One should reasonably expect the extent to which successive governments have been unable to address findings of malfeasance and or flouting of the financial rules of government detailed in Auditor General Reports will be addressed by Prime Minister Mia Mottley on Sunday. David Ellis please take note, we will be watching!
2017 Auditor General Report Details Perennial Tale
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130 responses to “2017 Auditor General Report Details Perennial Tale”
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Expect Mia regurgitating answer to be that it was the fault of past govt that barbados debt is high
More Piss poor propaganda and fake excuses to boot
That chinese guy must have spent long sleepless nights figuring and preparing what is the best political orchestrated messaging that Mia can send to the people
For certain the past weeks of more taxes are giving the people belly hurt
But the question one that she should be asked is how is she going to cut govt spending as a phase 2 as stated in the IMF report
In one month the blp spin doctors and her ministers have also been caught up in the web of lies and deceit. -
Part of the problem as I see it, the present government and yardfowls are afraid to pursue the thieves iin the exgovernment and in the minority community.., the reason being…they are afraid they get caught stealing from treasury and pension fund and prosecuted after they are kicked to the curb in 5 years…by the electorate…but commonsense dictates that they should have no such problems unless they plan to steal and continue to work with the minority Gang of Thieves to disenfranchise the majority population as has been the norm, intent and usual practice of both useless governments for decades now.
As Nitwit Kellman is outlining maybe without even realizing it because that is who, he is, he is sure their own integrity legislation will return to bite them, which means he is sure they will tief too.
In other words…if ya are NOT a thief…ya need not worry about locking up who stole. .
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Can we agree that under both main political parties read BLP and DLP we have seen a starving of resources of the Auditor General’s officer that has constrained that office to do the job? Can we also agree that in order for evidence of wrongdoing to be prosecuted we have to see drastic changes to the existing legislation and process?
The AG lays his report in parliament required by law and the Public Accounts Committee is suppose to investigate finding and make recommendations for further action. We all know the story that has dogged the workings of the PAC through successive governments. We have to discuss what are the changes requred to address flouting of the financial rules which then create a path to prosecuting wrongdoers. It is the process stupid.
Davis Ellis has the opportunity to craft a question for PM Mottley this afternoon to determine what ‘different’ approach will her government take to address issues raised in the AG’s report. She was off to a good start regarding the NHC special audit matter, however, we witnessed how even the public servants frustrated the process, without being disciplined! Correction, Napoleon Young was fired but this is not enough.
We should stop the immature squabbling – difficult for some – and focus on the bigger picture.
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It is a prime minister’s press conference in near prime time, it will be carried by all the major radio stations, GIS, BLP Facebook etc. The blogmaster will create a separate blog around the hour to ensure the BU community have their say in a controlled space.
It is refreshing to have the prime minister hold a press conference.
#babysteps
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It would be refreshing to hear if these three words are foremost and properly addressed in the discourse of questions and answers
These three words being
Transparency
Accountability
Truth
So far in all other PR stunts the media had limited access to asking questions and the folly of all of it that the ministers answers were all a digusting display of having a brain detached of truthfulness
As i said i would not be listening to this laff off spectacle that David Ellis would be displaying later today.
What hope can Mia bring to this country after unilaterally defaulting on govt debt is what most barbadians should want to know
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The thing about it, those are not the only issues negatively impacting the office of the auditor general..or the country……in his opening he outlines how is office is practically prevented from doing a thorough job because of lack of trained staff, the refusal of government to hire staff in a timely fashion or even advertise the positions and posts available…among other stagnating issues he mentioned.
Now I expect the clowns to jump in and say that none of this has been deliberate on the part of both governments for all the years the auditor general has been putting these issues in his reports…people like myself are too stupid to understand what we read..
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“This was one of the reasons ole man was suggesting that if The new Prime Minister was serious about her integrity Legislation regime the Office of the Auditor General would be part of that mechanism….”
PUDRYR
Exactly!!!!
This is a sane response, rather than the silly, tired rhetoric about slaves and minorities.
Recently, a clerical officer at the “Mental Hospital” was able to exploit the weaknesses in that hospital’s accounting system, to steal over $1M, for which he was jailed for 10 years (I write under correction).
There were several instances where certain NIS employees were able to exploit the weak cheque systems in that department and stole thousands of $$$.
On several occasions the Auditor General, in his report, criticized the then Inland Revenue’s accounting system. Yet I know of a case where a guy exploited the system to steal over $750,000. Fortunately for him, he was able to “skip” the country.
The system should be one which epowers the Auditor General, thereby allowing his office to further investigate these financial irregularities and hold the perpetrators responsible.
