Batts Rock and Recolonization

Submitted  by Dr. E. Anthony Hurley

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Batts Rock has been, for more than half a century, one of my favorite spaces in Barbados, that means on earth. It was there I had one of my most treasured experiences of childhood terror, when my schoolmates (we were all less than nine years old) suggested I climb up on one of the large boulders in front of the caves that were a feature of the beach in those days. They roared with laughter at my shocked surprise when a wave entered the cave, apparently underground, and washed me off my rocky perch, tearing my swim trunks and bruising my legs as I was knocked into the surf. It was there as a teenager we hung out in the bar built under and around the bearded fig tree that used to dominate the beach.

Over the years, as I lived abroad, I made it a feature of my frequent trips back to the motherland to visit this spot which held so many pleasant memories. On my visits for the last twenty years or so (I usually come at least two to four times a year), my practice has been to walk from Batts Rock to the old Paradise, my favorite (please excuse any American English spellings which my computer insists on using) swimming location.

In the last few months, therefore, I witnessed with increasing shock the renovation (and racialization) of the bar facilities (in front of the lifeguard station) which had been non-operational for many years. I grew concerned when I saw the installation on the beach front under the trees of concrete stands for umbrellas, the laying down of a straw carpet along the path where I previously walked, the setting up of standing light fixtures, and the positioning of tables and chairs.

The way in which the remodeling of this new bar has treated the beach space has conjured in my mind notions of recolonization. This renovation process has provoked in me the question: What’s going on at Batt’s Rock? Beach space that I thought was public has clearly been appropriated by the owners of this new operation. Even the public bathroom facilities, where for decades I’ve left my car keys in the care of the attendants, have been appropriated and colonized, bore a sign for a short while saying “La Cabane,” thereby signaling the ownership of the formerly public (Barbadian) rest rooms.

Colonization, I have been taught, in most cases involves the appropriation of space, of land. Barbados is in this respect a signal example of successful British colonization. The Barbadian land space was forcibly occupied, appropriated, by the British in the 17th century. The British, like other European colonizers of that era, made what was to prove an historical misjudgment by importing masses of Africans as chattel to further the economic objectives of their colonial enterprise. The lack of foresight of these colonizers and their inability to exercise permanent control of the majority populations they enslaved and colonized led to the reduction and destruction of the British and European empires internationally and eventually even to the relative independence of “Little England.”

Octave Mannoni (1899-1989), the French ethnologist, philosopher, and psychiatrist/psychoanalyst, taught in Martinique in the 1920s and in Madagascar in the 1930s. This experience gave him insights into relationships of dependency between colonizers and colonized people, and formed the basis of his 1950 text, Psychology of Colonization. In this text, as part of the understandable necessity to justify France’s brutal colonial practices and the responses of the colonized populations which he had witnessed in Martinique and Madagascar, Mannoni claimed that colonized people suffered from a dependency complex and in fact were unconsciously waiting and wanted and needed to be colonized. According to Mannoni, colonized people suffered from an inferiority complex that existed before they were actually colonized, that colonial racism was different from other kinds of racism, and that France was the least racist country in the world.

Mannoni’s theories of the dependency complex of colonized people were effectively challenged and refuted by two the Caribbean’s intellectuals, Aimé Césaire and Frantz Fanon, both Martinique-born. Cesaire’s Discourse on Colonialism exposed the limitations and fundamental hypocrisy of Mannoni’s assertions, in trying to excuse and justify the violent actions of colonizers, and emphasized that colonial racism was no different from any other kind of racism, while Fanon, himself a distinguished psychiatrist, more respectfully alluded to socioeconomic factors that inevitably contribute to psychological reactions and psychoses. My own explorations of colonial history and psychology also led me to the firm conclusion that Mannoni’s pronouncements were typical of the European need to justify colonial practices that were clearly crimes against humanity.

How therefore do I explain what is happening at Batts Rock? The owners of La Cabane, while clearly appropriating public space, cannot do so without the knowledge, acceptance, approval, or complicity of our national leaders or those in charge of protecting our national cultural heritage. Barbados is, after all, an independent nation. As the politically-conscious and socially-engaged musician, singer, and cultural ambassador Gabby (Dr. Anthony Carter) has had to remind us, our beaches belong to us. They are public. Barbados is a small country, with limited land space. Who gives permission for this tenuous land space to be occupied, to be appropriated, to be recolonized? Were we subconsciously wanting this? Are we suffering from Mannoni’s

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  • @John October 29, 2018 9:27 AM “A dog won’t bite the hand that feeds him!!”

    Not true.

