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Submitted by Green Monkey
The 1hr 30min documentary Vaxxed investigates and reports on corruption in the CDC’s vaccine safety research.  The CDC’s research clearly showed there was a statistically significant link to an increased risk of autism in African-American infants who were vaccinated with the MMR vaccine before the age of 3 vs those vaccinated with MMR after the age of 3.  The evidence was intentionally covered up and not acted up or followed up by the CDC.
The documentary is currently posted on YouTube, link below.  I would advise you to watch it ASAP, as YouTube is known to take down videos that question or cast doubt on any theories or discussion of medical issues that imply the commonly accepted explanations and theories of our allopathic medical doctors, their regulatory bodies and medical schools might be incorrect. Today’s medical orthodoxy demands that any possible link between autism and vaccines is denied.

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147 responses to “To ‘Vaccine’ or NOT!”

  1. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Pachamama May 13, 2020 8:05 AM “Certainly to compare one’s own children to the clearly observable incidence of autism in the Black population of young boys in America has no place a scientific discourse.”

    If you have evidence of the “clearly observable incidence of autism in the Black population of young boys in America” why don’t you present it.

    Or you just trying to mislead people as usual?

  2. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Greene May 13, 2020 9:03 AM “people kill each other all over the world and it is not exclusive to blacks, so what is your point?”

    Agreed.

    And those humans all over the world, killing each other are mostly YOUNG MEN KILLING OTHER YOUNG MEN..

    Lemme run now before miller or whitehill come after me for speaking a verifiable truth.

    A truth which can be verified in every single country of the world.

  3. c Avatar
    c

    @Vincent Codrington May 13, 2020 9:13 AM “There is enough scientific evidence to support the belief that some vaccine have counter indications for some humans, The link with autism has also been confirmed.”

    If the link to vaccines and autism has been confirmed why don’t you present the evidence, or are you trying to mislead people?

  4. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    We are willing to bet that this man called Lucas has a big stinking guts and therefore a waistline larger than his chest and thereby qualifies for all the ailments associated with the Western patterns of malnutrition he here condemns amongst Afrikan Americans.

    And we make this grand charge entirely based on what he brags about eating and the decadent culture which gives him sucker.

    Barbados has been the amputation capital of the world, per million. Lucas is therefore a prime candidate for the black pudding and souce, the pig food he loves so much to be amputated.

  5. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Vincent Codrington May 13, 2020 11:25 AM “I am of the firm belief that there is nothing permanent in science.”

    i dunno.

    When last I checked 1+1 still =2. That seems kinda permanent to me.

    But then again EVERY day on CBC i hear idiotic talk about “the sun is scheduled to rise at X time”

    And I scratch my head and wonder when was it that we started scheduling the sun.

    Look people. We don’t schedule the sun. The sun is not a damn cricket match, nor a meeting of the political class.The sun schedules us.

    And I wonder what would happen if one morning the sun refuses to rise at X time as scheduled, and decides to rise an hour later, or an hour earlier.

    I leffing the answer to dat one to the physics boys of BU, or perhaps to the theology boys, or perhaps to the English Language boys.

    Gotta water my plants. Still drought here. I guess nobody has thought to schedule the rain.

    Lol!!!

  6. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ C at 5 :01 PM

    If you were capable of understanding the scientific research you would know where to look. Nice try. I do not operate at your level.

  7. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Vaccination is NOT “all hit and miss”

    Me thinks you missed the part right there in black and white where i said ….some have been useful over the last century…AND it depends on who is FUNDING THE RESEARCH , TRIALS…as well as the end product….stop half reading things as usual…

    BCG is one that was discontinued and one or two others…

  8. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @David May 13, 2020 1:14 PM “@Dr. Lucas. Struggling to understand your point. Because blacks have poor eating habits it means what? ”

    David, bad eating habits duz kill ya, and it doesn’t matter if the bad eater is black, white, or any other race/colour.

