president for another 8 years? Can you visualize what America will look like?

    dpD;

    There is a credible chance that Trump might yet be successful in his quest to remain president despite the votes showing otherwise . I hope not, as that will lead to unimaginable consequences for life in America. Lets hope that Biden and Harris are up to the imminent challenges and can engineer the actions necessary to hogtie Trump, Barr, the GOP, Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnell, the bought GOP operatives involved in certifying the results of the 2020 elections, the Trump Justices, the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo boys and the millions of americans who have stocked up on big guns and ammo against the eventuality that Trump now threatens.

    Be very afraid! This has passed the realm of an unlikely occurrence. America is in trouble.

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  • JohnNovember 20, 2020 4:45 AM

    DavidNovember 20, 2020 4:30 AM

    JUST IN: After a statewide audit, Georgia election officials have confirmed President-elect Biden’s victory over President Trump https://t.co/aReuY9s9d2— CNN (@CNN) November 20, 2020

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    Not meaning to be too legalistic but what is the difference between confirmed and certified?

    Who certifies?

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    It is now for the persons who certify the election to act.

    They have to decide whether the many thousands of voting irregularities turned up in the audit/recount are grounds to prevent the certification.

    If they don’t certify the election then it comes down to what the constitution says should happen.

    Thank God for the constitution.

    In God We Trust, based on the 1733 Harrison College Motto “In Deo Fides”, Trust in God.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_College_(Barbados)#:~:text=On%20special%20occasions%2C%20navy%20blue,by%20the%20senior%20school%20students.&text=Students%20earn%20these%20ties%20for,a%20club%20(extracurricular%20activity).

    That’s why there are adults and children.

    The decision is for adults to make, … the big people.

    It is to be hoped they will act in the interest of those in the state, including the lickle children for whom they are responsible and who have no say.

    Trust in God.

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  • lyallsmallNovember 20, 2020 7:03 AM

    John

    Do you realise that Trump’s activities, geared to illegally getting reelected in 2020, will, if successful, almost certainly destroy Democracy and democratic norms in America (or at least the semblance of democracy)

    Do you really think it is worth it to have Trump as president for another 8 years? Can you visualize what America will look like?

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    No I don’t.

    Trump didn’t cause the thousands of voter irregularities/fraud that were found in Georgia during the recently concluded recount/audit..

    Once the Constitution of America is followed and the responsible people act like adults, everything will be fine.

    Trust in God.

    BTW, Trump will only be able to get two more terms (8 years) if Biden gets in!!

    So, if that is a problem for you, pray to God Biden does.

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  • Anyone can say what the final voter margin breakdown by ethnicity was like and if it differed from the exit polls?

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  • Can anyone say …!!

    Better english.

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  • Here are some of the thousands of voter irregularities/fraud that showed up after the Georgia recount.

    https://www.post-gazette.com/news/vote2020/2020/11/18/Recount-finds-thousands-of-Georgia-votes-missing-from-initial-counts/stories/202011180178

    Were all found?

    No one can say!!

    It may be the folks that certify can find a way to certify the vote count/recount but they also have to realise there is another train in the tunnel and it is the Venezuelan voting machines!!

    Maybe the state should have refused to certify the machines, like Texas and the officials would have had an easier path to certification.

    If they do certify and it is challenged in court it may take a while to decide.

    The counting of mail in ballots and its associated recount, will have chewed up alot of time since the election was held on the 3rd and the 14th December deadline is not that much closer.

    D – 24 days and counting for Georgia.

    The Democrats may live to regret the 300 plus lawsuits in which they engaged to get to the position on mail in ballots.

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  • Oh boy.

    In Wayne County here is what seemed to have happened.

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  • Michigan, we have a problem!!

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  • “Trump didn’t cause the thousands of voter irregularities/fraud that were found in Georgia during the recently concluded recount/audit..”

    Please remind us of the “thousands of voter fraud that were found in Georgia?”

    Four counties in Georgia found ballots that had been missed the first time around.