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/17/dog-kills-female-owner-injures-2-year-old-girl-cops/
    Dog kills owner, injures 2-year-old girl: cops

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pitbull-dog-kills-poodle-attack-woman-london-home-wood-green-a8553716.html
    Pitbull dog kills family poodle and attacks owner after bursting into London home

    https://calgarysun.com/news/crime/langdon-woman-killed-by-own-dog-after-child-attacked
    Langdon-area woman killed by own dog after child attacked

    And many more cases, but David’s blog will permit only three links

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  • Peoples

    You see what I tell you that Artax is a real BLP kool aid drinker stool pigeon.

    This man is so puffed in his ignorance and imaginary brilliance – that he likes to jump into bloggers post and boldly try to correct them while unwittingly showing up himself to be a pure bred jackass.

    During the instance refer to above where bollards were placed in front of an ex-patriate residence on the Sandy lane area – the items place on the side walks were referred in the press as ‘Bollards’

    Artax – the joker was so bold as to try to disparage my post by asserting and implying that I used the wrong word and I really meant to say ‘boulders’.

    Oh lordie – bare sport in this rum shop.rotfl

    Now lets see the dictionary definition of ‘bollards’

    Bollard – short thick post used to prevent the passage of motor vehicles

    Now those who are familiar with the matter – can verify that they are indeed,short,thick concrete posts.

    First it was BLP Enuff yesterday making a false accusation about my post – but at least he was gracious enough to apologise

    But this shite hound Artax is of a particular brand of stupid.

    I expect no better from this brilliant BLP fool.

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  • @John October 29, 2018 1:09 PM “One of the most repulsive things I see in the US when a person walks their dog is after a deposit, soft or hard, the owner dutifully (and lovingly) puts their hand in a plastic bag which they bring along and picks it all up to carry home! As much as I enjoy dogs, this requirement is not acceptable.”

    So is it less repulsive to leasve you dog mess there for other people to clean up? or for other people to seep in?

    If you think that cleaning up after your own pet is repulsive, but that leaving it there for other people to clean up or to step in then you are just another nasty, disgusting Bajan.

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  • “It is nonsense to suggest or even think that segregation is being practiced to prevent black people from accessing any area of Batts Rock, since it remains one of the popular picnic spots in Barbados”

    Very apt and indeed nonsense as you suggest because people like the author tend to believe that after fifty years living abroad they must come back and find the country in the same state they left it and i have heard the same nonsensical comments such as “we in even got no way to pass” ” theses people tekking over we beach” in relation to the increasing use of Brownes beach by tourists and the proliferation of beach chairs. What people like the author must realise is that times change and development is very much part and parcel of the change. My concern would be to ensure that the benefits of the development are evenly distributed and not confined to the owners of the Boat yard, or Harbour Lights or Pirates Cove who would have ready access to developmental capital.That caveat notwithstanding; yes to development.

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  • John,

    It is not just etiquette, it is the law. We have wardens who will be on you in seconds – and the general pubic can also report offenders. The fine can be heavy.

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  • So Hal,

    On average, how many loads of hot steaming dog poo do you pick up when you walk your dog?

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  • Only what I cook with.

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  • Simple Simon
    October 29, 2018 1:20 PM

    @John October 29, 2018 1:09 PM “One of the most repulsive things I see in the US when a person walks their dog is after a deposit, soft or hard, the owner dutifully (and lovingly) puts their hand in a plastic bag which they bring along and picks it all up to carry home! As much as I enjoy dogs, this requirement is not acceptable.”
    So is it less repulsive to leasve you dog mess there for other people to clean up? or for other people to seep in?
    If you think that cleaning up after your own pet is repulsive, but that leaving it there for other people to clean up or to step in then you are just another nasty, disgusting Bajan.

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    I have a simple solution which I am amazed you have not considered.

    If I lived in an area where such a law or etiquette existed, I simply would not have a pet!!

    So when Bajans were encouraged to protest Sandals ban on walking dogs on the beach where their guests sunbathe, I didn’t take mine!!!

    I don’t need law or etiquette to figure that out!!

    Wonder if PLT took his dog to the protest at Dover!!

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  • This whole discussion has gone to the dogs……..

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  • “I can’t see any Bajan, black or white, being cool with that!!”

    Speak for thyself.

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  • Wow, T. Inniss…..yuh gine kill muh?

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  • I am waiting on your apology Artax.

    That is ,if those things matter to you.

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  • @John October 29, 2018 1:53 PM “If I lived in an area where such a law or etiquette existed, I simply would not have a pet.”

    I am beginning to wonder if you are my very bad neighbour from 3 houses away, whose dog has shat on my premises for decades. Because it is not against Barbados law to have your dog mess on other peoples’ premises, I am without legal recourse. Many people have advised me to poison the dogs, but because I am a soft hearted simpleton I have not done so. So even though I have never kept a dog, I have for years cleaned up other people’s dogs messes. I use the plastic bag n my hand method, then I wash my hands with soap and water. Plastic bag, and soap and water works. I am in realitively good health for an old lady. No zoonotic diseases yet.

    It is either clean it up or have my children and grandchildren play in it.

