Peter and Verla in Focus

The Donville Inniss trial in the USA suffocated the local newsfeed in recent days and prevented the blogmaster – absent the noise – from sharing thoughts about other matters. Now that we have touchdown in the Inniss matter with the predictable verdict being returned, it is time.

Two images were posted in the Nation newspaper on the 12th and 18th of January 2020 which captured the attention of this blogmaster.

One image emblazoned on the Sunday’s front page of the 12 January 2020 showed the beaming countenance of Peter Wickham and Giancarlo with the caption – “Regional political consultant was formally married to his partner of the past ten years, Giancarlo Cardinale yesterday at the Hotel de Ville in Strasbourg, France …

Some will accuse the blogmaster of being homophobic after posting this blog. You are free to do so. Individuals are free to live lifes as they chose, once done within the boundary of the law. We live in a world where same sex unions are being given the ‘weight’ traditional marriages.  The beef this blogmaster has with the Nation Media House is the decision to insert the picture on the front page AND referring to the union as a marriage.

Barbadians are a people wedded to the traditional view that a marriage is ” established between two people of the opposite sex.” The Nation newspaper as the leading media outlet in the country has a duty to responsibly share information that accurately influence given the power of media to influence (manipulate) public opinion. After all we have the vulnerable in society to shepherd. Posting Wickhams so called marriage on the front page  brings into serious question the quality of decision-making at the Editor’s desk at Nation Publishing.

Peter Wickham Marriage

The second picture does not require an exercise in the prolix and can be explained in a few words – one must thrive to make the best decisions at all times Verla et al.

Verla De Peiza

Discuss for 10 marks.

244 comments

  • Verda Pizza must resign immediately. Like all other DLP grandees, she has sided with Donville, even though there has been strong evidence for his upcoming conviction for some time. The DLP is obviously not able to distinguish between justice and injustice. It would not surprise me if they soon demand the reintroduction of slavery and corporal punishment such as flogging of locals.

    The two parliamentary terms from 2008 to 2018 were not only an economic catastrophe but also a socialist dictatorship of the semi-wild.

    It would be even better if all official representatives, judges, prosecutors and police officers who were appointed between 2008 and 2018 voluntarily left the civil service. The continued employment of these people is as if democratic Japan had simply taken over the old officers from the dictatorship before 1945. Or think of Cambodia (Khmer Rouge) and many other dictatorships. This cannot be allowed.

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  • Why does the article makes reference to the couple marriage as ” so called” was there a marriage or not
    Are they not countries that give legal marriage bindings to homosexual marriages
    What i sense is the writer almost feeling a sense of shame or disgust for the couple
    Hence the writer takes a position that the caption is misleading
    If the couple is happy what problem is it for society to judge them
    If the country in which they were legally married gives them a legal right to marry then (why) should the Nation article reflect differently
    —”'””‘””””‘”””‘”””””””””

    Verla Depezia spoke truth what more could she have said
    No sense in throwing fuel to a blazing fire
    Within good commonsense and logical thinking it would have made no sense for Verla to entertain words which could have been interpreted in the public domain as divisive
    Her words cut across the entire spectrum of the political divide D..B..or independent and towards others seeking high places in govt

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  • David

    “Posting Wickhams so called marriage on the front page brings into serious question the quality of decision-making at the Editor’s desk at Nation Publishing.”

    What do you mean by so called marriage? It is a marriage…period!. As far as I know polygamy is against the law in Barbados, but it does not stop media houses from reporting an individual (Osama Bin Laden for example) as having WIVES. Only recently a known prostitute was on the ballot for our elections. Is prostitution legal? Your comments fit the definition of homophobic and are also plainly illogical.

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  • Amid the frenzy over local political corruption, which has led many on this blog to celebrate the crucifixion of Donville Innis, let us be mindful of the fact that this trial in the United States was obviously the result of a backroom deal between (white) prosecutors in the United States and (white) business executives based in Barbados — a deal which concealed the wrongdoing of the (white) puppetmasters involved in the much-discussed payoffs.

    I am not excusing the disgusting behaviour of Donville Innis or suggesting any mitigation of the punishment he faces. But I’m reminding everyone that we have been allowed to see only the tip of the iceberg, and we should keep demanding that justice be served up to all the parties involved in this scheme, not just the black scapegoat.

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  • First and last comment on Peter Wickham’s business.
    Don’t Know the guy, but I wish him success in all his endeavors.

    Have a great day, Barbados
    Wishing good fortune to every person on the 166 square mile rock, and to their relatives.
    HAGD

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  • The White executives you refer are located at the parent company which is NOT located in Barbados.

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  • @enuff

    Would have thought the blogmaster was very clear his definition of marriage.

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  • “let us be mindful of the fact that this trial in the United States was obviously the result of a backroom deal between (white) prosecutors in the United States and (white) business executives based in Barbados ”

    retard…it is doubtful prosecutors in US will align themselves with half-assed minority crooks in Barbados that are known to be corrupt, that are known to bribe the same lowlife government ministers that are known to be PARASITES in the lives of the black majority.

