Barbados Underground first posted on Judgment (Suit No: CV1339 of 2008) in the Matter Justin McIntosh, Brunetta McIntosh v First Caribbean Int’l Bank (B’dos) Ltd on July 22, 2013 – see First Caribbean International Bank Not Honouring Court Judgement Handed Down Since 2009–Boycott on the Cards?. It was followed with another on the 27 March 2019, about six years later – see A Decade of Waiting on CIBC First Caribbean Bank and Attorney-at-law Bernadette D Callender.
To ensure the message was heard by FIRST CARIBBEAN INTERNATIONAL BANK (FCIB) the blogmaster posted an update on April 20, 2019 – see Reminder to the Bajan Lawyer Bernadette Callender from Aggrieved Client.
For over ten Rh years FCIB and supporting cast have delayed- or should we say obstructed- justice in the matter sought by plaintiffs Justin and Brunetta McIntosh. Enough is Rh enough!
The blogmaster has taken note that Edmund Hinskson acted as lawyer for FCIB in 2009.
Attached is recent correspondence sent to parties seeking justice to be finally delivered. The blogmaster is aware of the mea culpa that was recently issued by the Chief Justice. What are citizens seeking justice from our courts to do? What are citizens to do when a large corporate entity like FCIB frustrate the delivery of justice?
FCIB you claim you are a good corporate citizen, if we were to measure that statement using CV1339 of 2008 in the Matter Justin McIntosh, Brunetta McIntosh v First Caribbean Int’l Bank (B’dos) you will fall short. In fact there is a good case to be made in the court of public opinion that it is a false position i.e. a gimmick.
See recent documents sent by the aggrieved parties to FCIB’s legal counsel Nicole Nurse copied to David Scandiffio, CEO of FCIB in Canada, Chief Justice Sir Marson Gibson and Cicely Chase in May 2019.
We all know of “murphy’s law”. It takes on many forms. But it boils down to “if shit can happen it surely will”. We must now look at Murphy’s law from two angles. The angle of the perpetrator and the victim.
FCIB is this case is not the victim. So from their viewpoint, if they can get away with “this shit happening” so be it. From the victim viewpoint “why is this shit happening to me”.
We all need to add Murphys Law into our “yin and yang” theory of the world. Murphy’s law is neutral. And yes the legal system is also apparently subject to “murphy’s law” even after they have handed down a crystal clear decision.
As some has stated; “this is a failed state”. I will more likely call it a “failing state”. because we have laws and rules that only apply to “the some” aka “the others” and not “the all”. A “Bajan Animal Farm”?
Those that have amazon prime or access to it must watch “Carnivale Row” It will surely restate the obvious; for those that know it.
The banks run things.
You may recall when the banks stop doing property loans until BRA / government addressed a licensing stipulation it rolled out.
WOW! WOW!. Is it really legislation that we need,David BU?
We need people who promised to serve to do their damn jobs. Note Edmund Hinkson acted on behalf of CIBC in 2009 and the blogmaster is certaiohe reads BU. The interlocking relationships in a 2×3 island is suffocating.
CIBC Canada CORPORATE should also be appraised of the situation, if they haven’t already…..they have a department that INVESTIGATES…such issues..i referred someone to them and they opened an investigation…something has to be done about these demon lawyers in Barbados, one way or the next.
same thing i have been saying about these ROTTEN LAWYERS who work for these banks and other companies and sit on their boards, including the non lawyers who do the same and have access to your accouunt information and personal lives and USE IT TO THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE……while they take great pleasure in bringing misery into the lives of Bajans..
Mail to the firstname.lastname@example.org was also sent.
Barbados business plan for some…..
Wait till they die.
FCIB charges at local ATMs 5.5 percent extra fee plus 5 USD processing fee for credit cards in foreign currency! Together with the fee for the foreign credit card, this adds up to around 8 percent.
At Scotia Bank you can even withdraw money with a foreign debit card and pay only 5 USD processing fee.
