Acting Prime Minister Santia Bradshaw just declared in a national address that 45 positive cases have been identified infected with COVID 19.
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Fellow?
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We must not let them do to Keith what they did to Kamau. They see the Diaspora as disposable. Let’s make it happen.
Fellow???? I am fond of some Canadians.
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@Hal
a Keith Sandiford taught me at school. is it the same one? he was dark skinned and taught English Lit and History.
i have read Keith Sandiford’s work about the early years of Combermere and even quoted some here.
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Greene
I don’t think so. He taught at Roebuck Street (now the Transport Board) in 1955. He is now in his 80s.
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@Greene
he was a professor at the University of Manitoba…..but… there are two persons with the same name, about a decade apart in age, who are both Barbadians, historians and teachers/professors. The younger one, taught at Cawmere. The one of which @HA speaks is a prolific author, and loves his cricket and wrote extensively on the the sport and its personalities -
@ Northern
The older one also taught at Combermere. Very generous with his knowledge, of which I am a beneficiary. He did not teach me.
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Donna
April 3, 2020 1:22 PMJohn, you really need to give it a rest. Who spread the other pandemics???
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Only looked at COVID and flu flu numbers.
You should try looking at them but appreciate not many can deal with numbers.
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CURRICULUM VITAE
NAME: KEITH ARLINGTON PATRICK SANDIFORD
DATE OF BIRTH: 2 March 1936
PLACE OF BIRTH: Bridgetown, Barbados, West Indies
CITIZENSHIP: Canadian
MARITAL STATUS: Married (12 October 1963)
CHILDREN: Two: son (born 1966) and daughter (born 1970)
ACADEMIC TRAINING:
Bay Street Boys’ School (Elementary), Barbados (1941-46)
Combermere School (Secondary), Barbados (1947-55)
University College of the West Indies (UCWI), Jamaica (1956-60)
University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada (1960-64)CERTIFICATES AND DEGREES:
1952 School Certificate (Ordinary Level, G.C.E. London)
1953 Higher School Certificate (Advanced Level, G.C.E. London)
1957 Intermediate B.A. (UCWI-London)
1960 B.A. Honours, History (UCWI-London)
1961 M.A. History (Toronto)
1966 PhD. History (Toronto)PRIZES AND AWARDS:
1947 Progressive League Scholarship to Combermere School
1956 Barbados Government Scholarship to UCWI
1957 First Year Arts Faculty Prize, UCWI
1959 American History Prize, UCWI1960 British Commonwealth Scholarship to Canada
1963 Province of Ontario Graduate Fellowship
1968 Canada Council Grant
1973 University of Manitoba Research Grant
1979 University of Manitoba Research Grant
1980 University of Manitoba Research Grant
1985 SSHRC Research Grant
1986 SSHRC Research Grant
1987 Meritorious Service Plaque (Afro-Caribbean Association of Manitoba)
1990 University of Manitoba Outreach Award
1991 Multicultural History Society of Ontario Award of Excellence
1991 University of Manitoba Merit Award for Excellent Teaching
1992 Barbados Cricket Association Award for Contributions to Cricket History
1992 UM/SSHRC Research Grant
1992 University of Manitoba Merit Award for Outstanding Service
1993 Meritorious Service Plaque (Barbados Association of Winnipeg)
1995 Combermere School Heritage Award for Contributions to the Combermere Community (Presented by the Combermere School Old Scholars’ Association)
2000 Black History Month Committee (Winnipeg) Award for Lifetime of Achievement and Contribution
2001 Community Service Award (Caribbean Millennium Community Project Committee) for Outstanding Service to the Caribbean Community for More Than 25 Years
2002 Combermere School Old Scholars’ Association Award
2004 GOLD CROWN OF MERIT (GCM) awarded by the Government of Barbados “in recognition of his contribution to education and community service”.TEACHING EXPERIENCE:
1955-56 Teacher, Combermere School, Barbados
1955-56 Lecturer, Modern History, Barbados Evening Institute
1962-64 Tutor, Modern British History, University of Toronto
1964 Lecturer, Summer Session, University of Toronto
1964-65 Lecturer, York University, Toronto
1965-66 Lecturer (part-time), University of Toronto
1966-70 Assistant Professor, History, University of Manitoba
1967 Instructor, Summer Session, University of Toronto
1970-82 Associate Professor, History, University of Manitoba
1982-98 Professor, History, University of Manitoba
1998 Adjunct Professor, University of Winnipeg
1999-2002 Senior Scholar, University of Manitoba
2002 Professor Emeritus of History, University of Manitoba -
John
April 3, 2020 4:50 PMDonna
April 3, 2020 1:22 PM
John, you really need to give it a rest. Who spread the other pandemics???
