Shooting Advisory – A Time to ACT

The blogmaster thought long and hard about posting the following incident which occurred on the weekend at the Charles Rowe Bridge gas station in St. George. In a nutshell two youngsters got into an argument inside the gas station and the video captures the the decision to resolve.

Again the shooting incidents in recent months by our young men expose our society on many fronts. As a society we have failed to inculcate the right values in some of our young people. Whatever the reason we can theorize, we have reached the tipping point. A short term strategy must be put in place to deal with the situation. Obviously the youngsters have no regard for lives. No regard for collateral damage caused by an ability to shoot straight. No capacity to exercise reasonableness.

The blogmaster with reluctance recommends uncompromising enforcement measures. The government MUST impose an emergency plan to arrest increasing gun violence on the island. The youngsters committing these crimes have passed the point of no return, fire power must be met with fire power. The namby pamby approach currently be adopted will not work.

As a society we must fight back. NOW.

The bad boys must be taken out!

 

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  • All the signs of a failed state
    The revolving question. How did the guns get into the question
    So easy to go after the youth but what about the big mafia cartel that make plans for bringing the guns into the country
    What about them
    Why are did not being hunted down and thrown into jail
    As long their is a source the crime would increase

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  • Correction”how did the guns get into the country”

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  • The car looks to be a hired car.

    My imagination?

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  • Is that the only question you are capable of asking? If they did not have access to guns do you think they would not be violent? In England knives crime is on the rise, why? The weapon does not have a mind of its own.

    The other thing you and Spot On do well, ascribe labels.

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  • Well from my vantage point the guns are what the youth and criminal mind have been using to kill each other in barbados
    One can only speak to the fact and the fact reveals that guns are the weapon of choice used by the criminal
    Which begs the question who are the master minds of the sourcing of guns
    Why is there no emphasis placed on finding these criminals of sourcing who for all intent and purposes are bound and determined to destroy barbados social environment

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  • Looks like there were guns in the car.

    What processes are followed by the car rental agencies?

    If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?

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  • We continue to focus on the symptoms.

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  • Can anyone rent a car or is age a factor?

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  • @David,

    remember that post i did one time about likely solutions to this problem? all we do in Bim is talk and talk and more talk.

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  • The blogmaster with reluctance recommends uncompromising enforcement measures. The government MUST impose an emergency plan to arrest increasing gun violence on the island. The youngsters committing these crimes have passed the point of no return, fire power must be met with fire power. The namby pamby approach currently be adopted will not work.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Identify the perpetrators and get them out of circulation.

    That means thorough detective work.

    The Big Brother approach to keeping tabs on data is one “uncompromising enforcement measure”!!

    Profiling may be a bad word but it works.

    I was robbed once at gun point and a single detective interviewed me for a few moments before the statement details were worked out with officer.

    I reckon that single first interview for a few minutes profiled the perpetrator and focused the police.

    They had him in 10 days and he confessed not only to the crime against me but to others the police linked by understanding his MO.

    Violent criminals are often identifiable by their modus operandi but good records and sharp minds need to be available.

    If rented cars are being used then examining records of car rentals around the time of a violent crime might lead to an apprehension quickly.

    Unfortunately that might mean observation of profiled persons by police who rent cars.

    The downside.

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  • @ Mariposa January 28, 2020 6:19 AM
    “how did the guns get into the country”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The most pertinent question to be asked in this whole massively profitable trade!

    Why not say they were ‘brought’ to Barbados like the proverbial stork delivering ‘bastard’ babies; just out of the ‘blue’?

    Those guns couldn’t have been brought to the 2×3 island via airplanes.

    The stupid boys stashing those illegal weapons are the mere ‘suckers’ of the final consumers in the food chain of money-making from black monkeys playing with guns.
    And it is those same ‘monkey-playing wild boys’ and the innocent bystanders who will pay the final price.

    It is rather interesting to see how consumer items like condemned chicken wings can find themselves ‘commingled’ with dispensers of death and second-hand car cargo.

    Karma is Muhammad holding an AK 2020 and pointed at a cash register on a ‘Swan’ street.

    The blind of Religion is the biggest con game ever invented by criminals!

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  • @Greene

    After the robbery at KFC headquarters, some idiot from the police reminded corporate Barbados that their security teams had a right to guns by law.
    In Bajan reasoning, all it takes to get rid of the bad guys with guns is a good guy with a gun. Straight out of the Trump manual. This world class government, punching above its weight, is caught like a hare in oncoming headlights. It is an ideas-free space. The rule of law has collapsed, outside Bridgetown, when last have you seen a policeman walking the beat in Barbados?

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  • “The most pertinent question to be asked in this whole massively profitable trade!

    Why not say they were ‘brought’ to Barbados like the proverbial stork delivering ‘bastard’ babies; just out of the ‘blue’?”

    You have no idea how pertinent and RELEVANT that observation and question.

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  • “The blind of Religion is the biggest con game ever invented by criminals!”

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  • @Greene

    The time for talk is at an end. Lawlessness has taken root in every sphere of life in Barbados. The relationships that exist in Jamaica for example between the directorate and criminal element have emerged. A very dangerous sign indeed.

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  • David,

    it ended years ago but we dont like to act. we luv long talk. look out for more diagnosis and blame placement as Bim burns.

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  • @Greene

    Does Barbados need a TT like CoP?

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  • We also have to address corruption at the highest levels.

    If a thieving politician exists the yokels all become empowered.

    Deal with the corrupt ruthlessly and the yokels will get the message.

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  • I see a video of what transpired outside of the gas station, there must be a video of what took place inside the Gas Station and the culprits should be readily identified did the Police make an arrest?

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  • @Sargeant

    The police are asking for public assistance based on a Nation report. It suggests nothing of value was captured on the inside.

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  • PoorPeacefulandPolite

    I can’t help suspecting that firearms originating in Venezuela where they are plentiful are sold cheaply first to Trinidadian fishermen who in turn transfer them at sea onto Barbados registered fishing vessels. The dollar differential between Bolivars and US dollars, and the ease with which a fisherman can bring weapons ashore seems to offer a safe and lucrative route.

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  • @David

    They spent time milling around the inside presumably some confrontation occurred which led to the shooting yuh mean to tell me that if the place was robbed “nothing of value” would be captured?

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  • @Sargeant

    Simply reporting what is recorded in the press.

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  • To me it looks like the car brought 3 of them.

    Two of them went inside.

    The guy in the white shirt appears on the scene with 2 of them inside.

    One of the two go outside to get a weapon from the car.