    Or never let them play outdoors.

    Sigh!!!

    Sometimes we have to do more than should reasonably be expected of us.

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  • On a more serious note…….

    You took a SIMPLE issue the author raised about Batts Rock and compared it with the Sandy Lane issue, under circumstances where they are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUES……..only to politicise the situation, in the hope of “scoring cheap political points.”

    And my highlighting this FACT to you……….. is indicative of me being a “BLP kool aid drinker stool pigeon.”

    I must COMMEND you for your “exceptional skill” of being able to identify BLP yard-fowls, even though their contributions do not contain anything that can be identified as defending that political party.

    I’m sure that you CANNOT refer to any phrase in any of my comments that would EXPLICITLY identify me as a supporter of the BLP…….

    ………….and rather than “rant and rave” ……. I CHALLENGE you to PRESENT the EVIDENCE to SUBSTANTIATE your claim.

    But you, on the other hand, posts contributions that are excessively critical of the BLP, while defending the tenure of the former inept DLP administration and praising its members.

    My friend, the ONLY bloggers’ posts I “like to jump in” is yours and the other DLP yard-fowl, to “unwittingly show wunnuh up as two pure bred DLP lackey jackasses,” a task I have ACCOMPLISHED on several occasions.

    You come to this forum with a lot of silly one-sided, shiitey political arguments that even Dompey could easily “tear apart.”

    “Bollards” are steel rebar encased in concrete structures, usually round or cylindrically shaped that are meant to be permanently placed on side walks, pathways or drive ways, and used for purposes such as security or to guide traffic to particular area.

    As it relates to the Sandy Lane issue, BOULDERS were placed on the opposite side of the road, which prevented the popular food vendor, Sandra, from parking her food van to ply her trade and cars from parking in that area.
    This action resulted in people protesting, causing the hotel to remove the boulders, allowing Sandra to continue plying her trade and cars parking there.

    In case you do not know, the word “PERHAPS” is used to express “uncertainty or possibility.” Taking the above information into consideration, it’s clear that you were unaware of the situation opposite Sandy Lane and may have incorrectly used the word “bollards,” hence the reason I wrote “PERHAPS you meant BOULDERS.”

    It’s a pity you continue to allow “a shite hound such as me that is of a particular brand of stupid” and my “imaginary brilliance” to EXPOSE the shiite you bring to this forum………as shiite.

    WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT YOU, my friend?

    And despite all your insults, “ranting and raving” ………. I will CONTINUE to EXPOSE the NONSENSE you post to this forum.

    “Watch Muh!!!”
    “I got this!!”

    Hahahahaha.

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  • I am beginning to wonder if you are my very bad neighbour from 3 houses away, whose dog has shat on my premises for decades. Because it is not against Barbados law to have your dog mess on other peoples’ premises, I am without legal recourse. Many people have advised me to poison the dogs, but because I am a soft hearted simpleton I have not done so. So even though I have never kept a dog, I have for years cleaned up other people’s dogs messes. I use the plastic bag n my hand method, then I wash my hands with soap and water. Plastic bag, and soap and water works. I am in realitively good health for an old lady. No zoonotic diseases yet.

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    Not much chance of me being your neighbor, you aren’t that lucky!!!

    So, do you agree with Sandals preventing people walking their dogs on the beach, a public place?

    Maybe PLT should devote some of his efforts to a dog poop law!!

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  • “What people like the author must realise is that times change and development is very much part and parcel of the change.”

    Mr. Skeete

    Having grown up in Black Rock I’m familiar with the Batts Rock beach area. I also recall when the Mounters lived near the top of the road leading to that beach. It was one of several beaches in the area we frequented as children, especially on Sundays. One could easily walk from Batts Rock to Paradise (or Four Seasons), Fresh Water Bay, Spring Garden and on to the “hot pot”, Texaco, Brighton, Brandon’s and Lands End beaches.

    The Coastal Zone Management Act of 1998 required the Coastal Zone Management Unit to prepare an Integrated Coastal Zone Management Plan (ICMP) to provide a framework for planning, managing and safeguarding this island’s sea coasts. The NCC, under whose mandate the management of beaches falls, prepared a draft Beach Management Plan (BMP) in accordance with the recommendations of the ICMP.

    Batts Rock is one of the beaches managed by the NCC.

    It is interesting to note that the NCC also builds bar and restaurants for rental and allocates spaces on the beaches for beach vendors’ booths or kiosks.

    Perhaps the building that houses La Cabane was constructed by the NCC and leased or rented to the current operators of the restaurant.

    Between 2005 and 2006, the NCC conducted a study of beaches that falls under its mandate. A survey of Batts Rock beach was conducted between November 21 – 27, 2006, during which 120 locals and 58 tourists were surveyed. The researchers also observed activities that were unique to certain or specific beaches. it was observed that Picnics were popular at Batts Rock beach, especially on weekends and public holidays….. and people parked their cars and ate lunch in the parking area at the beach.

