What’s UP With the Fence?

 

What the hell is going on in this country….can town and country planning explain this to the people of BARBADOS please

– The following video posted to Barbados Wall of Shame Facebook page.

 

117 thoughts on “What’s UP With the Fence?


  1. “No structure should be sited closer than 30.5m (100ft) from the High Water Mark or in the case of a cliff frontage, 9.14 m (30ft) from the most landward undercut of the cliff.
    In addtion, no gate, fence, wall or other means of enclosure shall be erected closer than thrity feet 9.14m (30ft.) from the High Water Mark or 3.0m (10ft.) from the most landward undercut of the cliff.”

    http://www.townplanning.gov.bb/content.aspx?c=25


  2. “5. (1) The functions of the Commission are
    […]
    (c) to control, maintain and develop the public parks, public gardens and beaches of Barbados;”

    ““beach” includes the land adjoining the foreshore of Barbados and extending not more than 33 metres beyond the landward limit of the foreshore;”

    National Conservation Commission Act CAP 393 http://extwprlegs1.fao.org/docs/pdf/bar19684.pdf


  3. There is a serious regulatory problem in Barbados over control of beaches. The Town and Country Planning regulations are in conflict with National Conservation Commission Act. The NCC Act gives the NCC control over the beach up to 33 metres from the mean highwater mark, while Town and Country Planning allows fences only 9.14 metres from the highwater mark.

    The Hon. Trevor Prescod JP M.P. is the Minister of the Environment and National Beautification and he has jurisdiction over the NCC. How do we get him onside to make the NCC take this fence down?


  4. This is Barbados Peter.
    The question is not ‘What are the rules…?”
    It is…
    Who are the players?
    Who is the property owner?
    Who are the Commissioners?
    Who is on the NCC Board?
    …etc


  5. I thought I heard a reference to other properties with fences along the beach, where is the beach? Will there be a similar protest a la The Crane?


  6. Another toothy item for PLT to spout his beach rhetoric. PLT needs to wake up, dollars TALK and regulations WALK.


  7. There are buildings on the west coast that got TCP approval to build 9.14 metres from the highwater mark.

    There was a guard wall at Greensleeves that was almost in the sea. The owner was a billionaire who seemed to be able to buy anything he wanted in Barbados.


  8. @Bush Tea August 30, 2018 8:07 AM
    “The question is […] Who are the players?”
    +++++++++++
    Absolutely true. Of course the NCC website is of no use whatsoever and gives no clue about NCC leadership and Board. That is why I asked for your deep local knowledge about how to influence Minister Prescod.


    • The sessions held recently with stakeholders to gather feedback to modernize the TP laws is not meant to address the issue manifesting yet again highlighted here?


  9. The most popular tune on the island, is an instrumental, by the Trubadours International. The name of the tune is “Talk” or “Talking”
    We can all apply our own lyrics.
    Music / chart experts predict it will be the on top of the charts for the next X thousand years.


  10. David@BU, Now seems as good a time as any for BU to write an official letter to the minister and to the CTP identifying the mentioned beach and fences and questioning the legality of same. Further, requesting removal action of same if in breach of building laws of Barbados.

    It is past time, once and for all, that local and foreign beachfront owners realize that Gabby’s “Da Beach Is Mine” has to be respected and taken seriously.

    Posting the progression of correspondence and actions taken could possibly cause those in authority to move with the same alacrity as that displayed toward less powerful property owners.

    You are well aware that if BU does not champion this initiative, the “traditional” media will remain immobile.


    • @Fearplay

      You are too kind. The surrogates from the government, DLP and others monitor the blog. We know that once an issue shows on the BU radar we track it forever until resolved.


  11. Sad that this is happening . Understand that the property owner wants his privacy and security, but this cage spoils the whole appearance of the beach for every other user of the beach . Our shared resource that Bajans have decided should be preserved for all.

    If it were not so how long before whole sections of the coastline become inaccessible to all but the beachfront property owners ?

    Don’t think it’s unreasonable to request that this owner dismantle the cage. If the cage is really necessary to enjoy the property
    then its not such a good location to live anyway, and it may be time to sell up and move to another location that better fits the owners requirements.


  12. There once was a mansion near Glitter Bay. The owner had some Alsatians /German shepherds that used to chase black people who walked on the beach in front of his mansion……until one day a certain big rock marksman persuaded one of the dogs to put his tail between his legs and hop along home to his master.