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Only looked at COVID and flu flu numbers.
You should try looking at them but appreciate not many can deal with numbers.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Assume the flu flu spread is natural.
The differential is remarkable.
Some thing unnatural about the spread of COVID!!
Simple to see.
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@HA
you can confuse anybody…lol
First you tell @Greene, you don’t think the elder taught at Cawmere, but at Roebuck, now you are telling us he did?I have no idea, for I met him for the first time just before 2000, as I recall the pending Y2K discussion we had, and talk about cricketers. He is an authority on cricket, particularly the BCL and the WI teams of the 50’s and early 60’s. A visit to his University office after, yielded he also wrote on topics to History in and of West Indians.
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@ Northern
Apologies. Combermere used to be in Roebuck St, in the building now occupied by the Transport Board. That’s where he taught.
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@Northern
Believe it or not i understood exactly what Hal meant. Cawmere used to be where Transport Board is before moving to Waterford. so Hal was was trying to tell me this Sandiford taught at the Roebuck Street Cawmere and not at Waterford. It is a Cawmere thing lol
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`Gladstone and Europe’, in Bruce L. Kinzer, ed. The Gladstonian Turn of Mind (University of Toronto Press, 1985), 177-96.
`100 Years of Organized Cricket in Barbados, 1892-1992′, in Sir Carlisle A. Burton, Ronald G. Hughes & Keith A. P. Sandiford, eds. 100 Years of Organised Cricket in Barbados, 1892-1992 (Barbados Cricket Association: Bridgetown, 1992), 5-9. Reprinted, in slightly revised form, in The Journal of the Cricket Society (Autumn 1992), Volume 16, Number 1: 16-21.
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`Innovations in Manitoba’ {with NICK CUMBERBATCH & HAROLD MARSHALL} in Vincent D’Oyley, ed. Innovations in Black Education in Canada (Umbrella Press: Toronto, 1994), 98-107.
`Cricket in the West Indies: The Rocky Road to Test Status’, in Hilary McD. Beckles, ed. A Spirit of Dominance: Cricket and Nationalism in the West Indies (Press University of the West Indies: Kingston, Jamaica, 1998), 16-44.
`Introduction’, in Brian Stoddart & Keith A.P. Sandiford, eds. The Imperial Game: Cricket, Culture and Society (Manchester University Press, 1998), 1-8.
`England’, Ibid, 9-33.
`Rt Excellent Sir Garfield St Auburn Sobers’, in Francis W. Blackman, ed. For the Love of Country: The National Heroes of Barbados (National Cultural Foundation of Barbados: Bridgetown, 2001), 129-142.
`Cricket and a Crisis of Identity in the Anglophone Caribbean’, in Adrian Smith and Dilwyn Porter, eds. Sport and National Identity in the Post-War World (Routledge: London & New York, 2004), 128-144.
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Practical Ideas For Classroom Teaching (Published as a pamphlet by the Department of History, University of Manitoba, June 1990).
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Everton DeCourcey Weekes: His Record Innings-by-Innings (Published by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians: Nottingham, 1995). This is Pamphlet No. 29 in the ACSH `Famous Cricketers’ Series.
Clyde Leopold Walcott: His Record Innings-by-Innings (Published by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians: Nottingham, 1996). This is Pamphlet No. 33 in the ACSH `Famous Cricketers’ Series.