    These clowns are common class thieves it’s only the dumb in Barbados would put them on any kind of pedestal, the shite they do on the island, they would be in prison for decades in US.for committing..

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @David
    Nobody gives a tinkers damn what your definition of marriage is. Neither is it of the slightest relevance to Mr Wickham’s marriage because you did not marry him.

    I have no idea whether you are married yourself, but the same book of White people’s mythology also says that if your wife was not a virgin when she married you she should be stoned to death in public. Deuteronomy 22, 19 I think, I’m too lazy to go check the family Bible.

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  • With all the talk, when will this government go after ICBL 70% and CGI 30% recipients of the BIDC contract with one being the BROKER for this same deal that saw Donville on a hook and Tasker and Iness “at large”.

    When will Dale and the DPP act and give the COP some powers on this.

    instead of trying to WEASEL OUT of taking any action.

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  • It’s a marriage in Strasbourg so it’s a marriage but what this headline “formally married” is a “live wid” an informal marriage? Some Bajans have tied the knot with their same sex partners outside of Bim without fanfare but Peter being a media personality wants to let all Barbados to know of his new status.

    For once I agree with Enuff about the Blogmaster exhibiting some homophobia

    BTW two females were given extensive coverage in the Nation approximately a year ago about their lives and I understand they are very prominent on the social network about their status and I didn’t hear a word from the blogmaster. Didn’t they get engaged? Perhaps they are married by this time.

    Watch for the fireworks when the law is ultimately changed in Bim

    Moi? Live and let live

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  • @Peter and Sargeant

    The advantage of being blogmaster is that he can share his opinion and don’t give a damn what anybody thinks about it.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @David
    Which is exactly the same advantage enjoyed by the other 3 billion humans with internet access. Congratulations. 🍾🎊🎉

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  • David u have been exposed
    Now all u have to say is “Yes”

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  • I would be interested in finding out exactly how and when Barbados became a morally degenerate society, with a live-and-let-live attitude to questions of sexual pairing and marriage.

    Did this happen in the 1990s? The 2000s? Was it the result of watching North American movies and TV? I certainly never became aware of any attitude shifts in my own Roman Catholic family. It is shocking to me that people do not see this change as problematic.

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  • Now Barbados has two poster children
    Ironically they are both boys
    For better or for worse the eyes of the world are now gazing upon a barbados where corruption was a norm along with pictures of same sex marriages as an introduction to a new form of normality

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  • Read this and the comments – (remember it is cannabis that we talking about)

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/01/18/jamaican-drug-trafficker-may-sue/
    He should have been punished and was, but
    not ready for legalizing
    not ready for decriminalizing

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    David, REALLY.. you said such a thing:

    “The advantage of being blogmaster is that he can share his opinion and don’t give a damn what anybody thinks about it.”

    REALLY.

    No one questions that ability to editorialize freely but we question making ILLOGICAL editorials.

    If you don’t like same sex unions then so be it, bro … but to suggest that a NEWS WORTHY event (Wickham is a well known Bajan with deep roots) should not be so widely publicized because same sex marriage is illegal in Bim is ABSURD. (As all noted).

    You normally don’t do absurd.

    As the gents said : “Your comments fit the definition of […] of plainly illogical.”

    Where else do you allow your personal views to cloud your reason n logic bro???? That’s ‘the skinny’ here… NOT the view expressed!

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Arthur

    Barbados became a degenerate society in 1627 with English settlement and the introduction of Colonialism with its assumption of White superiority and mythology that advocated stoning women to death in public for not being virgins at marriage (amongst other atrocities advocated in their Bible).

    Barbados has yet to recover.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Archer^

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  • Well to me their marriage neither improves my day nor makes it worst. For years bout here they were so called ” respectable” people who were known as closet queens.

    In 2020 if 2 men or 2 women choose to get married I wish them well. After all isn’t one of the biggest jokes in the world not the Catholic church? They insist their pastors be celibate much to the disadvantage of the young boys in the church. How much has this said bastion of religion paid out over the years to quietly settle damage claims?

    My point is anyone that talks about religion being not in favour of same sex marriage needs to take their head out the sand.

    Why just last month I ran into 2 lesbians at a function. One was gorgeous and the other somewhat Butch. I had to ask the gorgeous one if she was sure she was a lesbian, or was she maybe unsure and being mislead. This however annoyed her butch partner.

    What can I say as a man i felt the need to make one last attempt at converting this nice young thing was required ! LOL

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  • ” Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people in Barbados do not enjoy the same rights as non-LGBT people. Homosexual acts are illegal (regardless of whether they were consensual and done in private) in Barbados, with a life sentence; however, the law is rarely enforced. The law is currently in effect, but under review.[1] In June 2016, Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite said that gays should be “left alone” and protected in the eyes of the law.[2]

    In August 2016, the Belize Supreme Court struck down Belize’s sodomy ban as unconstitutional. Because Belize and Barbados (and all member states of CARICOM) share an identical jurisprudence, Barbados’ sodomy ban is also unconstitutional. However, unlike Belize, Barbados’ Constitution contains a “savings clause”, which protects laws inherited by the former British Empire from constitutional review, even if these laws run counter to fundamental human rights.