    In Douglas County, votes from a memory card weren’t included in the initial tabulation. In a county where Biden led by 25 points before the recount, he picked up 28 more votes than Trump, 9 percent of the added votes.

    In Fayette County, another memory-card error led to Trump gaining a net 449 votes, 16 percent of the found ballots in a county that he won by six points in the initial count.

    In Floyd County, workers initially failed to scan more than 2,500 ballots. Trump won the county by more than 40 points; the new ballots favored him by more than 30 points once scanned. That added 778 votes for Trump on net.

    Walton County was the third county in which there was a memory card missed in the original tally. It included 284 votes, most of which Trump won. He added a net of 176 votes in a county he won by nearly 50 points.

    The recount actually favoured Trump and indicated he was able to gain an additional 1,375 votes as a result of system errors, thereby reducing Biden’s lead by almost 10%.

    According to reports, Trump “declared that the recount was “a joke” even though “thousands of fraudulent votes have been found.” By which, it seems, he meant that the finding of the votes somehow indicated fraud, not that the votes — most of which he won — were actually cast illegally.”

    It seems as though he wasn’t really interested in the accuracy of the counts, but in counts that somehow showed him winning.

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  • Romney: “It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American President.” https://t.co/Ckpf35SNOg— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) November 20, 2020

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  • The former New York mayor's literal meltdown inspired the tabloid's mocking moniker. https://t.co/fc2bM3NcWh— HuffPost (@HuffPost) November 20, 2020

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  • Atrax

    You have detailed some of the voter irregularities/fraud that occurred.

    A fraud has been perpetrated on a voter if his/her vote is legal and is not counted.

    No one can say how many more thousands of voter irregularities/fraud exist.

    The ones you enumerate may be the ones that were not covered up properly.

    That’s why FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING!!

    Fraud like sin contaminates and renders impure.

    Those who are charged with the certification of the vote now have a most difficult decision.

    They may or may not opt to certify.

    Time will tell.

    If they do, their decision is open to challenge in a court of law, right up to the Supreme Court if necessary.

    The clock is ticking, D-24.

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  • John, seems as though you’re mimicking the hair dye dripping Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell who made extreme, baseless claims about communist Venezuela and George Soros supposedly interfering in the US election.

    Perhaps, similarly to those two, you want us to believe that somehow, the Democrats held a séance to communicate with Chavez’s spirit so he could join with Cuba and China to rig the US elections in Biden’s favour……… or he did so from beyond the grave.

    I hope you also realised Giuliani and Powell were unable to provide the crowd attending their press conference with any documented proof to substantiate their claims. Interestingly, FOX News’ Tucker Carlson seems to have abandoned that ‘ship’ as well. He invited Powell to his show and repeatedly asked her to bring proof of her allegations. She refused and told him not to contact her again.

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  • looking for family and friends for an intervention

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  • There are voter irregularities and then there are those who uncover voter irregularities and then there are those who decide what to do about those voter irregularities.

    The trick is to have no voter irregularities.

    Then the barrage of decision makers are kept out of the process and clean decisions can be made regarding certification.

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  • By which, it seems, he meant that the finding of the votes somehow indicated fraud, not that the votes — most of which he won — were actually cast illegally.”

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    FVE

    That’s the whole point of the audit/recount

    To examine if there is a case for fraud.

    It doesn’t matter for whom the vote was cast.

    All that matters is fraud exists.

    FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING!!

    Simple, basic legal principle.

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  • I love this scene from My Cousin Vinny!!

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  • This one illustrates Rudy’s point too

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  • Horlicks time John.

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  • I learnt alot about the law from this movie.

    Many lawyers use it.

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  • “That’s the whole point of the audit/recount. To examine if there is a case for fraud.”

    Are you referring to Georgia? If so, then, you’re wrong. There is no mandatory recount law in Georgia, but state law does allow for a recount if the margin is less than 0.5%. It currently stands at 0.2%.