    All of the fat kids who were at elementary school with me are already dead, dead, dead, and I int even 70 yet. Also the first time I knew that human being could go over 300 pounds, over 400 pounds is when I went to the States. And those “porkers” were not black, since I was in a white community at the time they were all white. I remember one man’s handshake, he was in his forties, fat and fluffy, and had a puffy handshake. By the next Sunday he was dead of his heart disease. He was white.

  9. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Greene May 13, 2020 1:48 PM “we were only freed in 1834 or 38 in the WI, in America a bit after that and later in S America.”

    So true.

    When slavery was abolished in Brazil, my father’s mother was 19 years old. An aunt, my maternal grandmother’s sister went ther to work in the 1940’s. She soon returned to Barbados, bad as it was. look what the idiot Bolsonaro is doing to Brazil’s poor black population right now.

  10. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @WURA-War-on-U May 13, 2020 5:28 PM “BCG is one that was discontinued.”

    The discontinuation of the BCG vaccine in the United States had nothing to do with the safety or efficacy of the vaccine.

    It was discontinued because the United States had managed to essentially suppress TB, and it was felt that the anti-TB vaccine was no longer necessary. The United States may live to regret the discontinuation of BCG, because it seems that the BCG vaccine may offer some protection against COVID-19, which like TB is a severe lung disease.

    In addition people who have received BCG will test “positive” for TB for the rest of their lives, even though they have never had TB. Some countries then require immigrants or health care workers to prove that they do not have TB by providing a chest x-ray. Even though x-rays are medically useful, they do potentially have some issues. The U.S. authorities did a cost/benefit analysis and dropped BCG.

    But BCG is still an excellent vaccine.

  11. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @robert lucas May 13, 2020 1:57 PM “Eating habits have to do with the underlying causes of death (high blood pressure, diabetes, overweight) with the Wuhan virus.”

    You know very well that the rate of high blood pressure in black people in the Western hemisphere is almost entirely the slave master’s fault. The black people whose bodies did not effectively retain salt died during the sweaty stress, and dehydration of the middle passage. The salt retainers lived, and passed this trait onto our children, and our children’s children.

    I have never been fat in my life, I rarely drink alcohol, never smoked, have always eaten a low salt diet, for decades have mostly walked everywhere and still I have high blood pressure.

  12. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    It looks like Robert Lucas is set to replace the inimitable “uncle” GP from his attic. Pure mock sport in the rum shop.

    On another blog he dismissed blacks as been entertainers. Never under estimate the contribution made from so-called entertainers. Our Rihanna has achieved much despite her relative youth.

    Robert you need to chill out.

  13. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier

    LET’S CONSIDER FOR A MOMENT THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK OUT AGAINST WHO AND THE CDC ETC ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH…

    Do you not think that these organizations will do everything in their power to discredit them? The answer is Of Course! That’s what this is all about….people are speaking out and they are being ridiculed and discredited and all to cover up in many cases the truth. I am not trying to convince anyone of my views, I have no reason other than trying to promote awareness, I am bringing info to the platform that I think is worthy. It’s up you to fact check and research and decide what makes sense to you but you should be wary and open minded.

    Who will speak against these organizations? If not these guys who are brave enough to come forward knowing full well that they will be attacked, ridiculed, discredited and in some cases killed!! These people will stop at nothing to achieve their evil ambitions. Many doctors are afraid to speak out as they will likely loose their job, they know that they will be in danger of even loosing their life. Very serious situation to face if you see wrong doing and try to expose it. The media has the power to make a guilty man innocent and vice versa. It’s a tug of war of truth and lies. But when you follow the money trail of people like Gates and others you will see that they are funding all of these big organizations like WHO and also have significant control over mainstream media which gives them a considerable advantage at covering up.

    These people are masters of deception and have networks to achieve their objectives. The truth has no place in their arena, they have the ability to turn it all into lies. I totally understand how confusing it is to be able to know what is truth and what is lies and I don’t profess to have the answers and to know beyond a shadow of a doubt what is truth and what is not. How do any of you know that mainstream media is bringing the truth? Whose fact checking them? But here is a sad reality….people have become accustomed to accepting whatever is presented there as truth without question. The term conspiracy theories was coined by the CIA and is the term that is used to describe any info that goes against the grain.
    What reason would all of these people that are coming forward with information have to gain from risking their lives and their reputations if not to make the public aware? Trying to expose the evil doings of these corrupt organizations for our benefit and the collective benefit of humanity with freedom and liberty intact. Let’s hope that it is all false and fake because if it’s not…freedom and liberty will be a thing of the past.