    Because of Barbados’ small population, many LGBT Barbadians choose to remain in the closet in fear that coming out would expose them to the entire country.[3] Barbados held its first Pride Week in July 2018. Activities raising awareness and acceptance were hosted throughout the country.[4]

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  • “I had to ask the gorgeous one if she was sure she was a lesbian, or was she maybe unsure and being mislead.”

    That is funny but was wrong. It is also a problem that good looking lesbians have, people tend not to take them seriously”. If she expressed uncertainty, would you have volunteered to show her what she was missing.

    🙂 May your gorgeous lesbian encounters be many and more fruitful 🙂

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  • @ Theo

    Even Custer had to make one last stand! 😁

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  • Is Mia Mottley the Prime Minister a lesbian?

    ASKING FOR A FRIEND.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @John A

    Well Theo should then pay close heed to what happened to Custer.

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  • @ Peter.

    Lol very true. Thing is the more I talked to them after they had a few drinks, the more I realised I was possibly a lesbian too! After all we all seemed to like the same thing! I told the wife going home about my dilemma and she nearly died laughing at me!

    My point is let all people live and you will find if you chat with some as opposed to avoiding them, they are really entertaining.

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  • The problem with some men when they meet gay women is that they believe they are in the conversion business.
    Much to their chagrin they are soon disabused of that notion.

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  • David
    And the Nation chose to publish the story and use marriage based on their interpretation “and don’t give a damn what anybody thinks about it”, including you.

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  • @Ewart Archer January 18, 2020 10:42 AM

    I would be interested in finding out exactly how and when Barbados became a morally degenerate society, with a live-and-let-live attitude to questions of sexual pairing and marriage.

    When I was a young boy a male couple, Timmy and Frank, lived together in Waterhall Land (in the Tudor Bridge/Eagle Hall area) and I had to utter the usual good morning/evening when passing in front of the house and one or both were looking out the window, since I didn’t want them to complain, to my mother or grandparents, of my unmannerly behavior. That was in the 1950s.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    Actually, the Nation chose to publish the story using the definition of marriage in the jurisdiction where the couple were married because anything else would be utterly idiotic.

    Now David is upset that they don’t share his narrow minded homophobia that he swallowed whole from his colonial history.

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  • @David the blogmaster “The beef this blogmaster has with the Nation Media House is the decision to insert the picture on the front page AND referring to the union as a marriage. Barbadians are a people wedded to the traditional view that a marriage is ” established between two people of the opposite sex.” The Nation newspaper as the leading media outlet in the country has a duty to responsibly share information that accurately influence given the power of media to influence (manipulate) public opinion. After all we have the vulnerable in society to shepherd. Posting Wickhams so called marriage on the front page brings into serious question the quality of decision-making at the Editor’s desk at Nation Publishing.”

    But David marriage is whatever a particular society/legal system recognizes as marriage, so Mr. Wickham and Mr. Cardinale are legally married under the laws of France, so I don’t know how you can refer to the gentlemen’s marriage as a “so called marriage”

    On the other hand I have a cousin whose wife moved to the U.S. in 1995. Lolll!!! the idiot still ain’t realize that she int coming back. He hasn’t seen her since, and still walking ’bout telling people he is a married man. De facto he int no married man.

    Stupseee!!! how the hell can you be married to a person whom you haven’t seen in more than 25 years.

    Marriage is NOT a piece of paper giver by a priest, pastor or magistrate. Marriage is the day to day living and doing for each other, which is why Barbados recognizes traditional marriages, sometimes called common law marriages.

    I wish Mr. Wickham and Mr. Cardinale well. May they live happily after.

    Still a little vex wid Peter tho’ that he did not pop the question to me.

    Oh! well!!!.

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  • @Tron January 18, 2020 7:12 AM “Verda Pizza must resign immediately. Like all other DLP grandees, she has sided with Donville, even though there has been strong evidence for his upcoming conviction for some time.”

    Now all ‘o wunna know that Donville int my best buddy, but cuddear Tron man, ya can’t convict a man before he is convicted. All like 3 o’clock Thursday evening, the Don was as innocent as my new born grand babe.

    Now that he is convicted the Americans can throw him under the bus for all I care, especially since he like the American so bad. Look as soon as the elections done in Barbados as soon as he could he bound and gone up in the Americans place. Wha’ he do that for/? Barbados int good enough fah he?

    But “no” i din’t feel that Verla should resign as there is no evidence that she helped Donville with his laundry nor his book keeping nor neffen so.

    But I would love to hear from Freundel. Fruendel was Donville’s boss/supervisor for nearly ten years.

    What does Freundel think about Donville’s conviction?