    This means the recount wasn’t done “to examine if there is a case for fraud,” but because of the < 0.5% margin of votes between Biden and Trump.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    David, remember Romney is NOT the leader of his party in the Senate so his words although very purposeful coming from a US Senator are yet “lost” in the silence from Movealong Mitch!

    The Republican senate leadership are complicit in a ‘coup’ of their country.

    I am waiting to see if those Michigan republicans will ACTUALLY attend that WH meeting to even consider/discuss replacing the legally voted electors with Trumpet tuned partisans … that discussion by ITSELF chaired by a POTUS is the definitive first steps of a coup d’etat…. yet ONLY Romney is shouting ‘FIRE, FIRE dangerous FIRE in the WH’

    (It speaks directly to ur arguement @Lyall)

    @Artax and @Donna we realize how ridiculous @John Fellow makes himself here but of course he is no more outlandish than the leader he slavishly follows.

    However, some of his remarks are so stupidly nonsensical that they truly irritate!

    How can a man who (like him) did well academically and attained acclaim in his studies be considered ‘form but no substance’ … SMH! Compared to a man who had his SATs (consider that like our GCEs as a broad equivalent) done for him and finally got into Wharton because his wealthy father dropped a few millions bucks to support the school! Steeupse.

    And of course Obama is a chum but this man here parades HIS academics to validate HIS substance! … Infreakingcredible is the absurd, stupid hypocritical, asine BS verbiage from these sycophants… truly irritating.

    I gone.

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  • ArtaxNovember 20, 2020 10:02 AM

    “That’s the whole point of the audit/recount. To examine if there is a case for fraud.”

    Are you referring to Georgia? If so, then, you’re wrong. There is no mandatory recount law in Georgia, but state law does allow for a recount if the margin is less than 0.5%. It currently stands at 0.2%.

    This means the recount wasn’t done “to examine if there is a case for fraud,” but because of the < 0.5% margin of votes between Biden and Trump.

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    … and fraud or irregularities could eliminate the margin, or expose the likelihood of more fraud.

    What you need to look for is an example of where fraud overturned the result of an election.

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  • @Dee Word

    Do you buyin to the argument the silence has to do with tactics playing out in Georgia runoff?

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  • de pedantic DribblerNovember 20, 2020 10:14 AM

    David, remember Romney is NOT the leader of his party in the Senate so his words although very purposeful coming from a US Senator are yet “lost” in the silence from Movealong Mitch!

    The Republican senate leadership are complicit in a ‘coup’ of their country.

    I am waiting to see if those Michigan republicans will ACTUALLY attend that WH meeting to even consider/discuss replacing the legally voted electors with Trumpet tuned partisans … that discussion by ITSELF chaired by a POTUS is the definitive first steps of a coup d’etat…. yet ONLY Romney is shouting ‘FIRE, FIRE dangerous FIRE in the WH’

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    Romney is a never Trumper!

    What do you expect.

    The dummy doesn’t get that there has been a clear case of intimidation against the two Republican officials who certify the election in Wayne County, Michigan, watch the Ingraham interview posted.

    He is supposed to be a Republican but he is a RINO.

    I would imagine Trump as President is reading the riot act to them!!

    Do your ffing job he is no doubt telling them!!

    He may be briefing them on the evidence the security agencies have on Dominion so they don’t make fools of themselves and expose themselves.

    Like the Godfather, he may be making them an offer they can’t refuse!!

    Relax Junior.

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  • This is the scene to which Rudy is referring.

    My cousin Vinny is a gem!!

    Any self respecting lawyer will use it to hone their legal skills!!

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  • “What you need to look for is an example of where fraud overturned the result of an election.”

    Nah……. maybe you should. After all, you’re the one chanting ‘electoral fraud,” without providing any proof.

    Rudy’s a terrible lawyer. Perhaps you should also share those YouTube videos of ‘My Cousin Vinny’ with him, not to “learn a lot about the law,” but for him learn a thing or two about acting.