    The guy in the white shirt then comes out shooting.

    Doesn’t seem to be a hold up.

    Looks like the guy in white figured his enemies potentially had him cornered.

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  • Looks like the guy in the white shirt hit the guy in the yellow shirt.

    There should be a car somewhere, perhaps a rental car, with blood on the inside.

    The third guy in the green shirt took off after the guy in the white shirt, OR, he is distancing himself from the car and its two occupants.

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  • The guy in the yellow shirt perhaps left some blood by the pump … may be useful to identify him.

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  • Police need to look at Chefette camera footage.

    Looks like that is where guy in white shirt ran.

    Possibly he was in a car following the one with the 3 guys and if so it had to park somewhere.

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  • @ David,

    in my humble opinion Bim needs effective policing. the cops in Bim appear to be afraid of engagement. it seems to me they think it is not worth it- meaning that the problem is because drug dealers are backed by people in high society, police and their families will be targeted for reprisals, the politicians and top brass dont care about police welfare and in any event they are not paid enough. usually police know exactly what is going on and that invitation of drug dealers to parliament must have confirmed all their worst fears.

    effective leadership doesnt mean being out their on the streets like the TT CoP. it means that the CoP makes sure the service is fully resourced for the challenges wrt proper equipment and training, good intelligence, the right leadership and personnel at these raids, and first class investigation for prosecution

    to me what he is doing is BS. and he seems to overcompensating for his inexperience; he was not a policeman, i dont think, so to make himself look effective to the rank and file he goes on raids. who runs the service if he is out there at every raid? suppose there is engagement and he has to shoot someone? suppose he is shot? suppose something goes down and there has to be an internal investigation as to the police use of force?

    re Bim i think this CoP should retire or should be retired; he is doing nothing. equally i dont the politicians know what they are doing either. nobody is even talking about these shootings and murders. it is as if we think if we dont address it, it will go away. the AG is as silent as Freundel and big talker MAM is even worse. we are in dire straits

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    David Mr Blogmaster, a few comments.

    …Are you familiar with a company called Clearview AI? Read an article on their face recog debase validity and it freaking blew my mind. My first thought was oh how can I be their local agent (@ PIECES right up your sweet spot bro, seriously) and then my next thought was ‘Damn, this would shut down a lot of this bad boy nonsense in Bim.’

    In sum, their face recog app is very powerful and using (somewhat ‘illegally’) the vast troves of images on social media they can match faces to names with outstanding success. Thus, videos we have all seen of young gangsters showing off their weapons (the guy who was killed at the school gate recently was a star in one such video) almost sutomatically become confessions of gun possession…

    That would start the clean up toute suite!… BUT… The problematic part of the article was the headline: The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It

    2.Bro, this is a BLOG… we traffic in ‘talk’…others deal did ‘action😂’ !…. But seriously tho, your remarks echo a piece from Olotuye Waldron… he too strongly opined that The bad boys must be taken out!.

    I hear him and you and all others but I don’t get how that works JUST so. @Hal makes the blunt counterpoint to that style of operation: do we stage a good guy with gun against a bad with gun warfare!

    Obviously the authorities are struggling to corral the crime increase but the blunt point David is that the rot stems from within… you can’t attack this problem from outside and expect grand success.

    Respectfully to @Greene or any other but obviously the solution set is well KNOWN the problem has always been the strength of character and ‘political will’ to implement forcefull ‘search and seizures’, border interdiction (customs detailed camera usage) and purposeful prosecutions . Those are principal top line thrusts.

    So Mr Blogmaster, I wish you and others well with aggressively taking out these so called bad boys… and if you get a Burroughs style (don’t know the name of the current TnT John Wayne) CoP here in Bim then I wish us all doubly safe journeys heading into that hail of ‘fight fire with fire’!

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  • All of them already known to police.

    The story about argument inside the gas station is bogus. They are know to each other the time between the shooter entered the store and the other two came out for their guns is too short for and argument now started to lead to lead flying.

    The one that got shot and his pals balls should be squeezed until they give up the shooter and where they got their guns from etc. then the buts should be lost away in prison for the max allowed by law.

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  • @Greene

    Thanks, always interesting input on law and order matters. Interesting to read a report recently of police grumbling about being identified while doing their jobs, especially task force personnel.

    @Dee Word

    If you have a cancer in the body often time you have to remove it to stop the spread. Sometime the action causes a price to be paid by the body, losing a limb etc. Thiis where we are, leave the talk at the door.

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  • Of the 78 homicides in Toronto in 2019, 44 of them were gun related. That’s not counting the hundreds of others who were injured over the year.

    With this in mind, Mayor John Tory will sit down with mayors and police chiefs from across the GTA, as well as representatives from other levels of government, on Tuesday at a regional meeting on gun violence.

    https://www.680news.com/2020/01/28/toronto-mayor-police-chiefs-gun-violence/

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  • The guns and drugs problem in Barbados should be considered to be a National security threat and dealt with accordingly.

    Right now the gun violence is black on black but if a big up or tourist get shot?????

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Respectfully bro, but BEFORE any limb removal there must be appropriate talk. Then the limb must be carefully and surgically removed…not butchered ‘off any old how’.

    I get it that there is cancer and being ‘cervically challenged ‘ 🤣 my medical knowledge is minimal …however I am not aware that external excisions can ever CURE a metastasizing cancer!

    You may be right that the limb has to go as its withered but what after that sir…what’s the strategy to arrest the cancer inside and as importantly prevent or retard the spread of the cancer to others.

    BTW…task force or SWAT personnel invariably deal with the baddest of the bad. I would NOT as a task forces officer do a raid of dangerous drug gangs unless I pulled on a face mask, dark glasses or other means to hide my identity.

    The days when criminals did NOT target cops or their families to intimidate are long gone…frankly in a BIM environment I don’t know that it makes a lot of difference really but still…I would mask up!

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  • @Dee Word

    The time for talk is Rh over.

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  • Amen.

    Take down the criminal syndicate that trafficks these weapons into the island.