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  • Won’t it be better to discuss the nonsense Peter Wickham told the Nation after the conviction of Donville than his marital status? It is his, to me, bogus ‘expertise’ as a political analyst that is most offensive to some of us. Why the Nation went to him for comment beats me. Why not go to Freundel? Or Adrian Brathwaite? Or the police commissioner?

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  • @Enuff January 18, 2020 8:55 AM “What do you mean by so called marriage? It is a marriage…period!. As far as I know polygamy is against the law in Barbados, but it does not stop media houses from reporting an individual (Osama Bin Laden for example) as having WIVES. Only recently a known prostitute was on the ballot for our elections. Is prostitution legal? Your comments fit the definition of homophobic and are also plainly illogical.”

    Enuff you asked why David used the term so called marriage. i am here to ask yu what is “a known prostitute?” how do you KNOW that the person is a prostitute? Have you paid the person for sexual services? Are you the FBI that you have checked their bank and email transactions and seen real [not fake] invoices for sexual services? If not aren’t you just engaging in malicious gossip?

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  • @ David January 18, 2020 9:53 AM “Would have thought the blogmaster was very clear his definition of marriage.”

    David you have ZERO authority to define marriage for the French state. ZERO.

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  • PLT

    is a forceful advocate for same-sex marriage, in conformity with the fashionably progressive thinking of this generation.

    Is he equally in favour of polygamy? Logically, you cannot argue for one kind of “freedom” without the other.

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  • @Hal Austin January 18, 2020 1:48 PM

    Happy New Year and all the best to you and the family. I was getting worried and thought you decided to quit contributing because some of us try to keep you in line every now and then – lol.

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  • @Ewart Archer January 18, 2020 9:12 AM “Amid the frenzy over local political corruption, which has led many on this blog to celebrate the crucifixion of Donville Innis, let us be mindful of the fact that this trial in the United States was obviously the result of a backroom deal between (white) prosecutors in the United States and (white) business executives based in Barbados — a deal which concealed the wrongdoing of the (white) puppetmasters involved in the much-discussed payoffs.”

    Looka, now you got me here almost defending wicked white men [and women] but I have to remind you that Donville is NOT a puppet, and that if he arranged with others to commit money laundering no white body was holding his brain, nor his hand and forcing him to do money laundering. Donville could have said “no.”

    So there is not point in you crying victim tears on Donville’s behalf.

    Donville is NOT a victim. White people have done a lot of wickedness to black people,but in this instance it is Donville self who did the wickedness to Donville self and to me as well because I am a long time customer of ICBL and no doubt the bribe money and the subsequent disgorgements to the U.S.A. government were coming out of my pockets. And the USA government and people are rich and i am not. The damn people were picking my pockets and I didn’t even know.

    Was that a good way to treat a poor black woman? We poor black women who gave birth to all of the big shot men, who cleaned their bottoms, wiped their snotty noses, cooked their food, taught them how to read and write, and then in our old age they juck we.

    Not nice. not nice at all.

    If a white man frigs me up I can say that the old rascal hates poor black women, but when a black man frigs me up and picks my pocket in my old age…

    Do you understand how bad it makes me feel?

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Archer

    I am a forceful advocate of equal human rights for all human beings. Period.

    Your attempt to pretend that polygamy is the logical equivalent of the right of an adult human being to marry another adult human being that they love is completely farcical. I mean you are really embarrassing yourself with such idiocy.

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  • The man in the hat in the picture of the newlyweds looks incredibly similar to Mikhail Gorbachev.
    “Barbadians are a people wedded to the traditional view…….”; appreciate the pun, but it goes well beyond same-sex marriage. Barbadians, in the majority, are a very homophobic group, EVEN when it comes to their own children!!! It destroys families. Irish the two well.
    The DI cloud has been hovering over the D’s. Barring the sentencing and appeal, time to move on.
    What Barbados needs is a rash of cases, involving all types, to decrease expectations and a money flow which has become systemic. It is rampant and on the verge of tradition.

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  • @ Bajan in New York

    Many thanks and the same to you. As you know, I will come on BU if only to spar with you. As to keeping me in line, I can still remember your long hops.

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  • Enuff, we agree – the picture should not be on the front of the Rh Sunday Sunday on a bright Sunday. This is the opinion of the blogmaster to which he is entitled.

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  • @peterlawrencethompson January 18, 2020 10:15 AM “t if your wife was not a virgin when she married you she should be stoned to death in public. Deuteronomy 22, 19 I think, I’m too lazy to go check the family Bible.”

    I am not into this stoning business. Them Middle Easterners too violent to me. I don’t know why we wold want to follow themin matters of love, marriage and family life.

    But to offer up an excuse for them; back in those days women, girls really were married just after their first period, and it is not hard to be a 12, 13. or 14 year old virgin. Even i, an elderly cougar according to the miller’s reckoning was a virgin throughout ALL of my teens.

    So “no” virginity in the teens is normal and natural, not difficult to be, no big deal.

    But try being or finding a 25 or 35 year old virgin.

    Lolll!!!

    Those are as rare as hen’s teeth.