Why this difference? Because FCIB lent the Stinckler many millions in 2013 and the money is now gone.
I advise all local and international customers to boycott FCIB permanently.
Some contributors here are either naive or vicious.
FCIB is, of course, trying to compensate for the losses the bank suffered through the 2013 syndicated loan plus the debt cut on the forced purchase of local government securities.
The banks have thus financed the luxurious lifestyle of the local masses.
That’s all these idiot lawyers do…WAIT UNTIL EVERYONE DIES OFF..
they wait for personal injury claimants to die..
they wait for people with grievances with banks to die
they wait for the elderly whose lands, money and estates they steal to die
that is why the supreme court CANNOT FUNCTION…even when decisions are handed down..
then when they themselves die…the wicked bar association snakes along with the reptiles in parliament…just REPEAT…the waiting for everyone to die so they can rob them CYCLE…
that is all they have been doing since the 1960s…so looking for justice without keeping a giant spotlight on them all …at all times…is an exercise in futility…..and even then, they don’t care,..
..just look at the weak excuse the CJ gave AFTER KNOWING that he was ORDERED by CCJ to EXPEDITE an appeals case…he gave the CCJ lip back then..and took 3 YEARS to do anything…that is his definition of the word expedite..
wuh recently one Judge begged some lawyers to help out with making sure some documents were filed which would enable the judge to conclude the matter expeditiously, this judge was actually trying…and what happened, the client had to make sure that the info reached the judged themself…..no one else gave a toss…and would have that matter lingering for another 2 or 3 years cause they could care less about the ramifications, although the judge begged them…
you are up against the most despicable creatures called lawyers who should not even be breathing..
Not only suffocating…it actually KILLS PEOPLE..
There is another case with the same Vonda, the lady got sick and the stress of waiting to get money that was stolen from her, returned to her..which never happened ..killed her.
.. let’s see if there will be another charge against Vonda when they cut her loose in less then 24 months…or if it will be the same run around and ring around the roses for the family until they too start getting sick and dying off….it is a pattern..they all know what they do and have been doing for decades…with no REMORSE…no EMPATHY…no SYMPATHY..nothing, they are cold and dead inside,they have no souls.
Ahh, David et al. I see you close the Mia dominance blog. Good for you fella. I was starting to get upset with the some of your dribble, you not being the real David. Next time I hope you can stick to the topic. We were talking about Mia dominance not Mia in the Bahamas or relief effort for the Bahamas. Tell me something, David et all, how does a bank getaway without honouring a courts decision? Do we have mock courts in Barbados? Is there any correlation between this and the Carrington matter were he too ignore an order of the court and force an elderly man to go nationnews on him? Plus, could the banks be following the lead of government who has, more often than not, renege on paying persons their dues. Do we have a pattern here of ignoring court judgements? If you answer, I am gone till next week.
@ WURA-WAR-on-U September 6, 2019 9:22 AM
An insightful post. The Barbadian elite have not encounter any push back of significance as yet. .By elite I refer to the politicians, judiciary and lawyers( hereafter referred to as folks). When these folks encounter an individual, who reacts with extreme prejudice towards them and the institutions they represent,it will all change. At times one has to forego due process for other methods of suasion, in order to facilitate radical change. History has shown what eventually happens to intrenched institutions or folks who try to impede change (Nicolae Ceausescu and others are fine examples).Barbadians are so passive that they do not fight for meaningful things. They ,however fight over trivia like a song at Crop Over and other mundane things. It is better to be dead than to tolerate certain things ( we all have to die eventually).
If the banks ignore the government and people what will we have to do in order to seek justice? Civilized Barbadians will not visit the bank to settle an issue with a bird beak.
@WURA-WAR-on-U September 6, 2019 11:15 AM
“There is another case with the same Vonda…”
I don’t know about you but I am disgruntled over the three years imposed. Other individuals have gotten much greater detention times for stealing less than this felon. A detention of ten years and forfeiture of assets to the value of the stolen funds plus being disbarred would be adequate as far as I am concerned. What has happened still indicates that there is protection on going.