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  • @ Pedantic

    We are drifting in to US style para-military policing with SWAT teams etc and Chinese-style surveillance. This is barbarism. Barbados is a small place and the bad boys know the police, their parents, their children, their cousins, their friends and the police MUST know who these people are. What do you think they will do when the SWATS come out. If police raise the game, the bad guys will also raise their game. Look at Britain.
    We need a new, un-Barbadian approach. Not SWAT teams, but more uniformed officers walking the beats, every sq inch, and knowing the people who live on their patches – every man, woman and child – where they work, go to school, who they associate with, if they are the types to be members of gangs.
    At the same time, young people must be given more opportunities. Stop listening to retired officers from Britain and North America and talk to your own people. Barbadians know Barbadians best.
    Stop allowing containers to leave the port; stop sending customs officers to the homes of the importers ostensibly to search the containers when in reality they are paid to leave prematurely. Do the searching at the port and make corruption a national security offence.
    Stop magistrates abusing the sentencing system by jailing people for stealing salt breads and breadfruits. They will only stop the nonsense when some of the young lads (and they are mainly men) turn up at their homes late at night. Their is a price to pay.
    Do not let racist police officers come to your country from Britain, Canada and the US to tell you how best to deal with your brothers, cousins, neighbours and old school friends. Tell them thanks, but no thanks.
    At the same time we need to remove ALL guns from private hands; the wise guys will say those with illegal guns will not hand them in. How clever. We must make it clear that anyone found in illegal possession of a gun, or threatening to shoot anyone, will be sent to prison for a long time.
    Guns are being smuggled in the port by the New Barbadians welded in to the containers. They have form at this sort of thing and must think Barbadians are an easy touch. We must focus on them, even if time is running out. The whites are armed because they fear rebellion.

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  • Understand the Police got clamps on growing marijuana so it is expensive.

    Drone technology is here!!

    Reckoned that was the reason for al the talk about legalising it.

    Might catch the wrong folks!

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  • If you are distracted into focusing separately on guns, drugs and corruption, then the problem will never be solved. They appear to be strongly related.

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  • @All… Legalize drugs; eliminate the profit motive.

    Treat addiction like the disease it is. Problem (largely) solved. And, heck, some studies suggest that smoking a bit of weed is far less harmful than smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol.

    BTW, did you know that Marijuana was made illegal in the “Great” US of A (and then this policy pushed world-wide) to protect the wood-plant based fiber industry? Please see this for a bit of background: https://www.kqed.org/lowdown/24153/reefer-madness-the-twisted-history-of-americas-weed-laws

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  • @Hal

    entirely spot on. the thing is Bim is well known for community policing – Resident Beat Officer (RBO). however there is more to be done. community policing produces intelligence that drives detection.

    and you are absolutely correct about UK and other foreign police. i keep telling these lot this but you know how it is. even engaging Fulcrum Chambers Ltd is a big time mistake and we will pay (in terms of money and time and correctness of report) for that.

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  • @ Greene

    At the risk of taunting one of the anonymous angry predators who prowl about on BU, this is typical of the Bajan Condition. They not only like the taste of foreign, but of white foreign.
    Give you two recent examples from my trade: recently a senior diplomat from the British high commission reprimanded the media for the poor quality of their work. That was not new. I have been saying that, with great reluctance, for some time. But it was the craven way the once great Advocate fills its pages with rubbish about China that drove the print titles to a new low.
    The other example was the Barbados Defence Force recently ran a media workshop, and guess who they got to run it – a retired Brigadier from Sandhurst. I am sure the old Brigadier loved a few days in the sun, in the middle of the UK winter, but pray tell, what does he know about the media?
    I know a number of senior UK journalists of Bajan heritage and any of them would have done that BDF workshop for free. But better to get an old Brigadier.

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  • Hal
    Barbados not interested wholeheartedly on controlling the war on drugs
    Barbados signed on to international agreements with principles that is significant in helping small island nations fight the war on guns and drugs
    Recently i was appalled to hear that Charles Herbert was allowed to travel out of the country knowing the details and circumstances by which he was involved which in itself states that no information( from barbados ) on Charles Herbert was given to international countries namely USA that keeps a data base on such individuals caught with drug importation in the country
    All can scream and holler at the wayward youth but the root of all this crime and violence starts at the top where silence is like gold and very rewarding for a few

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  • @ David,

    in my humble opinion Bim needs effective policing. the cops in Bim appear to be afraid of engagement. it seems to me they think it is not worth it- meaning that the problem is because drug dealers are backed by people in high society, police and their families will be targeted for reprisals, the politicians and top brass dont care about police welfare and in any event they are not paid enough. usually police know exactly what is going on and that invitation of drug dealers to parliament must have confirmed all their worst fears.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxx

    STOP TALKING A LOT OF CUNT.

    MANY MANY BARBADOS POLICE ARE DRUG DEALING AND SELLING GUNS IN A RACKET WITH THE BAD BOYS AND DRUG LORDS.

    THE COLD IN ENGLAND GOT YOU BRAIN DEAD.

    TO FIND A HONEST POLICEMAN OR DETECTIVE IN BARBADOS IS LIKE LOOKING FOR A NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK.

    ALL SYSTEMS IN BARBADOS HAVE FAILED AND CORRUPTION/MONEY MAKING BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY IS THE NAME OF THE FUCKING GAME.

    DEAL WITH THE REALITY ON THE GROUND NOT WHAT YOU THINK IS HAPPENING.

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  • @Chris Halsall January 28, 2020 1:21 PM
    “Legalize drugs; eliminate the profit motive.
    Treat addiction like the disease it is. Problem (largely) solved. And, heck, some studies suggest that smoking a bit of weed is far less harmful than smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Bingo! The Portugal model at its most effective.

    The Portuguese brought sugarcane (and pigs) to Los Barbados. Why not a new crop of commonsense to the criminal justice system.

    As has been argued on BU for donkey years, drug addiction is a public health challenge and ought not to be ‘treated’ as a criminal matter.

    As long as drug addiction is seen by the lawmakers as deserving of punishment under the criminal “justice” system then the only outcome would the breeding of more crime.

    Imagine a ‘two-bit’ plant as common as Mary-Jane with little value added other than by way of water and risk has made ‘potty’ millionaires out of people who have been able to ‘buy off’ law enforcement officials while another legalized ‘grass’ called sugarcane is a mere poor drunkard for diabetic cousin which can’t even rub two lost Bajan five cents pieces together unless highly subsidized by exploited taxpayers.

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  • @ Mariposa

    A fish rots from the top. A little island state, the only industry is tourism, the people have Hollywood ambitions, so thy resort to unconventional ways of making money. Thy sell land, thy steal land; they overcharge; they sell drugs; they do dodgy jobs so that they will be called out again; it is gangster capitalism.
    Some of the gangsters wear track suits; some wear robes and collars; some wear uniforms; others wear shiny suits and bri-nylon shirts. But they all belong to the same gang.
    We are world class and punch above our weight.

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  • @ DISHONEST Bajans January 28, 2020 1:53 PM

    Sweeeettt! Tooo sweet!