    From that day onward, the attacks by these dogs ceased.

    Rich people do not want black people on the beach in front of their property.


  13. @ David
    Those sessions were held to come up with impressive sounding shiite laws to impress brass bowls and foreign loaners like the World Bank and the CDB that we are a real real country.
    Everyone else knows the score….


    • @Bush Tea

      There is the reality that Barbados legislation on a comparative basis lags the region. We should agree that the laws should be relevant. Other arguments flow from this position.


  14. @ David who wrote ” The sessions held recently with stakeholders….. ”

    I thought these sessions were to find an excuse to give TCP the green light to approve Hyatt, Sandals and any projects submitted by the privilaged class.

    buh doan mine me an my cynical self.


  15. “Who are the players?
    Who is the property owner?
    Who are the Commissioners?
    Who is on the NCC Board?”

    And who took bribes to allow this clown who cannot do this in his OWN country to encroach on the beach like that.

    PLT..have you noticed that you keep posting the same information over and over, and over about NCC and the powers vested in them to see that this never happens… most recently it was Doyle and his criminal activity up at Crane, now this clown.


  16. @racehrse August 30, 2018 8:55 AM
    “General Manager Keith Neblett- National Conservation Commission”
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    When there was a controversy at the Crane Mr Neblett gave interviews which raised my doubts that he had read the legislation.


  17. @David
    The sessions held recently with stakeholders to gather feedback to modernize the TP laws is not meant to address the issue manifesting yet again highlighted here?
    +++++++++++
    Opposition is easy, its governing that’s hard.


  18. This property owner is no millionaire. He’s very likely renting out the property to wealthy holidaymakers on a short-term basis, and has promised his guests a private beach front. I bet if authorities ran a check we would find that the likes of him aren’t paying VAT of income taxes locally – except maybe for the dog’s license !!


  19. Honestly
    If Bushie was in Neblett’s place, the bushman would have resigned quietly RIGHT after baloney took over the Highway cleaning contract and proceeded to keep the highway clean on an ongoing basis with about 5 people, when it was always permanently dirty …and then hundreds of jokers arrives intermittently to pretend to clean it….

    Shiite man… what proof do you need ….to understand when you are operating ABOVE your competency…?

    OK Bushie is a whacker expert … 🙂
    but how difficult is it to keep a strip of grass cut….?

    Having said all this….
    What were you saying about reading legislation Peter…?


  20. Accept the reality. There is a hidden clause in every Barbadian statute saying:

    “Applicable to locals, but not to foreign trillionairs and foreign hotel magnates.”


  21. @FearPlay, why is it Bus role to “…. write an official letter to the minister and to the CTP identifying the mentioned beach and fences and questioning the legality of same. Further, requesting removal action of same if in breach of building laws of Barbados.”

    This videographer and the other local residents who have walked and swam in that area for decades, one presumes, should be the activists here filing that grievance.

    We have read and seen where a normal homeowner trying to expand his property and allegedly contravening TP regs had his multistoried dwelling demolished; another his privacy wall knocked over and on and on…surely some neighbour made an original complaint or maybe a TP official saw the variance and acted.

    This owner is either in contravention or he is not…the fence demolished or moved back or it is not….or the process is as corrupt as the money talks confession above!


  22. You see the disrespect in his voice. This is what happens when you put yourself on the ground for people to come from all over the world and walk all over you. Gabby has already put forward a solution to this problem, namely from the first grain of sand belong to Bajans. This would put a stop to this sort of rubbish. As Bajans, we must demand the government put a stop to this nonsense. I will be contacting Trevor Prescod and Mia to demand they legislate Gabby’s proposal.


  23. Tee White,

    You are right HERE.

    The beaches must stay open. It is nearly impossible today to access the beaches at the Platinum Coast when you live inside the country. This policy of “the beach is mine” destroys the quality of life in Barbados.

    The policy of “the beach is mine” also damages the tourism industry since tourists LIKE locals want to go to various beaches instead of sticking to the beach in front of the hotel or to Brownes beach.


  24. Tough luck fellows. Commissiong belly full now. Prescod is a waste of time, good only for wearing faux-African themed shirts. Instead of posting videos of a white man in a cage, detail the issue in writing to the Town and Country Planning Office and copy the correspondence to the Minister responsible for planning (who also happens to be the Prime Minister). However I will not be surprised if nothing is done.