    But, judging from his unconvincing performance at the press conference, he’ll probably be a terrible actor as well.

    Giuliani said the Trump campaign withdrew one case in Michigan because its goal was to get the Wayne County board to decertify and they did.

    This is false. The county’s results were certified on Tuesday night. Two Republican members of the Board initially deadlocked the vote but then reversed their decision and voted to certify Tuesday night. They have since sent in affidavits to rescind their vote but have not filed any lawsuits to try to force the county to call a new meeting. Since the deadline has passed, the certification still stands.
    Democratic Vice Chair Jonathan Kinloch said Thursday that board members’ votes cannot be changed after the fact.

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  • Democratic Vice Chair Jonathan Kinloch said Thursday that board members’ votes cannot be changed after the fact.

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    So how come they changed their vote after they first voted not to certify.

    Intimidation!!

    However, read the fine print and you will see they changed their vote pending the outcome of another audit!!

    After you have done that, consider if the intimidation used on the two republican officials to change their vote might amount to fraud, irregularity or whatever!!!

    Wayne County is but one of many!!

    So how do the election officials for the state now certify a vote that is contaminated?

    FVE!!!!

    FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING!!

    One bad apple!!!

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  • Of course the State officials can do as they please, but their decision can be challenged in a court of law.

    If the allegations about Dominion are right they will have certified an election that is utterly riddled with fraud.

    They will look like shit and if as I am suggesting Trump gives them the evidence before they certify and they go ahead regardless, they will not only look like shit but they may also expose themselves personally to legal ramifications.

    Remember, they swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States when they took up office!!

    They may have been made an offer they can’t refuse at the White House!!

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  • Types of Voter Fraud
    IMPERSONATION FRAUD AT THE POLLS: Voting in the name
    of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or
    lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.
    FALSE REGISTRATIONS: Voting under fraudulent voter
    registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address
    or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered
    voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.
    DUPLICATE VOTING: Registering in multiple locations and voting
    in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.
    FRAUDULENT USE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS: Requesting
    absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual
    voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling
    it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the
    voter who to vote for.
    BUYING VOTES: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or
    absentee ballot for a particular candidate.
    ILLEGAL “ASSISTANCE” AT THE POLLS: Forcing or
    intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and
    those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular
    candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”
    INELIGIBLE VOTING: Illegal registration and voting by individuals
    who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not
    eligible to vote.
    ALTERING THE VOTE COUNT: Changing the actual vote
    count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes
    are counted.
    BALLOT PETITION FRAUD: Forging the signatures of registered
    voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials
    in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

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  • ALTERING THE VOTE COUNT: Changing the actual vote
    count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes
    are counted.

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  • Here is a sampling.

    Look at how elections have been overturned in the past.

    Search for the word overturned.

    Click to access pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

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  • So sick and twisted! I can’t even laugh anymore. Who could laugh in the face of such evil? You, John Knox, are horrifying enough to cause sleep disturbance.

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  • John does not believe in ‘democracy’. He and his family are slavers. All their wealth derived from exploitation of black people. Those blacks who support him don’t know their history.

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  • Geraldo Rivera suggests the coronavirus vaccine should be named after Trump to cheer him up about losing the election https://t.co/9v290WmWNZ— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) November 20, 2020

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  • John and his living family were born more than a century after slavery was abolished!!!

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  • The virus does not care.

    Rick Scott becomes seventh Republican senator to test positive for COVID-19 https://t.co/Vhzst0zi7o— Newsweek (@Newsweek) November 20, 2020

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  • The comedy show continues.

    ‘Cut their head off’: Rudy Giuliani suggests cutting heads of Democrats in Fox interview after disastrous press conference https://t.co/MEp5I2TT9X— The Independent (@Independent) November 20, 2020

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  • DonnaNovember 20, 2020 11:22 AM

    So sick and twisted! I can’t even laugh anymore. Who could laugh in the face of such evil? You, John Knox, are horrifying enough to cause sleep disturbance.