    Right on the money.
    The real untouchables are the underbelly of the Bajan elite and financial supporters of the political class.

    Ask him why the local Bill is purposely incapable of touching the other ‘known’ players in the Donvillegate affair.

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  • @Greene

    One has to be pragmatic.

    The problem is now.

    Community policing will not address the immediate problem.

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  • meanwhile 1 case of coronavirus in Jamaica

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  • @Greene

    Let us pray. We have a six-bed isolation unit at Enmore. Barbados is God’s own country. Don’t panic. We are world class and punch above our weight.

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  • Ask him why the local Bill is purposely incapable of touching the other ‘known’ players in the Donvillegate affair.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    DON’T EVEN TOUCH THIS ONE THE TASKER TWINS AND OTHERS IN THEIR CLOSE NETWORK HAVE BEEN IN A DRUG DEALING AND MONEY LAUNDERING RACKET FOR YEARS AND HAVE CLOSE TIES TO THOSE AT THE TOP INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

    JUST LIKE LEROY PARRIS AND CHARLES HERBERT.

    UNTOUCHABLE BECAUSE OF CRIMINAL WHITE COLLAR CONNECTIONS.

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  • @Greene

    It is a suspected case.

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  • We are dancing around the real issues and focusing on the fallout effects.

    Trinidad had one of the most undisciplined group of PSV operators in the Caribbean until the nod was given by the minister to the commissioner to deal with it as he saw fit.

    Go down there now and see order. They know if they step out of line which police they will deal with and worst yet, what the magistrate they go before will do. In other words the gloves were taken off in TT.

    What did we do here with the same problem? We gave them uniforms and that was the cure all.

    Face it we are pathetic at law and it’s enforcement and the criminal element know that. What the hell did wunna really expect would be the outcome as a result?

    JOKERS!

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  • @ John A

    Simple. The ZR van business model encourages bad behaviour. It is(or was) that the van crews had to make Bds$3000 for a the owners per day and the rest of the money was theirs. Thus the bad behaviour.
    If they were unionised and put on weekly/monthly salaries, then there will be better behaviour. The alternative is putting the owners in the dock with the drivers and on the same charges.
    But it is a bad business model generally. Sometime ago I suggested to the ZR Owners Association that they should self-insure and, of course they did not take up the suggestion – or even asked me what I meant. Yet thy were complaining about the high cost of insurance. It is an obvious thing to do.
    At the meeting, with some government department, when I made the suggestion some returnee guy on the government’s side almost collapsed in shock.
    Government inaction leads to gangster capitalism. Barbados is a failed state. It will end in tars.

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  • If you look at our neighbours from Central America, the majority of the South America continent and the entire Caribbean, you will see a region that is more violent and dangerous than any other region in the world. With the exception of countries that are at war.

    The surge in criminality, violence and murder within Barbados is merely a reflection of events in the region.

    Why would any sensible person believe that this problem can be solved.

    We still have a long way to go to emulate our neighbours; but rest assure we will rival them within the coming years.

    Dishonest John has given an accurate summary of the roots of our problems.

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  • @TLSN: “Why would any sensible person believe that this problem can be solved.

    Because it must be.

    And please forgive me for what might be misinterpreted, but said with respect… There needs to be more discipline in Barbados if it is going to succeed. Not just be safe, but succeed.

    One of the big reasons the Asian countries do so well is discipline is deeply entrenched in the world-view (as is the “long game”). Take as just one example, their various martial arts. It’s as much mental is it is physical.

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  • Donks, Gripe and Josh

    The Thorne Commission is a waste of money and sums up the Mottley Administration disastrously flawed policies and failure on crime and violence.

    Less than a handful attend hearings Bobby Clarke, poonka like Commissiong and one or two others none with a meaningful constituency.

    That Commission’s remit should’ve been to tackle tough issues of violence in all its forms gun or domestic and wider crime.

    Its composition ought to be law enforcement , the church, parent-teachers , community leaders/activists, criminologists, judiciary, govt representations from Finance, Education, Legal affairs etc.

    The meetings should be convened in at risk and wider communities to grasp first hand from people who live in the neighborhoods where the shooters and bad boys reside, block and roam.

    These communities bear the brunt of daily shootings, maiming’s and killings whether perp or victim.

    Hear from folk on the ground encourage frank discussion in the search of causes, effects and solutions.

    That is an efficient results based use of funds to provide deep insight for law enforcement including the judiciary of the nature of the beast wrecking havoc on the nation.

    The Mottley Administration has gone silent on the daily shootings but wishing the problem away never works.

    Not bout here and meaningless threats from PM and AG are not worth what paddy shot at.

    No one over the age of thirty five understands what distorted the society in the past twenty months from a relatively low crime Caribbean outpost to a place of daily gun play with brazen shootings and murders. It has never happened in the history of our country.

    Our leaders have to step up to the plate now tomorrow is already too late.

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  • @Chris,

    depends on which Asian country you are referencing. in any case, it is my view that all countries, at some point, were violent. seems to be human nature.

    we, in Bim, cannot let this go on. in fact something should have been done long time ago but as usual we love to yap and yap and yap and get stuck in analysis paralysis. never actually doing anything and hoping it will go away on its own.

    but, of course, a bad thing left unchecked will get worse- murphy’s second law

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  • @ Hal

    Well if we look at the USA, China and Russia what do they have in common? They combined have a larger prison population that the rest of the developed world combined. In the case of the USA they have more gun related crimes than any where in the developed world.

    Now we look at Switzerland and The Netherlands and they are actually closing prisons from a lack of people to put in them.

    So we can conclude locking people up in jail has resulted in massive criminal populations, but has done little to cut the murder rate and gun related crimes there.

    What therefore are countries like Switzerland and the Netherlands doing that others are not?

    Start asking those questions find the answers and then work backwards to the source of our problems.

    Hal let me tell you if you think our PSVS undisciplined you should of been in Trinidad to see the lunacy that went on before, as the fellows down there say now when you asked them what changed ” New sheriff in town bass.”

    Trust me if it can be done there, it can be done here, all we need is to actually do something about it besides talk.

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  • One thing I know is that we cannot go on doing what we are doing now. Reducing the profit by legalizing it does seem to be the way to go. Treating drug addiction as a health issue makes sense because that is exactly what it is.

    But I don’t think it will take discipline alone to tackle the problem though Barbadians definitely do need more discipline these days. The powers that be know everything we know. Why have they not acted? Because they need to WANT to take the profit motive out.