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  • Not even Prince Charles could find one. Of course he was not one either.

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  • My first response to this nonsense post from the most powerful blogmaster with the only forum in the world where we can share our opinions was, “STEUPSE to the billionth degree!”

    But I do have some “late breaking news” for Ewart Archer who wonders when the shift towards homosexuality occurred since his Roman Catholic family has not changed its position.

    Dear sir, the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic church has not changed its position either, which was always, “Do as we say and not as we do!” Roman Catholic priests and even popes have always been the chief purveyors of homosexuality, paedophilia and downright lasciviousness. After all, what would be expected of anything Roman?

    To the most powerful blogmaster’s non point, I see nothing wrong with the Nation’s reporting. Peter is married in France and other places. They need not fit their language into Barbados law. I don’t know if the editors expressed a favourable opinion of the marriage but if they did they have the right to do so. Newspapers have sought to influence public thinking from the beginning of journalism. Human rights were advanced by some publications. Peter and other homosexuals are human. And as far as I know, they did not make themselves. I do not know what caused them to be homosexual and neither do the people who condemn them. But it seems that EVERYBODY has an opinion – based on what exactly?

    Frankly, I don’t see how Peter’s being homosexual or married takes away from my life or anybody else’s. I am not going to waste my time searching for things to be upset about.

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  • @Ewart Archer January 18, 2020 10:42 AM “I would be interested in finding out exactly how and when Barbados became a morally degenerate society I certainly never became aware of any attitude shifts in my own Roman Catholic family. It is shocking to me that people do not see this change as problematic.”

    Why you don’t spend you time telling your hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of Roman Catholic priests and very likely lay people too to stop foo-ping the people’s boy children?

    “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? ”
    Matthew 7: 3-5

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @David

    Yes, you are absolutely entitled to hold a stupid opinion; you are even legally entitled to hold this homophobic opinion. Barbados law does not prohibit either stupidity or homophobia.

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  • @ Peter

    I think our time would now be better spent pressuring our AG into
    honouring his promises on the political platform to ensure “corruption is stamped out in this island.”

    He has been given all the information from the US, seeing that his pleading with the commissioner here to act bore no fruit.

    Don’t let us get side tracked with petty issues, but instead let us hold his and the others feet to the fire for follow through and results on this matter locally in our local courts.

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  • So…. the newspaper should not print certain news on a Sunday??????????? How about mass murder, gang rape, a child sex ring? Should these newsworthy items be HIDDEN on the back page or held back until non bright (apparently) Monday morning.

    Getting more ridiculous by the post!

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  • So David up in a arms about the Nation making the marriage front page news and then a week later he reproduces the topic and same picture on his blog ?
    It’s indeed a funny world. It’s like saying you are going to cut off a man’s legs and then help him to walk.

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  • 2John A January 18, 2020 11:54 AM “Well to me their marriage neither improves my day nor makes it worst. For years bout here they were so called ” respectable” people who were known as closet queens.”

    So true. And some were Parliamentarians. And how do I know? One was in an “informal marriage” with a close relative of mine for decades, even while the formal heterosexual marriage still existed.

    We Bajans so dishonest.

    Stupssseee!!!

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  • @ohn A January 18, 2020 11:54 AM “What can I say as a man i felt the need to make one last attempt at converting this nice young thing was required ! LOL”

    Stop wasting your time do.

    Lolll!!!

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  • @Baje January 18, 2020 12:08 PM

    You know as well as I do that the Prime Minister works at Government headquarters on Bay Street, if you want to malicious up in she business why you doan write and ask she yourself, you doan have to ask for a friend.

    And by the way are you Baje homosexual?

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  • @Peter

    What can one say except that the blogmaster is a human being and therefore afflicted by the fallibility of humankind.

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  • @ David,

    Should we also discuss the other front page story titled ” FOR SALE SHOCK ” “Residents surprised by move to sell land on the East coast ” ?

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  • @ Silly Woman

    I was just joking about that but I have to admit we had a really good laugh over it. The girls were pleasant for sure and enjoyed a good nonesence talk.

    When it comes to peoples personal and religious leanings I don’t judge. All I ask is don’t try to force your beliefs on me, as the discussion will come to an abrupt end as I will simply walk away.

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  • @John A

    Have you had a chance to listen to Peter Wickham bullying callers on the issue?

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  • @John A January 18, 2020 12:14 PM

    “if at your age you still confused all i can say that you lucky I int your wife, becausin if i was I would have had you committed [for being confused] you have lived long enough to know thyself

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  • ” the picture should not be on the front of the Rh Sunday Sunday on a bright Sunday. This is the opinion of the blogmaster to which he is entitled.” I concur!

    I would like Mr, Tomlinson or whatever his name is – from Jamaica, to stay out of Barbados LGBT Queer matters. We are quite capable to hold or not hold our own discussions on this topic when we are ready, we do not need your constant public interference to bully us in trying to change our laws on this agenda. Please!