Frank Mortimer Maglinne Worrell: His Record Innings-by-Innings (Published by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians: Nottingham, 1997). This is Pamphlet No. 37 in the ACSH `Famous Cricketers’ Series.
Gary Sobers: His Record Innings-by-Innings (Published by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians: Nottingham, 1998). This is Pamphlet No. 42 in the ACSH `Famous Cricketers’ Series.
Wesley Winfield Hall: His Record Innings-by-Innings (Published by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians: Nottingham, 2001). This is Pamphlet No. 61 in the ACSH `Famous Cricketers’ Series.
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J.D.C. Goddard: His Record Innings-by-Innings (Published by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians: Nottingham, 2002). This is Pamphlet No. 71 in the ACSH `Famous Cricketers’ Series.
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`The Great Victorian Prison Experiment: A Critique’, Proceedings of the Second Annual Northern Great Plains History Conference (University of Manitoba, 1967), 59-64.
`A Comment on the Origins and the Establishment of the British Civil Service Commission’, ibid., 74-75.
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@Northern, and you should have gotten that nuance as well🤣… As those of us who have many cawmere friends know (was just ‘drinking’ with two famous ones and their Kolig bro) that School was also at the Garrison!
And too re Keith Sandiford the younger he is a prof in US now…cant recall the School…and the elder Sandiford also wrote a historical a/c of the Combermere School.
I was gifted a copy many years ago!
I gone.
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I was at the Walk Mall at Welches, St. Thomas this morning at about 10:30, the people shopping at the big box store which name I can never remember, and at IMart were in orderly lines about 6 feet from each other. A good number had brought their umbrellas to shield themselves from the heat of the sun. The parking lot was almost but not quite full, as some people had parked in the lots of the nearby fast food place, and hardware store which were both closed, so I was able to move around without any close encounters of the COVID-19 kind (I hope). I wanted to buy some fruit as I was running low, but because of the long lines I left without buying anything as I know that 2 weeks or 2 months without fruit won’t klll me. i do have some green and yellow vegetables on hand and some ground provisions which I bought from a village shop as well as some frozen cassava and sweet potato which I grew myself in the rainy season.
Little Johnnie picked up 3 or 4 necessities from the shop in the village where we were both raised.
My mangoes ripen starting the second week of May, and it is a very, very generous tree. Small fruit but very sweet and mellow.
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@DPD
met an oldster at our reunion one year and the man told me i didnt go to the school i went to the garrison. so i asked if you went to the garrison why you come to our reunion to which he replied, “Cawmere at the Garrison, youngster.” we had a right laff but then i had to listen to a half hour of reminiscence.
do you know how many HC and other old school fellas and ladies come to our reunion? man, plenty. say they are jealous of our camaraderie lol. lots of drinks and shiite talk
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John
April 3, 2020 4:55 PMJohn
April 3, 2020 4:50 PM
Donna
April 3, 2020 1:22 PM
John, you really need to give it a rest. Who spread the other pandemics???
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Only looked at COVID and flu flu numbers.
You should try looking at them but appreciate not many can deal with numbers.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Assume the flu flu spread is natural.
The differential is remarkable.
Some thing unnatural about the spread of COVID!!
Simple to see.+++++++++++++++++++++++++
All the experts advising Trump revising their models and guesstimates.
How those crazy predictions passed them is beyond me.
Trump probably straightened them out.
Once you have experience with numbers you just get a feel for them.
Trump is a boss at numbers!!
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God is a Bajan!
Our leader is well again. She looks better than ever.
I’m sure she’ll lead us through this difficult time.
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Here is the scale of the human migration to the US over the period in question.
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@HA
appreciate the clarification….I guess then it turns out that both Keith Sandifords taught at Cawmere.
My grandfather went there, but pre Roebuck, I think he told me where Queen’s College used to be. Or was it as @DIW noted, at the Garrison? -
Stable genius or what?
“If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs …!!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-media-change-tune-trump-attacks-coronavirus-china-travel-ban
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@ Northern
Opposite Queen’s Park. Yes, both taught at the old school. But it is Keith, the elder, that we must press for to be knighted in recognition of his huge contribution, not only as an historian, but as a community activist and public intellectual. Bajans tend to treat the Diaspora as out of sight, out of mind, until they want a Gatherin’.
