The Rise And Fall of Brexit

Prime Minister Theresa May suffered an embarrassing defeat to her BREXIT package in parliament yesterday and will likely face a no Confidence motion later today. If she survives the no confidence motion she will have 70 days before the default clause kicks in to boot the UK from the EU.

What are her options? There is the obvious which is to ask for a delay. Another referendum seems silly. What is ominous for the Tories is that the business sector has separated itself from government’s position.

Across the globe there is a common trend; chaos – the inability of the political class to form partnerships, build coalitions to practice conflict resolutions to arrive at compromise positions.

David, blogmaster


Submitted by Pachamama

It would require a Water Diviner, a top Senegalese Marabout, an Obeah woman from Benin and a Bajan Bushman, acting in unison, for Theresa Mary May to avoid her fate after the Brexit Deal is voted-down, on Tuesday, in the House of ‘Commons’.

We witnessed firsthand, on June 23, 2016, the British peoples in their majority voting to leave the European Union (EU) – approximately 52% to 48%. The referendum, promised by David Cameron, was a response to the overarching and historic dictatorial tendencies emanating from Brussels but also represented a reassertion of Whiteness and innate neo-fascist tendencies. It has now set a series of processes in place the enormity of which are having the unforeseen consequences few could have imagined.

And, we must admit, that the politics are very difficult on all sides. The main actors are the European Union (EU), the Conservative Party and their coalition partner, (the DUP) and the main opposition Labour Party.

May is facing all manner of rebellion within her ranks. The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) a far-right, terrorist fringe has called for her resignation. In addition, she faces nay-votes from up to 100 of her own conservative colleagues. These include a number of pretenders to the primeministership – Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson, el al.

Not even the last-minute suggestion of a second referendum as part of her proposals to parliament is likely to be sufficient to galvanize enough support from a difficult coalition of conservatives, the DUP, the Blairist labour MPs, and others, to save May’s Brexit Deal. These suggest a most likely ‘Brexit without a deal’, given the calendar and assuming all other political forces ‘remain’ equal, no pun intended.

The man who could be British prime minister by Christmas, Jeremy Corbyn, also has long-running discord within the ranks of the Labour Party with Tony Blair loyalists and ‘EU remainers’ like Chuka Umunna continuing to provide Corbyn with all manner of contrived hurdles include the accusation that Corbyn was an anti-Semite. What a canard!

The EU for its part faces growing geopolitical and internal crises which together may suggest its beginning of the end. However, its outward determination presents a stalwartness aimed at keeping the troops (other EU countries) in line by shooting a general, the UK, in a public place. They, the EU, are unyielding. Suggesting that no other Brexit deal than that already negotiated with Theresa May will be possible after a no-vote in the ‘Commons’, as a further constraint to popular perceptions about sovereignty.

Of course, the sub-plots are the issues relating to Scotland, the re-unification of Ireland, the rekindling of relationships with former colonial possessions, international trading arrangements with major countries etc. All of these are casting uncertainty about the future for both ‘little’ and ‘big’ England. Even in May’s Brexit Deal issues pertaining to the Customs Union, borders, nationality and others ‘remain’ unclear.

We present three (3) possible scenarios that are likely to end this crisis in the short term, though politics pretends to be about making the impossible, possible, some say. These are all predicated on the assumption that Theresa May will be defeated in the House of ‘Commons’ tomorrow.

First, that a general election will be called and that Labour will win but that Corbyn would continue to find Brexiting a difficult proposition. This explains his well-known tactic of neither fully supporting nor fully opposing Brexit in principle.

Second, that the coalition led by May will force her resignation and that one of the pretenders mentioned earlier will assume its leadership. In these circumstances, we see no overt determination to leave the EU if staying remains slightest possibility. This will be a win for Brussels.

Third, and this is the most unlikely scenario, that a radical transplantation occurs in British politics. With this, we ‘may’ see Blairist forces within Labour join with EU ‘remainers’ in the Conservative Party and others to form a new ruling bloc.

As the political undertakers plane the wood for May’s coffin the leading pallbearers, on all sides, are marshalling their forces to be the first at body. Still, it remains uncertain who will get to control the carcass, and what it will mean to be British for the peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic.

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  • David

    Thanks for featuring this issue. It remains unfathomable for us how the problems surrounding are not pregnant with signposts for other regions.

    People who still, even to this day, would claim that their bloodlines are within the tribes of those in the British isles. No such claims to Africa, of course.

    Yet those same miscreants insist on the erection of some fictitious notions of a nonexistent ‘Caribbean nation’.