    When will it happen? Probably not until someone they care about gets caught in the crossfire these foolish little black boys spray around. Sonia Browne MP only recently said it is coming too close to her home. And now it is coming close to her gas station, her supermarket, her children’s school, her mall. Not one of their family members is safe once they venture outside of the safe havens. They will have to build their own communities and only venture out with armed body guards.

    Not sure they would be able to live like that. We Bajans like to walk bout free.

    Of course, we also need to find something for the silly little black boys to do and convince them that it is worth doing. Or else they will find some other violent criminal activities to get into like robbing the same gas stations. And sticking us up. Breaking and entering. Kidnapping.

    Hal Austin,

    The preference for foreign white man solutions is not just a Bajan condition. And it is not just for white men solutions but also white men’s women. I have heard many a man thinking he had “arrived” because he was with a white woman. Where do you think that came from?

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  • John AJanuary 28, 2020 6:27 PM

    @ Hal

    Well if we look at the USA, China and Russia what do they have in common? They combined have a larger prison population that the rest of the developed world combined. In the case of the USA they have more gun related crimes than any where in the developed world.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Probably because when you come out of prison there is nowhere to go.

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  • Imagine if one of the stray bullets had hit the gas pump in the wrong place and caused an explosion?
    Today’s babble maybe very different.

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  • The Criminals in Barbados are now using fully automatic firearms including fully automatic glock pistols I was told by close sources on the Barbados police force.

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  • NorthernObserverJanuary 28, 2020 7:24 PM

    Imagine if one of the stray bullets had hit the gas pump in the wrong place and caused an explosion?
    Today’s babble maybe very different.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I did imagine it. Would the sight of one of their family members engulfed in flames move them to act?

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  • @ Lionel

    Be glad you not in the USA as they now have a rifle called the AR 500 which will be the big brother to the AR 15. As you may know the AR 15 has been used in many of the mass shootings in the USA so far.

    So now the right to own arms will allow people who claim to be big game hunters to own one of the AR500. This gun will also be used by the drug enforcement snipers, as it has the power to stop a vehicle once fired into the engine. In other words it can penetrate a steel engine block and shatter a position all with one shot from a distance!

    Imagine what will happen when this rifle falls into the wrong hands in the good old USA? Plus as it’s a small magazine single shot rifle, it does not fall under the full automatic restrictions.

    Talk about a mad world be glad we live here, for now at least.

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  • @John A January 28, 2020 7:47 PM “Be glad you not in the USA as they now have a rifle called the AR 500 which will be the big brother to the AR 15. As you may know the AR 15 has been used in many of the mass shootings in the USA so far. So now the right to own arms will allow people who claim to be big game hunters…imagine what will happen when this rifle falls into the wrong hands”

    So what big game will they be planning to hunt in the USA? There are no wild elephants nor rhinoceroses in the USA, right?

    There are no right hands for a weapon like this. Invariably some idiot will use it to shoot 6 year old humans (who by the way are NOT big game)

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  • @ Silly Woman

    It’s all about their God given right to bear arms as is their constitutional right! Of course back then arms were muskets not AR 500s.

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  • @John January 28, 2020 7:13 AM “What processes are followed by the car rental agencies? If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”

    Maybe some companies are slack?

    A few years ago I ordered a rental car to be delivered to my home. I had gone into the company a day or so before with ID and paid for the rental. The company had successfully debited my credit card. I had done business with the company once before.

    Towards the end of the workday I realized I would have to work late and asked the company to deliver the car to my work place instead of to my home. My home and workplace are approximately equidistant from the company. The company told me that they could not do that that I had to accept delivery at my home as ordered. I told them that since I had no car and since i had to work late there was no way I could get home on time to accept delivery. I told them that I had government issued picture ID on me. They refused to budge. They sent the driver with the car over to my home. Of course as I had told them there was nobody at home to accept delivery. They called me to say that nobody was answering the door.

    Worse than Kafkaesque.

    i cancelled the order.

    I have never attempted to do business with them again.

    But it seems any ole bad boy can “fool” the rental companies?

    While they give decent little old ladies a hard time?

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  • @Hal Austin January 28, 2020 2:02 PM “the people have Hollywood ambitions, so thy resort to unconventional ways of making money. Thy sell land, thy steal land; they overcharge; they sell drugs; they do dodgy jobs so that they will be called out again; it is gangster capitalism.”

    1627 is when the practice of gangster capitaism started i Barbados, brought from the Mother Country, the United Kingdom.

    Nothing much has changed since then.

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  • We have shamefully neglected OUR sons and now that the gang leaders have seduced them we the parents are afraid of our own sons and we want the state to kill them for us before they kill us.

    How else did we think that our shameful neglect would end?

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  • In the good old days the most respectable church going tradesman in the village would be godfather to our children.

    Now everybody including the churches have sold out. Now any gang leader can have his baby mother show up at the church and members of the political class are only too happy to stand godmother or godfather to the little bastards.

    i remember the good old days when decent parents would not ask politicians to be godparents because the parents knew that the politicians were mostly useless and rarely attended church.

    Now the churches smile on everything. Godparents who never go to church. Gangsters with half a dozen baby mothers.

    And we wonder how the youth get so.

    They get so because we made them so.

    I was talking to a 70 something mother recently. She has two drug dealing, drug using sons. They are making her life a living hell, fighting, breaking her furniture, cursing, not working, sleeping until past midday, coming in at al hours, using drugs in her home. She wants them out of her home. But she is afraid that if she puts them out they will come back and shoot her dead. Shoot dead the same woman who changed their diapers, cooked their food, got them ready for school. She said that neither the police or the courts are of any help to her. The children’s father of course disappeared from their lives when they were infants.

    The violence is driven by the drugs, and the gangsters find it easy to seduce foolish young boys who have never been loved by their fathers, the politicians do anything for a vote, and those who import guns know that they can pay officials to turn a blind eye.

    So yes.

    It is the economic inequality, not enough work, not enough well paid work, not enough education, not enough relevant education.

    It is the drugs.

    it is the guns.

    It is the neglect by fathers

    it is the immorality of the church and the parents.

    It is the politicians who will do anything for a vote.

    It is officials who don’t search where they should.

    It is the officials who do not investigate where they should.

    it is officials who “lose” files.

    So we have to fix all of these things at the same time.

    Asking the police to shoot OUR SONS, or asking the courts to lock them up forever. for us won’t fix the many, many things which are wrong.

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  • Just today someone complained about a cabinet level official who lets his dogs lose at nights. The dog eats the villagers livestock. The cabinet level official denies any responsibility.

