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Piece:
As usual, whenever you cannot answer a simple question, you reveal your true nature.
You claimed that Atherley must step aside because he lacks charisma. You used the lack of charisma of Jeremy Corbyn as justification.
I gave you the example of the non-charismatic John Major, who led the UK Conservatives to a historic win. This suggested that your analysis was flawed.
Rather than correct your analysis, or defend it, you responded by going where you are comfortable – in the gutter.
If you and your pdp colleagues hate the way that Barbadians look, then what is the real purpose of trying to represent them? Do you wish that you had certain European features when you look in the mirror Piece?
You are only getting a lot worse Piece. You are also influencing your pdp colleagues to become as pathetic as yourself. But you are now Atherley’s problem, not ours.
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@ Grenville Phillips aka Bedroom Policeman aka Iso TALIBAN
It is you NOT I who talks about Majors in Englant
Mine remains the unchanged statement about a Barbadian construct
1.Thirty seats were won by Mugabe Mottley You and your lot at No Solutions Barbados WERE NOT SEEN AS A VIABLE CHOICE, THEN OR NOW, because you, granted that you did not make yourself, are as lifeless as discarded condoms FACT
2.the 30-0 results presented a Constitutional crisis for Barbados FACT
3.Going back to the people like Israel did, WAS NOT DESIRABLE because it would have meant that the DLP slime could have been returned FACT
4.Mugabe wisely thought better of that option ALTERNATIVE FACT
5.Reverend Atherley either was chosen or opted to be the one crossing the floor FACT
6.The PdP is a viable contender for the next General Elections in 2021 FACT
7.to win, AS A 3RD PARTY MOVEMENT they have to be perceived IN THEIR BEST LIGHT FACT!
8.Having a leader WHO DOES NOT INSPIRE CONFIDENCE, like you did not inspire confidence in the No Solutions Barbados scout club IS NOT AN OPTION – FACT!
The UK General Elections IF TAKEN ON BOARD BY THE PdP in conjunction with de ole man’s advice WILL RESULT IN VICTORY which you at No Solutions BARBADOS CANNOT ACHIEVE – FACT!
I dont need to answer any of your questions
I do not work for you, my authority comes from the Lord who made the Heavens and The Earth.
You are out of your depth here as such relates to giving Barbados viable options.
The FACT IS THAT SENATOR FRANKLYN presents credibility HE DOES NOT HAVE TO MANUFACTURE SUCH.
The PdP has a winning slate some of whom might have been former No Solutions Barbados candidates but grow up and get over it!
How comes it that they were great when they were part of No Solutions Barbados but suddenly are Judases while in the PdP?
Whether my enemies or otherwise ALL PEOPLE SEE ME AS A CITIZEN WHO LOVES BARBADOS and wants it to prosper without a Dictatorship
While you are seen as a bitter megalomaniac whose colleagues left him to get candidates to sign contracts for 250K IF THEY LEFT YOUR PARTY! FACT!
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@Northern Observer
Watched the video a few years ago and it jolted a particular perspective. We are creatures of the information we soaked in our space.
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The “space” that the PdP needs to occupy RAPIDLY, is the one of a party that CARES AND HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO SAVE THE COUNTRY!
de ole man is BEING PRAGMATIC with my suggestion of a change of leadership.
This is what Jeremy Corbyn of Labour DID NOT DO and has lost as a result AND WILL BE FORCED OUT FOR!
You need to know WHEN IT IS TIME TO GO VOLUNTARILY!
Corbyn DID NOT SEE THAT, neither did Fumbles Stuart, nor does the Megalomaniac Grenville Phillips aka Bedroom Policeman
Once the transition inside the PdP is managed wisely THE CURRENCY WILL AUGUR to the party.
1.Atherley WILL NOT WIN IN ST MICHAEL WEST
2.He will not be returned to the HoA for a 4th term!
3.He WILL LOSE BUT HE needs to lose like a star boy! On his own terms, AND TEKKING OUT NUFF PEOPLE so to speak.
