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When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.
Nelson Mandela

There has been a spike in criminal activity over the last two weeks a few we must label brazen.

The Attorney General and Commissioner of Police will point to the ‘stats’ to support the perennial concern of Barbadians that criminal activity remains at a low level comparatively so. The blogmaster reminds the goodly gentlemen that the ‘stats’ being quoted are criminal acts reported by the public.

The observation is that when the ugly head of crime raises its head higher than normal there always a hue and cry from the public calling for the police force to be more efficient. For the Courts to efficiently execute. There is a heavy focus on ENFORCEMENT.

Barbados is fortunate – using the word loosely – to be able to study the criminal landscape of our regional neighbours where the crime ‘stats’ are higher than Barbados. A conclusion is that it will not matter if there is an increase in the boots on the ground, whether we co-opt the army to support the police or even arm the police with more firepower. Other considerations have to be factored in the solution to be able to wrestle the vexing matter of increasing crime.

What are the underlying factors driving the dysfunctional behaviour affecting segments in the society threatening to destabilize our society? Bear in mind one of the redeeming and differentiating qualities of Barbados post independence has been the perception and reputation of being an orderly society with citizens showing respect for law and order. To state the obvious the blogmaster’s concern about escalating crime includes blue and white collar crime.

We have had discussions on BU’s pages about the rising crime in Barbados. The focus has been on what is visible, the acts. If we start from a basic position that a society is the “the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community”- the sustainable solution to tackling rising crime must be about influencing behaviours. We have to improve enforcement, however, a more proactive approach to dealing with parental delinquency, maintaining standards in the school system and fostering a culture in our communities where we are our borther’s keeper. Overarching what is required is for our leaders in the political and social sphere to execute on relevant plans that are relevant.

This weekend the blogmaster had reason to be in a rough neighbourhood and was intrigued to listen to a blockman sharing his view about the gun violence and brazen robberies being committed in Barbados of late. He was emphatic that it will get worse. Perpetrating violence by a young lawless group according to him is regarded as a ‘badge of honour’ and often a rite of passage in the communities they exist.  The culture espoused in ghetto music out of Jamaica feeds a mentality that middle class Barbadians removed from village and hood life cannot begin to fathom.

Do we know what we need to do to haul this lawless segment from the morass they now find themselves?

Do we appreciate time has run out on ignoring the situation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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306 responses to “Need to Respond to Rising Crime and Violence”


  1. re “When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.”
    THIS IS A MORONIC STATEMENT REGARDLESS TO WHOEVER SAID IT
    IT IS NEVER A GOOD CHOICE TO BECOME AN OUTLAW
    LAWLESSNESS IS WRONG


  2. When past govt tried to implement policies to patrol our bordies their was a hue and cry from quarters especially blp supporters and members
    Therefore the ball is in present govt hands to find solutions

  3. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    In 2005, the United Nations published a report declaring Scotland the most violent country in the developed world and Glasgow was its murder capital. Then they started treating violence as a health problem. Read more: https://wef.ch/2OtlweR

  4. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Georgie Porgie
    Context matters. When the law is unjust, justice requires that you become an outlaw.


  5. IF I SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR THESIS I SHOULD RETURN TO BIM AND BE AN OUT LAW

  6. Barbados Underground Whistleblower Avatar
    Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    The biggest criminals are the same Barbados Police working in COLLUSION with the Bankers, Fraudsters, drug dealers, strip clubs owners engaged in human trafficking, drug dealing and prostitution.

    The boys on the blocks islandwide knows this.

    Barbados is a failed island on par with the most crime ridden in the region.

    Crime will get worst continued aided by many many corrupt Police.


  7. peterlawrencethompson
    November 18, 2018 9:33 PM

    @Georgie Porgie
    Context matters. When the law is unjust, justice requires that you become an outlaw.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/214004/charged-shooting-death-bread-vendor

    What principles do these four believe in that would have motivated them to operate outside of the law and murder their victim?

    What did the bread vendor do them?

    Do all four of them subscribe to the same principles?

    Where did they learn these principles?

    What is the life that they believe in which they feel they are being deprived from living?

    My guess is they haven’t got a clue.

    Should all four be treated as adults, or just overgrown children who will never grow up?


  8. Would the law be unjust if it treated these as adults?

    Would that trigger an onlooker to become an outlaw?