  25. It never ends just gets worse.
    One evening when I lived in Maxwell Coast Road, we were having rough seas. I went on the beach and stood watching the waves hurl to the shore. Within less than five minutes I heard a man shouting, I looked to my right, where there was a pink house about 30 feet away, The man was waving his hand and saying “leave, get away from there, getaway. ” I ignored him. He shouted even louder “leave, leave or I will call the police for you gettaway.”
    I thought about ignoring him further- this was the beach I frequented almost daily with no other objectives than to relax, enjoy and watch the sun set.

    Then my mind rushed across a young man I had met. He said one evening he was relaxing on the beach after exercising. A man in a nearby house told him to leave. He did not move or answer. Soon the police arrived, they said they had a complaint from the man – he was loitering and disturbing the peace. He told the police why he was there and that he always came there after exercising. His explanations fell on deaf ears.They took him away.
    A judge, also not believing, sent him to the Green Gates for psychiatric evaluation and observation – his story was also not believed here. He said he became so scared after no one listened to him that he could not speak. After when he found his voice he screamed loudly and cried incessantly. He was put in a straight jacket and heavily medicated to the point where he was almost comatose. He said it took a while for him to accept the fact that he was a nobody in the eyes of the law and the man who had called the police for him, along with the Judge and the others at the hospital. He added that when he got out six months later he never went on another beach or exercised again. He was at the time we spoke in his early 20’s. Sad!!

    This young man, had not only represented Barbados at a World Competition in the U.K,but had won.
    Kudos to Gabby for this one of his many social commentary classics.
    The question remains- d beach belong to we or to those non-nationals with lots of money who buy/manage property here?
    Yes, Sir Wiley C. “Money talks!” Every time. $$$$$$$$$$$


  26. “32. Any observations or measurements to determine the high water mark shall be made at the time of any ordinary high tide occurring on the sixth, seventh or eighth days before or after the day of a full moon.”
    —Coastal Zone Management Act CAP 394

    The last full moon was August 26th. This means that the soonest days to measure where the high-water mark is relative to Mr Jones’s property on Brighton Beach are September 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. High tides on each of these days are shown at https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Bridgetown-Barbados/forecasts/latest/six_day

    Note that the night time high tides are a bit higher than the morning high tides. How many of us are going to go to the beach to document exactly how far back from the high-water mark Mr. Jones has built his fence?


  27. Hey David
    Didn’t someone post about boulders being placed at Heywoods? What’s going on did you investigate?


  28. Gabby thought that he was dealing with PEOPLE when he proclaimed his proud pronouncement.
    The beach would DEFINITELY belong to us if we were people….

    …but then again, so would the banks, the supermarkets, the telephone company, the power company, the insurance companies and the damn hotels.

    Not a shiite BELONGS to us – because brass bowls don’t understand anything about OWNERSHIP and social development.
    Brass bowls are adept at takin in piss…. it is what BBs do…

    Step one:
    Stop being brass bowls….

    BTW Ms Green…
    This is how wars start….
    Like if that young man was related to Bushie … or even a friend…. or perhaps just known to the bushman…. a big donkeyed war could have ensued …with serious casualties…

    This is why JUSTICE is the single most valuable asset in a society.


  29. Amm that fence should be no problem
    Talk to George Payne and Dale Marshalll
    Dem would take down that fence with out a problem and own the whole lot too
    Wunna mek sport


  30. “A judge, also not believing, sent him to the Green Gates for psychiatric evaluation and observation – his story was also not believed here. He said he became so scared after no one listened to him that he could not speak. ”

    So typical of the nastiness that goes on in Barbados..


  31. I have a question, if the beach is considered a private beach for all intents and purposes; thus the locals cannot dare trespass without being confronted by the land and beach owner or by his agents. In this case a wire fence et al.

    In the case when mother nature via tides and sea currents decide to remove the beach via sea erosion etc, and there is no beach for all intents and purposes, Will or does the CZMU or the respective Govt. agency that is usually a taxpayer financed entity(unless we planning a BUC “beach users contribution”) be charged with beach RE-building that same area of beach that the local taxpayers are “banned” or better yet “denied” access to?