He needs to lose fighting against Mugabe Mottley!
4.In the process he has to broadcast his message from early.
This is why the Democrats, KNOWING THAT THE IMPEACHMENT WILL FAIL, have prolonged it until 2021!!!
This is not rocket science!!!
5.And with his broadcast, Atherley and his party HAVE TO NAME THEIR CHAMPION, CASWELL!
This is not a betrayal, it was known to de ole man BUT SHARING IT WAS AND IS DIFFICULT!
But anything else is ABSOLUTE DEFEAT!
Piece the Legend has spoken!
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Finland is winning the war on fake news. What it’s learned may be crucial to Western democracy
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This is why the Democrats, KNOWING THAT THE IMPEACHMENT WILL FAIL, have prolonged it until 2021!!!
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The Democrats operate on HATE that’s why they are clinging on to impeachment.
Watch Pelosi’s reaction to the reporter’s question “Do you hate Donald Trump”?
That’s the single reason they will probably lose the House in 2020 and Trump will probably get reelected.
In 2021 they may not even exist as a political force.
Like love, hate is a human emotion that can’t be hidden.
They have been found out.
Trump keeps on trucking and getting success after success while they are mired down in the negativity of HATE.
Watch the response to him at the rallies where 10’s of thousands turn up to enjoy.
Love at work!!
There is also the element of self preservation involved in the prolongation.
They have created a reason for Barr and Durham to pursue their evil to the ends of the earth.
They need to take Trump out if they are to survive intact.
Trump is succeeding at draining the swamp and they are scared shitless.
The Senate isn’t going to waste time on the rubbish articles of impeachment that may, or may not be presented to it.
Their out at the moment is for the vote next week to be lost in the House and for the Senate not to even come into play.
Pelosi needs 218 votes and there are 235 Democrats.
All are not stupid and can read the writing on the wall!!
I feel there will be defections especially by those Democrats who are in Trump country!!
Wonder if I will be right like I was about both Trump and now Boris.
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@Ewart Archer
Given that you consider democracy to be a ‘utopian fantasy’, it follows that you accept my basic point that the Westminster system is not democracy. I’m sufficiently aware to understand that people support different political systems, such as the Westminster system, fascist systems, racist systems, socialist systems to name a few. My main argument is that the Westminster is not democratic and continually describing it as such is simply spreading disinformation. -
It is the female lionesses who are at the root of the trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Were it not for them the five males would not have invaded!!
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Piece:
There are 12 political parties in Barbados. People interested in representing Barbadians can apply to join any of them, run as independents, or start their own political party. FACT.
They can join another party because of the charisma of the leader, the honesty of the leader, the competence of the leader, the policies espoused, or any other reason. But once joined, they are expected to follow the Party’s constitution, and abide by the will of the majority in accordance with that constitution. FACT.
To slither into Atherley’s party, and then to attempt a rebellion to oust him, as you are broadcasting here, is despicably disrespectful to Atherley. FACT.
If you are now disillusioned with Atherley, then why try to bring him down publicly? Why not leave graciously, start your own party and implement your own grand ideas? Why try to damage his reputation in this small island? Is it that your true nature will not allow it? A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. FACT.
Your actions of starting this mutiny within Atherley’s party is pathetic. You and and the other pdp members who are betraying Atherley can justifiably be called Judases. FACT.
You, as the pdp spokesman here on BU, by your own statements, are promoting the pdp as a party of Judases. FACT.
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@ Tee White
Is there a democrat ic system that you prefer?
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@Grenville
So many issues to prosecute and you return to base conservations over and over?
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@ John Q
As usual you list many of the facts here regarding this impeachment issue
And while the Pelosi tape with her response about “hating” the President is skewed based on your Donald bias, you have raised the point that I am making here.
What is the “lay” of the land that underpins 218 votes?
Upon what do these representatives rely WHAT IS THE VOTER SENTIMENT, ONCE THEY SEEK IMPEACHMENT?