  9. peterlawrencethompson
    November 18, 2018 9:33 PM

    @Georgie Porgie
    Context matters. When the law is unjust, justice requires that you become an outlaw.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Which law is unjust?

    Don’t you mean the application of a just law is unjust?


  10. IF I SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR THESIS I SHOULD RETURN TO BIM AND BE AN OUT LAW
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Actually you should NEVER have left in the first place…. letting second rate brass bowls run you away…

    ALSO, you should have accepted the invitation to join the political party …. and then used your influence to set them on the RIGHT path… It would have made a difference if someone among the shiitehounds actually understood decimals… (even if the complexities of heavy water were a bridge too far…)

    You actually OWE Barbados bigly…
    All the lotta shiite talk you got for Bushie …should have been directed at sorting out the shiite politicians bout here instead.
    Anyway…
    It is too late now….
    Besides, what could you do now with that big belly… and bad knees…
    LOL
    ha ha ha


  11. What law or laws do we have that are unjust?

    I would suggest any law or laws that the GOB is racing to repeal!!!


  12. … or change!!

  13. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    Almighty and most merciful God

    All these people are going to come and blame the police, the school, the church and all sorts of things.

    De ole man is not so concerned about the incident of crime but in its solution.

    And…

    De ole man understands one thing about that solution which is that UNTIL A FEW OF THE SO CALLED PEOPLE IN THD HEIGHTS START GETTING GUNNED DOWN , like the bradman, nothing will happen to these crimes and criminals

    So Dear Lord, de ole man prays that you permit that 3 or 4 of the targets are from the middle and upper class, so that dese rich people understand that the problem is part of their reality

    Then and only then, fellers like PLT and others here will be so genuinely incensed by this crime that they will serious look at options to halt this crime.

    Else dear Lord, dem an I going talk dispassionately and theoretically about this issue cause only he who feels it knows it and all else IS PRETTY RUMSHOP TALK


  14. “When past govt tried to implement policies to patrol our bordies (borders) their (there) was a hue and cry from quarters especially blp supporters and members…..”

    Hmmmmm……….

    Would it be too much to ask you to remind BU of those policies?

    Assuming you meant the Immigration (Biometric) Regulations 2015 that Commisiong challenged in Court, which ruled in his favour…….

    …….do you care to explain the correlation between government deferring the plan to finger-print passengers at the ports of entry and the recent spate of serious crime?


  15. De ole man understands one thing about that solution which is that UNTIL A FEW OF THE SO CALLED PEOPLE IN THD HEIGHTS START GETTING GUNNED DOWN , like the bradman, nothing will happen to these crimes and criminals

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    But something has happened with this crime and criminals!!

    You are half asleep writing rubbish!!

    The Police have apprehended and charged the perpetrators for the murder of the breadman.

    I doubt they will get bail, but who knows.

    Dodds from what I have seen and heard in the assizes, is a fate worse than death.

    You would be amazed at the number of people who are victims of gun crimes …. from every level of society, heights included.

    Whatever happens to the four, life for them will never be the same again.

    Remember the English guy who got gunned down over car parts and his body dumped somewhere in St. George?

    What happened the that crime and criminals?

    You are not really thinking.

    Nelson Mandela was I am sure talking about apartheid.

    To use his quote in the Barbadian context is ridiculous.

    There is nothing remotely similar in Barbados … and no equivalent Nelson Mandela languishing in jail!!

    There is no discernible higher principle associated with crime in Barbados.

    Some lawyers and politicians steal because they are lawless.

    Some police are corrupt because they are lawless.

    Murderers murder because they are lawless.

    Rapists rape because they are lawless.

    Barbados is a lawless, failed state.

    It has nothing to do with apartheid.

    Most of our laws are just, but they are not applied justly.


  16. … if at all!!


  17. Continue to quibble about the relevance of the quote. At some point you will shift gear and address the substantive issue.


  18. @John November 18, 2018 11:22 PM “Remember the English guy who got gunned down over car parts and his body dumped somewhere in St. George? What happened the that crime and criminals?”

    They have been charged and remanded in custody.

  19. Barbados Underground Whistleblower Avatar
    Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ John

    Some lawyers and politicians steal because they are lawless.

    Some police are corrupt because they are lawless.

    Murderers murder because they are lawless.