    Maybe Barrow’s edict that Harold Crichlow was an ‘unfinished product’ has relevance to them as well.

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  • @Pacha

    Many cloak the various arguments in heavy parochialism. It is of interest to some the extent to which cultural relativism has jumped national boundaries.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Pacha..believe it o not, it comes with benefits…but….the images and thoughts of what it portends needs to be STEAMLINED…particularly in anticipation….by those who can see…. of windrush 2 and all the criminality lies and mischief attached….

    ….very, very hard to do in those who have been BRAINWASHED…into LOVING their own self inflicted sense of inferiority…for the last 60 years…via the british designed miseducation system…

    think on it…..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Is it not SWEET…to move past the level of the likes of John still living in darkness ….and the continuing threat to African descended people…..that we can ALL…those who are awake…NOW PLAINLY SEE.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    It is very clear that Barbados and the Caribbean as a whole do not need any more bible and shakespearean BRAINWASHED, MENTALLY ENSLAVED, WEAK LEADERS…to lead them..

    ….nor does Barbados need any of Cow and Bizzy’s little black boys and girls leading them either…THEY ARE TOXIC…the worst off the enslaved minds…as we see in one of the online papers today….the attempt to place one of Bizzy’s black boys in the parliament..

    the trick..is FORCING them to SEE…that they have those BENEFITS I talked of earlier…within in them..to avoid what is ahead…

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Beside…if UK had not STOLEN my dual UK citizenship…KARMA WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT ME BACK..

    lol, lol..

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  • A one Caribbean Nation is not a bad idea.. It is feasible. What is required is to avoid the pitfalls other collective groupings have and are encountering.

    Any collective groupings’ mandate should be that of resource management and facilitators for development with integration being the common goal throughout all aspects of each.

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  • Correction
    ….Each.
    should have been Enterprise.

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  • MRs May should fire her political advisers/strategists and particularly her public relations consultants. they have done a very poor job to allow this issue not of her own making to be placed upon her back. Mrs May voted to remain and it was those weasels led by the scalliwag Boris Johnson who campaigned for the break to come up with a plan and not Mrs May.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    And if yall think this is some KINDA joke that ya can REMAIN happily pretending ya are the mentally enslaved pleasing ya racist MASTERS and will not feel the consequences yaselves EVENTUALLY…..think again….CAUSE THERE ARE LITERALLY OVER 60 MILLION OF THOSE DEMONS IN UK.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/16/police-investigate-racist-death-threats-bristol-mayor-marvin-rees

    “One threat sent to mayor Marvin Rees and his deputy Asher Craig through Facebook referred to the Labour MP Jo Cox, who was killed a week before the Brexit referendum in 2016. Another threat was sprayed on the pavement outside Rees’s house late on Friday night. It read: “Marvin must die.”

    Both incidents are being treated as racially aggravated harassment. Avon and Somerset police said a 27-year-old has been arrested and released on bail.”

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  • If May’s new and continuing departures from ‘constitutional norms’ are not troubling we wonder what could be.

    Yesterday’s resounding defeat, traditionally, would have meant her immediate resignation and the calling of general elections.

    We have now had a British government soundly defeated on the centerpiece of policy more than once.

    Those who hold on to Westminster systems should come to wonder the extent to which we remain within the province of western democratic traditions.

    We would want to suggest that May’s actions, over time, are, like Trump el al, more consistent with those likened to another systems so long hated, titularly, by the court jesters of democracy.

    Is this the beginning of the end of White, western rulership? We certainly hope so!

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Those who hold on to Westminster systems should come to wonder the extent to which we remain within the province of western democratic traditions.”

    Are LOSERS…and WILL LOSE AGAIN.

    Listen to this video again..very carefully, he is telling us what is happening….AND WHY..

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  • @ Pacha
    Is this the beginning of the end of White, western rulership? We certainly hope so!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Trust you to see the obvious ….
    ..even if no one else seems able to perceive the clear signs…

    This is the beginning of the long predicted ‘reparations’ of which Bob Marley sang many years ago…
    in “We and Them.”
    …now we know “how they will have to pay for the innocent blood…..”
    (not in any shiite dollars …like Sir Cave was hoping, but in much more expensive currency….

    That May has not resigned speaks VOLUMES about her
    …as does Trump’s actions and character speak about him.

    They both have ZERO personal integrity or shame…
    as would be expected of agents of the dark one….
    It is NOT in their spiritual make-up…. to be ‘so’ principled

    Their roles are to lead the end of the albino-centric dispensation ..
    ….at the hands of even more despotic animals to come.

    The ‘last trump’ now will be the replacement of the US dollar as the
    currency for petro-trade…
    When that happens,….
    Dog dead.