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  • @ Silly Woman

    The wife laughs at me and says only I would find myself in such a discussion with 2 lesbians LOL. As we age we must open our minds to change and realise we are not in 1950 anymore. Through discussion we can actually gain an insight into the thinking of others.

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  • @ David.

    I have to be honest and say I don’t really listen to the call in programs that much. I believe he has now come out on this matter so one can only imagine if asked questions on air, he will respond to them. Hopefully the discussion will not degrade into the gutter during such exchanges.

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  • @ Hants
    The situation is so disgraceful even a judge has spoken out. By the way, have you noticed how Chinese and others are taking over business Barbados, while the micro-managing president continues with her mantra of world class and punching above our weight?

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  • @ Ewart Archer January 18, 2020 9:12 AM

    How did pigmentation enter the equation? Wasn’t it required that after noticing an irregularity that the parent company report the matter to the relevant authorities ? Inniss was greedy and got what he deserved and to attempt to introduce race into the equation is really silly.

    As for the Peter Wickham affair, I have one reservation. This a personal opinion, I think the term marriage should be restricted to the union of female and male. I am sure a name can be found for the union of those of the same sex. You might wonder why I have arrived at this stance. For good or bad across all societies from ancient times the union between female and male has been given the title marriage and was encouraged .By referring to same sex union as marriage and using equality as the basis for the conclusion, is a result of taking matters to a logical conclusion. However, taking things to their logical conclusion do not work. in all cases. Human society has been crafted by trial and error over many millennia and what worked resulted in an increase in the cohesiveness of the society . Sometime ago, I cited the case of woman in the UK who decided she wanted to be a man. Then he/she decided that it was time to have a baby. He/She then decided after the birth of the baby, that although having given birth to the baby he/she should be listed as the father on the birth certificate. It was pointed out that women give birth not men and that she/he had given birth and therefore could not be listed as the father. An appeal is planned. It is this chaos which leads to a lack of cohesiveness in society.

    As for Verla Depezia: I think the bit about a sad day for Barbados is really over reaction due to shock.

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  • ” Homosexual acts are illegal (regardless of whether they were consensual and done in private) in Barbados, with a life sentence; however, the law is rarely enforced. ”

    So what if a police officer decided to enforce the law and charge somebody ?

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  • I was indeed wondering about that news item about the sale of land on the East Coast. Seems like a more important story. I will have to read it at the library.

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  • @Hants

    The story is what does the physical development plan says about any owner can develop the land. Hopefully John can lend input.

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  • In the Name of Common Sense

    @ Peter “I am a forceful advocate of equal human rights for all human beings. Period.”

    That’s an odd take for someone who so viscerally spews racist nonsense about white folks.

    To the first issue, I am not sure about David’s view that it shouldn’t have been in the Sunday Sun. It is news in the sense that Wickham is a public figure. i’m not sure about the front page but I don’t editorialize for the NATION so who cares about what the old man thinks? Broadly I would tend to agree with Robert Lucas. Marriage should be kept to a certain, well known definition. If you need to report on other kinds of arrangements, you should refer to unions or arrangments. That’s just my view about what is a somewhat personal issue. However, I cannot agree that marriage is an entirely private concern. Anyone who knows anything about sociology would know that marriage is but one example of an institution that has far reaching effects for the entire society. So I do support fully our Caribbean laws which restrict marriage to the traditional sense. Our laws with respect to buggery and the like are generally unenforced so in my view pose no “human rights” threat to the local LGBT people, but is simply a way for us to uphold morality in law, while morality falls all around us in practice. It is my view that we should hold on to for as long as possible, even if in the form of an unenforced law.

    To the second matter, Donville’s conviction is complex in the sense that it is a sad day when an ex-Barbadian Cabinet minister would be convicted of a crime, as serious as money laundering, but it is a fantastic day for justice and for the People of Barbados who suffered ten years under the oppressive and arrogant yoke of Donville and his fellow vagabounds and hooligans.

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  • @Baje January 18, 2020 12:08 PM

    You know as well as I do that the Prime Minister works at Government headquarters on Bay Street, if you want to malicious up in she business why you doan write and ask she yourself, you doan have to ask for a friend.

    And by the way are you Baje homosexual?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I will answer your question by saying this.

    Several years ago I pulled into one of the local gas stations to fill my car at the time with gasoline.

    In front of me were another car and a beautiful brown-skinned very sexy mature lady got out on the passenger side and started making her way towards the minimart store.

    Upon seeing her I got out of my vehicle and made a beeline to follow her and engage her in conversation so that I could get a name and number.

    As I walked past the car the driver door opened and a recognizable female got out and in a very deep voice called out my first name it was Mia Mottley then Opposition Leader.

    I spoke, and then walked into the minimart but abandoning my initial thoughts as I knew that she was one of Mia’s “friend”.

    Seem like @ John A, Mia and I both have similar taste for the female sex.

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  • Let me add this was late at night close to the midnight hour.

