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  • Barbados is attempting to set a NEW ANNUAL RECORD for violent deaths, just watch politicians turn this statistic around to their advantage.

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  • POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT,GUNS,DRUGS,GANGS.

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  • Hants,

    in our time there was poverty, unemployment and to a lesser extent drugs but not much of this type of crime. so what has changed? add gangs and guns and greed and it becomes toxic

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  • @Greene

    The factors affecting are ore complex maybe?

    The breakdown of the home with the change from village.

    The modern day political chinnanagins?

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  • they are indeed complex and could even involve “political chinnanagins”.

    i do believe we must do some real research into some of the factors for this however instead of speculating.

    for instance those reading for sociology/ criminology type degrees at UWI or BCCC could be allowed to interview persons incarcerated or even arrested for anti social behaviour and see what they say. equally school children can be interviewed also.

    that way we would have some knowledge based on research to help us plan

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  • @Greene

    The research exist.

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  • That’s “shenanigans”, David. Not “chinnanigins”. LOL

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  • really…interesting. my fault that i havent seen anything published. where can i find?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 10:13 AM

    How about education without values?

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  • David is right a panel should be assembled from the politicians, researchers , criminologists etc and see if there is any way possible to make it trumps fault

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  • @Donna

    We makeup words on BU all the time knowingly or not!

    #😀

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Greene

    The dailies have published from time to time reports of research work done in the Research unit of the RBPF.
    Then many past and present members of the RBPF who did masters degrees in Criminology would have presented papers on criminology in Barbados.

    I think we need to look for the incentives driving ordinary citizens to express their anger so finally for the victim.

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  • A hungry man is an angry man.

    The devil finds work for idle hands to do.

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  • @Vincent

    Many commentators have voiced disappointment about the authorities not implementing many of the recommendations listed in the law review commission report?

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  • I agree with hants let them eat stake

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 10 : 44 AM.

    Coining new words is a sign of intellectual maturity. Maybe BU is at a higher level of intellectualism than Hal , GP and you, yourself, fail to admit. Somehow I think that it is aided by the precursive algorithm coded by some one who does not understand the diversity of the English language or the limitations of machine learning.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @David February 23, 2019 10:13 AM “The breakdown of the home with the change from village.”

    We keep quoting, who is it? Hillary Clinton maybe?

    ’bout “it takes a village”

    Wait dere for the village to raise your children.

    It is a nonsense statement. The village NEVER raised anybody’s children.

    Committed parents raise children. Parents committed to each other, AND to their children.

    Foolish people waiting pun a village to do their parenting hard work for them, and look where it has got us.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT,GUNS,DRUGS,GANGS, gangs and guns and greed, The breakdown of the home, political chinnanagins, anti social behaviour, education without values, hunger.

    Yes. All of these.

    But also the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about..

    Father absence.

    Some of our men ejaculate and beget children with as little though as they do when peeing beside the road.

    But ejaculate, especially ejaculate through which a child is conceived is NOT pee. The child conceived will not wash away and disappear in the next rainfall.

    The things I have heard in my life:

    “I breed she.”

    “She gone and get sheself pregnant.”

    “As soon as I stan’ up beside a woman she does breed.”

    “My brothers have boys, why you always giving me girl children.”

    “How de baby?” When the “child” was 25. The father had refused to see his child since its birth.

    “Them triplets can’t be mine. Nobody in my family got triplets.”

    “I ain’ want na twins.” When the twins were already six months old.

    “I got three set of twins. I don’t know how that happen”.

    “My father never noticed me.” At the time “dad’ was the head of a tertiary institution.

    “I got pockets of children, here and there.”

    I say that too many of our men are sick, neglectful, disgusting, good for nothing bastards, and this includes men who have never finished elementary school, and men with master’s degrees and higher.

    Too many FATHERS have neglected their children, and we are all reaping the sour violent fruit of that neglect.

    Go ahead.

    Cuss me.

    But please note that I have never killed a fella yet.

    Not even a zygote.

    Go ahead you idiots.

    Wait pun de village to raise your children for you.

    Idiots.

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  • @Simple Simon

    Sometimes you need to count to ten before pressing send.

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  • @ Simple Simon,

    I remember you, sometime ago, singing the praises of the CCJ when it endorsed cohabitation. About 70 per cent of children born in Barbados are born out of wedlock. The notion of a common law partner is immoral and only legal in Barbados. GET MARRIED. We must condemn so-called outside families. This is the cancer in our society.
    The children of divorced parents are not like those of promiscuous parents.