    Grass….

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  • Waru

    See, many do not want to face the reality of the exploitation current in Administrations on the black populations, and like Pacha foresight, there will be a sudden shift and demise.

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  • take a deep breathe…..lol you watch the eu come back with a new deal, if not so what ..the brits were looking for a deal when they found that one. But as BT said you guys cant even fix a 70s bus so what are you doing reading the news and getting all torqued up. The great thing about having nothing is that this doesnt affect you so sit back relax and have a rum.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Was that Ottawa gold…Kush, Lawson..eh!!

    lol

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  • No Waru I hate panic….as baron rothchild said the time to buy is when there is blood in the streets….so when everyone is panicking some people will hold there nerve and come out okay , Give it about a year for the brit money to dry up and land prices will drop and you may be able to get back on the island.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    lol..thanks for the advice…

    but all the talk, ah know ya ain’t going anywhere near UK..ya see the expression on the faces of those there BEASTS..

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  • A few decades ago, the province of Quebec wanted to separate from Canada. Unlike marital divorces, in which society has much experience and precedence, (and still much negotiation/court rulings), country divorces are more rare. Beyond the emotional rhetoric back then, nobody wished to tackle the HOW and WHAT. Nobody involved wished to tackle the big issues, like what happens to the CPP (pension) for Quebecers, and the cost to them of facilities built by Canada. Brexit has followed this type of path. As I watched one parliamentarian after another interviewed, they could say whether they were for/against the “May deal”, but none had an alternate deal they were confident would pass a Commons vote.

    Eight years after Africa’s largest country split, Sudan, they are still negotiating separation. A January 2011 referendum, which was less than clear, resulted in a July split, with minimal agreement between the two sides on terms. Many will say it was an emotional split, caused by almost constant war since independence, and a populace split along tribal and religious lines.

    And even trade deals, focus on the marriage and not any future divorce. Hence, I doubt there can be a negotiated Brexit. You just split, and then negotiate piecemeal as the issues arise. Not ideal, just how these matters tend to play out.

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  • NorthernObserver

    On point.
    The EU need to reevaluate the concerns raised by the Brits and others for a Continuum.

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  • @Nine of nine,

    Plse explain.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Really Ha, Ha…you live in UK and need someone else to explain these things to you…really.

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  • @WW&C
    so how many countries were you a citizen of….four? Or did you just extend your visitors visa LOL

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  • The prime minister survived the no confidence vote and she will make a statement at 6pm local time.

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  • N.O. 4 countries how many planets

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  • Can anybody say what Labour wants?

    Does he want a second referendum?

    Does he want a general election?

    What the hell does he want?

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  • exactly….. same as dems in states its easy to condemn but neither have a viable alternative all they want is power will worry about content later

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  • It is really nice pontificating from 3000 miles informed only by reading the BBC or some failed newspaper website. What we need on BU is someone explaining in simple terms what is going on in the UK.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Or did you just extend your visitors visa LOL”

    I thought was only US required visitors visas..where the hell have you been living…what visa did you need for Canada..outside of a student visa…I don’t think Bajans need a via for Europe, did they not get rid of the Schengden or whatever.

    you will find Caribbean people with multiple citizenships..don’t you have 2…well some have 3…lol

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    All that complicated, manmade crap is what will cause our worldwide citizenship to manifest AGAIN…just like before man in all his ugly decided that he is master over other people and started to TIEF EVERYTHING IN SIGHT.

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  • Hal dont you live in the uk lol but here it is in simple terms …cant trade with states in new agreement, piss off belgium we will trade with whoever we phucking like, we beat the germans so dont dictate to us

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  • @ Lawson,

    You are so perceptive. I will recommend you to May for a job as an adviser.

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  • Hal my work educating Waru isnt finished yet, and also I had to become a citizen of canada to get a job I wanted after living there 25 years an economic refugee as it were

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  • David

    We know not why it’s alright to assume that writers here are 3000 miles away. Sometimes this writer could be 3, 30,300, 3000, 30000 or 300000 miles away.

    The point is that in an internet age neither one is any nearer or further away. In any event, the writer of this original piece did so as a witness of events.

    More to the point since he’s a so-called journalist, as has been said, maybe he could enlighten the blog from the reserves of his substantial simpleton’s knowledge.

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  • have 3…..or more. You ducked the first line of my comment LOL
    Actually I only have one. My Bajan passport expired, they gave me so much trouble to renew, I just gave up. They accept my tax returns and payments without any questions however LOL

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  • @Lawson
    so for 25 years you didn’t vote?