    THE COVID VACCINE WILL REPROGRAM OUR DNA TO A NON-HUMAN CONSTRUCT.

    It’s sad but even intelligent people have been transformed psychologically to live by their feelings, so they no longer live by logic, truth, and critical thinking.

    Billy G Wong’s Vaccine is like on no other that they have ever Created before this one has in RNA which when administered will seek to rewrite the DNA Code of a Human being. We will become something other than a human being and the first people that they administer this to they have to Pledge not to have Sex, because they don’t want you to see what the Offspring would look like. That is why this Push is mandating people to take the Vaccine, that is no choice in the matter…Seven Billion people in the world according to Billy Wong. And Guess who has Shares in those Major Vaccine Companies? Do you want your DNA Altered?

  14. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    loony tunes time now. down the rabbit hole we go. and then some advocate Hal be banned

  15. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    I hope that robert and khalee approved of the meal I had today.

    Brown rice with lots of spinach and kale thrown in.

    Baked chicken, a piece of sweet potato. 4 ounces of orange juice mixed with 4 ounces of tap water.

    My parents ate like this. My mother would get up and say “lemmeee see what is in the ground” then she would produce our meals for the day. My grandparents ate like this. I’ve mostly eaten like this all of my life.

    Still I have hypertension.

    Decades ago I made one of my rare visits to one of our fast food places. I asked for tap water with my meal. They said “no substitutes” I cancelled my order. I am aware now that people can ask for tap water or bottled water with their meal, so maybe we are getting there by tiny little steps.

  16. David Avatar
    David

    @greene

    Stop spouting nonsense. Austin and ac were told to post COVID stuff to the several blogs dealing with the subject and leave the Caswell Mock Police blog free to focus on that matter. Why are some of you so unreasonable?

    BTW, the two are being moderated, not banned. Try to get it right.

    Steuspe

    >

  17. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    Wuh Loss!!

    To vaccine or NOT!! That is the moot.

    BUT

    Everybody has his story to tell; so regardless of the question posed, Everyman is going to tell his story whether it makes connection with the moot or not.
    Time for another glass of lemonade.
    .

  18. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @David,

    i said some advocate that Hal be banned. @Robert has done so recently. i wasnt referring to your moderating Hal’s comment. you have explained that. but i can be your Huckleberry if you wish

  19. David Avatar
    David

    @greene

    Anybody can advocate, BU blogmaster has developed a reputation for turning the other cheek i.e. he is not thin skinned. Only one person has been banned on BU over 13 years, regulars know who he is and they agree (Jack Bowman). Those accusing the blogmaster of preventing free speech are being dishonest.

    If commenters blatantly ignore reasonable requests something will be done about it.

  20. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier

    RE… Cuhdear Bajan May 13, 2020 5:48 PM “I have never been fat in my life, I rarely drink alcohol, never smoked, have always eaten a low salt diet, for decades have mostly walked everywhere and still I have high blood pressure.”

    May Freedom Suggest that you Increase your Salt Intake and Drink a Blend of Lemon and Ginger Tea every morning…

    Lemon and Ginger Tea has assisted my husband that after over 30 years on Blood Pressure Medication, happy to report that for the Past Few Weeks his Blood Pressure is Very Close to Normal…This has not happened in over Three decades. We started drinking this Tea as a Preventive against the Flu Virus and the Side Effects were very Beneficial for him.

    REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD DRINK LEMON GINGER TEA!

    A Professor Noted that…IN ADDITION ACIDS AND CARBOLIC ACID IN LEMON JUICE CAN REGULATE HYPERTENSION AND PROTECT THE NARROW ARTERIES THEREBY REDUCING BLOOD CLOTTING.