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  • SS are you saying children brought up by women alone turn out to be the most violent, I am not disagreeing men can be rotten bastards but if they are not around as bad role models you would think the kids would turn out better.

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  • Secure our borders. Guns does not have wings
    Our borders are our first port of entry
    The playing of games in the political arena needs to stop
    So i raised my child in a healthy enviroment but child can still buy or get acess to a gun
    Question how did the guns get into the country
    The guards at the hen house is not doing there job.
    Lets put blame where it should start beginning at the top
    Govt feet should be held to the fire to find and pursue every avenue possible to ensure the safety of its people
    Enough of the political games and excuses

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Sadly, Simple Simon’s views are all to common place amongst some members of the sisterhood. Their message is all too simple and paints a world where black male sperm donors are feckless whilst their female sperm recipients are victims and beyond rapprochement.

    The blame should lie equally with both parties.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    The spike in the murder rate in Barbados should not surprise us. The Caribbean region homicide rates are shocking and will continue to grow exponentially with the expansion of migration throughout the Caribbean. Barbados has a homicide rate of 10.91. It is seen as being an attractive country amongst those Caribbean islands where crime is rampant. Therefore the majority of our Caribbean migrants are coming from Jamaica, which has a homicide rate of 47.01 and Guyana which has a homicide rate of 18.37. It does not take a genius to work out where this is heading. Yet we are told by the elite that Caricom and the free movement of her citizens is a good thing.

    By the way Barbados homicide rate is double that of the USA (5.35) and the same as Russia (10.82) where gun ownership is much higher than it is in Barbados.

    What about the continent of Africa where poverty is endemic? Well Nigeria has a homicide rate of 9.85, Kenya 4.87 and Somalia 4.31.

    The rates are per 100,000 of the population. Please check the link below and the year of the survey as it varies from country to country.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

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  • We talk about rising murder rate. We expect that by a law or the mouthings from a politician the rate will decline. We have been receiving deportees from the USA and other places for many years. We have seen the seeds of gangs in our communities and we ignore, we allow a culture of we (people) against them (law) to flourish. Under both governments we have seen the PSV sub culture take deep root. On an on we can go but it suits some of us to politicise a matter that is fuelled by a complex set issues.

    Clearly the government is not blameless as a key stakeholder in the process but…

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  • Was it a trend or just an outlier.
    It is not my intention to make light of the death of anyone. But Bajans jumped on the number of murders in January and set off helter-skelter shouting that “the sky is falling, the sky is falling”.

    The month of February appears to be rather mild. but we do not see follow-up articles commending the on the ‘police’ putting the brakes on the increase of gun violence.

    It has always befuddled me, on how people expect police to stop some crimes before they occur, but as the police usually draw the ire of citizens when crime increases , we should give them credit when the trajectory changes for the better.

    Was it a trend or just an outlier?
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    I find the stabbing of two females in St, Lucy to be rather disturbing and hope they are not related for that could signal the presence of a ‘repeat offender’.

    Does that fact that two of the stabbed females were over 65 tells us anything?

    It would probably be good if the information was displayed on a map so that the average Bajan could see if these stabbings/shootings were stacked one on the other (in a very small area).

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing.

    You can see the severe problems that we face in Barbados when we use the term to describe the fall in the death rate in February as being “rather mild”.

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  • @TLSN

    The blogmaster refers to is as the numb index. It is worrying.

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  • RE
    @Donna
    We makeup words on BU all the time knowingly or not!
    NO. WE OFTEN MISSPELL WORDS

    RE Coining new words is a sign of intellectual maturity.
    NO. MISSPELLING WORDS IS NOT A SIGN OF INTELLECT. ONE IS EITHER IGNORANT, IN A HURRY IN TYPING OR CARELESS OR JUST DYSLEXIC LIKE DOMPEY.

    RE Maybe BU is at a higher level of intellectualism than Hal , GP and you, yourself, fail to admit

    NO BU IS A SIMPLE BAJAN TYPE RUM SHOP PLATFORM WHERE FOLK FEEL FREE TO AIR THEIR VIEWS. THEY OFTEN DO SO WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT THE TOPIC UNDER DISCUSSION.

    INSTEAD OF THINKING, ASKING REASONABLE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT ADVANCE THE DISCUSSION, PERSONS SHOOT –OR RATHER SHIT-FROM THE HIP!