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  • Correct but didn’t miss 25 years came as a boy but my father never became a a citizen and never voted

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  • @ Lawson,

    Some people accumulate citizenships like confetti.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @David January 16, 2019 5:12 PM “Can anybody say what Labour wants? What the hell does he want?”

    To be the British Prime Minister within the EU.

    What else could it be?

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  • @ Simple Simon,

    You are wrong. Corbyn is a leftwing nationalist. Bennites hate the EU as much as the far right. Corbyn wants to be prime minister of Little England.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 5:20 PM “What we need on BU is someone explaining in simple terms what is going on in the UK.”

    Agreed.

    And since you are right on the spot, and have been living in the UK for decades, I nominate you to do the explaining.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 6:04 PM “@ Simple Simon, You are wrong.”

    Ok.

    Since I am 4,000 miles away, and haven’t gone to the U.K for more than a decade…

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  • @ Simple Simon,

    I am a very bad teacher. But sit down, and take your pen out and pay attention. Come to think of it, where are our constitutional experts, our political scientists, our keyboard warriors? May I suggest th UWI holds a public meeting explaining Brexit?
    Remember, Corbyn is more anti EU than the prime minister.

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  • There is nothing for Mrs May to embarrassed about. She was not the architect of Brexit but was against it. Those who should be embarrassed are those political weasels in her party who followed the scalliwag Boris Johnson down a path to nowhere. It is he and his stupid cohorts who should be made to come up with a plan or be guillotined. Mrs May should fire her advisors particularly her public relations consultants for allowing an albatross not of her own making to be a damocles sword upon her back

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    I asked a friend who has lived in the UK for decades, and this is the response “I can’t see an election being called. No Confidence? Yes. Election? No. The people from all sides who voted yesterday want to renegotiate. The EEC said, “no”. This is the problem. The EEC is a hard nut to crack. If there is an election and there is a good majority, the winning party might have a little more leverage, but not much. ”

    This friend voted Brexit in the referendum.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    This opinion is good as of 1 o’clock GMT.

    May have changed since then.

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  • @ Simple Simon,

    Your friend is behind the times. It is now the EU. I hope your friend who voted Brexit is not a black person. There are a lot of nuances: whether we have a general election of not, whoever wins – Labour or Tories – wants out of the EU.
    Th EU is saying no because whatever is agreed must be unanimously agreed by 27 nations. Think about it. Further, to make it easy for the UK will only encourage Span, Italy, and other rogue members. The strategy is to make it as difficult so others will be put off.
    There is also an issue of personalities: we won’t have a general election because May won’t resign. Politics is her life, no children, no pets, a semi-detached husband, Philip – politics has been her life since studying geography at Oxford. Does that remind you of anyone?
    But there is a more important power struggle going on which is not often commented upon.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Charles Skeete January 16, 2019 6:14 PM “There is nothing for Mrs May to embarrassed about. She was not the architect of Brexit but was against it. ”

    We understand that Mrs. May was/is a Remainer.

    Which is why I have long felt that she ought to have resigned, once the referendum result came in and she saw that her people wanted to Brexit, while she wanted to Remain. I can’t imagine leading my people in a direction which I myself did not wish to go. But I have never been “in” politics.

    I am not familiar with British law on referenda, but I am wondering if it would not have been better if a referendum as important as the Brexit one had been done on the basis of a 2/3 majority.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Corbyn wants to be prime minister of Little England.”

    ok..that explains everything..

    NO…sometimes the best laid plans…you can finish the rest

    …..and no wicked deed goes unpunished, no one anticipated it would work out like that, according to the yiddish proverb…man makes plans, the divine laughs…still trying to work out exactly who they stole that proverb.. from…lol

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  • @ Simple Simon,

    The prime minister at the time of the awful Referendum did resign – it was David Cameron.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 6:25 PM “I hope your friend who voted Brexit is not a black person.”

    A Simple Response: Yes a black person. I tried unsuccessfully to dissuade friend from voting Brexit. All I can say we love our friends because we love them, even when we disagree on politics.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 6:25 PM “Politics is her life, no children, no pets, a semi-detached husband, politics has been her life. Does that remind you of anyone?”

    A Simple Response: Yes

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    Yes I know that Cameron resigned.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    But why did May take up the job? She didn’t have to. Was it purely love of politics, or of political power?

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  • Mr Sarge you seem to know more than the great first black president who goes by the name of Clinton and who called Obama’s eight years as bad years in one of his remarks on the campaign trail in support of his ambitious wife

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  • @ Simple Simon,
    She is a politician. They are different to you and I. Only Heaven knows what motivates politicians.