    Rapists rape because they are lawless.

    Barbados is a lawless, failed state.

    It has nothing to do with apartheid.

    Most of our laws are just, but they are not applied justly.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I have to agree with the above.

    Locals need to understand that the large quantities of drugs and guns don’t come in on their own.

    It is organised crime at a high level in business containers, boats, yachts, aeroplanes etc enabled by Coast Guards, Customs Officers and Corrup Police.

    The boys on the blocks and other youngsters in the Urban ghettos are at the low end of the spectrum fighting for scraps and to survive.

    Pieceundertherock since you want to discount the Police I will provide several entities which do illegal activities every time they open their doors from human trafficking, open prostitution, drug dealing, Fraud, money laundering etc and ALL are protected by local police.

    EVERY STRIP CLUB OWNER IN BARBADOS IS INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN COLLUSION WITH LOCAL POLICE.

    This is a known fact yet they exist with impunity.

    WHY?


  20. Simple Simon
    November 18, 2018 11:40 PM

    @John November 18, 2018 11:22 PM “Remember the English guy who got gunned down over car parts and his body dumped somewhere in St. George? What happened the that crime and criminals?”
    They have been charged and remanded in custody.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    So something was done, just that PUDR doesn’t know!!

    Lots of Bajans don’t know either.

  21. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster, the Mandela epigram is absolutely out of context as a suggestion that any of the local criminals are rebellious due to a denial of their basic human rights!

    What rights have they been denied that has led them to this criminal enterprise?

    The right to do as they please…or the right to leave school without skills but immediately earn lots of money…or is it the right to be rich and act with impunity like their alleged corrupt leaders?

    Of course it’s obvious that their choice to be outlaws is based on lack of integrity, lack of guidance and a desire for power and wealth and nothing to do with any denial of their basic human rights.

    And Mr BushT, how can you validate elevating an individual who digests those words from the former insurgent against apartheid oppression and boldly sticks to the letter of the law as imposed by those same unlawful oppressors as a beacon of local leaderdhip….SERIOUSLY!

    I accept the man’s knowledge and brain power but anyone who espouses to be an apartheid collaborator because he believes that agitating against unjust laws is considered lawlessness would be found ‘wanting’ as a leader of scores of Black people I suspect!

    Leadership cannot and is never only about intelligence as you know only too well.


  22. For sometime now the finger pointing and the blame game has been the national past time, unfortunately, until we look to ourselves as contributors, also, for solutions it will not get any better. The question, does anyone here for a minute thinks these pussy ass hooligans fell out of the skies? No, they have parents, therefore, if we continue to permit our children to grow up around us and become criminals; who the hell is to blame? From time immemorial, generation after generation had some external influence exerting a negative force on them, why this lot seems to be hell bent on self destruction taking us along with them? We as parent have fail. As a boy in the 60s many of our parents went off to the UK leaving us with uneducated gran mothers, she kept our ass in line. Going off topic a bit, could it be that gran mothers now like Simple Simon are more keen of fooping young men close to their gran children’s age rather than instilling discipline and teaching respect for all?


  23. As a society have the stakeholders done what is required to create a robust social justice program? Why have successive governments failed to craft and execute on a comprehensive youth program for example? If our leaders continue to pay lip service to this matter should we be surprised when our youth retreat to terrorizing the country?


  24. “The shooting, police say, represents Toronto’s 90th homicide of 2018.”

    https://edge.ca/news/4675114/toronto-police-homicide-90-scarborough-shooting/

    The problem in Barbados and in Toronto…..Young men with no meaningful jobs and access to guns and drugs.


  25. Crime prevention

    ” The well known entertainment strip at St Lawrence Gap, Christ Church frequented by tourists and Barbadians alike especially on weekends and the bustling Holetown in the northern St James district are to benefit from greater security attention.

    Police tourism officer Inspector Pearson McConney says this upgrade will include improvement to lighting and installation of the long-mooted CCTV technology.”

  26. Talking Loud Saying Nothing Avatar
    Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Sea, sand, beach and violence go to together like love and marriage throughout the Caribbean, Central America and South America where the elite promote themselves at the expense of their populations.

    pieceuhderockyeahright comments @ November 18, 2018 10:52 PM are apt.