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  • Dr. Lucas

    You appear to be assuming that the payments to Donville Inniss were unauthorized and that the executives at the highest levels of the organization discovered them after the fact, and reported them to the authorities as soon as they discovered the irregularity.

    That may or may not be the case, but in the meantime I have some land to sell you in the South Florida Everglades.

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  • @ Baje

    My sympathy I know how you must of felt. Lol

    I got a married friend of mine that when ever he sees a beautiful young thing, he always consoles himself by saying “she probably miserable as ass anyhow.”😂

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  • @ Donna January 18, 2020 3:25 PM

    “I was indeed wondering about that news item about the sale of land on the East Coast. Seems like a more important story. I will have to read it at the library..”

    @ Robert Lucas January 14,2020/2.44PM

    “When I was the agronomist at Soil Conservation, the area of the East Coast came under the supervision of the Soil Conservation Board(SCB). Erection of buildings on the coastal side was prohibited. On the landward side no new buildings could be erected unless sanctioned by the SCB. Any new buildings had to be of wood: this proviso was made due to the fact of frequent soil slippage. There was a particular case which comes to mind ; the owner of most of the land on the landward side was a Simmons/Simmonds who apparently had started a bank and had invested the depositors funds in purchasing the land referred to. Apparently after the investment had been made some slippage occurred and the whole scheme was placed on the back burner. Whilst I was there, an attempt was made to resuscitate the project. The idea was turned down because of the soil slippage factor. I mention this since there was an article in the news purporting the imminent development of the area. I am curious about the fact that the private landowner was not identified in the article. It would be in the public interest to verify if there is any connection between current sitting members of parliament and ownership of said land.

    There was some question about ownership of the land when I was at Soil: The question surrounded the depositors’ claims. Follow the names and like follow the money, you will find out things.

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  • All the people making slanderous remarks about Roman Catholic priests should be ashamed if themselves.

    Why? The Roman Catholic Church has more than 400,000 priests working around the world. Fewer than 1% of these priests gave been accused of sexual misconduct

    Obviously, the Church is susceptible to infiltration by undesirables. But instead of attacking the Pope, you should be commending him for limiting the damage inflicted by evil men

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  • @John
    This is for your friend..
    I was madly in love with a girl that did not love me back. Turns out that was my good luck..

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  • @ Hal Austin January 18, 2020 3:07 PM

    I was wondering if you had taken time off to recover from the Johnson’s win.

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  • It is interesting to note as reported in the press the land being sold is if two plots the smaller owned by re Barbados National Trust and the much larger piece an unknown private citizen. Interesting because both appear to have decided together to sell.

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  • @ Robert

    It will take a lifetime to get over the great British public electing a liar , charlatan and womaniser as prime minister and rejecting a man of principle. I have now seen everything. Donville Inniss for prime minister.
    Hope you are well.

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  • @ Ewart Archer January 18, 2020 4:17 PM

    ” I have some land to sell you in the South Florida Everglades.”

    If I had the money I would take up your offer. With all minerals being deposited and diversity of faunal and flora; I should be able to discover new medicines, antibiotics and so on.

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  • Slanderous remarks about Roman Catholic priest. Not even The Pope has ever released the total amount of money the church had spent to date on settling ” allegations.” All they have ever said it is a substantial amount.

    Yet the said church has alot to say about everyone else in this world of ours. Didn’t the goodly book say “let he without sin cast the first stone?”

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @ In the Name of Common Sense
    “That’s an odd take for someone who so viscerally spews racist nonsense about white folks.”
    ++++++++++

    That’s a complete lie, but an amusing one because half the blog wants to cut my head off for defending White people when they are unjustly accused while you and the other half think that I hate White folks. Stupidity all around.

    I notice that you are the kind of coward who hides behind a pseudonym when telling your lies. Typical.

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  • @PLT

    For 2020, while some are gatherin’, let us out the anonymous predators stalking BU.

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  • @ Hal January 18, 2020 4:44 PM

    I am okay for now. You really think very poorly of Johnson.

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  • @ Ewart Archer

    When you done with the bible let me give you some facts about you Catholic church based on reality. Go and read the article dated 2.12.19 published in Market Watch.

    It is stated there and I quote in capitals AS A RESULT OF THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE STATUE OF LIMITATIONS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL FACE $4 BILLION DOLLARS IN NEW LAWSUITS ON THEIR PRIEST FOR MOLESTATION FROM AN ADDITIONAL 5000 CASES SO FAR.

    Now I know a few according to you is a debatable figure, but boss if 5000 is a few what is alot?

    The article also goes on to say the list of cases is still growing.

    So when you come here with holier than though claims, make sure you can support your argument with data.

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  • John A

    5,000 cases is probably a lie, but so far, there have been many cases per accused priest. So 5,000 cases does not mean 5,000 accused priests. It might mean 100 accused priests and 5,000 alleged victims.

    The word “alleged” is important because, especially in North America, there us no shortage of crooks trying to rip off the Church with false accusations

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ewart Archer
    5,000 is very likely only the tip of the iceberg of Catholic Church child molestation offenses, given the immense riches of the organization, its well documented history of corruption since the dark ages, and the efforts they have put into the coverup.