    BENEFITS LEMMON WATER

    Balances our PH Levels

    Filters Our Blood

    Helps with Regulating Blood Pressure

    High in Vitamin A & C

    Hydrates more than just Plain Water

    Drinking Warm Lemon Water before eating helps with Digestion

    Helps your Liver with Purification

    Kills Bacteria

    Keeps the Shin Healthy

    MAKING LEMON AND GINGER TEA: MAKING LEMON GINGER TEA IS VERY EASY AND REQUIRES THE FOLLOWING INGREDIENTS: • Lemon • Fresh ginger •• Water. Follow these easy steps to make the tea:

    To make lemon and ginger tea, take Fresh Ginger, Clean and Slice into Thin pieces.
    Blend and Put the ginger into a pot of boiling water and simmer for 30 minutes.
    Take Fresh Lemons wash and scrub them with Salt to remove the wax that covers most store bought lemons and Thinly slice them.
    After boiling the Ginger turn off the heat and allow Cooling before adding Sliced Lemons as hot water destroys the Vitamin C content. Use a Potato Crusher and mash the lemons releasing the juice and Pour into Glass containers. I usually do a Pressure Cooker of this Mixture that last a few days before making another Batch.

    IMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT LEMON GINGER TEA IS AN IMMUNITY BOOSTER AS LEMON CONTAINS VITAMIN C AND ANTIOXIDANTS. Both lemon and ginger are great at fighting infections because of their antibacterial properties. USING LEMON GINGER TEA CAN REDUCE THE DURATION OF COLD, FLU, COUGH, and it is also beneficial for fighting salmonella infections.

    https://mybostonmaids.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/lemon-ginger-water-1.jpg

  21. john2 Avatar
    john2

    Some advocate for Hal to be banned because of his disrespect to the blog master.

  22. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “The discontinuation of the BCG vaccine in the United States had nothing to do with the safety or efficacy of the vaccine.”

    please read and digest….it clearly meant that the BCG vaccine was not needed, not shit happened to those kids because they were not vaccinated with it nor the other 2 or so that were discontinued along the line…i never once said they caused any problems either….

    Whitehill needs to come get you..

    in saying that, they kept adding what i consider poisons to vaccines that affects certain children negatively, i was shocked when i saw the list, i certainly don’t want anyone putting that level of utter garbage in me,

    the original content was not more than 4 various whatever they used back then, but what i saw recently looked like a laundry list of various frightening poisons….i said it was my opinion, i suggest everyone check out the list themselves…and form their own opinion.

  23. GP Avatar
    GP

    re You know very well that the rate of high blood pressure in black people in the Western hemisphere is almost entirely the slave master’s fault. The black people whose bodies did not effectively retain salt died during the sweaty stress, and dehydration of the middle passage. The salt retainers lived, and passed this trait onto our children, and our children’s children.

    THIS IS A 40 FOOT CONTAINER OF COW’S WALLOP AKA BOVINE EXCREMENT
    PLEASE BRING THE EVIDENCE WITH APPROPRIATE PUNETT SQUARES

    I have never been fat in my life, I rarely drink alcohol, never smoked, have always eaten a low salt diet, for decades have mostly walked everywhere and still I have high blood pressure.

    SO WHAT?
    LOTS OF HYPERTENSIVES ARE NOT FAT DONT DRINK DONT SMOKE AND WALK A LOT AND ARE ON LOW SALT DIETS

  24. GreenMonkey Avatar
    GreenMonkey

    Hundreds of Children Brain Damaged by the Swine Flu Vaccine to Receive $90 Million in Financial Compensation from UK Government<.strong>

    First published in April 2015. The H1N1 vaccine fiasco ordered by the (corrupt) WHO Director General is of relevance to the current debate on a COVID-19 vaccine.

    The 2009 swine flu vaccine caused severe brain damage in over 800 children across Europe, and the UK government has now agreed to pay $90 million in compensation to those victims as part of a vaccine injury settlement.

    This is the same swine flu vaccine that the entire mainstream media ridiculously insists never causes any harm whatsoever. From the quack science section of the Washington Post to the big pharma sellout pages of the New York Times, every U.S. mainstream media outlet exists in a state of total vaccine injury denialism, pushing toxic vaccines that provably harm children.