This is what the People’s Party for Democracy and Development need to understand clearly about the lay of the land in Barbados
This is an alternating duopoly where people have moved from BLP to DLP for 53 years!!!
For a Third Party to even be considered there has to be significant seismic activity for people to notice it.
You remember Redifusion?
“…Ther will be ground swells 3 feet high, arriving from the east north east every 3 minutes” DOES NOT DESCRIBE AN EARTHQUAKE.
Jeremy Corbyn lost because he was an unnoticeable insulation in the landscape of the UK AND HE HAS A SHIFTY LOOK!
He is no Justin Trudeau NOR CASWELL FRANKLYN
Look at this Stoopid Cartoon
If Caswell Franklyn picks up a phone and seeks an audience with the IDB you thinks his bonafides would be questioned?
That is the sort of currency Corbyn lacked in his environment WHICH GRENVILLE LACKS!
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@ the Honourable Blogmaster
Your assistance please with an item here thank you
The nature of the Bedroom Policeman aka Grenville Phillips has to be exposed to its maximum SO THAT PEOPLE SEE HIME AS WHAT HE IS!
You, in your Disinformation Role will try to defend him BUT ITS USELESS.
Over the last 4 years de ole man has seen Grenville Phillips show his megalomaniac behaviours
And during the last 2 years I been living on he head, rent free while prodding his donkey heheheheh
Time will show if de ole man’s suggestions to the PDP, will be effected OR NOT!
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@ Piece
I don’t always agree with your submissions but I find your current thinking about Atherley extremely interesting. I have long determined that Atherley’s political currency is plummeting on a daily basis.
He only has to look at what happened to Mascoll.
Politics is somewhat like gangsterism – snitches meet violent ends. Quite frankly your advice to Atherley to abandon the leadership of the party at this stage is bordering on brilliant political strategy. It would bring a new face to combat Depeiza and Atherley’s gesture may be interpreted as politically magnanimous and the party itself could reap some benefit.
Unlike others on BU who want to write you off for reasons best known to themselves, I find your political acumen to be very engaging.
By now you should try to resist getting into political debate with aspiring political leaders who are dismissive of any opinion that does not embrace their immediate thinking. -
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By now you should try to resist getting into political debate with aspiring political leaders who are dismissive of any opinion that does not embrace their immediate thinking.
I add this to skinner’ s piece
By now you should try to resist getting into political debate with aspiring political leaders who are dismissive of any opinion that does not embrace their immediate thinking. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT MAN’S BEHAVIOUR IS WORST THAN THE SYMPTOMS OF PROSTATISM -
It seems it was all about BREXIT. If only Corbyn and Labour understood it.
https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/uk_elections.png
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@ William Skinner December 14, 2019 10:49 AM
A rather insightful appreciation of the man called “Piece” with his flamboyantly masterful but unique style of analysis of the Bajan political landscape.
The man “PUDRYR” has earned his stripes as a political pundit par excellence and definitely deserves to be treated as a guru.
Never underestimate that man of Rasputin connections with the enviable odds of 30 –0 and 50 in one year.
He is blessed with that special gift of exposing charlatans of every colour.
Just look how he is able to expose the political chameleon Grenville P 2 to the ‘blue’ light of political fornication.GP No.2- the megalomaniac- hiding behind the Jesus mask- wants to be both the chief of the bedroom police and the dictator of political prostitution to ensure his business has a piece of pie in the sky.
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@ Mr William Skinner
I am humbled by your post at 10.49 am.
Let me explain my strategy as the character Piece the Legend in general.
I am the Permanent Antagonist on Barbados Underground
My Purposed strategy is not to gain friends AND WHILE I WILL MAKE ENEMIES the goal of my engagements IS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO THINK!
De ole man is loved by few, respected by a few more AND HATED BY MANY MORE!
But I task myself to make sure that each post MUST CONTAIN SOMETHING THAT SAYS “hold on a moment, I did not think about that” , or de ole man shows dat ” it’s just the same ole same ole” and, if I am lucky, “what if the tin foil wearer is right?”