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  • Dr Georgie
    Have you noticed no one ever mentions Mr Obama’s remarks to the Russian Ambassador captured off Mic when he told the Ambassador to hold strain until after the elections when he would have more flexibility and which the Ambassador over handshakes promised to convey to President Putin
    Doesn’t this smack of collusion

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  • @Simple Simon,

    Ignore all the background noise. Go back to the BU blogs at about the time of the Referendum and re-read my posts. Brexit was/is all about racism.
    It was never about the authority of the ECJ in the UK; it was never about Eastern European migrants to the UK; it was always about non-white immigrants to the UK, those people coming across the Mediterranean, a continuation of Enoch Powell’s 1968 Rivers of Blood speech.
    What you need to learn about the Brits, is do not listen to what they say, but find out what they mean. What they say is not always what they mean. Corbyn, a Leftwinger and Gordon Brown, another Leftwinger, would never talk about race in a disparaging way, but they will talk about British jobs for British people. That is the key. Who are British workers?
    Corbyn is a Leftwing nationalist, Nigel Farage is a rightwing nationalist; miss the nuance and you miss the meaning. Remember, the regions are the main Brexiteers, the major cities and regions voted to remain, including London overwhelming, where 40 per cent of the population are non-white. Black people in the UK are urban people.
    That aside, the EU is the biggest and wealthiest market in the world – 500m people. It is where we do most of our business. On the other hand, look at Britain and its relationships with the Commonwealth, even now when it needs all the friends it can get. The answer is simple: the Commonwealth are mainly nigs and wogs.
    As I have said, there is also an important power play going on. Don’t forget May is very popular with ordinary people. They feel she is being treated terribly by Backbench Tories because she is a woman.
    Finally, the power play: the Referendum was an exercise in direct democracy; our parliament is one of representative democracy; The Supreme Court has already been put in its place; and now it is the Executive.
    What we are witnessing is parliament re-asserting its sovereignty. This is democracy at its most powerful. The courts do not rule us, prime ministers and executives do not rule us, popular Swiss-style votes do not rule us; we are ruled by the 650 men and women elected to make decisions in the interest of the nation.
    For those who talk nonsense about the Westminster/Whitehall model, this is it at its best.

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  • media only report what fits the narrative to herd the sheeple …example most drugs are smuggled across border checkpoints, yes it is much smarter to bring drugs over where they are checking for them

    isis bombed restaurant killing 4 americans, isis yes … we dont want you to go, we will be out of work so we will bomb restaurant so you will stay….makes more sense kurds did it for them to stay, somebody close new where they all will be.

    pelosi doesnt want trump to do sotu because of security , hardly its so he cant talk for an hour on the dems

    Same with brexit its all bs on both sides think logically not emotionally and everything looks like swiss cheese.and try and fill in the holes with reason.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 7:03 PM “a Leftwinger and Gordon Brown, another Leftwinger, would never talk about race in a disparaging way, but they will talk about British jobs for British people. That is the key. Who are British workers?”

    At various times 1/3 of my siblings, my aunt, my uncle, a boyfriend, many neighbours, somebody from every house in my village

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    The evil that is racism PERMANENTLY LODGED IN THE MINDS OF THESE BEASTS is at the root of all of this…if people open their eyes, they will NOT be CAUGHT UNPREPARED.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/oxfam-sexual-misconduct-scandal-report-haiti-racism-bullying-colonial-behaviours-a8731831.html

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  • Hal I dont understand your reasoning , if the uk was racist why would they put a golliwog on robertson jam.for years.

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  • Is is fair to say that Corbyn and Labour are not motivated to work with May and the Tories to find a compromise to avoid a no deal given his political aspirations?

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  • @ Lawson,

    Must have been Scottish.

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  • Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    And their children and grandchildren

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  • scottish sarcasm….but the canny scot did vote to stay in the eu

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  • @Lawson,

    As I said, it was a very complex and confusing vote. What put a smile on my face was that the Welsh farmers voted overwhelmingly to leave, and the first thing they did after was to ask the UK government to guaranteed the funds they got from the EU. Talking about chopping of the hand that fed them….I would let them starve.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    ..but when the new age enslavement starts, don’t call me, ah don’t want to hear it, I will. be well. medicated…cause ah crazy and unstable…lol..will even check myself into a mental home for the dramatic effect and theatre…

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  • Same with scots but it is a bargaining tool, pay up or we will split and go with eu. Its all about money and power … just remember when a tree disappears in the forest there is a race to fill the void in the canopy. if eu doesnt want to trade with britain the race will be on to fill the hole.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    A pity when they were all FRACKING AWAY WITH GREED…, none of them thought to REPLACE THE TREES…lol

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  • Brexit –Yawn
    Trump -Yawn
    Gospel -Yawn
    Wunna killing muh

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    And hello…Barbados does not even have their own constitution…ah can’t wait to hear about the documents we knew nothing about, buried in some basement in Whitehall…just suddenly APPEARING….now won’t that be a thing…

    but dont mind me

    #crazyandunstable

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  • hate line ups

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Lawson…ya are not as safe as you think…and you know it, but ya mind is telling you something quite different.