    The idiot does not realize that when the dogs are out eating the neighbor’s sheep, they are not at home protecting the home. Perhaps a good time for a bad boy to pay a visit.

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  • Donks, Gripe and Josh

    Mottley’s initiative to expand the puny youth service to slightly bigger Advanced Youth Corps is a step in the right direction yet still it has not gone nearly far enough.

    The Reverend Senator Rogers like many social engineers opine a mandatory national youth service would starve hardened criminals, drug lords and block gang leaders of recruits, school leavers and drop outs to traffic illegal substances , obtain firearms to shoot ,injure, rob and kill with impunity and promote anti social behavior.

    Social scientists long ago identified and stats confirm ages between 16 and 26 is when youth without discipline, direction or constructive engagement turn violent against each other and the community.

    Crime and violence become a badge of honor.

    Youth crave direction and discipline also activity in which to keep them engaged a compulsory national youth service not a cohort of few hundred can provide that.

    The BDF success story is the ideal place to locate the youth service clear the blocks of idle mindless individuals majority fueled by drugs shooting and killing each other and innocents and spreading fear in the wider society.

    The NYS can turn them into positive citizens to help themselves, their families and their country. .

    A national youth service with conditions , exceptions and other details such as length of service and youth engagement subject matter can be worked out by competent technocrats.

    Money saved from hospital care for gunshot victims alone could assist in funding the NYS.

    The vast network of financial inputs to deal with daily shootings ,homicides , injuries and crime in general would be reduced dramatically and savings put into NYS.

    If as government says there is renewed confidence in the economy by international investors and lenders secure funds from those sources . It is worth it to save Barbados.

    Right now the population is under siege with record numbers of murders and terrified as seen in the armed robbery of Senator Franklyn at a traditional community domino game.

    The 35% unemployed youth are an army of occupation that demands urgent laser focus attention neglecting this demographic ensures Barbados continues its free fall to societal destruction.

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  • @David King, I support your call for we cannot allow these rif raffs to cause us to cower.

    I have said perhaps if ever public loses confidence in the police to arrest the wayward brain dead herb thugs the unwelcome vigilante justice may send a strong message to the thugs and their enabling family and friends, citizens are fighting back.

    GOB needs to look at the social root causes of the wayward behavior and not just give police bigger guns for new thugs are being recruited daily.

    What I do agree with is that some RH thugs families need their heads blown off by the police.

    Oh, Lil Rick and other jack ass DJs need to be censored. Expect more violence as we relax marijuana usage if in doubt ask California about their new mad people problem.

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  • Silly Woman
    January 28, 2020 8:43 PM

    @John January 28, 2020 7:13 AM “What processes are followed by the car rental agencies? If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”
    Maybe some companies are slack?
    A few years ago I ordered a rental car to be delivered to my home.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    My experience is somewhat similar.

    There are strict controls.

    So assuming the car is a rental, there should be a clear path back to the renter.

    Of course it could have been stolen.

    A rented car once drove into the back of my car at a junction .. no big deal!!

    I realized the story given me by the driver was suspicious and decided to think it out some more on the scene before settling.

    She told me she was a tourist and she was taking the children to school and offered me a wad of US money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The passenger who remained in the car went crazy when I turned away to process the obvious conflict in the story.

    Both the driver and the passenger who I assumed was the renter were expats.

    When I got home I checked the rental contract I had from before and realized for the car I had rented in the past to be insured the driver had to be authorized by the renter and there is a small fee.

    That insignificant fee and act ties the renter to the authorized driver and identifies everyone to the Rental company.

    I relaised the driver had probably not been authorized by the renter and that was why I found the behavior suspicious.

    The passenger lost his temper when he interpreted my time thinking may have exposed his position.

    No damage but I learnt a thing or two.

    This was my surmise from snippets of info the lady offered to calm the situation.

    The guy was going through a divorce and obviously the lady was his outside lady.

    The children in the vehicle were his.

    They were taking them to school.

    Custody would have been compromised if he was ever found to have acted irresponsibly towards his children as no doubt his divorce was before a court in a different jurisdiction.

    Careful how you rent a car and sign a contract.

    Think before letting someone else drive it.

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  • You are contractually bound to report any accident to the Rental Company.

    Obviously the expat did not and if the car in the shooting is a rental, the renter won’t be fussy about revealing details of the “accident”!!

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  • @ Blogmaster:

    Perhaps, the Duterte approach to drug dealers has something to recommend it, given the dire circumstances and notwithstanding criticisms by Amnesty International (AI) and Human Rights Watch.

    At least, per certain reports, the Manila streets are safer today.

    (By contrast and as usual, in Bim, we tend to confuse speech with action in any and all circumstances-result: way too much jaw boning, and way too little action – no action really – to solve nagging, persistent problems).

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  • @ Caleb

    Have you ever heard of something called democracy? Why is it that many Bajans always go to the most savage examples to prove a point. We can change our society through more civilised means – like jobs, education and opportunities.
    Here is an example: 40 – 50 years ago smoking was common place, especially among men. Today there are more women smokers than men and overall smoking is a minority activity. How did we get here? Simple: by reminding people that smoking kills.
    Mussolini got the trains to run on time, but at what price. We must think, us our brains, and avoid easy answers. A murderer is a murder whether he is a gangster or in uniform. Just look at how US (and Brazilian and others) police kill young, black men.
    First, we want the president to acknowledge there is a problem, then set about trying to solve it. That would be world class and punching above our weight.

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  • “If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”

    To rent a car, the customer must produce a valid driver’s license. So, unless the customer produces a fake driver’s license, I.D card or valid passport, I’m at a loss how a vehicle could be “rented under a false name.”

    No other individuals are allowed to drive the vehicle, unless they provide information similar to that of the “initial renter” and sign the contract as well. Unfortunately, this does not prevent the renter from allowing other people to drive the vehicle.

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  • Poor Little England. A country that remains proud of her British heritage and all that entails. A country that was built on the backs of slaves. A country which refuses to discuss her past history and the major impact that it still has on a modern day Barbados. A country who has, gleefully, accepted that dreadful colonial baton without reflecting on that cruel and brutal period. A country which which promotes social and racial apartheid against her own majority population.

    A country that allows its business community to facilitate and profit from the flow of drugs, guns and undocumented labour. A country that allows its political class and its elite to prosper at all cost; never mind that the people are suffering and that the infrastructure of the country is at the point of its sell-by-date.

    A contributor referenced Asia and the discipline of its populations. The Barbadians of my parent’s generation and the majority of Barbadians that I know, certainly those from the British diaspora, are a disciplined bunch.