We always talking bout wanting to change BUT MR SKINNER, IT SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE TO YOU THAT, ANY TOPIC DE OLE MAN SUBMITS TO BU about the Third Party Movement or Pornville Inniss IS QUASHED!
But he pretends he love Barbados bad huh
In a country with so many faults, ALL OF WHICH PEOPLE LOVE TO KEEP HIDDEN, Mr Skinner, there is a reluctant place for a chronic fault finder.
It is because people are afraid to stand up that when I stand up I AM SEEN because those around me are cowering
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@David
your@12.29The post mortem is going to be interesting, but post mortems are completed when the patients are dead…….
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Listen to the man and you will understand how he did it!!
It isn’t charisma although he has plenty of that.
It is all about God given ability and talent!!
The Democrats have absolutely nothing to compare.
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If you look at Trump and Boris you will see they have one thing in common!!
They know what they have to do.
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@John
That’s not the only thing they have in common. They’re also both hardcore racists. Google Steve Bannon and his efforts to create a global white supremacist movement. -
By now you should try to resist getting into political debate with aspiring political leaders who are dismissive of any opinion that does not embrace their immediate thinking.
I started to say wait one cotton picking minute as a reference to a catch phrase from a childhood cartoon but caught myself … and mentally waltzed into profanity (here abbreviated to) “… that is racist…WTF I never realized that then”.
All that to say…are you guys SERIOUSLY condemning this man Phillips in that way when powerful world leaders have taken that approach and pumped it up to the power of 10 and ridden it to electoral success! Really guys.
I disagree muchly with Phillips but I am yet to accept that the man is some troglodyte of Mia’s reactionary cave man force helping her undermine our nation.
And as much as I deeply respect @Pieces’ passion, intelligence and all round nous some of his broadsides against Phillips are bluntly irrational.
Phillips can be very dismissive of criticism (when he went after the Dean some months back on a legal disagreement no less, I was totally totally kerfufflled -and impressed- by his cajones)… but can you guys please show me WHICH dominant leader (aspiring or otherwise) has NOT adopted that same ploy.
Come now guys we can’t have one rule for the Barrows, Adams or Trumps of this world and another for the Phillips now can we…unless hypocrisy is or intent.
And we can’t not open our eyes to what was bold faced racist tinges in our youth either!
Just saying!
And talking about racism… @Senor John, Trump also knew what he had to do when he countersued the US govt to prevent it from demanding his business STOP discriminating against Black renters; he knew also when he hired an avowed white supremacist to be a senior adviser and agreed with that man in labelling racist killers intent on harming peaceful protestors as being “good” people as compared to the protesting forces.
He knew what he was doing when he asked for a favor of the Ukraine PM too and clearly knew what he was doing when he met with Putin with only his translator and then demanded that all notes taken be handed over.
Yep he knows exactly what he is doing…for the good, the bad and the treasonous and not another soul can (or should) do like him… that’s for sure!
I gone.
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@Hal
We need to create it. Just like the capitalist Englishmen created their Westminster system in the 17th century. -
@Dee Word
Ignore, it is contrived opposition. Crabs in a barrel approach.
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@ Miller
@ PieceThe country is in an intense battle with itself.
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Hilary Clinton tried to win by maintaining the status quo when a fool could tell people wanted different.
Trump knows what he has to do.
Corbyn was all about maintaining the status quo and trying to spoil Boris’ chances.
Boris also knows what he had to do.
So after May stepped down he ran the course and got rained on!!
So those despicable working class northerners, a bunch of deplorables acted.
Boris earned their respect.
… and there’s where Boris has gone … to thank them.
Boris knows and they know what has to be done and for the moment they have his back.
Will Boris be as successful as Trump?
Will Trump continue to be successful?
The oppositions in the US and GB need to realise there is a job to do and get stuck in.
It can’t be business as usual … it doesn’t work.