    “Across Europe, more than 800 children are so far known to have been made ill by the vaccine,” reports the International Business Times.

    The vaccine caused narcolepsy and cataplexy in hundreds of children. Both are signs of neurological damage caused by vaccine additives which include mercury, aluminum, MSG, antibiotics and even formaldehyde.

    More: https://www.globalresearch.ca/hundreds-of-children-brain-damaged-by-the-swine-flu-vaccine-to-receive-90-million-in-financial-compensation-from-uk-government/5444329

  25. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    I am all for science. Ernest Rutherford once said that physics is the only real science and everything else was stamp collection. Even biology and chemistry was seen as stamp collection to Rutherford in his days. Ironically, he later won the nobel prize for chemistry and not for physics. I have more admiration for brain power over brawn power. That’s why my favorite people were always mathematicians, scientists and inventors, not athletes or entertainers. Great mathematical giants like Archmedes, Euclid, Gauss, Euler,Gauss, Newton, Lagrange, Laplace, Rieman, Hilbert etc I have profound respect.

    The internet has spawned a cottage industry of anti-intellectuals, psuedo-scientists, conspiracy theorists, and the deluded. They come dime a dozen. But then again it comes with the territorty. I am not anti-vaccine and support all effort to successfully develop one to deal with this pandemic.

  26. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @WURA-War-on-U May 13, 2020 7:10 PM ““The discontinuation of the BCG vaccine in the United States had nothing to do with the safety or efficacy of the vaccine.” please read and digest….it clearly meant that the BCG vaccine was not needed, not shit happened to those kids because they were not vaccinated.”

    Nothing happened to the kids because by then TB had already been successfully suppressed, and notice i said suppressed, not eliminated largely by the same BCG vaccine. One of my siblings worked as a public health nurse in the great white north largely with TB patients for more than 45 years. TB did not go away be accident. It took BCG and a whole lot of contact tracing and directly obsertved treatment (DOT) and a whole lot footwork to get the job essentially done. Not entirely done because TB still happens even in wealthy countries, principally among poor and marginalized people.

    People like you come along, see no TB in your particular community and think that it was always so. You don’t see the good done by vaccines, not the hard work done by many, many people.

  27. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @GP May 13, 2020 9:05 PM “SO WHAT? LOTS OF HYPERTENSIVES ARE NOT FAT DONT DRINK DONT SMOKE AND WALK A LOT AND ARE ON LOW SALT DIETS.”

    I know. Did I not say the same?

    I was responding to insinuations by others, not by you,, because I feel that you know better, that hypertension is the patient’s fault. That if people would only discipline themselves they would not become hypertensive.

  28. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    My first experience of awe in the power of mathematics and the real world was Gallaleo’s incline plane experiment back in high school. To see the derivation of a formula describing a free falling as a parabolic curve was mind blowing to me and very non-intutive at the same time.

  29. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Freedom Crier May 13, 2020 6:27 PM

    Thanks freedom. But izza a Bajan. 100% Bajan.

    I came up drinking lime tea, ginger tea, bay leaf tea, ceresee tee, coco tea, coffee tea and tea tea, and water and coconut water, and scalded milk fresh from the cow. For me those things are everyday.

    I trust that you did not think that I came up drinking Coco Cola or Pepsi Cola?

    But in any event i doubt that ginger/lemon will help or hurt, and it does taste nice.

    My prescription is work in your garden in the sun, walk to the shops in the sun, walk to the bank in the sun. Get as much sun/Vitamin D as possible.

    I am not sure when it is that we became a bunch of “Chamber Rosies.”

  30. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    It might served us much better to develop the same anti-stance against the consumption habits of the likes of the Nikes, Louis vettons, Guccis, Moets, Crystalis, Benzs, BMWs, Range Rovers KFCs, Macdonalds. fake hairs, etc. How can a group of people who makes or produced nothing has such high taste?