    They also received complaints about the extent of beach erosion caused by rough seas, as well as stay dogs, the quantity of garbage scattered about the area by vagrants after picnics and people riding motorcycles on the sand in a manner that was dangerous to the users of the beach.

    As a result and as I have previously mentioned, the NCC redeveloped and improved the Batts Rocks beach area to accommodate locals and visitors alike.

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  • Sargeant October 29, 2018 2:02 PM
    “This whole discussion has gone to the dogs……..”

    Sargeant,
    Pay attention to the mischievous smile on William Skinner’s face when he wrote (6:18 AM):

    “As a youngster, I vividly recall a dog that used to chase people….
    I observed that this dog never chased a white person….. .”

    These are a sprinkling of the classic ingredients needed to stimulate the imagination of the feather-pated. From the moment John the Quaker sniffed the aroma, he took off like a hare rabbit.
    “Well, the dog dead now”, I thought to myself.

    Dog dead? Before the cat could lick his tongue, far less his ears, others got a whiff of the aroma also (or of John’s tail) and now we have an exciting dog race.

    At the end of the first furlong, John the Quaker, is ahead by 20 lengths. Will he tire?

    Enuff scratched.

    LOL

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  • SS

    My household always had dogs, up to 7 dogs one time … in an area allocated to them.

    They defended one side of the house!!

    They had a grassed area where they pooped.

    The rain took care of moving it … completely naturally.

    The last one died in 2014 and I swore I would never keep another dog … too much emotion and at the time I was in and out of the island.

    Since then three have wondered in, abandoned by uncaring Bajans in the area.

    That is a big problem in Barbados. far bigger than the recolonized Amerindians at Batt’s Rock!!!!

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  • The Coastal Zone Management Act of 1998 required the Coastal Zone Management Unit to prepare an Integrated Coastal Zone Management Plan (ICMP) to provide a framework for planning, managing and safeguarding this island’s sea coasts. The NCC, under whose mandate the management of beaches falls, prepared a draft Beach Management Plan (BMP) in accordance with the recommendations of the ICMP.
    Batts Rock is one of the beaches managed by the NCC.
    It is interesting to note that the NCC also builds bar and restaurants for rental and allocates spaces on the beaches for beach vendors’ booths or kiosks.
    Perhaps the building that houses La Cabane was constructed by the NCC and leased or rented to the current operators of the restaurant.
    Between 2005 and 2006, the NCC conducted a study of beaches that falls under its mandate. A survey of Batts Rock beach was conducted between November 21 – 27, 2006, during which 120 locals and 58 tourists were surveyed. The researchers also observed activities that were unique to certain or specific beaches. it was observed that Picnics were popular at Batts Rock beach, especially on weekends and public holidays….. and people parked their cars and ate lunch in the parking area at the beach.
    They also received complaints about the extent of beach erosion caused by rough seas, as well as stay dogs, the quantity of garbage scattered about the area by vagrants after picnics and people riding motorcycles on the sand in a manner that was dangerous to the users of the beach.
    As a result and as I have previously mentioned, the NCC redeveloped and improved the Batts Rocks beach area to accommodate locals and visitors alike.(Quote)

    What has all this to do with what the original author calls ‘racialisation’ of Batts Rock – which, by the way, is a beach I am not familiar with.

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  • Circa 1960.

    At mansion near Glitter Bay there were a couple of Alsations/German Shepards that used to chase passers by into the sea.

    Then they stopped. It was reported that one of my friends intervened with a rock stone.

    The owner of the dogs was white. Me and my friends were black although they used to call me brown skin or red.

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  • Going north along the west coast, towards the end of Black Rock, Batts Rock is on your left approximately opposite the old Lazeretto, now the Archives. A nice heavily wooded beach. I have nothing against the beach there, but i don’t like the sea there. But I haven’t gone there since 2006/2007.

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  • When I was little my parents used to keep an Alsation/German Shepherd (not the one which chased Hants and his friends lol!) he was the biggest, sweetest, most gentle, most foolish, most lovable dog ever. I loved that beast. More than 50 years on I still remember him fondly. He was deathly afraid of thunder, and would find a bed to hide under whenever thunder started.

    i’ve never kept a dog in my adult life, but if I could clone our Rover I would indeed be happy.

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  • My friend, the discussion went on to people mentioning the La Cabane and it was implied that the operators may be expatiates who were preventing locals from accessing the beach.

    As is proven by your comment re: “We need the government to speak out. No Barbadian government has spoken out about public access to the beaches, and sought to enforce the law (is there a law?) over the last 50 years. That is where the pressure should be applied. We also have to put pressure on Town and Country planning (the prime minister’s responsibility) and the police to enforce the law.”
    “I have said before I suspect that secret agreements are made with foreign investors which are not put in writing for fear of the back lash. It is all to do with foreign reserves. Prostitution is prostitution, whether it is on Bush Hill or for foreign reserves.”