The Dudley’s in Barbados just need someone to shake them up and sweep them away.
It is easier than it appears!!
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@ John December 14, 2019 1:20 PM
What are you saying here, John you disciple of Trump? That Trump is a godsend from Yahweh to the modern World?
Is your anointed ‘one’ your version of a reincarnation of your Saviour sent back to save the World, again, from Chinese economic domination and Islamic communism?
Are you comparing him to your Jesus Christ XP with his pending impeachment the equivalent of Jesus’s trial before Pilate?
Trumpian son of god is nothing more than a self-serving egotistical megalomaniac bastard born in from the same womb as Hitler and his brothers (and sisters) of necessary evil.
Sir John, you must never put your faith in fickle men and ephemeral women but in the reliable Light which shines eternally in the heavens.
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Miller
December 14, 2019 2:39 PM@ John December 14, 2019 1:20 PM
What are you saying here, John you disciple of Trump? That Trump is a godsend from Yahweh to the modern World?+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I thought it was pretty clear but obviously way above your pay grade.
I am telling Grenville and any others with the sense to listen how to get elected!!
My gut tells me the BLP may end up with no seats next time around.
It is possible the seats will be split among diverse candidates.
The puzzle will become are the new members of the HOA mature enough to coalesce after elections and form not only an opposition, but a government?
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@ John December 14, 2019 2:46 PM
“My gut tells me the BLP may end up with no seats next time around.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Are you, the diviner John, predicting the ‘untimely’ passing of the current political chief?
Is the energy of the wind-up doll about to expire for you to be looking forward to a repeat of a 1985 event which would throw the cat for leadership among the political chickens in the yard full of yard-fowls?
If that is the case, then we can clearly see what you are on about while looking through your crystal ball of political prediction.
History has a way of repeating itself especially in the realm of political sunrise and sun set.
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de pedantic DribblerDecember 14, 2019 2:22 PM
your intense hatred for Trump continues unabated
BUT YOU CANT DO ONE THING TO STOP HIMSO HATE ON
AND YES HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING………..DONT YOU?
HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING CAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE ALZS
YES HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING..AND YOU CANT DO ONE THING TO STOP HIM EXCEPT HATE ON
MIA TRYING TO EMULATE HIM………..BUT SHE AINT GOT IT
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Parliament is unconstitutional!!
If PTL can figure that out, the rest of the electorate, assuming he/she is a member, can also get it!!
Why he/she is wasting time with Reverend Joe and Caswell beggars the imagination.
Ms. Mockley has set herself and her party up for a monumental fall.
We just got to watch that next time there is no rigging because once the electorate realizes the scam, that is that.
People who know what they have to do should be looking to expose the Grenada and Dominica scams and digging into the Barbados scam.
CARICOM monitoring of the elections is a joke,
Maybe the people who know what they have to do may also end up cleaning up CARICOM too!!
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This is so simple!!
Just look at the facts!!
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JOHN HOW ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO TAKE DOWN MUTTLEY
WHO WILL LEAD THE VANGUARD TO TAKE DOWN MUTTLEY
BELIEVERS CAN PRAY
BELIEVERS SHOULD PRAYLIKE SOLUTIONS BARBADOS, IT IS CLEAR THAT MUTTLEY HAS NO REAL SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS
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I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THIS SITE WITH BU BLOGGERS
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David:
Sometimes it is important to stand up to bullies – regardless the topic being discussed.
Atherley is not here to defend himself. I have met him and think that he is a decent fellow. He does not deserve to be bullied on BU with no one around to defend him. Bullies are pathetic.
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@Grenville
There is nothing to defend.
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@ Tee White
I asked if there was a democratic system you preferred? If not, what would be the requirements of your preferred democratic system?
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GP
December 14, 2019 3:48 PMJOHN HOW ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO TAKE DOWN MUTTLEY
WHO WILL LEAD THE VANGUARD TO TAKE DOWN MUTTLEY
BELIEVERS CAN PRAY
BELIEVERS SHOULD PRAY
LIKE SOLUTIONS BARBADOS, IT IS CLEAR THAT MUTTLEY HAS NO REAL SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You got it.