    As gabby penned in the song Jack. “I hope the sea carr wey all the sand”. In that case we will see if “da beach is mine(for all and sundry) or is that beach is “their” only for the private owner?

    Just asking?


  32. Barbados Wall of Shame, a white British expat built a house in the back of Chapel Gap,St. James. She commissioned the placing of boulders in and along a watercourse between Chapel Gap and Clarkes Road, St. James and built an illegal private road, thereafter, Clarkes Rd, where the Black low working Class Barbadians resides became the watercourse


  33. @Hal Austin August 30, 2018 2:41 PM
    Commissiong has been effectively defanged by giving him a post in the BLP government. It is an indictment of the local bar association that there is no other lawyer apparently prepared to act in the public interest without a paycheck.


  34. This will cause a commotion. Does the land or beach owner pay “land lax” for “annexed(Crimea Russia styled)”

    if they are claiming this as private beach property then i sure hope they are up to date with land tax contributions?

    BRA we need to see the receipts by this land owner; i sure hope they are not one of the forgiven in the amnesty proposed by the BLP administration? lol


  35. I had a lovely lunch break on Brighton Beach. Mr. Jones has extended his fenced area by about 12 feet further towards the ocean than his neighbors on either side. They now say, apparently, that they will follow suit and extend their fenced areas to match his encroachment.


  36. @ WARU August 30, 2018 2:48 PM

    Since this is a one term government, Commissiong will soon be back..

    But u cant be serious? back to do what; who will believe his creds? Maybe back in time retire from the ……


  37. PLT,

    Agree. It is a cultural thing. Pro bono work is a key to all trainee lawyers, both sides of the Atlantic. For starters, it is one way of getting experience; and for another, it brings justice to those least able to afford high legal fees. I am disappointed, but not surprised.
    When you remember that Caribbean lawyers were the founders of law centres in the UK (Rudi Narayan, et al|), at a time when the police were pressuring the black community, it shows that the thinking can be there. Why aren’t trade unions taking up the slack? The fault lies in the materialism of Barbadian culture.


  38. Hal you asking for Commissiong? Dont hold your breath. I thought after Gabby’s song this was over.
    Bajans can gol on Brass Tadks and complain about everything under the sun but I bet you no one is going to utter a word. You said it best. “Barbados is a failed state”.


  39. ” no gate, fence, wall or other means of enclosure shall be erected closer than thirty feet 9.14m (30ft.) from the High Water Mark.”

    Did the property owner adhere to Town Planning law ?


  40. “But u cant be serious? back to do what; who will believe his creds? Maybe back in time retire from the ……”

    I did not say anyone will believe a word he says when he comes back..lol


  41. WARU August 30, 2018 3:48 PM

    I am sure he will have his believers; even the devil i hell has his believers unfortunately. lol


  42. @Grey Jay August 30, 2018 3:34 PM
    “Did the property owner adhere to Town Planning law?”
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Probably; subject to an accurate survey. But the question is whether he is in compliance with the National Conservation Commission Act, which states in part:

    “5. (1) The functions of the Commission are
    […]
    (c) to control, maintain and develop the […] beaches of Barbados;”
    […]
    ““beach” includes the land adjoining the foreshore of Barbados and extending not more than 33 metres beyond the landward limit of the foreshore;”

    National Conservation Commission Act CAP 393 http://extwprlegs1.fao.org/docs/pdf/bar19684.pdf


  43. I think the time has come to change the law and stop using the ” High water mark ” as a boundary.

    Surely the braniacs and maguffees with their multiple degrees and certificates can suggest a way to determine

    boundaries and lot lines.

    From November 30th 2018 to November 30th 2019 all beach front property will be surveyed and the seaside lot line will be determined using GPS locations.


  44. @Ping Pong August 30, 2018 3:54 PM
    Powerful people, Black or White, act with impunity because they can get away things even if they act in a grey area. Those of us without power need to use words to recruit enough of us so that we attain a critical mass to wield enough power. So, Ping Pong, which side are you on??


  45. Talk to. George and Dale those two would show wunna talking heads how to take down the fence and secure and own the land
    Wunna meking nuff mock sport


  46. @ Ping Pong August 30, 2018 3:54 PM

    It this why they call it a “talk shop” and that “talk is cheap” and “when money talks all including the the deaf pay attention”?