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    So I take it you don’t agree with the established legal principle that FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING.

    Here are some samples where it has overturned elections in the US.

    ALABAMA
    Guntersville, Alabama
    OUTCOME: JUDICIAL FINDING
    Election Overturned
    The Supreme Court of Alabama overturned the mayoral election
    results for the City of Guntersville, Alabama after finding that
    absentee ballots cast without proper identification should have been
    excluded.

    CALIFORNIA
    Vernon, CA
    OUTCOME: JUDICIAL FINDING
    Election Overturned
    A City Council election (originally decided by four votes) in Vernon,
    California is overturned when it is determined that five people
    who voted for the winner were not residents of the city, and two
    others had not properly mailed in their ballots. A new winner was
    subsequently named.

    Compton, CA
    OUTCOME: JUDICIAL FINDING
    Election Overturned
    A 2001 election in Compton turned into a multi-year legal drama as
    candidates for city council and mayor traded accusations of fraud. In
    the election, incumbent Mayor Omar Bradley lost to challenger Eric
    Perrodin by 281 votes, and Leslie Irving (a Perrodin ally) defeated
    Melanie Andrews for an open city council seat. Bradley sued, alleging
    fraud, including allegations that Irving illegally registered non-citizens.
    Superior Court Judge Judith Chirlin overturned the election, returning
    Bradley to power based on the fact that the city clerk had improperly
    placed Perrodin’s name at the top of the ballot rather than select the
    order randomly. Chirlin also found that Irving had indeed helped noncitizens to register and vote in the election, and removed Irving from office and replaced her with Andrews. On appeal, Chirlin’s ruling was
    partially overturned. The appellate court acknowledged that Perrodin
    had benefited from a “primacy effect,” but this was insufficient to
    overturn the election. The appellate court upheld the removal of Irving
    from office, but held that Judge Chirlin should have ordered a new
    election rather than simply replace her with Andrews.

    You notice this one ended up in a multi year legal drama.

    You can google and see for yourself it does not take much to overturn an election once fraud is present.

    “a sampling of election fraud cases from across the countryhttps://www.whitehouse.gov › docs › pacei-voterfraudcasesPDF
    sum total of his election fraud may have been much higher. The former sanitation director for the city applied for hundreds of ballots, successfully submitting 98 in …”

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  • Is there any allegation that Trump committed Fraud?

    He is clean as a whistle.

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  • Rudy Giuliani’s son tests positive for coronavirus https://t.co/FqXsxOpvqO— The Independent (@Independent) November 20, 2020

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

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  • John Knox you spawn of Satan!

    Enough of your lies!

    Every blasted case your lord and master has taken to court has been thrown to hell out or withdrawn for lack of evidence. We have the audio. We have the transcripts.

    You are a very nasty piece of work!

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  • Dont bother with John Knox. He has to be the loneliest rich half breeed in Bim. He should plant a kitchen garden and get out there and enjoy playing in dirt. He, however, prefers to spend his days at the computer reading right wing garbage.

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  • JohnNovember 20, 2020 12:13 PM

    Is there any allegation that Trump committed Fraud?

    He is clean as a whistle.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The reason is the Democrats don’t want the clock to run out.

    Plus, they know he is clean and will draw them out in court.

    They will play right into his hands if they allege fraud.

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  • If all these senators and officials who have sworn to uphold the constitution of the United States of America agree with the Donald, they should join with him in getting to the heart of the matter!!

    They were on it long before him!!

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  • Looks like the prof used an EPROM or EEPROM which is available off Amazon for a few dollars.

    Back in the 80’s we used to make them at Intel.

    Pretty standard.

    An EPROM programmer is available from Amazon too.

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=eprom+programmer&__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=16HIL8WTFUDHL&sprefix=eprom+pro%2Caps%2C265&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9

    A USB allows the EPROM/EEPROM to be programmed from a laptop,

    No big set of money but you need to know what you are doing.