  31. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    The black nations on this planet shall forever be hewers of wood and drawers water to the other races if they don’t take science education and research seriously. Lawyers, preachers, entertainers, sport stars etc won’t cut it. Not to mention an oversupply. Give me the bajan that pioneer search engine development any day over a dozen Rhi Rhis.

  32. whiteHill Avatar
    whiteHill

    @Cuhdear Bajan, why should I come after you? I do believe you want me as much as I do you lol.

  33. whiteHill Avatar
    whiteHill

    @Greene, There are a lot of Bajans who don’t dislike their fellow blacks brothers and sisters born in the USA, and the same is true for their fellow Jamaicans. Black on black crimes in the USA is something we wished wasn’t of the magnitude at present. However, when people like Robert Lucas can so readily highlight this situation totally ignoring the contribution my black American brothers have made to that country and themselves given their history as you pointed out, there is a petty jealousy and a dislike not dissimilar to Bajans here having against their own brothers and sisters living in the same America. A petty jealousy coupled with the Willie lynch’s complex. It seems Robert lucas wants to be the Larry Elders of Barbados, there is material out there pointing to the many inventions by these black men and women of the USA, all the hell bjans can do is see the shit that is pushed on the white media. What Bajans should be mind full off is that they carried their docile, pandering. ass kissing and sucking up to America and let the white man play them against their black people thereby diluting the struggle of the Black Americans. This goes for those other islander as well.

  34. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    @ fortyacresandamule

    You said a few things here and de old man now ascended to prophet quotes

    “…It might served us much better to develop the same anti-stance against the consumption habits of the likes of the Nikes, Louis vettons, Guccis, Moets, Crystalis, Benzs, BMWs, Range Rovers KFCs, Macdonalds. fake hairs, etc.

    How can a group of people who makes or produced nothing has such high taste?…”

    But then you cap this off with what de ole man, now prophet, calls the pyramidion of comments when you said and I quote

    “… fortyacresandamule May 14, 2020 1:58 AM

    The black nations on this planet shall forever be hewers of wood and drawers water to the other races if they don’t take science education and research seriously. Lawyers, preachers, entertainers, sport stars etc won’t cut it. Not to mention an oversupply.

    Give me the bajan that pioneer search engine development any day over a dozen Rhi Rhis…”

    The sheeple here are going to castigated you for that comment!

    For in Rhi Rhi they see the external obvious $600 million value and like all sheeple will be seduced by such quantitative value.

    The bajan McKenzie has in their minds no equal value AND IT IS PRECISELY FOR THIS REASON, we will always be hewers of wood and drawers of water

    Another kindred spirit arises and holds their Sekhem Sceptre up and irradiates the world.

  35. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    Time does not all de ole prophet to scour the entire blog to find Dr Lucas’s comment.

    But de ole man now prophet once, while remarking about this issue of black on black crime to John the Quaker, remembered being moved to say that I was very ashamed to see how frequently we blacks, across the world, in general, and in Barbados, in particular, were so disposed to kill each other.

    I was not advancing any doctrine of my self hate for fellow blacks.

    I was speaking a fact about our hate of self and disposition to kill each other like cattle at an abattoir of life!

    But, having seen his contributions here on Barbados Underground, I wonder if that is not the context in which he made his remark?

  36. robert lucas Avatar
    robert lucas

    @ Greene May 13, 2020 4:46 PM

    “you seem to want to suggest that blacks dont take responsibility for their own actions and others do. if so, why?”

    The data on NCD would seem to indicate that there is a lack of responsibility.

  37. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    Oprah, the entertainer, is one of many entertainers who have contributed to the cause by offering financial and emotional backing to many great causes. An example was her funding of a school’s building programme for diasdvantaged girls on the African continent.

    Black entertainers generally speaking payback their community and offer life time opportunities to members of their families. No doubt, a small number of them would have become academics within the Science sphere and beyond.

    Those individuals who became scientists under their own steam should be loudly applauded. However the majority of these individuals will never reach out to the disadvantage groups from which they evolved. They are more likely to isolate themselves and live, breath and socialise with their immediate peers rather than extend a hand to their people.