    My comment clearly indicates that NCC manages the Batts Rock beach, conducted a survey and subsequently improved access to the beach and the surrounding area. I also mentioned that the NCC constructs bars and restaurants for rental and allocates spaces on the beaches for beach vendors’ booths or kiosks……..

    ……….. which under the circumstances are relevant to La Cabane……..and as I mentioned, there is a probability that it was constructed by the NCC.

    Even Dompey could understand where I was going.

    “What has all this to do with what the original author calls ‘racialisation’ of Batts Rock….?”

    And I guess your below comment and the subsequent comments about dog walking, dog poop and foreign reserves has everything “to do with what the original author calls ‘racialisation’ of Batts Rock.”

    “Which UK is it that it is unusual for black people to walk dogs? It seems you do not even read the |UK press since dogs are frequently mentioned as weapons of war. Even the Asians in my street now have dogs. If you are not familiar with a society you must resist temptations to generalise about them. Who are the organisers of illegal dog fights?” [Hal Austin October29, 2018 10:009 AM]

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  • When are you going to refer this forum to any legislation that authorizes the BDF to regularly patrol the West Coast?

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  • HAL

    Don’t pay that pure bred idiot any mind and go answering any of his questions.

    He knows all – yet he knows nothing. He was caught out once again.

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  • I have really been trying to keep out of this argument, particularly when the subject got diverted to dogs. On that subject, whatever happened to the person whose dogs mauled an elderly black woman in Brighton? The dogs were of high pedigree, not put down at the time by the way and the man (of White ethnicity) recently sold his property and kept his dogs – nuff said – a diversion.

    I have an apartment near Batts Rock and frequently walk that stretch of the beach. I don’t live in Barbados but travel there often. One of the things I admire about Barbados is its use of the beaches on a Sunday or during public holidays for ‘family time’. I have become accustomed to the locals frequenting the public beaches during these times, picnics, swimming and music are the norm and the vibe was welcoming. The locals even took their dogs, not mostly ‘killer’ looking dogs as has been associated with blacks on this post, but more often small sausage looking canine species. I recall being offered food by locals that were picnicking – the vibe along the shoreline was welcoming and nice.

    A couple of months ago, I took the same walk and instead of the multiple, picnicking locals I had grown accustomed to, there was a sea of white people, a couple of ‘foreign’ black people in the mix, with the locals sitting around the outskirts looking as baffled as I was. A few things struck me then and since:

    how is it the white people are able to galvanise their people to support them, even during the slow season (the place was packed!)?
    How is it that they were able to secure that prime spot – was a Government tender ever issued?

    -To what extent is the GOB willing to continue to sell Barbados resources to wealthy white people at the expense of majority Blacks for short term gains?

    One of the problems I have with this blog is respondents are very willing to allow themselves to be side-tracked. This blog did not begin with a conversation about racist dogs but allowed itself the be side tracked.
    The reality is Batt’s Rock has changed its focus; it’s more like a poor white man’s Niikki Beach than a public beach frequented by locals.

    Pertinent questions for me:

    how was this allowed to happen?
    to what extent were the opportunities available on this beach advertised and tendered?
    Instead of moaning, what are the locals who used to frequent this stretch of beach doing about it?

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  • Indicate to me where “he was caught out once again.”

    But I know for sure that T. Inniss was caught out once again.”

    Who is the “pure bred idiot” now?

    Hahahahaha

    Watch muh!!!!

    I got this!!!!!

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  • ARTAX VS MR T! THE FIGHT OF THE CENTURY FOR THE BU BRASS BOWL CROWN! EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!

    A recap of the fight so far:
    The first round was dominated by the challenger Mr.T who opened up the fight with some fancy footwork,stinging jabs, and plenty of trash talking:

    T.Inniss October 29, 2018 1:16 PM
    “Artax is a real BLP kool aid drinker stool pigeon.
    This man is so puffed in his ignorance and imaginary brilliance….
    .. he likes…. showing up himself to be a pure bred jackass.
    Artax – the joker ….
    ……this shite hound Artax is of a particular brand of stupid.
    I expect no better from this brilliant BLP fool.”

    At the start of the second round, Artax appeared to have worked out the strategy of his opponent. Feeling confident that Mr. T does not possess the power and strength to harm him, Artax decided that it was now his turn to taunt and tease.:

    Artax October 29, 2018 2:08 PM
    “Wow, T. Inniss…..yuh gine kill muh?”

    Then suddenly, Artax shifted gear and took the fight to a higher level:

    Artax October 29, 2018 2:44 PM
    “On a more serious note…….”

    Brimming with confidence, and now beginning to sweat, Artax winked at his fans and told a reporter close by:
    “Watch Muh!!!”
    “I got this!!”