    “Welcome sight: Why some Jamaicans want the army to stay”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-46139175

  27. Talking Loud Saying Nothing Avatar
    Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    “Syberton Miller, the wife of the late Cecil Miller, has been arrested and charged with the murder of her husband.

    On Tuesday, September 18, Miller’s lifeless body was found at #92 Rowans Park North, St George.”

    Source: Barbados Today


  28. We continue to discuss enforcement activity per usual.


  29. “In 2005, the United Nations published a report declaring Scotland the most violent country in the developed world and Glasgow was its murder capital.”

    Anyone who believes ANYTHING put out by that corrupt institution may be interested in a bridge I have for sale, going cheap, buyer collects. PLT?

    The facts of this phenomenon are far from being limited to Barbados. It is evident everywhere in the civilised world and is simply a result of misguided lefty molly-coddling, and the inexplicable efforts made by so many authorities to try to shift the blame to the victims, and the replacement of robust deterrents with hand-wringing BS.
    WHEN the malefactors are more frightened of the consequences of their crimes than they currently are, we may see some progress. There is NO SIGN of that reality being accepted by Western Establishments.
    Shoot to kill.


  30. What about Dr. King…?

    King spoke about the unjust Laws … he said that when laws are unjust you have right to break them … king was referring to the Jim Crow Laws of the South…

    Nelson Mandela said that penalty (the law) does not deter a man when his conscience has been aroused … Mandels came to this position because he was first leader in the African National Congress … to introduced violence in the struggle against the Apartheid Government of South Africa…


  31. David

    I want to encourage everyone here to get their hands on a copy of Nelson Mandela book entitled: long Walk to Freedom … it is very power book which chronicles Mandela’s entire life … but it focuses more on his struggle against the Apartheid government of South Africa…


  32. What u or most does not understand that criminal activity is sophisticated enough to penetrate technology at our borders and govts must always be well planned and be prepared to out smart criminals as they enter our countries
    Our borders cannot be allowed to stay weak and unprotected to protect a priviledge few who in pretense to gain they way through criminal activity would opposed measures that would ensure the protection of country and people
    Guns do not have wings .People who can infiltrate our borders through illegal means via technology are the source and reasons why criminality activity is on the rise in Barbados


  33. Ugly kids come from ugly parents …if you dont believe that…follow an ugly kid home. If the parents are rats how can the children not be. Its like the man who’s wife thought she was a chicken, when asked why he hadnt taken her to black rock he said it was because they needed the eggs. So the families are complicit in these crimes because they wont talk or even worse somehow benefit. A strict policy must be put in place where if you knew and said nothing you get half the time the criminal gets.
    The people barbados wants to attract are old and well off a bunch idiots running around shooting up the place aided by silence is not helping the economic recovery everyone wants.


  34. David
    November 19, 2018 12:26 AM

    As a society have the stakeholders done what is required to create a robust social justice program?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Many on here claim there has never been social justice in Barbados.

    Why would creating a social justice program work?

    What exactly is a social justice progam?


  35. “People who can infiltrate our borders through illegal means via technology are the source and reasons why criminality activity is on the rise in Barbados….”

    I’m curious…….

    Perhaps you may want to direct to your source of information that assisted you in forming the above conclusion. Or is this your personal (political) opinion and do you have statistical evidence to substantiate your claim?

    What evidence do you have that Barbados’ borders are “weak and unprotected?”

    And…. what were the policies the former DLP administration “tried to implement to patrol our borders,” but encountered opposition from, according to you, “BLP supporters and members?”

    Just asking………. for a friend.


  36. Is the family of the bread vendor due this social justice too?

    He may have been the only bread winner of his family.

    What should the GOB do?

    Should it give his family bread?


  37. @Lawson

    “Ugly kids come from ugly parents”

    I guess you follow every ugly kid home Lawson …? and then again … you ought to know best because you probably was one of them?

    However, anyone who has kids knows that no matter if you bring them up with the right set of values they give away to peer pressure most of the time … now I am not saying that every kid does this, but kids have tendency listening to their peers rather than their parents no matter if they were brought up in a loving Christian home with both parents presented Lawson.


  38. Artax

    There is no need to secure the borders when former Acting Commissioner Oral Williams told the nation several years ago that the illegal weapons were entering Barbados legal port of authority…

    And what incentive is there to entering Barbados borders…when there is no work even for the poor people of Barbados?