    Black entertainers should not be looked down on. Rather, they should be seen as a group of individuals who can bring fundamental and positive changes to the life of many individuals especially to those who come from underprivileged backgrounds.

  38. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Piece the Prophet May 14, 2020 4:59 AM
    “Another kindred spirit arises and holds their Sekhem Sceptre up and irradiates the world.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wow! Must you go that deep Master Piece in searching for that black diamond of knowledge and wisdom needed for the salvation of the black race now lost in the desert of Time?

    Now you understand why the white man uses the word ‘black’ to describe, classify and paint all things bad or negative; except when he is counting his profits.

    If only the likes of the little cocky Khaleel Kothdiwala can see the light of wisdom radiating from this old gem of a man.

    But we both know the most effective way to keep a people in subjugation is to make them dependent on others for their day-to-day economic survival; if not their false gods.

  39. Robert Avatar
    Robert

    @ Greene

    Why return to that topic? I admitted to saying that Hal Austin should be banned for describing HUMAN BEINGS as ANIMALS.

    That man said people should debate issues instead of resorting to personal attacks and abuse. People on BU does disagree with one another every day, but they don’t go down into the gutter like Hal Austin. All somebody has to do is to prove him wrong or disagree with him and he calls them WILD BARKING DOGS, WILD BEAST AND SAVAGES THAT SHOULD BE IN THE JUNGLE, PREDATORS, HYENAS, BILLY GOATS.

    Then we are SILLY, APPALLINGLY IGNORANT BUFFOONS and KEY BOARD WARRIORS that LEARN BY ROTE. After the personal abuse and attacks he warned against, he would want to come back early the next morning to interact with the same people he personally abused and attacked and expect them to be cordial and polite with him.

    If you like people calling you an animal, that is your choice. The problem with people like you is that you are a deceitful hypocrite.

  40. GP Avatar
    GP

    re because I feel that you know better, that hypertension is the patient’s fault. That if people would only discipline themselves they would not become hypertensive.

    THIS IS JUST NOT TRUE! LOTS OF HYPERTENSION IS NOT THE PATIENTS FAULT!
    SOME IS CAUSED BY CONGENITAL PATHOLOGY AND LOTS OF IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE IDIOPATHIC
    LOTS OF HYPERTENSIVES ARE VERY DISCIPLINED

  41. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @Robert Lucas

    quote] The data on NCD would seem to indicate that there is a lack of responsibility.[unquote

    i like how you cherry pick part of my submission totally eschewing the rest. what about the data re the navajo nation? what does the data say about those who died in Italy, France, Germany, Spain?

    for a scientist, it seems as though you dont dig beyond the superficial into social / political matters. this is as much a social matter as it is a medical one.

    listen wheel and come again. tell me, what is your particular animus when it comes to blacks? this isnt the first time i have heard you make silly statements in this regard?

  42. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    @ Talking loud and saying nothing

    Uncharacteristically you said the following and I quote

    “…However the majority of these individuals will never reach out to the disadvantage groups from which they evolved.

    They are more likely to isolate themselves and live, breath and socialise with their immediate peers rather than extend a hand to their people…”

    Rhi Rhi and Oprah are like village dwellers who create a tasty wine that is used in the environs of the village.

    Scientists, while they do not have the glorious distribution media of NBC or Nation Z distribution labels ARE WORLD DENIZENS because they create solutions for the world!

    They do not need the accolades that drive these other persons

    Inn fact most scientists and contributors WILL RUN FROM SUCH ACCLAIM because it is not in their nature

    They do not do it for laud, it is done because you recognize the God in Each of US!

    One does not really care for the laurels and the laureates, the greatest gift is in creating the gift itself, but then again de ole man recognizes that few of you can understand that concept SINCE YOU NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE!

  43. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    You aid here Honourable Blogmaster

  44. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ Piece the Prophet

    ” Ambulance personnel confirmed the three people in a house at River Land, St Philip, were all dead on the scene.”