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  • @NO
    Yours @ 4.00 pm Jan 16

    I get the general thrust of the argument regarding Quebec however Quebec has its own Provincial Pension Plan, residents of Quebec receive QPP rather than CPP, however they are entitled to OAS. The Quebec Gov’t uses the Investment arm of its pension plan “Caissse de depot” to fund/purchase businesses important to the province if they are in danger of being taken over by interests outside of the province.

    I used to live in La Belle Province and when I moved my QPP moved to CPP.

    Je me souviens.

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  • Hal
    Put aside the games. It is apt for an adult..never the less, this comment of yours alludes to need to connect the dots..

    “…But there is a more important power struggle going on which is not often commented upon.”.… Quote.

    As the US is to the UN so is Germany to the EU which was defeated in the last world war.
    Here we have a Monarch vs a Chancellor with influence and who knows what else..

    Power struggle?
    Who knows, maybe you.
    Can you say if it is true that the plan is to bring Hiltler to the future to finish his AGENDA using the time travel technology? Well, what a thing that would be, surely under the guise of the EU, MAYBE the war still continues though steaithy, targeting the Brits economy and legal structures..

    But this is mere drivel and conspiracy.. you might say.

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  • no Waru we safe we resource based…..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    ha..the greedy love resource based, Africa maybe be too volatile in the 21st century..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    You really, really believe all that shit ya spewing from ya perch in Lala land…oh well..

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  • David

    My post seems to have gone into spam

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Hal and all…u say u are a bad teacher and I would agree… you are not humble enough 😂… But good ‘teachings’ at 7:03…

    This is of course NOT original but considering the NO vote against the Brexit Plan and the NO vote against ‘No Confidence’ it’s clear your folks can loudly say ‘what they are against but NOT what they are for’…

    Heard that somewhere before!

    … Isn’t it quite facile to label these actions across the UK (and US) as racism?

    You know well that that label was just as attributable to many govt actions for last 50+ years …so surely if a NO and NO vote speaks to a complex political saga as you state then one must accept that ‘racism’ or euphemistically an ‘anglo-saxonite’ ethocentricity tho very prevalent can’t be the end all and be all of this maddening referendum which has your adopted home in all types of knots.

    There is no way for Britain to return to some white ruled power structure (there will be Royal afro blood for generations upcoming even) so do give us a more intense look at this folly this week.

    Incidentally I am confused how you can be so boastful that the legislative branch is asserting it’s will as elected LEADERS when the citizens who elected them already voiced their opinion…the electorate told them to act in a certain direction so to change that course can onkt be described as true leadership in theoretical debates BUT in reality its necessary to go back to the people (in the form of an election in this case) and let the campaign be fought on that … And new folks ( or old) elected with a new mandate!

    … But alas we would be back to square one as both leading parties want out of EU and now it seems a majority of Brits likely don’t… a recipe for disaster…. so clearly politicians are motivated by the SAME things we all are: SURVIVAL.

    @Lawson, give Pelosi credit for being innovative re that security and SofU address. Sounded amazing to me but yet a cool ploy to get POTUS out of the House…if it works… which is unlikely.

    And didn’t ur boy loudly disparage Obama for signalling military actions saying that was stupid and he would not do such… apparently he can’t even take his OWN sensible advice!

    This bombing is all on him and his texting about pulling out…frankly his first text should have been our boys are home… period.

    One may not agree that the pull out is sensible but as with everything POTUS it’s his impulsive actions that are more the problem than the agreement/disagreement on the substance of the policy.

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  • Lol she is so transparent Get it right if he had them out they would be alive. He shouldn’t have listened to those who said stay. As I have said before let there god sort it out and deal with the winner

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    The fact is that getting out sounds good just as ur remark that ‘if they were out they would be alive’. You know it ain’t that simple…why are they there in first place…and dat is more complex than anything else!

    Nor can US stir up turmoil by invading Iraq and u say ‘let their God’ sort it out …the US has played God for eons all over the place…this POTUS CANNOT simply divorce the nation from all those tangles…he alone can’t fix it!