  47. @ peterlawrencethompson,

    TCP and NCC lawyers managers and planners need to develop a plan to revise the laws and eliminatenconfusion.

    From TCP website http://www.townplanning.gov.bb/content.aspx?c=25&s=beach

    ” What about building on the coast?

    No structure should be sited closer than 30.5m (100ft) from the High Water Mark or in the case of a cliff frontage, 9.14 m (30ft) from the most landward undercut of the cliff.

    In addtion, no gate, fence, wall or other means of enclosure shall be erected closer than thrity feet 9.14m (30ft.) from the High Water Mark or 3.0m (10ft.) from the most landward undercut of the cliff.

    In cases where development involves beach land a current certified surveyor’s plot, not more than two (2) years, must be submitted with the application.


  48. Different day, same shit. Some politician will come along with a bunch of platitudes and we will be back here in six months.

    To those who had confidence in any politician, “Hope springs Eternal”


  49. @peterlawrencethompson August 30, 2018 2:57 PM

    It’s a question of the neighbours keeping up with the JONES.

    “But the question is whether he is in compliance with the National Conservation Commission Act”
    BNC Act is nothing more than toilet paper floating on Worthing Beach, speaking of Worthing Beach, THE BEACH IS MINE, ha, ha.

    PLT does a lot of complaining, no action though which is typical of Barbadians. When the likes of PPT wake up, if ever, it’s going to be too late, if it’s not already too late. Corruption in the GOB is endemic and probably irrreversable. Latest BLP government blowing lots of hot air but little substance.


  50. @Wily Coyote August 30, 2018 4:33 PM
    I’ve done no complaining at all… I’ve simply been pointing to relevant legislation, asking questions, and asking other people’s opinions.


  51. Since independence the prime minister has been the minister under which the town and country planning department has come under. That we still do not know if our beaches are opened to the public is another example of state failure.


  52. What compliance. No body in the upper echelons of barbados society comply to any rule of law

    Ask George Payne and Dale Marshall
    Wunna mekkng nuff spirtt


  53. Pure mock sport in Bimshire. Why do we allow these foreigners to come into our country and impose their will on us? Hal, forget about Dave the communist coming to the rescue. How much planning and organisation does it take for a couple of hundred bajans to hire a JCB and demolish all of those barriers that are located on this section of the beach?

    Once these structures are demolished in full sight of the owners the dye would have been set. Might will overcome law, whilst providing conclusive prove that the law has its limitations.

    What is it that holds us back as a people to say “not in my back yard”. What a scurrilous, mendicant and a feeble-minded bunch of people we have residing in Barbados. A people who are gripped by fear and apathy in equal measures.

    This story coincides with today’s news that foreign companies were mistreating their Barbadian workforce.


  54. Whilst you are at it boys take a good look at how Boko Haram was formed. Can we make a case for a similar domestic organisation rising in Barbados? In its earliest formation, Boko Haram, defended the interests of its local citizens.


  55. WUNNAH HAVE BEEN TALKING ALL DAY

    IS THE FENCE STILL UP?
    WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DONE TO TAKE DOWN THIS OFFENSIVE FENCE BESIDE TALK?
    WHAT WILL BE DONE TOMORROW…OR THE NEXT DAY….OR THE NEXT…BESIDE TALK?


  56. Talking |Loud,

    I am trying to stay on the right side of the law. But as you say, the fear of Bajans is that the New Barbadians and many of the traditional whites are heavily armed and may inflict violence on them. It is basically cowardice. Bajans can talk a lot but they fear any violent outcomes. If the state fails, and it has, ordinary people have the right to march on these foreigners and remove them with their feet not touching the ground. Bajans get aggressive with each other but run away with their tails between their legs when faced with foreigners or white people.
    Do you remember two recent incidents: the wife of a wealthy man walking in to a black woman’s boutique, accompanied by thugs, and dumping rubbish on the floor. In the real world that woman and her goons should have been given a good thrashing. And the other, a white woman went missing and a posse of thugs, no doubt armed, went in search of her. They too should have been ambushed and sorted out. They could not do that in the Asian or Jewish communities.
    However, I believe in the rule of law and the state has a duty to step in and resolve these rows


    • ‘Lady’ Mary-Anne Williams is it really you?
      Posted on December 28, 2013 by David 531 comments

      Submitted by the Owner Hooliganism, Bullying, Intimidation, Moral Decay All of the above, in my opinion aptly describe an experience I had recently. I remember in my youth and even to this day hearing persons muse about the fact that Barbadians are a docile people. One of the favourite things we like to say in times of despair is “if
      https://barbadosunderground.net/2013/12/28/lady-mary-anne-williams-is-it-really-you/


  57. @ Hal,

    I hear what you are saying. Do you believe that the government are on the side of the people?