    With lightning speed, he unleashed a 5-punch combination (Ha ha ha ha ha) with the last punch, a vicious straight right on the button, sending Mr.T reeling across the ring.

    Can Mr. T survive this punishing onslaught? Will he beat the referee’s count? Or will he be knocked out and sent scurrying out of Dodge with his tails between his legs?

    For the answers to these questions and more, stay tuned to BU.
    If you blink, you mightn’t see Mr. T sink.

    .

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  • The prime minister is responsible for town and country planning. She can sot it out – if she wants. Who is the local MP?

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  • JUVENILLE BEHAVIOUR.ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT FOR SURE.Sigh

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2017/06/19/accused-pitbull-owner-granted-bail/

    Last year.

    He says he is not the owner of the Pit Bulls who killed Verona Gibson.

    Would be interesting to know who he says is the owner!!

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  • Many of you come to this forum ‘claiming’ you want to see Barbados elevate to a better place. Yet by your exchanges onlookers can conclude we get the government we deserve.

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  • I have really been trying to keep out of this argument, particularly when the subject got diverted to dogs.

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    No diversion!!!

    The blog started with racism and the topic of racist dogs was raised!!!

    People clearly believe dogs can be racist!!

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  • onlookers can conclude we get the government we deserve.

    AND WE DO!

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  • AM I really reading this nonsense from Walter Blackman well,well,well.

    Where did that come from ?

    Very interesting – and here I was thinking this fella was above that kinda shite.

    Yuh really mek muh smile

    I am having a selah moment right now – and recalling nuff things that I had pushed in the recesses of my mind.

    The BU rum shop indeed. Ha ha ha..

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  • T. Inniss,
    You have to become aware when someone needs help and try not to feed their anger. It is the same sociopathic disease that leads to people breaking in to a Synagogue to murder worshippers, or to shoot two elderly black people because you are angry with the world.. Some become keyboard warriors anonymously and express hatred for the world because they do not share their views, then drift away and get drunk.
    A lack of good manners is a common characteristic. They are always ‘vex’, and do not debate to exchange ideas, but to score points, to show how clever they are, since they perceive they are not appreciated, that is why they focus on the micro-issues, the examples, and not the substantive issues. They are the sort of people who talk about spelling mistakes in a work on moral philosophy.
    Such people lash out and translate that anger in to vindictiveness for all kinds of reasons. There are some common features in Barbadian culture. Remember those school boy fights and the reasons behind them? But I digress..

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  • Hal

    Honestly my eyes were opened a little wider this evening.

    A veneer of respectability is just that – A VENEER !

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  • Mr. T SUFFERS A BONE CRUNCHING KO IN THE 2ND ROUND! EXTRA! EXTRA!

    After failing to beat the referee’s count, Mr. T collapsed like a bag of coal from Newcastle midway through the second round of his BU championship fight against Artax.
    With his fighter lying unconscious on the canvas, manager Hal Austin was forced to field questions from reporters. Towards the end of the interviewing session, Mr.T regained consciousness, frantically pulled at the coattail of his manager, and bizarrely started to issue instructions as to how Hal should deal with the reporter:

    T.Inniss October 29, 2018 6:08 PM
    “HAL
    Don’t pay that pure bred idiot any mind and go answering any of his questions.
    He knows all – yet he knows nothing. He was caught out once again.”

    Doctors say that Mr. T is exhibiting the classical symptoms that result from being punch drunk so no country or state should give him a license to box again.

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  • @ss
    I see that someone told you to poison the dog. I would never do that. However, I would tell you to feed it….get the point

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  • I have a grudging admiration for John. He moves between sanity and lunacy quite easily. One moment a fount of knowledge and common sense, the next moment — sheer insanity – spinning tales of Quakers and the good treatment of slave

    He can hijack any topic.

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  • John does not hijack any topic, it is those who ‘follow’ that do.

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  • T.Inniss October 29, 2018 6:36 PM

    “AM I really reading this nonsense from Walter Blackman well,well,well.

    Where did that come from ?

    Very interesting – and here I was thinking this fella was above that kinda shite.

    Yuh really mek muh smile”

    T.Inniss,
    Yes, you are reading this nonsense from me.
    The intention is not to curse or ridicule you. The intention is to punish you, and I’m using poetic license (what you disrespectfully refer to as “nonsense” and “that kinda shite”) to do so.

    Why am I attempting to punish you?

    At a time when Barbadians are trying to exchange ideas and effective strategies as a means of combating the obviously high levels of corruption, malfeasance, exploitation, subjugation, racism, poverty etc, which are turning their lives into a day-by-day, miserable, and pitiful existence, we need the sharpest minds to illuminate a way forward for the others.

    You have ability. You must learn to use it positively and wisely for the benefit of your fellow Barbadians.