This is where protection of “whistle blowers” becomes a reality. It will allow civil servants to reveal the names of statutory board members and politicians who requested them to “bend” the financial rules, awarding of contracts and procurement procedures to accommodate the friends of the “political class” and those that finance political campaigns.
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As I said..the yardfowls will jump out to confuse themselves….stealing under a WEAK or STRONG system is still stealing and for which all thieves in and out of government should be punished…if the system is weak…ALLl thieves will line up…in and out of government, minorities included, but don’t expect the slave minded to understand that..
If the system is strong and impenetrable…only the most daring thieves would take that change for the thrill or what other motivation that drives them..
A weak system that was pointed out to be weak for decades is not a challenge…it is an opportunity well worth exploiting and it has been for decades…despite all the hollering and warnings of the auditor general..
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If the system is strong and impenetrable…only the most daring thieves would take that CHANCE for the thrill or what other motivation that drives them..
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The Public Accounts Committee is another sham. In it’s present format, the Opposition Leader becomes the Chairman and is expected to investigate financial irregularities of their administration when it was in “office.” Does this make sense?
I believe the PAC should be an independent body.
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It is a known fact that some of these conspiracy theorists are jackasses that believe they know and MUST comment on everything, without rational thought.
The Rolerick Hinds scenario, where they “jumped out to confuse themselves” readily comes to mind.
By the way…..I thought these people stopped reading certain contributions?
I’m surprised they did not scroll pass mine.
Hehehe
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Yours is worth a read today, to see how hypocritical ya are…I chose my times to read certain people’s posts…make no mistake, I scroll past most of yours, but this is too good to scroll past…..exposing ya own hypocrisy…priceless, I don’t get to enjoy that every day and wont miss highlighting it for the world.
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Yeah…I am going to take people who do not even know they are still legally slaves seriously, because they believe in lying deceitful governments and politicians…
.and dont form and voice my own opinions…..just watch me trying to be just like you when I grow up.
Many of us warned yall and got cussed for our trouble…but it is plain to see ya are incapable of learning anything…
Piece just got cussed for outlining the discrepancies in the integrity legislation fines yall were all over him for a whole week. ..and ya expect me to be just like you…well ok then….watch muh nuh.
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Now look at that two blp yardfowls redwashing each other
Makes for a barell of laughs
But would not expect different after all Mia set the space with her barrage of lies
Now expectations running high and the party support which gave her the 30-0 win is showing cracks and splits in the seam
Wuhloss starting with the NUPW and now the blpyardfowls supporters on BU###::###:redwashtimealloveragain
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he won the constituency three times and lost twice since 1999.
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/176489/joe-drops-bees
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Perhaps you may want to indicate my hypocrisy.
There is no one on this forum who is more hypocritical than you are. When your shortcomings are highlighted, as in the case of the Rolerick Hinds scenario, you always backtrack and try to lie your way out of the situation, then you follow up with a few silly childish insults and use multiple posts to rant on and on and on. And as little girls do, you must have the last word. So take the opportunity.
It is clear that you are an angry lonely old woman who seems not to get enough sleep and can hardly wait until day break to log on to BU to post your daily dose of hate, which has now become tired. When you do not have anything of value to add, you resort to “cutting and pasting” irrelevant articles.
Similarly, I hardly ever read anything you post, because your contributions always begin and end the same way. In other words, when one reads ONE of your contributions, you read them all.
I’ll leave you to rant and rave and display your ignorance for all in this forum to see (which is known by now).
Have a blessed and wonderful Sunday.
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On page 99 the Auditor General reminds government that under the Constitution his office is solely authorized to audit government departments and agencies yet private auditors were contracted to perform the job. The blogmaster is curious why resources would be allocated to pay private auditors instead of beefing up resources at the AG’s office.
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It is interesting on page 102 the accounts for BNTCL were completed up to 2017. Curious why the accounts of the central bank of Barbados is oompleted only up to 2016.
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We can not give these crooks, liars, and scumbags more time to take, To much long talk and no Action. Some people just love to post on BU without the focus on these facts, none can ever be a Judge were the law is the concern. Who Else must speak? What else must be shown? What whiteman must show up with PHDs so these Negros can wake up.BFP
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Someone white will have to tell them the time of day before they will believe it Beckles knows them so well, if he had told them they were still legally slaves, they never would have believed him in a thousand years and would have soundly cussed him fir his troubles abd in payment…. but a white professor tells them…ya are legally slaves…. and they all rolled back into their shells and are now mute…not one sound in protest, they don’t even want to think about it let alone face it and put pressure on the Mia government to make the appropriate changes.
Art..ya outta luck, I am back to not reading ya nonsense, there is more important work to be done…I lose interest quickly when there is not enough stimulation..
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Another crack and splitting of ways
Joe Atherly says Hell No ! Not going back to the blp
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David BU
It seems to have become the norm for government departments, especially statutory corporations, to hire external auditors.