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  • @HantsJanuary 18, 2020 3:15 PM

    You realize the issue in Bajan law is buggery, as opposed to homosexuality. If a fellow eases his member into his lady’s anus, that is a crime. That is buggery, it doesn’t apply only if the anus belongs to another man. Two homosexual women cannot bugger unless they use some “aid”. So the statement isn’t accurate, despite being made by a former AG.

    Yet, Barbadians are notorious for being intolerant towards anything, other than a traditional male-female union. And whether the law(s) are enforced or not, this intolerance is internationally known. @Sarge(?), posted the story from the Rainbow Railroad of two lesbians from Bim who had fled due to the difficulty they had living there.

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  • Here is another opportunity for the blogmaster to be pellucid on this matter of outing anonymous commenters – you will be allowed to do no such thing.

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  • David
    ” the picture should not be on the front of the Rh Sunday Sunday on a bright Sunday. This is the opinion of the blogmaster to which he is entitled.”

    Well stop trying to deny you’re homophobic. Fear, discomfort etc are all captured in your comments. Just own yuh homophobia.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    I have made no attempt to be outing anonymous commenters. However, their cowardice in slandering others while cowering behind their anonymity is also pellucid.

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  • @enuff

    This blogmaster has been awarded every label imaginable, being homophobic is already taken.

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  • @ Ewart Archer.

    No don’t get confuse. They have been over 5000 NEW cases already filed in the court system SINCE the statue of limitations was adjusted, with these NEW cases alone expected to cost the church AN ADDITIONAL $4 billion.

    That had nothing to do with the billions that was paid out under the old law prior to the limitation adjustment.

    Oh and who you think had lawyers arguing strong against the limitation adjustment act? That’s right none other than the good old Catholic church!

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  • @ David January 18, 2020 2:55 PM

    @John A
    Have you had a chance to listen to Peter Wickham bullying callers on the issue?

    He peddled the topic so much that it was evident that there was an agenda. Even when the program was discussing a totally different topic, he would steer it in the direction. He has been particularly hostile to Christianity. I hope he realizes that Muslims would kill him and would not be tolerant .He has been remarkably silent on Islam, maybe he feared a Fatwah.

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  • Natlee has great admirers in Peter Wickham et hal.

    [video src="https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/natalee.mp4" /]

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  • @ Ewart Archer.

    Now before you rush to take up an extra collection to help them pay the $ 4 billion they need to settle these cases, let me help you with how dam rich they are as of 2018.

    I invite you when you done read the Market Watch article I directed you to, then read The World Today article by Emily Bourke written on 12th February 2018. Again I quote WHILE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’S TOTAL WEALTH IS UNKNOWN THEIR WEALTH BASED ON WHAT IS KNOW IS IN EXCESS OF $30 BILLION.

    Now why she had to say ” total is unknown ” is because no one has been ever able to confirm the gold holdings in the Papal Bank. Not even the government of the country has the authority to enter or audit The Papal Bank.

    Wunna now understand the type of power and wealth the Catholic Church got?

    Enough said on that topic as we just discussed fact vs fiction.

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  • @ Robert Lucas

    When you say peddled the discussion in that direction do you mean the same sex marriage one? I ask because as I said I seldom listen to that show.

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  • @Peter

    Unlike many commenters the blogmaster does not have the luxury of being thin skinned.

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  • @ John A January 18, 2020 6:28 PM

    Yes and the gay lifestyle. It was an obvious agenda. The radio station did nothing. After a while I tuned out particularly in the vegan agenda he has been peddling being very intolerant of meat eaters. Also referred to men as being worthless in regards to the treatment of women.

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  • @ Ewart Archer January 18, 2020 4:37 PM
    “All the people making slanderous remarks about Roman Catholic priests should be ashamed if themselves.
    Why? The Roman Catholic Church has more than 400,000 priests working around the world. Fewer than 1% of these priests gave been accused of sexual misconduct
    Obviously, the Church is susceptible to infiltration by undesirables. But instead of attacking the Pope, you should be commending him for limiting the damage inflicted by evil men”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So what is so wrong with the RC Church employing married men as priests?

    Don’t other denominations like the Anglican and Methodists peddling the same religious dogma employ married men (and women)?

    How about women for the 21st century? How come the feminist movement has not ‘dragged’ this ‘holy virgin Mary’ institution over the coals for sexism because of its discriminatory stance on women?

    Don’t you think such a policy of unmarried (celibate) men only for the priesthood would attract, disproportionately speaking, sexual weirdoes like closet faggots, paedophiles and life-long wankers (professional ‘jerk-offers’)?

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  • Miller

    Do you have any idea how busy the typical Catholic priest is? As a practical matter, there is no way he could balance the responsibilities of husband, father and priest without giving short shrift to his priestly functions.

    As for female priests, let’s remind ourselves there were no female disciples. Jesus Christ was not a feminist.

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