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In California with twice the population of New York 285 people died from COVID-19.
In New York, 3,218 are dead.
10X.
California is a port of entry from China.
I don’t know the difference in numbers entering through California vs New York but there is a month between the first case being reported in California and the first reported in New York.
If numbers of travelers explain the difference then one would expect that most people from China entered the US through SFO and LAX.
California reported its first case on 26 January, 5 days before the Trump ban.
It was the third case in the US.
The first case in New York was 1st March, 2020, more than a month later.
New York exploded thereafter.
California did not.
The first case in Italy was 31 January, 2020.
In Spain it was 31 January 2020 followed by disaster.
In England it was 22 January 2020.
In Taiwan it was 21 January 2020, 5 deaths so far.
New York is a month behind.
An argument could be made that the genie was released from the lamp at two different times.
It could also be argued that the health services in differing places are differently capable.
There is also the argument that the population demographics, age, sex, smokers is a factor.
The differences in times between California and New York is cause for concern.
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The first case in South Korea was 20 January, 2020, 6 days before California reported.
South Korea has 177 deaths in a population of 51.5 million.
California has 285 deaths in a population of 40 million.
New York is 10 X.
Pause for a moment and think!!
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What about India?
First case reported 30 January 2020.
Population 1.3 billion.
China population about the same.
India seems to be on another planet.
The outbreaks appear targeted.
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@John
continually searching for something which makes sense? too many arguments? too many unknowns. How can CA and NY be so different? Gotta sep NYCity from NYState and look beyond China arrivals and festivals. -
India, Taiwan??
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20 patients on 1000 bed Hospital ship in New York.
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John,
Los Angeles population density is 8,000 per square mile.
New York city has a population density of 26,000 per square mile.
You are focusing on numbers, how could you miss this, which is the most critical one for contagion?
It was obvious from the beginning that New York city was highly vulnerable to this, due to the population density.
Any area of density is vulnerable.
There is a warning in the for all countries too. I mean all. Read between the lines.
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India, Taiwan, have some sort of immunity perhaps?
California has more contacts with China so maybe largely immune?
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Crusoe
April 4, 2020 3:28 AMJohn,
Los Angeles population density is 8,000 per square mile.
New York city has a population density of 26,000 per square mile.
You are focusing on numbers, how could you miss this, which is the most critical one for contagion?
It was obvious from the beginning that New York city was highly vulnerable to this, due to the population density.
Any area of density is vulnerable.
There is a warning in the for all countries too. I mean all. Read between the lines.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
India, Taiwan?
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Milan, Madrid?
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Manila, Seoul …?
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Philippines have 136 deaths, Manila is most densely populated city on earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population_density
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Naples is more densely populated than Milan.
Barcelona vs Madrid? Similar populations, not sure of sizes.
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@Northern, I don’t know the full chronology (I should search that Sandiford book with all this time on hand) re locations but due to my years in Bajan scouting I can add a little tidbit…
There is (certainly used to be) a plaque on that old QC site validating it as the founding location of Bdos first scout troop… And which school had that distinction of first patrol and troop: Combermere.
Ipso facto… It was once located right there also !
Maybe your granddad was one of Lord Baden Powell’s early Bajans scouts!
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@ Hal April 4, 2020 2:26 AM
“Opposite Queen’s Park. Yes, both taught at the old school. But it is Keith, the elder, that we must press for to be knighted in recognition of his huge contribution”What is this talk of Knighthoods? I hope you are not serious.
The younger Sandiford went to Combermere, we were in sixth form together when I did modern studies. He got a scholarship to one of the Universities in Puerto Rico. The last time I saw him was in the area near ST.Mary’s Church. At that time he was a professor of English at Louisiana State University. Told me that I should leave the island, that any one who exercised critical thought ran into trouble.
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John,
Apart from naming cities, what is your point? All of those have a quarter or less the population density of New York. A couple far less than even that.
But well done naming countries, cities.