God moves in mysterious ways.
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John
December 14, 2019 4:51 PMGP
December 14, 2019 3:48 PM
JOHN HOW ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO TAKE DOWN MUTTLEY
WHO WILL LEAD THE VANGUARD TO TAKE DOWN MUTTLEY++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ms Mockley is doing a good job herself.
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John wrote
I am telling Grenville and any others with the sense to listen how to get elected!!
class can you notice the obvious errors in the above sentence?
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Imagine . Who bullied Stuart who bullied Mottley; Who bullied Lynette Eastmond; Who bullied Owen Arthur; Who bullied Sandiford; Who bullied Bree St John; Who bullied Tom Adams; Who bullied David Thompson; Who bullied Grenville Philips……
They were all criticized on BU
Suddenly Atherley is bing bullied.
What bull is this?
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@ my fellow myope Dr GP, I continue take heart in your comment and encouragement
It is now apparent that this character Grenville Phillips always have concentrated hatred towards anyone who has a contrary opinion against his no Solutions Barbados party.
And over the years your “pressure does burst pipes” strategy has brought out his true character here on Barbados Underground
And no amount of repairs his friend the Honourable Blogmaster tries to apply to his cause, HE FAILS.
Even when the Honourable Blogmaster advises him not to engage with us apostates DE MAN JES CANT HELP HESELF
We got to stop poking he so doah
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Piece
just keep floating the balls out side the off stump and he will make a wide swingnow if you suggested that I have no solutions for the public health system or the hospital system in Barbados, I would show that you were engaging in moronic mouthings by POSTING SEVERAL THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE SHORT TERM THE MEDIUM TERM AND IN THE LONG TERM
IF i HAD NO IDEAS OR SOLUTIONS I WOULD CALL YOU JUDAS JEZEBEL AND LABEL YOU AS A DIOTROPHETIC AS HE IS
READ 3RD JOHN ABOUT DIOTROPHES- THE MAN WHO WANTED TO HAVE THE PRE-EMINENCE
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It is possible the impeachment vote in the full House could fail next week.
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The total vote share percentages in the British election:
Conservative – 43.6%
Labour – 32.2%
Liberal Democrats – 11.5%
Scottish National Party – 3.9%This means, of course, that the percentage in favor of immediate Brexit is 43.6%, while the percentage in favor of holding another referendum on Brexit is 47.6%.
Don’t you just love the Westminster system of misgovernment.
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peterlawrencethompson
December 14, 2019 9:06 PMThe total vote share percentages in the British election:
Conservative – 43.6%
Labour – 32.2%
Liberal Democrats – 11.5%
Scottish National Party – 3.9%
This means, of course, that the percentage in favor of immediate Brexit is 43.6%, while the percentage in favor of holding another referendum on Brexit is 47.6%.
Don’t you just love the Westminster system of misgovernment.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++The flaw in your logic of course is that you are assuming that all of the 32.2% of the voters who voted Labour voted against BREXIT.
Similarly the other parties other than Conservative!!
I am positive that not all 43.6% who voted Conservative voted for BREXITt!!
… but … I could be wrong and if I am feel free to correct me.
I kind of know you will.
I heard the logic on a website earlier and something about it made me go huuuuh because it made no sense to me!!
I suspect if a referendum were held given those percentages that BREXIT might pass in a landslide, but of course I could be wrong.
If say 10% of the 47.6% is added to the 43.6% and 5% of the 43.6% is added to the 47.6% (assuming conservatives twice as likely not to support Brexit) then BREXIT vs non BREXIT would be 48.6% to 42.6%.
If you up the 10% it becomes a disaster for non-BREXIT.
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(assuming conservatives twice as likely not to support Brexit)
Remove not if you haven’t already!!!!
The blogmaster invites you to join the discussion.