The banks can only ignore the government if government is indebted to the banks and also when they see certain members of the ruling elite ignoring laws as well. With a country which has flimsy laws (that are preferentially enforced) and finances, the banks are in a position to call the shots.
Much has been written about the influence of banks period. Do a search of YouTube, there is peer reviewed material etc. It is not an easy nut to crack. You may recall banks were bailed with taxpayers money in the USA which they used to create profits after being part of the reason for the financial meltdown.
And as for the new head of Bar Association that they TROTTED out with her mouth FILLED WITH LIES….she knows she is lying, but is that stopping her, oh hell no, she CONTINUES to lie anyway…insulting our intelligence.
Robert…she should have gotten 10 years tops, but the judge might have been following sentencing guidelines…fear not, that is NOT VONDA’S ONLY VICTIM…others are coming out….but the POLICE will have to do their jobs and bring charges…which to date…they are ACCUSED of not doing…although NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS OF THEFT OF CLIENT’S FUNDS HAVE BEEN MADE…over YEARS.
and victims of lawyers outright wickedness with the baks and their lawyer employees in COLLUSION…. as in the above case remains unresolved.
I never agreed with the bail of the banks following the financial meltdown. Under a true capitalist system, market forces should have been allowed to work.. There was an economic professor from the USA interviewed on the BBC, who was of the opinion at the time that the big banks shouldn’t be given any aid. As he said other banks would come forward and save the day and actually do what banks were set up to do. Instead, what happened was that the same banks ‘personnel that instituted the crisis ,were called upon to solve the problems. All these so-called problem solvers did was to protect the established status quo, who by rights should have lost ever thing you would have gotten a few suicided (people jumping off buildings) but there would have been a new set of players on the stage and new ideas. Instead the status quo was saved ( influence peddling with the politicians in the bankers’ hip pocket) and the tax payers left holding the debacle. Not one gambling ( that is what they were doing ,getting paid huge sums for doing so)banker was jailed ( only in Iceland were they jailed)..
Thanks, wanted to emphasise we are dealing with a problem of deep and global proportion. In other words it is not a Barbados problem. A classic case is the de-risking and problems indigenous financial are having to support the business being discussed on the blog above. It is an interconnected and interdependent world we live. How we navigate makes it a strategic approach of inches.
“When these folks encounter an individual, who reacts with extreme prejudice towards them and the institutions they represent,it will all change. ”
Oh they will THREATEN TO SUE…holding defensive positions even while KNOWING that they should ALL be in PRISON….for their multiple CRIMES against the populi..
But…the TOOLS are now available to deal with these LAWSUITED THIEVES AND CRIMINALS….posing as professionals and leaders….
Correction “all these so-called should read All that these so-called bankers did..
“Barbadians are so passive that they do not fight for meaningful things. They ,however fight over trivia like a song at Crop Over and other mundane things. ”
Many on the blog have for YEARS displayed that level of idiocy…although they themselves are MOST LIKELY to be the VICTIMS of the corrupt in a corrupt system…..AND THEY ACTUALLY TRY TO FIGHT DOWN those who are GENUINELY fighting this and trying to wrestle it to the ground…..where it belongs.
Don’t know what it will take for them to learn…that thphe PRACTITIONERS of this EVIL…must be dismantled….STRIPPED of their high and mighty small island positions of TERRORIZING and STEALING FROM the unaware and vulnerable….using the ANTIQUATED laws and system that they continue AMENDING….to keep in play.
@ Robert Lucas
You do not have to be an economics professor to know that the notion of too big to fail is flawed. If it is too big to fail, then it is too big. Let the markets decide.
But, of course, most big businesses, such as banks and insurance companies, like the idea of a free market until it comes to be subsidising by government ie taxpayers. Just look at our zombie hotels.