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/245537/update-shot-killed-river-land

  45. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    First to you @Greene… You say you are Brit resident but your post at 4:46 PM y’day was all NY, NY: it was so good it posted twice!
    I don’t know if you play small ball tennis style games, but I particularly liked that back-hand slam down the line … sublimely wonderful shot to bring an ‘ooohh’ from the crowds at the Arthur Ashe stad with … *”man, beyond science and agriculture which you are great at, you seem to examine issues as ***deeply as a plate of water”*** 🙂

    Now senor @Pieces: brother you are throwing up a lot of ‘intellectual dishonesty’ for a man of your obvious astute awareness… and as a technical/software developing/logistics providing savant and pragmatist who HAS to study consumers in order to produce the expert work you have done that becomes VERY noticeable quickly!

    How can you validate your remark viz “I was very ashamed to see how frequently we blacks, across the world, in general, and in Barbados, in particular, were so disposed to kill each other…I was not advancing any doctrine of my self hate for fellow blacks…
    I was speaking a fact about our hate of self and disposition to kill each other like cattle at an abattoir of life!”

    Greene responded well above to this line of strange reasoning so I simply add by asking: how do you or any of us modulate that most singular of human emotion you describe as “our hate of self”? And then tell me brother how do we modulate and change it by racial or ethnicity composition?

    Blacks kill Blacks because we live cheek and jowl with each other and thus we are the ones who ‘barrack’ one anudder, steal each other’s woman or man, drug up each other and all those things that can lead to homicide!… They do that (crime generally) at NO exponentially or even linear greater way (when examined properly) than those of any other community… and let’s add: outside the gun happy USA!

    We know as factual that we form our ‘world-view’ relatively early in life and once locked in we simply then explore and digest the data that reinforces that… clearly what some have done here and continue to do… I actually thought you were one of the cohort of people who continued to expose yourself to new reading and data and refused to allow yourself to be trapped into that type of mental laziness… being the expert technical man you are looking for that next virally positive graphic or meme!

  46. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    @ brother Hants

    The man-chile Khaleel needs to see that link immediately on the Senator Caswell blog cause he was saying that the Deputy CoP was being hired to stop these murders

  47. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Hants, I read a story recently of a man who admitted to his toddler’s mother that he was indeed married for the over 10 years and had two children with his wife… this, after being with the girlfriend as her one and only for over five years of that decade of marriage.

    The young lady was devastated the report affirmed, and it noted that amorous couple (well she was clearly) were deep in conversations about getting married and ready to start the proverbial fairy-tale romantic life together.

    I say all that to ask say this: if that lady’s father or a brother had been so incensed at that depraved deceit to crazily visit the pathologically lying dude home then the NationNews report could have been the actual one summarizing that tale of despair, hurt and anger.

    And oh, yes… all participants of my report above were Black.

    Life is a joy to behold but filled with grievous pain and mayhem…for Blacks, Whites, Asians or Others!

  48. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    (Quote):
    listen wheel and come again. tell me, what is your particular animus when it comes to blacks? this isnt the first time i have heard you make silly statements in this regard? (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Doctor Bricky Lucas, are you going to take this kind of hammering from that Green(e) fellow but uppity ‘Cawmerian’ of unripe vintage?

    Since you can’t bring convincing scientific justification for this particular animus towards blacks (the white man’s burden) we better get Dr. GP, the mad scientist, on the job to bring his Bible of eschatological evidence to bear on this rainbow of a conundrum.

    Is it a Darwinian evolutionary outcome of the survival of the fittest or an ‘evil’ curse from Yahweh as demanded by Noah on his black son Ham?

  49. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @Miller

    dont get between me and Robert Lucas. that is my go to guy on matters agricultural for which i am most grateful. he has been a god sent in that regard.

    up and on RL

  50. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Greene May 14, 2020 9:40 AM

    Just trying to be a ‘partisan’ referee.

    If you object to RL’s view about the status of blacks in the racial ranking how then do you explain, scientifically or otherwise, the continuing status of blacks at the bottom of the socio-economic barrel?

    Even the brown Indians and yellow Orientals (or even the same Navajo) have a penchant of seeing blacks as their inferiors.

    Your friend Mr. “Spot On” can verify what you yourself have also witnessed over the years in Limey land.

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