    Whenever you use your god-given talent to launch vicious,unwarranted, ad hominem attacks on another blogger, I will be the very first to “light into” your backside here on BU. Be warned, and be not shocked to hear that I am not above using any “kinda shite” with the aim of bringing you to a Christian understanding. I don’t have to know you. I only have to know your mind, and I will try to bend that against your will, if I have to.

    I will watch and monitor how well you take good advice.

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  • Walter

    Who died and mek you god ? Keep in your lane fella.

    All this righteous indignation over someone who was caught out once again parroting lies and ignorance and when pointed out – refused to acknowledge he was wrong and apologise

    Your response shocked me because I could not believe you were condoning that.

    Nevertheless I recognize that something else is at play – but I will stand back and see my hunch coming to pass.

    Since when you became the defender of bloggers .Skipper – go and sleep hear – because in due season all will be understood.

    You mekking yuhself look like a full idiot.

    To take a quote from another blogger #restmuh lol

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  • T.Inniss October 29, 2018 8:38 PM

    “Walter

    Who died and mek you god ? Keep in your lane fella.

    Skipper – go and sleep hear…

    You mekking yuhself look like a full idiot.”

    T. Inniss,
    We have established two things so far:

    You have infected yourself with an unhealthy dose of false bravado.
    You do not have the desire or willingness to take good advice.

    Those two characteristics do not necessarily make you a bad fella, so I will give you another piece of good advice.
    Looking through your eyes, having vanquished Artax and me, and having “mek” yourself look like a full “brainiac”, you must now go forward triumphantly and make those positive contributions to BU which I know you are capable of making. Ditch the false bravado and focus on your “real” self. Minimize the ad hominem attacks. For you on BU, the sky is the limit.
    Good luck, my friend.

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  • Walter

    Uh see this discussion has gone from concentrating on the substantive issue….. Batts Rocks……. to racist dogs, walking dogs and dog poop……and trashing Artax.

    T. Inniss mention of “someone who was caught out once again parroting lies and ignorance and when pointed out – refused to acknowledge he was wrong and apologise,” was obviously a snide reference to me.

    Yuh see, Walter, many of these “smart, intelligent guys” usually FORGET what they contribute to this forum.

    All I did was to point out to T. Inniss that the issue he raised about Sandy Lane and the issue the author raised about Batts Rock are NOT comparable…….in Bajan terms “dem en pun all fours.” Walter, can you or anyone indicate to me where are the UNTRUTHS in my statement?

    Now, Walter………PLEASE PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION to the following excerpts taken from T. Inniss’ October 29, 2018 10:18 AM and October 29, 2018 1:16 PM contributions respectively:

    “……..they objected to the bollards that were placed on the SANDY LANE PUBLIC PAVEMENT where the Bajans beach holders USED to PARK…….” [10:18 AM]

    “During the instance refer to above where bollards were PLACED IN FRONT OF AN EX-PATRIATE RESIDENCE ON THE SANDY LANE AREA – the items place on the sidewalks were referred in the press as ‘Bollards’…” [1:16 PM]

    Walter, yuh see why I used UPPER CASE LETTERS to highlight certain words?

    T. Inniss, the said individual who mentioned I “was caught out once again parroting lies and ignorance” ……..

    ……… “switch he mouf” from “saying” SANDY LANE PUBLIC PAVEMENT to………

    ………..” bollards were PLACED IN FRONT OF AN EX-PATRIATE RESIDENCE ON THE SANDY LANE AREA.”

    Now…… who is de body dat “once again get caught out parroting lies and ignorance?”

    You should also note that T. Inniss DID NOT dispute the point I raised about the boulders that were placed opposite Sandy Lane and how they affected food vendor Sandra and those parking in the area, most of whom work at Sandy Lane Hotel.

    Should not T. Inniss be ASHAMED of himself that a “stool pigeon” who is “so puffed up in his ignorance and imaginary brilliance,” who “shows up himself to be a pure-bred jackass” and is a “shite hound of a particular brand of stupid,” ………….

    …………..was successful in IDENTIFYING him as the real culprit………… “parroting lies and ignorance?”

    But Walter, you dun know that he en gine “refuse to acknowledge he was wrong and apologise.” But, it’s all good.

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  • Oppressive language does more than represent violence, it is violence… does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge – Toni Morrison

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  • The Truth Shall Set You Free

    You have to become aware when someone needs help and try not to feed their anger. It is the same sociopathic disease that leads to people breaking in to a Synagogue to murder worshippers, or to shoot two elderly black people because you are angry with the world.. Some become keyboard warriors anonymously and express hatred for the world because they do not share their views, then drift away and get drunk. A lack of good manners is a common characteristic. They are always ‘vex’, and do not debate to exchange ideas, but to score points, to show how clever they are, since they perceive they are not appreciated, that is why they focus on the micro-issues, the examples, and not the substantive issues. They are the sort of people who talk about spelling mistakes in a work on moral philosophy. Such people lash out and translate that anger in to vindictiveness for all kinds of reasons. There are some common features in Barbadian culture. Remember those school boy fights and the reasons behind them? But I digress.. (Quote)

    THIS DESCRIBES YOU PERFECTLY. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN FACING A MIRROR WHEN YOU WROTE IT.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    Oh dear cant we all just get along?