    BTW , I hope I am not or you a statistic of this shutdown…one guy took his loaded gun for a plane ride then other day…just one attack on US/Canadian soil traceable to lax security (u think Pelosi ain’t savvy) and bruggadung POTUS in real trouble …NOT the Dems.

    Ah well…maybe we will have to let our faith or agnostic ways sort this all out fah btrute

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  • @SS
    another view is PM May is doing her job as elected. She was picked to lead a party in power, where the outcome of a referendum was “Leave”. She subsequently called an election and won. It is therefore her job to execute the wishes of the people, whether she personally agrees or not.

    I note the MP’s seem to vote somewhat independently. IN Canada, if any of the backbenchers stepped out of the party line, they would be severely reprimanded. Refreshing to see. Albeit the Irish group seemed to vote in sync.

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  • @Hal, if a referendum was held anywhere in the Caribbean and the govt shows signs of wanting to put aside the results of the vote, we would be reading no end of failed state, end in tears crap written by yo. However, as a pro staying in the EU guy you will come here and give us all kind of garbage as to why the will of the people who voted should be ignored….in reality you are an out and out bullshitter.

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  • @Bajn in NY,

    You come on her often trying to challenge what I say. In the process you often manufacture things. Just read what you have posted above: “If a referendum……..”, in other words you are trying to anticipate my reaction in the likelihood of a hypothetical incident. This tells me everything about you. Don’t try to anticipate the operation of anyone’s mind. So, in simple words, your post is nonsense. Grow up.

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  • So dribblier you think it is okay for savvy pelosi to play with lives to meet her agenda, I myself do not think she is that bright she has put waters and cortez on the banking committee. LOL I wonder how long it will be before they catch one of them with their hand in the cookie jar, they already had waters once I wonder if cortez paid taxes on her bar tips, now she wants people to pay 70 percent of their wage to help her get green…….get green . I guess it didnt hurt gore,

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  • I see Theresa May won her no confidence motion!!

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  • @ Hal
    Do you mean to say that you have no confidence in the distinguished intellectuals on BU?
    How can you in all seriousness dismiss such brilliant minds and their unmatched understanding of world affairs?

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  • @ William,

    Me! A poor St Giles boy has lots of confidence in these intellectuals. I am humbled to be in the same blog.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Hal you are funny! So too @Lawson but he deliberately so whereas u are disingenuously funny because you surely can’t be serious with some of what you write like at 5:28!

    The Bajan from NY offered a very definitive hypothesis of your possible views based on your current Brexit comments…his analysis of your likely opinion is based on your failed state harangue very loudly stated previously re Caribbean (Bajan) political issues …how on earth is he WRONG to project that…are you smoking dis morning.

    I TOO was amazed at ur incredulous acclaim in this instance of the UK parliament ‘leaders’ going against the EXPRESSED wishes of the electorate (conflicted and confused tho they – electorate- seem) as compared to yours on similar local matters.

    @Lawson, of course Pelosi is savvy…you do NOT survive as she does in the back biting world of politics at the highest levels without being damn sharp elbowed and as sharp as a tack.

    I applaud Trump’s political nous but Pelosi is his match and more.

    And u are in ur funny mode with that one about play[ing] with lives to meet her agenda.

    Sweet joke.

    The guy in the WH is not playing with lives re folly about NATO pull out, this abrupt Syria pull out and shutting the govt over a wall which itself solves but a small part of the problem!

    Funny guy u are.

    That ‘shiny object’ Cortez will do her liberal far left ting and likely be a NY rep fixture for some years yet but basically outlandish (and that one is very outlandish) far-left policies have no chance of real success just as outlandish far-right don’t…

    But I see no reason their hands will be caught anymore than finally King’s was… Don’t yah think so!

    I gone.

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  • @ Pedantic,

    Plse explain yourself as I seem to miss the point. Bajan in New York was talking about a hypothetical point. In law that is called the operation of my mind. Yu seem to endorse this based on my previous contributions. May I suggest that he, and you, misunderstand my previous contributions over the years. You cannot know my likely opinion because you cannot read my mind.
    The appropriate thing to do is to ask me to explain, which I cannot remember ever refusing to do. Jumping to conclusions, as we called it in my youth, is based on false reasoning. If I have expressed a view you do not fully understand, plse ask me to clarify.. I have not changed my view on the nature of our democracy since my teenage years. But they have been refined.
    For clarity let me spell it out: in our representative democracy, the 650 members of parliament are delegated the authority to make laws; if in the opinion of the electorate they have failed, every four/five years they return for endorsement and voters can then make a decision. I do not believe in mob rule (call it a referendum).
    The Executive rules with the permission of parliament under our system. We do not elect prime ministers and ministers. What is so confusing about that.
    About the EU, I am for a United States of Europe.