Thanks, wanted to emphasise we are dealing with a problem of deep and global proportion. In other words it is not a Barbados problem. A classic case is the de-risking and problems indigenous financial are having to support the business being discussed on the blog above. It is an interconnected and interdependent world we live. How we navigate makes it a strategic approach of inches.(Quote)
What is this gobbledegook in plain English?
If you do not understand you need to engage in some critical self assessment LOL.
@David. So where are the baliffs to come in and seize the bank assets? Just chain up the flagship office in Bridgetown and see how fast they react. This same action was done to a bank in Nigeria after they failed to honor a court judgement. We are too freaking passive! and that’s why everybody takes advantage of us. No wonder, although it is alleged, that Billie Miller made the stupid statement that Barbadians were the best slaves.
Such draconian responses are not in our playbook. Can you see any lawyer in Barbados supporting such a move against big bank?
Can you post a link to that Nigeria reference?
@David . Forgive me, because of the old device I am logged on to, it is not going through. However, just do a youtube or google search on GTBank and Innosen Motors court judgement in Nigeria.
Here it i, thanks:
it is alleged, that Billie Miller made the stupid statement that Barbadians were the best slaves
Can someone point the readers to a reliable source? Else this is fake news.
why don’t ya ask Billie the Goat…it was in the NationGovernmentpimpfakenewspaper…before 2008….when she was in UK…saw too many white people and got DIZZY with her house negro title as she is KNOWN TO DO…….her idiocy came complete with a photo..
“No wonder, although it is alleged, that Billie Miller made the stupid statement that Barbadians were the best slaves.”
no alledged…it was in the newspaper…BIG AS DAY…ya have stupid, wicked house negros with titles…they have no sense of SELF…and never will…not that cabal from those two blighted governments…their wickedness and stupidity…STRETCHES BACK DECADES…
Mr Blogmaster, why you do not seek to keep commenters on the topic? The blog is about FIrst Caribbean International Bank not paying and blatantly ignoring an order of the court. What is the position of the government on matters such as these when persons or a financial institution shows gross disrespect for our judicial process? Now, I know that you will defend your beloved. After all, you think that she is doing some great things and perhaps she is. I mean the IMF happy, while many bajans sad. Targets met, burdens being shared, and Mottley resolving issues that none of her ministers know how to handle. I want to put something out to you for your input and analysis. You see dah dey new law that gine make bajans pay penalties for not keeping their surroundings and properties clean, how did Mia and she team get that on the statute books so fast but to Fastrack FOI, Defamation Laws, Anticorruption Laws, More Power to the Auditor General, and new laws to govern the PAC so its bite is much harder than its bark, we are getting a type of Stuart-Dolittle ? Also, you think if any bajan refuse to pay the fine for not keeping their properties clean and ignore any court orders after the fact, you think they will get into trouble? I mean they can cite the situations were several high flyers and flyers that flying high ignore court orders and not a thing ain’t happen to them, etc etc. What you think Mr Blogmasters?
You read about the case in Nigeria? Something to consider? It would crested unwanted noise for FCIB. It would be picked up by international newsfeeds.
Good morning David! Yes, I listened to the video concerning the case in Nigeria. Would need some directions as to how to take my next step. Would welcome any wise suggestions from the viewers on this blog. Thanks.
A good place to start is to instruct your lawyer you want to enforce the court order. A good model to study is the Barrack Building transaction when the plaintiff in that matter executed a similar approach that forced the government to the table. Invite media and have someone record it to ensure maximum publicity.
“(PRESS RELEASE) – The Eastern Caribbean Central Bank (ECCB), in consultation with the ECCB Monetary Council, has approved the application for the transfer of the assets and liabilities of the Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS) to the Republic Financial Holding Limited (RFHL) in Anguilla, the Commonwealth of Dominica, Grenada, St Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia and St Vincent and the Grenadines, pursuant to Section 43 of the Banking Act.
Discussions on the future of Scotiabank’s operations in Antigua and Barbuda are ongoing.”
banks have to be watched at all times..