    INSTEAD OF LISTENING AND SEEKING TO LEARN MANY JUST TALK BULL SHIT……THAT IS A CLEAR SIGN OF NOT BEING INTELLECTUAL AT ALL! TO SOUND OFF SERIOUSLY ON STUFF THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IS INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY!

    DO YOU EVER HEAR CUMBERBATCH SOUNDING OFF ON MEDICINE? OR GP SEEKING TO TEACH CUMBERBATCH LAW?
    WHICH OF WUNNA CAN ENGAGE LUCAS IN HIS AREA OF EXPERTISE.

    BUT YOU HAVE AN IDIOT LIKE DPD TRYING TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU MAY HAVE AN EMERGENCY POST MORTEM, AND SEEKING TO CONTRADICT ME WITH RESPECT TO CERVICAL INJURIES!

    THERE WAS ALSO BU’S PRIME BRASS BOWL WHO SOUGHT TO ENGAGE ME ON BIOCHEMISTRY, AND BIBLE! HILARIOUS!

    RE Somehow I think that it is aided by the precursive algorithm coded by some one who does not understand the diversity of the English language or the limitations of machine learning.

    THIS SENTENCE IS A LOAD OF BULL SHIT. SOUNDS GOOD AND INTELLECTUAL BUT IT IS BULLSHIT NEVERTHELESS. SOUNDS LIKE A DRUNKEN MAN IN A RUM SHOP TALKING SHITE!

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  • IT IS SAD THAT IN OUR BELOVED BIM THAT FOLK INCREASINGLY THINK THAT KILLING ANOTHER IS THE SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM.

    IT WAS NOT ALWAYS SO.

    MANY HERE HAVE REJECTED RELIGION AND THE BIBLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS GENERAL DECISION BY MANY IN THE POPULACE HAS LED TO, OR HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE CURRENT SITUATION.

    IT SEEMS THAT IN DAYS OF YESTERYEAR MOST OF WERE INFLUENCED BY BIBLE TEACHING RECEIVED IN SCHOOL, THE HOME OR THE NEARBY CHURCH, OF WHAT EVER DENOMINATION.

    IN ADDITION, THERE WAS LESS GREED, AND MORE COMMUNITY SPIRIT AND SHARING OF THE LITTLE THAT FOLK IN THE VILLAGE OR GAP HAD.

    AFTER ACQUIRING OUR “EDUCATION” AND BETTER JOBS WE OPTED TO DEPART FROM A CULTURE THAT WORKED, AND RAN TO THE HEIGHTS AND TERRACES. WE SEWED TO THE WIND……NOW WE ARE REAPING THE WHIRLWIND.

    WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THE WORDS OF 2 TIMOTHY 3 RINGS TRUE.
    THESE WORDS ARE SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED

    This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

    3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

    4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

    7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

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  • The notion of a common law partner is immoral and only legal in Barbados. GET MARRIED. We must condemn so-called outside families. This is the cancer in our society.
    The children of divorced parents are not like those of promiscuous parents.

    @ hal, you should not make these blanket assertions without having done the research necessary. Even in the beloved Singapore-

    Government benefits that support the growth and development of children are given to all Singaporean children, regardless of their legitimacy status. All Singaporean children have access to social assistance, education and healthcare subsidies, as well as infant care and child care subsidies. Children of unwed parents born from 1 September 2016 are also now eligible for Child Development Account (CDA) benefits. This further supports unwed parents’ efforts to care for their child, and enhance the child outcomes.

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  • “Rather mild” may be an unfortunate choice of words.
    I googled and could not find any murders in February.
    I could have committed myself and said “none” but I was afraid that I may be wrong and bring out the numbers police.
    But my point remains…. Was January an extreme month…
    Did police action results in changes.
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    Let me add that the local press does not get much credit but it is improving in reporting crimes of Barbados.
    There were years you could come here and google until the cows come home and find it difficult to get a good count of the number of murders in Barbados. At least, for the month of January, the numbers were available. Let’s hope that the transparency continues.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    @ David,

    We are comfortable with our homicide rates as they are a lot lower then Jamaica, Trinidad, Guyana and the majority of the rest of our neighbours. It makes us feel proud that we better than them! We have become sadly complacent with everything in Barbados. What does this say about us?

    @ TheOGazerts,

    I understand. Seldom when we post things on this site we lack precision in our writing style which can be misinterpreted.The only one who is 100% precise is Jeff Cumberbatch. As a journalist, a legal professional and a lecturer he has to be.