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    Thanks for the collage of Batt Rock.

    It gave a soft of perspective and allowed me to see what looks like a groomed space for a NCC restaurant

    As with these facilities certain people paid kickbacks to the NCC manager and the licence is awarded to someone other than a black person

    Circa 1998 there was a black lady Anne Goring who used to cook some of the best food in Barbados

    She operated the NCC facility at The place there obliquely opposite Regency cove hotel.

    It was called Ryannes

    Well look sharp de NCC manager get pay some silent money and Anne het kick out.

    But de ole man glad doah cause wunna sheeple ent deserve nice places to empower wunna selves

    John should really leh go he dogs pun wunna if he vat h wunna offsides.

    The phenomenon of specific hounds that are owned by white persons only attacking people of colour reminds de ole man of a 1982 picture starring Kristie McNichols called “white dog ” where a trainer attempts to retrain a vicious dog that’s been raised to attack black people, the dog NEVER LOSES ITS ORIENTATION AND HAS TO BE KILLED? I forgot the ending but in the very last scenes I recall the dog that they thought had been reprogrammed rushing at a black man…

    It is indeed a repeatable theme here though, be it showroom manager pushing black man’s head into counter, or Lady Hoagie dumping her trash on black boutique owner’s counter or white man in highgate shooting black man or white restaurant owner shooting black man or white man killing son during domestic incident or white importer of drugs permitted to legally abscond jurisdiction while black kingpin drug dealer languishes in Dodds, it is clearly noted that we have a whites/blacks problem that does not seem to be going anywhere soon.

    And, AND THE BLACK LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN PERPETUATING IT to the shame and disadvantage of blacks

    This article, like others of its type, bring to the fore the festering discontent of race inequality that lovingly? lingers on the shores of this our paradise Bim.

    Try as we may, a simple beach facility being lovingly doled out to a white leasee, in the face of kicking out black leasees cant really promote any confidence or concepts of equality among the 95% black population

    I sorry if I ent adopt the populist view…

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here thank you

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  • ““What people like the author must realise is that times change and development is very much part and parcel of the change.”

    Mr. Skeete

    My reference to the AUTHOR was to Dr Hurley and not you sir- your comments are indeed supported by me. i grew up on Brownes beach when the bathing area was confined to the area where fishing activity took place.

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  • Could the author not have better spent his time contatcting the NCC and finding some facts out, instead of getting lost in his racist “recolonistation” theory?? List of things no one bothers to find out, or understands, before making usual knee-jerk dumb/racist assumptions.

    1) How long had the bar/retail unit that was constructed by the NCC at Batts Rock been vacant, prior to La Cabane taking a lease and occupying?

    2) How long was the vacant unit advertised to rent on the NCC website, as assume this would be how it was advertised?

    3) What area of the land that the NCC deemed was part of the units demise when they granted the lease – has the bar placed the furniture etc. within the demised area surrounding the property they have leased?

    4) The refurbishment of the public toilet block by the owners of La Cabane, and which is still a public toilet block, benefits all users of the beach.

    5) The section of the beach which faces the beach-bar is still fully accessible from all directions, being between the cholera burial ground and the beach, along the track which still provides vehicular access across the lot. Also the beach to the front of La Cabane is the least used section of the whole beach by bathers, given the submerged rocks and reef which are in the waters at this section.

    So if I understand the text above, by these entrepreneurs being white – no matter they’ve spent their own money investing in refurbishing and fitting out the NCC unit, complying and meeting with the NCC rules and requirements for their location, refurbishing the public washroom facilities, and providing food and drinks to all beach goers, who are in no way impeded in accessing the beach by the locating of this operation – they’re being accused of recolonising the beach to the detriment of local users – how so?

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  • Why would you refurbish and fit-out something that is not yours….
    I am here looking at a kitchen that need some work…
    Unlike Barbados – a black or white Bajan can get the job

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    You dun see why Edmund Hinkson and Dale smiley get assigned to close down BU under the Computer Data Act of 2019?

    You see how quick de NCC manager get instructions to go pun BU and talk bout demise?

    You see how this much smarter feller in upper management come and put some serious pressure pun de writer by talking bout leases?

    My man dem planning for you real intensely and the demise of this site under dem Lese Laws dat going mek it illegal to speak out about Mugabe or you going get lick.

    Encryption, and a quick delete application, jes in case dem bum rush your offices, like dem do wide Trump lawyer ok?

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