    A new’s story broke this morning from South Africa. Take a look at how this incident was created and what reprisals were taken.

    Sadly, the only lesson that these “Johnny-come-lately-foreigners” will understand is that they would be on the receiving end of “a bloody good hiding” should they dare to act against the interests of the Bajan population. The great GP is right in his above views.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45354977


  58. No real opposition; country on a begging spree; activism basically absent; all the fancy talk is now finished and the gates are going up. Not a word from the Minister of Home Affairs or the MPfor the area- votes done count ears missing……..


    • @William

      There was Cabinet meeting today, we are hoping that this matter was mentioned and will be addressed later. Prescod is not known to suffer this kind of thing gladly.


  59. @ David
    I know Comrade Prescod, I honestly agree with you. Let’s wait and see. Comrade Glenroy Straughn and I had similar battles trying to defend beach vendors almost thirty years ago.
    We need to put a stop to this nonsense immediately.


  60. “Prescod is not known to suffer this kind of thing gladly.” Who the eff cares? Wuh he going do? Tek the Israel Lovell drummers down there and beat de bongos till the Jones run away screaming?!

    @PLT, I am quite poor and powerless. Am I not on BU?! I am tired of being powerless and supporting a losing side! So why not support the rich and powerful even if they would piss on me given a chance at least I am not deluding myself that I matter but hey don’t let me rain on the parade!

    I would bet that not one person who is bothered by this fence has brought it to the attention of the authorities i.e T&CP office or the NCC. It’s easier to moan on Facebook and BU.

    Since I made my tongue-in-cheek post there have been 20 posts, most confirming that we are just full of hot stale air!


  61. Both governments were and are all useless jokers allowing a bunch of white boy bullies to do as they like on the island for the last 52 years…..where is the self awareness and self respect…all these government ministers and lawyers know to do is thief and mostly only from their own people.


  62. @ Hants August 30, 2018 3:53 PM

    The problem may not that we switched to GPS landmarks, the issue may be that we have not switch the lawyers or the enforcers?


  63. @Hants August 30, 2018 8:29 AM “There was a guard wall at Greensleeves that was almost in the sea. The owner was a billionaire who seemed to be able to buy anything he wanted in Barbados.”

    Isn’t Greensleeves on the land side? Not the seaside?


  64. The National Conservation Commission has advised the public that Heywoods Beach (North), St. Peter, will be temporarily closed until Saturday, December 15.


    • Thanks Hants!

      Looks like Sargeant got his answer. There is waterfront work being done by a contractor commission by the NCC.


  65. Did the useless police in Barbados ever check this mansion for drugs like they chase down their own people for every marijuana leaf and seed.

    The wealthy use heroine, cocaine etc…drugs that can never be legalized…right in Barbados …so when the wife was held at the US Embassy in UK with drugs.heroine, cicainr ..did the nuisance drug squad in Barbados search their mansion…I bet not..the coward wusses only know how to harass and lock up their own people.


  66. @ Ms. Peggy Green

    I read what you said and i quote

    “…A judge, also not believing, sent him to the Green Gates for psychiatric evaluation and observation – his story was also not believed here. He said he became so scared after no one listened to him that he could not speak…”

    Let the ole man talk to you a second about the phenomenon of the terrorist and the inadvertent radicalization of a clean skin jihadist

    Your response is going to be like many others here “what the badword…” But I have a purpose albeit a dual one, and I will share it with you.

    When Islamic men are incarcerated in the populations of 1st word countries many are beaten and raped.

    Beating is “psychologically acceptable” for any man. We sit and plot revenge. And sometimes get beaten again.

    Raping IS NOT and culturally this is anathema for such individuals and breeds a venomous hatred against the societies these guys find themselves in.

    If an examination is made of these specific examples it will be found that the radicalisation of certain of these persons has taken on a specific profiling to attract the silently venomous…

    That said let me continue.