    Sanity could be restored to Barbados however that would require a cleansing of the political system and the existing elite. This is not a simple task and will never be accepted domestically or internationally by outside international players. We will just have to get use to murder and mayhem on the streets. Those who are financially independent will have the means to hire their own private security. Those from the diaspora will abandon the island. Whilst the poor will exist with the ever present back ground noise of gunfire.

    Reference Barbados neighbours within the region and and where they are at: more guns;more violence. No solution.

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  • De ole man agrees with Donna who said

    “…When will it happen?

    Probably not until someone they care about gets caught in the crossfire these foolish little black boys spray around…”

    The fact Donna, is that the 49 murders last year AND THE 75 for this year, ARE NOBODIES!

    It really is insignificant how many of these scum get killed because AT THE END OF THE DAY, the people like Mugabe and Dale Marshall dont give a badword Donna!

    Someone going rush here and say that my statement is a “political one, and needs to be retracted but, interestingly enough, no such demand will be made for Sonia Browne MP who only recently said “it is coming too close to her home.”

    You continued Donna and said “…And now it is coming close to her gas station, her supermarket, her children’s school, her mall. Not one of their family members is safe once they venture outside of the(ir) safe havens.

    They will have to build their own communities and only venture out with armed body guards…”

    WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

    Intelligence Gathering in War!

    You MUST KNOW your enemy! Who he is, where he is, what he is packing AND WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF!

    That is not a problem for Mugabe Mottley since, now she is back in power, SHE HAS BEEN USING THAT DEVICE ON SENATOR CASWELL FRANKLYN AND ALL PDP members anyways.

    So the “authorities” ALREADY KNOW, who the bad brown are.

    STEP 2.

    KILLING THE ENEMY!

    Frankly speaking Donna, this problem MUST BE ERADICATED!

    There is no middle ground with these illiterate thugs.

    So one creates an elite BDF Unit that is used explicitly for this purpose

    AND THESE GUYS ARE “BACLAVED” UP and are chosen from the ranks if the bajans who KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT (that is real hard I know)

    STEP 3 IMPLEMENTATION

    Target 30 of these bad boys, AS WAS DONE WITH SENATOR CASWELL FRANKLYN AT HIS FLINT HALL DOMINO GAME, and kill all 30!

    Execute the scum one a night for 30 consecutive nights AND HAVE THE POLICE COME TO THE SITES JUST TO PICK UP THE BODIES!

    The message MUST BE A CLEAR ONE so that the thugs understand THAT THEY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

    Remember that BARBADOS is at war!

    And, if the Authorities DO NOT WIN THAT WAR, all wunna a.***** going be scampering like the bystanders in that video at the Charles Rowe Bridge gas station when those scum lick shot!

    If thugs can be enlisted to frighten law BIDING senators WHY NOT GO THE EXTRA MILE & ERADICATE THESE SCUM?

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  • @ the Honourable Blogmaster your help please

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  • Artaxerxes
    January 29, 2020 4:38 AM

    “If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”
    To rent a car, the customer must produce a valid driver’s license. So, unless the customer produces a fake driver’s license, I.D card or valid passport, I’m at a loss how a vehicle could be “rented under a false name.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I reckon there were perhaps 6 people involved in that shooting.

    The 3 in the car at the gas station, the shooter, and perhaps 2 in the getaway car probably parked at Chefette.

    Whatever economic activity they were involved in paid their daily wages and whatever those wages were they were obviously considerable.

    If up to 6 people are employed the activity can easily pay for getting fake passports or ID’s as required.

    After all, it isn’t going to be making NIS and PAYE contributions on behalf of its employees.

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  • After all, it isn’t going to be making NIS and PAYE contributions on behalf of its employees.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It also goes without saying that the activity pays no taxes on the profits it makes!!

    No taxes on profits + no NIS + no PAYE = plenty of cash to be laundered.

    Politicians, judges and the like can be bribed, policemen can be bent, banks used to launder the cash … the opportunities are only limited by the extent of the cash generated and the imagination of the CEO’s.

    A fake economy which undermines everything!!

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Wuh Loss !!

    New Year ! And the same old superficial analyses and knee jerk solutions. What really happened at Charles Rowe Bridge? Was it a shoot out over territory? If so we need an enlightened and different approach to eliminating the turf wars.
    Remove the fundamental disease. We are merely dealing with the symptoms.!!!

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Sorry.
    That should have been “belly aching over an event /incident.”

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John

    So it is about profits and income? For whom are these profits and income being made? Is this the purpose of life and living?

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  • @ John January 29, 2020 8:34 AM
    “Whatever economic activity they were involved in paid their daily wages and whatever those wages were they were obviously considerable.
    If up to 6 people are employed the activity can easily pay for getting fake passports or ID’s as required.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That factor is the key to understanding the main reason behind the rising level of every ‘colour-of –collar’ crime in Bim.

    That key is the love of money to live above one’s ‘honest’ means and the pathological infection of greed to maintain an excessively opulent lifestyle surrounded with fair-weather friends as in the ‘former’ Don of Porn who can now be dubbed and daubed as the modern-day Icarus of Corrupt Barbados.

    If only we can get our fellow fighter in crime King Artaxerxes to see the ‘white-collar’ mirage of proper policing and law enforcement then there could be some hope that an oasis of justice might just be on the horizon for Barbados before it falls below the moral nadir of no return.

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  • I reckon there were perhaps 6 people involved in that shooting.

    The 3 in the car at the gas station, the shooter, and perhaps 2 in the getaway car probably parked at Chefette.

    Whatever economic activity they were involved in paid their daily wages and whatever those wages were they were obviously considerable.

    If up to 6 people are employed the activity can easily pay for getting fake passports or ID’s as required.

    After all, it isn’t going to be making NIS and PAYE contributions on behalf of its employees.

    For a man who professes to be educated, sometimes you contribute a lot a shiite as a result of
    over analyzing and intellectualizing simple issues.

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  • “If only we can get our fellow fighter in crime King Artaxerxes to see If only we can get our fellow fighter in crime King Artaxerxes to see the ‘white-collar’ mirage of proper policing and law enforcement then there could be some hope that an oasis of justice might just be on the horizon for Barbados before it falls below the moral nadir of no return.

    @ Miller

    John wrote something about renting a car using a fake name. Having been involved in the car rental business for a few years and acquainted with others who are, I’ve never been confronted with or heard of anyone attempting to rent a car using fake I.D.

    What has me puzzled is how you’re making a correlation between using a fake name and “proper policing and law enforcement.”