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David,
Seeing as we cannot do so the at the physical one, I will follow DR.GP who has gone AWOL and call it, the BU Rumshop, rum and coke for me please.
Doorlys or Cockpur, none of that bourgeoisie stuff for me please. I am a simple fellow.
While you are at it, pour one each for Yardfowl and Bonnie Peppa. Good time to remember them.
Thank you Sir.
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Sigh!
To @ John Soliloquy… Re “20 patients on 1000 bed Hospital ship in New York.”
And this is to tell us what?
The hospital ship is supposed -according to published reports- handle non Covid19 patients…
That only 20 cases have been so far transferred is a big deal why?
And why are we nitpicking this type of non- issue.
Why don’t you ask why your stable genius FIRED the INDEPENDENT watchdog Inspector General of the Intel Services!
Firing the FBI director was egregious …BUT we moved on … now this career civil servant whose role is to investigate and report on infelicities WITHOUT any political favor being terminated because he reported against the POTUS.
Incredible !
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@Crusoe
Wishing all the best to you and family. The blogmaster prefers a little brandy these day.
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John,
Per above, with one exception where your are correct, Manila. However, there are two issues comparing New York with Manila.
The first, is whether the deaths are accurately reported as being due to coronavirus as the resources to test or check on deaths are substantially less. The second, the president of that country has given the forces shoot to kill orders for those who breach curfew.
Quite a difference in approach and what outcome could you then expect, but less infections and deaths attributed to the virus.
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david
April 4, 2020 7:05 AMLikewise Sir, to you and your family. Enjoy your brandy.
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On a real serious note. UK must change their history books to educate their own people TO THE TRUTH
..then all of Europe will follow. Yall have been ALSO lying to ya own people for centuries, the truth must be told.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1997560273677539&id=1939203956179838&sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e
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@ Robert
Keith senior should be awarded the nation’s top award. We must not only celebrated second rate lawyer/politicians, but people of outstanding qualities otherwise, such as education and community activism. Keith senior meets all these qualities.
Keith junior was right about being crucified for developing critical qualities. -
Crusoe
April 4, 2020 7:07 AMThe first, is whether the deaths are accurately reported as being due to coronavirus as the resources to test or check on deaths are substantially less. The second, the president of that country has given the forces shoot to kill orders for those who breach curfew.
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Classification is clearly an issue.
A person dying from COVID-19 who also has flu or who dies from flu and has COVID-19 or who dies from respiratory ailments is still dead.
Look at the classification for deaths in New York or any other state online.
In Manila, people shot by security forces won’t be classified as COVID-19 deaths!!
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de pedantic Dribbler
April 4, 2020 7:02 AMSigh!
To @ John Soliloquy… Re “20 patients on 1000 bed Hospital ship in New York.”
And this is to tell us what?
The hospital ship is supposed -according to published reports- handle non Covid19 patients…++++++++++++++++++++
DUUUUUH
Tells us 20 beds needed to be made available for COVID-19 sufferers!!
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Seven out of 10 of the top ten causes of death in New York are from Comorbid conditions involved.
EG, HEART DISEASE the top cause claimed 44K in 2019, FLU/PENEUMONIA, #6 claimed 4,5K.
HYPERTENSION, #9, claimed 2.7K.
COVID-19 supposedly account for 3,218 deaths.
If a person with COVID-19 dies because his/her heart stopped beating, and he/she also has heart disease, how is the death attributed?
It is possible that if another cause of death is created the total deaths in New York may be no different from normal!!
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/newyork/newyork.htm
FOR SURE CLASSIFICATION OF CAUSE OF DEATH IS AN ISSUE.
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“Tells us 20 beds needed to be made available for COVID-19 sufferers!!’ 🤣🤣😂
You have waaaayy too much time on your hands… that’s the purpose of the ship … to free up beds…so your stating THE OBVIOUS is now the thing! 👍🏿
BTW I had a vision (dream) last night…strange one too …not sure if that’s my COVID final call …anyhow I said that to segue to: what were your visions last evening? Your post and retort re the hospital ship suggests they may have been over-bearing🤔!
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