    That young man is perfect material for radicalization

    He was “raped” by this system and has every right to go to Marl Hole to the nearest “***”, engage the services of Smith & Wesson as his attorneys and Judge and exact a poor man’s justice.

    THEY know who then can do that to.

    IF THAT HAD BEEN THIS OLE MAN I WOULD NOT BE HERE WRITING THIS DRIVEL BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE *** THE HOMEOWNER WHO CALLED THE POLICE AND THE ZEALOUS JUDGE.

    IF YOU TAKE WHAT IS MINE, LIKE THE JIHADIST YOU CAN BET I WILL TAKE WHAT IS YOURS.

    And if you doubt me just ask Mariposa and she will tell you that de ole man ent lie.

    So there we have it.

    A word to the wise is sufficient.

    I got the grandson to create a Facebook account so de ole man got de grandson composing a 60 minutes video for the Ermine Atwell family members.

    It will take some time BUT …once it is finished…they can start to publicize the affair with a different more ammmmmm emotive video


  67. @ Peter Lawrence Thompson

    Do you have a measuring tape?

    Do you have a can of red Kevlar spray paint?

    Take said spray can and go to that referenced Beach, or any offending beach in Barbados, and measure that permitted distance and show video of the infraction.

    Take pictures too of the same measured distances as eell as pictures of the property, and send de ole man a link to those uploads via the confidential exchange on BU

    Not Dropbox folder items though.

    They must be displayed on your site and permit for screenshotting software to “record” the screen.

    That is because the actual picture permit trojans namely ssh tunneling commands to be effected on receiving machines

    heheheheh that technical note is not for you Peter. The party knows who they are.

    De fellows waiting pun wunna doah, try a ting nuh?

    Unlike Barbados where the Rule of Law is NOT OBSERVED unauthorized computer access is a crime punishable under Computer Fraud and Abuse Act 28 USC . 1029

    GIVEN the incident with the erstwhile Honourable Pornville AND THE FACT THAT WUNNA FELLERS IS BIG BOYS why not try a ting nuh?


  68. Forgot to mention that it is the United States Secret Service fellers who do effect thus type of action and these fellers ore serious than Donvilles DOJ crew.

    Do a ting nuh?

    Steupseee you are enemies to the people and will either cease in these practices or be exposed by the mightiest country in the world AFTER RUSSIA? Heheheheh cause it is said Putin has A. Dump in his back pocket.

    Stick to the plan of empowering BAJANS and not spying on us AND ALL WILL BE WELL.

    Trust me on this one, I have not been wrong on anything so far and I gain nothing by lying with the shadows of the evening gathering around do I?


  69. Talking |Loud,

    No. I do not believe the BLP or DLP governments are ever on the side of the people. They see protests as being a nuisance. They are on the side of the dollar.
    On the other matter, you know and I know that a lot of these foreigners come to the Caribbean and get away with murder, things they could not do at home.


  70. @ Mr. Hal Austin

    Hal, you may recall riding in a Rocklyn Bus with the conductor spanning the back wheel to take the fares of passengers in the 3 back rows (two of which faced each other)

    Both the driver and the passengers were disposed to tell an conductor to come in their row when the bus was approaching a narrow walled area AND HE WOULD LISTEN!

    These politicians remind me of the newer ZR rabble who when you tell the conductor that he is dangling dangerously from the overpacked ZM in the starwell, HE BUSES YOU YUH FADDAH AND YOUR MUDDAH badword as is recorded gy Dr Duguid in the house of assembly not too long ago.

    Small minded men and women DO NOT UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.

    Have you ever attended a town hall consultation in Barbados?

    From the time you take the microphone you are seen as the enemy!!!

    And while you say that “protests are a nuisance” de ole man would say that “merely opening your mouth is seen as dissent AND FOR THAT YOU ARE TARGETTED”

    You try it, and you will see that UNLESS YOU HAVE A GOLD SPOON IN YOUR MOUTH, you are heckled by the planted supporters of the administration that is represented on the podium AND THE CHAIRMEN (Mao) always smile and conveniently do not call anyone to order during the exchange


  71. As a people we have to “eat” a different food.

    So that when you come fact to face with this racism FOR TO CALL IT ANYTHING ELSE IS PURE IDIOCY, that we are able to recognise it for what it is.