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  • dribbler I dont recall Martin Luther being caught for his hand in cookie jar but you would know better. Pelosi is trying to stay relevant but she is in for a rough ride . Her wall being immoral statement is so dumb considering the wall around her house .But trump really knows how to pull here chain by saying she went to a far away warmer climate while he was in white house trying to make a deal . And her response was she still was incontinent.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Lawson, I can only presume u had crowds rolling when u played Comedy Central or any club in Toronto or wherever u played up north!

    Funny dude!

    But don’t play Hal on that King one…we were talking about Steve King with the loose tongue or figurative hands.

    The good Dr King is long gone and when the US salutes him on Monday it will NOT be about hanky-panky but the awesome work he did.

    @Hal, 😂…a referendum which in sum are the electorate giving their VOTE on representation outside the prescribed election cycle is “mob rule”.

    However that same vote process during an election to select leaders is orderly rule.

    Alright brother…sounds perfectly legitimate …SMH.

    I’ll try later to answer further ur remarks.

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  • @ Pedantic,

    I say again. Yo cannot have government by a mob. The role of the electorate is to elect its representatives who then delegate some of that responsibility to the Executive. Referenda are OK for the Swiss, they keep them warm, but not for a civilised society. In the UK the 650 parlimentarians are the people entrusted with power in our society.
    Maybe those political scientists at Cave Hill and those who describe Barbados as a democratic Republic with a foreign Monarch could better explain our system of government.
    I have had enough.

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  • Anybody who has been reading or paying attention to world affairs for the last quarter century , could have easily predicted the continued crisis in the so called “outside” world.
    The recurring tragedy is that while we expound on these matters we still miss the real message as it applies to our own geopolitical future.
    The question which should excite the know it alls is where do we in the Caribbean go from here because we already see where the rest are going.
    Trump and May are mere extensions of a decadent historical truth that no truly progressive thinker would seek to waste time over analyzing.
    Of course this is all too mundane and simple for the self appointed brilliant to understand.

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  • @David

    Corbyn should remind you of many/all Bajan politicians, except he’s white, not too intelligent and a PRIMO SHIT DISTURBER.

    What are his motives, good question, suspect he does not know himself. Trending down a path to oblivion though.

    Everyone seems to think May is responsible for this Brexit mess, shes only trying to carry out the populaces’ democratic decision from the VALIDLY HELD REFERENDUM. Appears now TO BE A LOT OF BREXITiers want to change their minds now that the deadline is only about two months away. It’s 1 of 27 trying to negotiate a divorce deal with BENEFITS, unfortunately their cards in hand are not very powerful.

    YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

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  • Play with the bull you get the horn. Pelosi still incontinent

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  • Trump Cancels Pelosi’s Trip Amid Feud
    2019-01-17 By Mark Warner

    President Trump has canceled a trip on an Air Force plane for Nancy Pelosi after she asked him not to give the State of the Union address while the government is shut down.

    President Trump on Thursday appeared to deny military aircraft to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for a foreign trip just minutes before the congressional delegation was set to depart, in a stunning response to her call to delay the State of the Union address amid the government shutdown.

    In a curt letter, Trump said her trip has been “postponed.”

    “Due to the Shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt, and Afghanistan has been postponed. We will reschedule this seven-day excursion when the Shutdown is over. In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate,” Trump wrote.

    “I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the Shutdown. Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative.”

    The White House reportedly stated that the trip would have kept Pelosi out of the country past the next paycheck deadline for federal workers and were hopeful for a deal to be struck before then.

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  • William Skinner
    You queried..
    …”The question which should excite the know it alls is where do we in the Caribbean go from here because we already see where the rest are going.”

    From having a perspective of world events where covert structures disguise with legitimate intent are being evacuated, the Caribbean must also determine the true value of such entities to it’s space.

    Secondly, the territory need greater unification, to support each other, to explore humanitarian possibilities and probabilities in economic affairs especially Haiti at this time which is being exploited of valuable rear earth minerals.

    Thirdly, as a zone of peace, watch and resist expansionist movements and offers to those not so strong nation states within the territory.
    Take note of Gambia.

    Military bases of foreign powers within the territory must be avoided and spoken against in all constitutions of the territory, even CARICOM.
    Take note of Russian base off the coast of Venezuela.

    Collectively, nation states must pay close attention to crime fighting, some suggest it is not what it seems to be.
    Pull the roots.

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