    It becomes exhausting responding to your comments, because you have this uncanny ability not to focus on the main topic, while introducing irrelevant issues that only serve to confuse the entire “discussion.”

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  • RE It becomes exhausting responding to your comments, because you have this uncanny ability not to focus on the main topic, while introducing irrelevant issues that only serve to confuse the entire “discussion.”

    THIS A MOST ACCURATE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE RUBBISH THAT MILLER IS PERMITTED TO DISPLAY ON BU

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Pieces, you sound real Dirty Harry gungho with “Execute the scum one a night for 30 consecutive nights AND HAVE THE POLICE COME TO THE SITES JUST TO PICK UP THE BODIES!”….. If you were AG then I presume this policy would be in place… but you are not the AG so let’s frame it another way.

    If you were an antagonist of a powerful pol and this awesome eradication program was in place what safeguards would you want also in place to ensure that you a decent, lawbiding member of society with a big mouth and sharp skills did not become a balaclava officer’s collateral of the clean up in scum alley!

    The gun crime situation is out of hand…we all get that… but if we can look at other communities to see how their open warfare programs ripped apart their nations and generally had limited long term successes (and the Philippines with a dictatorial, murderous henchman as its leader can NOT be a valid example) and so blissfully recommend a similar war-fare program in little Bdos then I shudder in realization that we are just as ridiculous as the local leaders we condemn daily.

    We talk about the elites and how they badly game the systems of justice, governance, banking and social net (like NIS) to our disadvantage…yet after those elites and complicit administrations allowed guns to flood this island and willingly seed these steps into his “anarchy” we are rising up manfully to demand they complete their program of control. What a thing!

    @Hal, I don’t often agree with you guy but on this I see your experience shining through brightly. I see absolutely no good outcomes to these senseless calls for basically open warfare…

    If folks are too naive to see the glee of crooked cops and politicians with any acceptance of police ex-judicial killings by Bajans and to uninformed to understand how all this starts us on a course from which we would have grave long term issues then i must agree with the Blogmaster: all our free education was a freaking waste of time!

    I gone, gone.

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  • @Piece the Legend January 29, 2020 6:05 AM “The fact Donna, is that the 49 murders last year AND THE 75 for this year, ARE NOBODIES! It really is insignificant how many of these scum get killed because…”

    These young men are NOT scum, they are NOT nobodies. They are OUR SONS, MY SON, YOUR SON, all ‘o we sons.

    We have shamefully neglected them.

    Not we are demanding that other of OUR SONS, those sons who are policemen go out and MURDER our other sons.

    Why do we think that this is going to work?

    Do you think that once our police sons have tasted blood, they won’t want more? Kill suspected drug lords, then suspected rapists and thieves, then little old ladies who use their cell phones while driving.

    Blood, blood, and more blood.

    Keep killing until there is not a man or woman or child left standing.

    Or take the much easier path. No guns required. No bloodshed needed. Keep close to your sons, keep you sons close to you. If they are hungry let them eat your food, take them to the beach, to cricket to church, to fetes, be the main man in your son’s life, and he won’t need the dealer man in his life.

    Train up a child in the way HE should go, and when he is old HE will not depart from it.

    But too many of us, the political class, the economic class, the legal class, the “elite” too feel that child raising is low class work and that the only people who should be doing it are lower class black women.

    I have long noticed that boys who are nurtured by their fathers are not getting into conflict with the law or with their friends, or their neighbours, or their employers, or their employees.

    Boys/young men of all social classes who are loved and nurtured by their fathers are still doing well.

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  • I have heard from too many people who have spent lifetimes working with young people and you would be amazed at how many feel men feel that once they had ‘paid for that piece of pvssy” than their responsibility is done.

    No fellas.

    It int done.

    It has just begun.

    If you don’t love that son…he int going nowhere..he will be back in 15 or 20 years as a killer.

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  • @ Silly Woman January 29, 2020 10:23 AM
    “I have long noticed that boys who are nurtured by their fathers are not getting into conflict with the law or with their friends, or their neighbours, or their employers, or their employees.
    Boys/young men of all social classes who are loved and nurtured by their fathers are still doing well.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Does that apply to those “boys/young men” who commit crime of the white collar variety?

    What about the ‘men’ who hide behind the dog collar or are ardent pew warmers including those who attend religiously their temples and mosques?

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  • @ GP January 29, 2020 10:11 AM

    You mean like asking you to explain how Noah was able to capture 2 polar bears and two kiwi birds to save their sorry asses from Yahweh’s wrath?

    All the miller is asking you lot is to try to see the correlation between the rampant existence of white collar crimes and the ineffectiveness of the local law enforcement efforts.

    Not only can our BU John see it but also the calypsonian Adonijah with his “Two Barbadoes”; and even Uncle Sam who had to step in to embarrass you silly incestuous lot with small island mentalities.

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  • @ de Pedantic

    Just look at Mexico to s how well-armed gangs respond to heavily armed police/military. Thy do not curl up and die, thy fight back. Look at Colombia. Is this what we come want for little Barbados, or do we want to show the rest of the world how it is done?
    (I have told a story her of a senior Bajan police officer on work experience in North West London with Scotland Yard; the local police carried our a drugs raid on Stonebridge Park and were dutifully taking names etc.
    He intervened, telling the officers to be rougher with the young black boys until the commanding officer told him to shut up. When he told me the story I told him that is how thy behave in Barbados. What I now call the Bajan Condition.
    In simple words, violence begets violence. A violent police force/defence force will lead to violent gangs. There are better ways.

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  • Alcatraz ?

    A decision could soon be made on the first phase of the building of islands off the shores of Barbados, Minister of Maritime Affairs and the Blue Economy Kirk Humphrey has revealed.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/01/29/offshore-islands-near-humphrey/

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  • @Miller January 29, 2020 10:48 AM “Does that apply to those “boys/young men” who commit crime of the white collar variety? What about the ‘men’ who hide behind the dog collar or are ardent pew warmers including those who attend religiously their temples and mosques?”

    I speak of young men with good decent fathers.

    If the father is bad behaved/criminal very likely the son will be bad behaved/criminal as well. The fruit cannot fall far from the tree, and it does not matter if the tree is Jew, Christian, Muslim, Agnostic, or Atheist or whatever.

    As we say in Barbados “wuh in de old goat got to be in the kiddie”.

    You know that as well as I do.

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  • These fools in parliament with their limited intellects refuse to stop courting disaster and wilfully attracting the most dangerous lowlifes to the island, but let them carry on smartly, they may be the only ones trapped in the next dangerous set up they are creating for their own people.

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