    Here is some of the “food” that de ole man advises you to “eat”


  72. @ pieceuhderockyeahright,

    Why don’t you suggest a better way to delineate beach front property than using a ” High water mark ” ?


  73. @Hants the best way to delineate beach front property is to use Gabby’s suggestion: the first grain of sand belong to Barbados and Bajans. End of story. Everything will be clear after that.


  74. Piece,

    I travelled on Trotman’s buses and Harold ‘Zeek’ Tudor’s garage was in the Ivy (it is still there). So I had a good experience of the buses before the Transport Board was created. We used to ‘hop’ buses. I knew about the buses before Google came along.


  75. I want you all to know the white racist in the video sent corrupt Barbados Police earlier today to the young lady’s house who recorded the Beach Fence video and posted on Facebook that he was threatened by her.


  76. The young woman who filmed the video has stated that the man in question who has the beach enclosed sent the police for her stating that she has threatened him. I told her to file a complaint with the police and to provide them with a copy of the video.
    It is time for all to take action. This bold face man not only has the audacity to enclose the beach beyond the high water mark but to call the police with a set of lies that he was threatened. He is trying to play the role of victim.


  77. Gotta admire dem whiteys! Dem doan talk, dem does do! De fence still up and even de neighbors plan to extend dem own fence too and de police gone fuh de girl dat film de fence. Imagine I once witness a robbery in progress and I call de police and they tell they ain’t got no vehicle and call back later but a whitey could tell de police he feel threatened and brapps dey gone to arrest the woman! Wuhlah murdah, is plenty talk in de rumshop.

    Anyways PLT I wid wunnh in dis talking ting cause the whiteys ain’t got no use fuh me as I poor and powerless. Any fried chicken sharing cause you know we like we belly bad?


  78. These foreign land owners will always be with us as they find that they have more privileges and rights in these islands than they would have in their own homeland.

    Our docility silences us and leads to inaction. Our predominantly Black constabulary are used to remind us that others have greater rights than us; they are used to silence the few sheep who dare to bleat.


  79. I now provide a translation of PLT statistics and laws.

    Take off your shoes and socks; roll up your pant above the knees and keep a part of your body in contact with your body at all time. The beach is any land between you and the body of water.


  80. Hehe
    🙂
    Take off your shoes and socks; roll up your pant above the knees and keep a part of your body in contact with the WATER at all times. The beach is any land between you and the body of water.


  81. @ Brother Hants

    you asked the question and I quote “…Why don’t you suggest a better way to delineate beach front property than using a ” High water mark ” ?…”

    I learnt this about 40 nuff years ago during a class introducing the Systeme Internationale.

    “… In ancient times, the body ruled when it came to measuring. The length of a foot, the width of a finger, and the distance of a step were all accepted measurements.

    Inch: At first an inch was the width of a man’s thumb. In the 14th century, King Edward II of England ruled that 1 inch equalled 3 grains of barley placed end to end lengthwise…”

    With each change of the king the measuement of the day changed so the small hands Donald Trunk would have similar challenges regarding the amount of land he could claim as King.

    Now armed with that detail you would be right to ask what de badword de ole man is talking about?

    But bear with me my brother i getting there

    De old man would change the rules of the town and country planning for the entire island

    I would create a “SWATHE” a virtual band that would allocate the measurement of the widest beach in barbados TO ALL BEACH FRON PROPERTY and then deed the virtual usage of the part of existing structures in the SWATHE to owners at 2018 ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.

    IF such SWATHE IS 50 feet wide from the hightide then whatever property that you have between 50 foot and the sea IS TEMPORARILY ALLOCATED TO YOU and your heirs for a long as I the owner of Crown Lands so deem fit.

    As to that finger thingy and its connection

    I would go to the centre of the road that is closest to the coast in any area of barbados and let beach owners take out their “appendages” if male, or reveal them IF FEMALE and determine the amount of land that is theirs by virtue of the distance that they are able to project their urine while being observed by other bajans on TV streamed by Mr Charles Jong regionally.

    You think that would solve the problem heheheheheh cause fellers like Pain and Teets would not want all Barbados to see their “shortcomings” heheheheheheh and as we get older you dun know that we cant even pee one foot away from our bodies heheheheheheh


    • The more pertinent question is why was there the hullabaloo against Doyle and the Crane compared to this one?

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