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  • @ Hal Austin:

    “The notion of a common law partner is immoral and only legal in Barbados”.

    In Ontario it is recognized if the couple lived together for 3 years, or if they lived together for one year and have a child. If they separate, what they brought to the relaltionship is theirs out right and what was accumulated is split. So, if you move into a partner’s house you cant claim half. There are no illegitimate children in Ontario.

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  • The show being hosted by Sanka Price today is about children not finishing high school for whatever reason I.e. expulsion, delinquent homes etc involving themselves in crime.

    This is a big issue!

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  • @Greene

    Have a listen to Feb 24, 2019 podcast. The issue of crime was discussed with SMEs.

    http://vob929.com/downtobrasstacks/

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin February 24, 2019 6:35 AM “The notion of a common law partner is immoral and only legal in Barbados. ”

    As Jeff pointed out to you , you are incorrect.

    @Hal Austin February 24, 2019 6:35 AM “GET MARRIED. We must condemn so-called outside families. This is the cancer in our society.”

    I was not talking at all about outside families, that is the children born to a married man who is still living in the same house as his wife, but who has a child or children with another woman or women, and that woman or those women are aware that he is married.

    In many of the cases I quoted above the couples did indeed GET MARRIED, and after the marriage, the husband/father nevertheless abandoned his wife and the children of his marriage.

    Surely you do understand that marriage does not guarantee that a man will be a good father [or a woman a good mother.]

    And in some of the cases I quoted above some of the men were indeed married, but the second or subsequent partner were completely unaware that the man was married, such as far example when a married man travels overseas to university, and while there starts a relationship and begets a child. Then abandons that second woman and his child. Such is a case I know of where a married Anglican priest begat a child while he was at university in another island, and when the child was 15 months he disappeared back to Barbados, and into the bosom of the Anglican church, where he still “ministers” and never saw the child again. The child grew up to be so traumatised by this abandonment that the now middle aged “child” is a professed atheist, because this is what my father the priest dd to me.

    For further information on male priests behaving badly see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-47366113
    George Pell: Cardinal found guilty of sexual offences in Australia

    Do you really believe that he is the only bad behaved pastor/priest in the world?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    I may be a simpleton to believe that optimally a child does best with two loving parents, sharing the same house with their child.

    I may be wrong to believe that a child is harmed by the prolonged absence of either parent.

    But I doubt very much that I am wrong.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    And Hal you know very well that in the CCJ case referenced the court was ruling on a case of a DEAD childless man who had long been divorced long before his death, and who had subsequently entered into a relationship with another woman, and had lived with her for many years.. The court’s ruling had NOTHING to do with children. It had nothing to do with the man’s long divorced exwife. The man’s ADULT siblings had contested the right of his partner to a share of his estate.

    The CCJ ruled against the dead man’s siblings.

    The CCJ was right.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @David February 24, 2019 6:25 AM “Simple Simon. Sometimes you need to count to ten before pressing send.”

    Nah David.

    Sometimes one needs to talk about the big-able elephant standing in the center of the room.

    Pretending the elephant is not there, tiptoeing around the elephant, is not going to solve anything.

    In Barbados father absence is the BIG, BIG elephant standing right there right in the middle of the room.

    We don’t want to talk about it because it makes us feel real, real uncomfortable.

    These absent fathers are not all young unemployed or under employed men, some are old men with children, and now grandchildren whom they have never noticed. Some of them are exceedingly well educated men (even if by rote, lol), some earn big, big salaries, some are well respected in the community, some have never married anybody, and there is no just cause or impediment why they could not have married the mother of their child/children. Some are serial marriers, and serial abandoners.

    Some are in academia.

    Some are in the church.

    Some have sat in Cabinet.

    Some no doubt are among those 31 unclaimed bodies at the QEH. Unclaimed for for up to a year, as reported in the most recent Sunday Sun. I would bet anything that the majority of those 31 bodies are male.

    None of those bodies are my grandfather, my father, my brother, my husband, my son, my grandson.