  39. The people barbados wants to attract are old and well off a bunch idiots running around shooting up the place aided by silence is not helping the economic recovery everyone wants.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Here is the amazing thing!!!

    The old well off people you describe may not be so old as you imagine.

    The are called high end visitors, not tourists.

    A tourists is a person who is traveling or visiting a place for pleasure, not “investing” gains, ill gotten or not.

    Here is the problem I believe that exists.

    Many “investors” have loads of money and Barbados is being used to hide/launder it.

    High end visitors bring high end crime with them!!

    We see that … Donville is an example.

    Take the English guy murdered and dumped in St. George.

    He was only 49, clearly working for his daily bread … but we know not exactly what he was doing!!!

    … and more importantly with whom!!

    He would probably have been described as a high end visitor …. he sure was not here for pleasure

    Every murder I see nowadays I wonder what the victim actually did for a living!!

    … even the bread vendor!!!

    High end crime undermines low end trust in just laws.

    Unjust application of those laws is a recipe for disaster!!

    A high end criminal who is untouchable by just laws inspires low end crime!!

    It brings the legal system into disrepute … which we also see!!

    Tourists go back home!!


  40. I dont follow every ugly kid home but lets just say I know where you live. I dont care what household they came from the parents know….were not talking 10 year old kids here this seems to be well into their teens. Parents know what kind of kids they have but its easier to not get involved, parents have to step up.


  41. This is a generalization. Many children are able to achieve having come from ‘challenging’ upbringing because off the influence from positive people from the outside read teachers, big brother relationships, church etc.


  42. @ Dribbles
    …..anyone who espouses to be an apartheid collaborator because he believes that agitating against unjust laws is considered lawlessness would be found ‘wanting’ as a leader of scores of Black people
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Relax Boss, this is above your pay grade.

    You would NEVER have seen the potential that resided in Saul to become Paul either.
    Most people could not INITIALLY see the value of Caswell in the area of ETHICAL behaviour, transparency and integrity -when he was being characterised as a trouble- maker.

    As Jeff correctly points out in respect of the SPIRITUAL laws that control this world,
    it requires a SPECIAL ‘sense’ to discern such things….
    That ‘sense’ is completely independent of education, status, location or appearance.

    Some ‘special gifts’ tend to come along with adoption….


  43. john you are wrong if you think there are more people that come to the island to fleece the locals lol….of what. Look most seniors well to do by the way … come for a holiday where the climate is good and its safe certainly not for the sidewalks


  44. Off message.

    Sorry but check out this extraordinary story from the UK.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46258687


  45. What are the pillars of our economy?

    What do we seek to transform from and what do we want to transform into?

    It is impossible to specify!!!

    If someone comes with “money” to “invest” in some activity, that activity suddenly becomes part of the economy, best thing since slice bread as touted by their factors!!

    There is no plan for long term stability, far less growth.

    The two most spectacular failures in the last 30 years have been golf courses and more recently, medical schools.

    The former AG, CJ and a former Deputy PM, acting GG touted golf courses.

    More recently, Ms. Ram touted medical schools.

    What do any of these factors know about the economic activity they have backed?

    Never seen any of the three playing a round of golf and most certainly, none of them could be associated with the operating theatre …. theatre perhaps!!

    Mean while we sink lower and lower!!


  46. @ Lexicon
    …but kids have tendency listening to their peers rather than their parents
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Is this your experience?
    …Not Bushie’s

    This would tend to be the experience of parents who are such brass bowls that it becomes obvious to the children from early.
    Bushie’s experience is that almost daily, children with whom he interacts – routinely express the wish to grow up to be JUST LIKE BUSHIE…

    Simple minds tend to make dogmatic statements.
    Life is much more complex than you seem to think boss…


  47. lawson
    November 19, 2018 7:48 AM

    john you are wrong if you think there are more people that come to the island to fleece the locals lol….of what. Look most seniors well to do by the way … come for a holiday where the climate is good and its safe certainly not for the sidewalks

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The OECD would not be involved if somebody wasn’t getting fleeced!!

    Figure out who!!


  48. We have comingled the tourist industry with the offshore sector!!


  49. Why do we have 10’s of thousands of acres in bush?

    What “development” is it waiting for?

    Will the developers supply the water?


  50. The agricultural sector has also been comingled with the offshore sector!!

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