How is em that Justin can get advice but little old me is ignored by you? I mean, David, I know that I have been pelting stones at your head hoping to cut or bust up one of the two, three, four or five heads operating on BU now as the share or stakeholders. It is deliberate on my part where you are concerned because you are now placed in the category of a stinking political pimp and pooch licker. You know how the SSS does get on with persons who pledge such shite loyalty to parties who have been doing shite for a long time and then come loyalist, like you, who are willing to overlook present and past buppery because you obtain favour. Boggles the mind how everything gets condone, others are condemned, and when certain people speak em is all of a sudden the gospel of John 3:16. At some stage, DAVIDS, you will ban the SSS. You know why? The SSS will not ease up on your four faces hypocritical selves. I do not mind being ban, my father even stops speaking to me for a years after I lambasted his pimp connection allegiance to an obvious stinking destructive DLP party: Mind you, DAVIDS, I supported them too, but no more, not ever again until everyone of them from the last are past So em is normal for me to be hated. You gine answer any of my posted questions or you gine continue to ignore me? You bettas be prepared for the onslaught, I got me nuff time now to blog again, and then in a few, me gone for a long time.
I’ve worked in several countries – and my own personal view is that Barbadians need more confidence in dealing with foreign owned companies operating in Barbados.
It is a privilege for those companies to be allowed to operate in this country and this needs to be pointed out constantly and directly. The balance of power in the relationship between host country and the foreign owned corporation should be with the host country. In Barbados it often seems that foreign owned corporations have little respect for the country or the people but hold all the power.
Canadian banks (and particularly CIBC) in my experience are the worst culprits in the arrogance in which they operate throughout the Caribbean. They have no divine right to be here and executives are parachuted in from Toronto with little cultural knowledge of the country.
The Barbados government should at a minimum insist that FCIB is headed up by local nationals (through real succession planning) – and further that those local nationals in charge not be bullied by a Canadian dominated board. In other countries across the world it would be unheard of for companies not to be headed by a local national. And local nationals would never tolerated being bullied by a foreign board.
Stand up for yourselves – Barbados.
Will he resign ?
Even though what Trudeau did was idiotic and probably racist I have still “instructed” all of my kin in the great white north to vote for Trudeau. I believe that a lot of the outrage is false, coming for conservatives who want “new Canadians” to vote conservative, but it is doubtful that the conservatives have the interest of the “new Canadians” at heart.
A young friend of mine just had her student assistance cut by $2,000 CDN by the Ford government (Ford the conservative Ontario Premier)
Bust DeLisle Worrell used to sing the praises of the Canadian banks, that is why they got away with murder.
@HenrySeptember 14, 2019 6:41 PM “Canadian banks (and particularly CIBC) in my experience are the worst culprits in the arrogance in which they operate throughout the Caribbean. ”
I bet that you won’t be surprised to hear that the mocking name for them on the street is worse caribbean?
@ SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife September 21, 2019 2:59 PM
“Even though what Trudeau did was idiotic and probably racist I have still “instructed” all of my kin in the great white north to vote for Trudeau.”
How can following an old ‘black-minstrel’ tradition of ‘theatre’ performance be racist? The man has not been ‘outed’ as being a former member of any KKK-type organization.
So what would you call black people who try everyday to ‘ape’ white people by bleaching their skins, wearing false long hair of different colours and putting on bright-red lipstick to their already enhanced lips?
Whites make a mockery of you guys who try to look like them and you naïve blacks can’t even see the parody on stage.
Here you have a ‘race’ of people prepared to shell out thousands in dosh individually to get a suntan while worshipping the Master while you ‘blackened’ fools try to be ‘white’ by refusing to ignore the origin of your skin colour.
@MillerSeptember 21, 2019 3:26 PM “So what would you call black people who try everyday to ‘ape’ white people by bleaching their skins, wearing false long hair of different colours and putting on bright-red lipstick to their already enhanced lips?”
I would call that idiotic too.
People of all colors, all politics, all genders, from time to time engage in idiotic behaviour.