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  • @ Simple,

    Government benefits that support the growth and development of children are given to all Singaporean children, regardless of their legitimacy status. All Singaporean children have access to social assistance, education and healthcare subsidies, as well as infant care and child care subsidies. Children of unwed parents born from 1 September 2016 are also now eligible for Child Development Account (CDA) benefits. This further supports unwed parents’ efforts to care for their child, and enhance the child outcomes.(Quote)

    Jeff did not prove anything. Jeff referenced the Singapore position, but that is regarding the child of an unmarried couple. (A divorce is not the same as an unmarried couple).
    Assets accumulated by an unmarred couple during the cohabitation is righty divided fairly if the couple separate or one sadly dies in most jurisdictions; but all the assets of a marred partner becomes the property of the surviving partner under English common law. This is not the same.(Unless it is a CCJ judgement).
    As to unmarried couples, the reality is that children do better when brought up in a two-parent household, or in a household with a step parent. This is universally acknowledged. The blame is not just so-called absent fathers, promiscuous mothers are equally to blame. It takes two to make a child.
    What we want to know is the social backgrounds of those involved in criminality, their home circumstances, level of education, job status, etc..
    Look at the breakdown of the family, not just with some fathers not having access to their children, but I have seen it mentioned on BU that some parents refuse to attend parent/teachers meetings to discuss their children’s performance at school. Or look at the 30 unburied bodies in the hospital morgue because uncaring relatives refuse to claim the bodies. That is barbarism.
    As for the church, the society has lost its moral mooring and the church is left like a rabbit trapped in oncoming lights. We have had another blogger on BU, only this week, referencing walking in Barbados with their partners and grown up waifs and strays whistling at them.
    Or during the general election campaign that buffoon Kerrie Symmonds talking on a public platform of people horning rivals. How despicable. Only in Barbados would such a person be elevated to being a minister.
    To return to the substantive issue: there is nothing called a common law marriage; get married or suffer the consequences (or take your case to the CCJ).

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin February 26, 20195:15 AM “…children do better when brought up in a two-parent household.”
    TRUE.

    @Hal Austin February 26, 20195:15 AM “…or in a household with a step parent.
    NOT TRUE

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin February 26, 2019 5:15 AM “…there is nothing called a common law marriage; get married or suffer the consequences (or take your case to the CCJ).”

    Under Barbados law, there is something called “a union other than marriage.”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin February 26, 2019 5:15 AM “all the assets of a marr[i]ed partner becomes the property of the surviving partner under English common law. ”

    Be that as it may. But it seems patently unfair to me that if a married man dies, and he of his own free will had begat children by a woman other than his wife, that his wife should inherit all of his property, and that his minor children begotten out of his own loins, of his own free will receive nothing.

    But if you think that that is just to the man’s minor children who did not ask to be born, who had no say in their own conception…

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    It may surprise you to know that i am as much a believer/supporter of FAITHFUL lifelong marriage as you are.

    But whatever a parent’s fault, the state should use its power to ensure that the children are supported.

    But sadly no state in the world is so powerful that it can command love.

    And some of our young people are suffering from the lack of money, true, but moreso from the lack of love.

    I am a big believer that love is a big deal, that love is redemptive, that love is transformative.

    Love God. Love your neighbour. What is so hard about that? Even if your neighbour is the child of your own body?

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  • Front page of today’s Nation newspaper .

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  • Hal
    Are you equating being unmarried with children as promiscuity?
    Don’t we have promiscuity in marriages?
    One of the greatest pieces of legislation passed in our country was that which recognized ALl children as legitimate.
    Another piece was that which said if you live in a house , in a common law relationship for more than five years, she was to have the same privileges, as a wife, if the union collapsed.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin February 26, 2019 5:15 AM “…not just with some fathers not having access to their children.”

    But we were not talking at all about those few father’s who do not have access to their children. We are talking about fathers who have perfectly good access to their children, but who CHOOSE not to acknowledge their children, not to look out for them, not to socialise with them, not to take them to church or to visit their grandparents. Fathers who CHOOSE to have little or nothing to do with their children.

    Fathers who effectively ABANDON their own biological children, the fruit of their loins.

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  • The murder scourge has found it’s way into February also !

    Time for Darwin Dottin to GO !

    February 27 2019 ….alone ….2 murders recorded !

    Dottin is the cause !

    Barbados deserves better.

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  • @ William,
    No. I am sure you have experienced this too, of people who want children with all their partners/lovers: men with four children from four different women, and women with four children from four different men. That, I suggest, is not just carelessness, it is promiscuity.
    @William, I have suggested previously, and repeat, that when mothers go to register the births of their children if they refuse to name the fathers then they cannot claim support for that child. If they name fathers and the fathers deny responsibility, then the courts could order DNA tests, and if positive, order the fathers to support their children. No child should be registered without two parents.
    Poverty does not equate with amorality.

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