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  • Here is the process

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  • For an EEPROM here’s the process, not much different

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  • @Quaker John

    Is there a Quaker concept of a Just War? If so, what circumstances would justify such a war? Also, is there a Quaker belief in conscience?

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  • All I can tell you Hal is that Quakers have fought in wars, engaged in violence against others and done what any other human has done before.

    eg General Nathaniel Greene of the Continental Army.

    This may help on your question on conscience.

    Next time you are at Quaker HQ in London, ask the question.

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  • I am yet to meet any Quakers here!!

    Actually, I have met 2 here but never knew they were Quakers until years after they had left Barbados and was told.

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  • Are you a Quaker?

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  • I was only at Friends’ House to hear Mia.

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  • Is she a Quaker?

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  • Attempted Coup?

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  • Call them spineless

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  • Sarge

    Aaah, now you are getting to the possibility of 2 dueling slates of electors, and constitutional all legal!!!

    There can be 2 slates of electors from a state!!

    “It is theoretically possible for the governor and legislature, each representing a different political party, to submit two different election results, leading to so-called “dueling slates of electors.”

    Below are details of how that might play out.”

    So if the republicans believe that Trump won they will present one slate.

    If the Democrats believe Biden won, they will present a second slate.

    However, if Trump has the Goods on Dominion, they may both agree one slate, a Republican slate.

    I am guessing he is making both an offer neither can refuse.

    The art of the deal!!

    No stealing involved, just dignified and potent officer(s) escape prosecution for failing to uphold their oath(s) of office.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-dueling-electors-explain-idUSKBN2712M7

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  • The Governor and Legislature are responsible for holding elections according to the Constitution in their states.

    The Governor and each member of the legislature swore oaths to uphold the Constitution BEFORE they were allowed to take up office.

    If evidence exists to show any of them are acting contrary to the Constitution and the oaths they swore it becomes very serious for the offenders … maybe treason.

    If Trump has the goods, it all solves amicably, once all behave as adults.

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  • @ John November 20, 2020 4:22 PM
    “Is she a Quaker?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Is Trump a Quaker?

    Have you met any Raelians?

    Is it true that Jesus was a Raelian?

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  • Trump wanted to steal credit for others work again, but Dolly Parton gets the props for investing her money in the successful Covid vaccine.

    The people say FUCK TRUMP!

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  • MillerNovember 20, 2020 5:44 PM

    @ John November 20, 2020 4:22 PM
    “Is she a Quaker?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Is Trump a Quaker?

    Have you met any Raelians?

    Is it true that Jesus was a Raelian?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Are you a Raelian?

    If so, please educate the rest of us.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    In simple terms @David… YES.

    The republican establishment CANNOT spite the man that energized 70 million people to vote for him… but those smart men and women appear to dismiss the fact that he equally energized 74 million to vote AGAINST him .

    So absolutely, Mitch and Graham at al are deeply concerned about the POTUS impact in that senate run off!

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  • Sounds like Dominion Voting Systems may be splitting the scene.

    Guess we will know a bit more as time progresses.

    “RUSH: Last night officials with Dominion voter systems — now, this is the company out of Venezuela along with their software partner smart screen, smart scom, whatever it is, these are the people that claim that their system is fair and aboveboard and there’s nothing to these charges about their system being used to rig elections or any of that. They were all set to explain it all. They were gonna testify before the Pennsylvania House state government committee today.

    And then the House Republicans in Pennsylvania are gonna hold a press conference this morning to address Dominion’s failure to appear because that’s exactly what happened. They didn’t show up. Why not? They lawyered up and didn’t show up. Since Election Day, over 100 out of 243 Dominion employees on LinkedIn have deleted their profiles. This is not a good sign for a company. Over 40% of Dominion’s employees with profiles on LinkedIn on Election Day have eliminated their profiles.”

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/11/20/dominion-fails-to-appear-at-pennsylvania-hearing/

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