For example, years ago, when I worked for the civil service, I attended an inter departmental heads of sections meeting, where we learnt that NAB contracted the services of an accounting firm, Brian F. Griffith & Co. Ltd., to provide the Board with accounting services when the accountant went on leave, as well as providing auditing services for which they were paid over $50,000 for each year.
The Auditor General’s office put an end to that practice.
Some of us understood the rationale behind this move. If you are familiar with the name Brian Griffith, you would know he is the son of Deighton Griffith (of the high school fame) and a known DLP sympathizer. It was clearly a case of sharing the “fatted calf.”
These things occur under both BLP and DLP administrations.
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I noticed even the Turf Club accounts are in question and should be investigated….
…..when a financial system has been weak for decades despite warnings from an auditor general…..and both government deliberately ignore every warning…..disrespect and insult the auditor general and his efforts.
…….ALL THE THIEVES LINE UP.
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On page 110 the politics that pervades our system surfaces even more. The accounts for the NHC are still to be completed (signed off by the AG) dating to 2014 yet we continue to dump taxpayers into this murky pit
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@Artax
Do you now why the AG is not able to put a stop to the practice of outsourcing the audit function of government agencies? This is a compliance issue that should be enforced and does not mean anyone stole money. We need to start to enforce.
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On page 115 only TWO school Deighton Griffith an Daryll Jordan are update.
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“It is interesting on page 102 the accounts for BNTCL were completed up to 2017.”
David BU
With the proposed sale of the oil terminal, the accounts would obviously have to be “up to date.”
On another note, I’m heartbroken and devastated that my contributions will no longer be reada. Wuh, shiite, I en gine eat nuh more either.
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So comments here are suggesting that the thieves lock up the thieves
All this political posturing makes for an early morning laff
The govt promised plenty but cannot deliver on any of its promises
The govt should be locked up all thirty of them for lies and deception
I meaning never in the history of politics have i seen political prostitution so blatantly tossed about and put up for sale and sold to the people as fresh pus**y pound for pound
Now some early morning jac a.sses running around like yardfowls with heads cut off expecting different -
@Artax
it was a tongue in cheek comment. It shows what is possible read the capacity of government agencies to produce up to date financials for the audit general to inspect.
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It’s not like if the money is accounted for…if money is supposed to be recorded in a ledger….financial protocols in any government department in the world and every company in the world…..and its not accounted for…even after decades of the auditor general pleading. ….and for those who can read and understand. …the DEFICITS are clearly outlined. .
So where is the money…???..
I am sure if the auditor general knew where the money was he would tell us instead of reci6rding it as deficits….but that is just me…maybe others know where the money can be located and tell us….and tell the taxpayers and pensioners.
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David BU
I never implied that money was stolen by anyone.
But the Boards of statutory corporations are autonomous in that they conveniently ignore regulations, while believing they have the authority to do so.
Going forward, regulations governing quasi government organizations should be reviewed.
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David BU
Yes, I realized your comment was tongue in cheek.
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@Artax
As someone with accounting training do you agree the AG will report on what is recorded in the ‘general ledger’ and resist speculation? It is up to the PS or person responsible to explain the exceptions noted by the AG? In other words we have scenarios where entries are misposted or not posted at all.
We need to enforce the financial rules, how can the new government make this happen?
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David BU
Yes, I agree.
Government’s financial regulations were updated in 2007 and the accounting system is in compliance with the accepted practices as it relates to government accounting.
Going forward, theses regulations need to be enforced and accounting officers must be held responsible. We cannot continue to have situations where departments are blatantly refusing to prepare up to date financial statements or adhere to requests made by the AG, to present these statements for audit.
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Interestingly, the former inept DLP administration promised to “listen” to the AG and implement systems to give the department more “teeth,” as outlined on pages 46 to 48 of their 2008 manifesto.
Unfortunately, they refused to do anything and the trend continued during the past 10 years under their watch.
I eagerly await to see how this present BLP administration deals with this issue, against the background of they not presenting any definitive policy initiative.
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I am not an economist or an accountant. I have no idea how the government distributes monies, but yet I have a suggestion.
My deficit reduction plan
1. Before the start of the financial year every agency/company/enterprise/school mentioned in the report must submits a detailed and itemized report of planned expenditures expected during the coming year. They can use the expenditure of the past year as their templateGovernment officials would then go through this report with a fine tooth comb. The purpose of this review is to get the requested expenditures below the expected revenues of $2.5 B. Expenditures must be less than expected revenues.
The approved adjusted expenditures are then pass back to the various government with the instructions that a) they must stick to the itemized list, 2) they cannot exceed the approved limits and 3) emergency items must be sent to and approved by an ’emergency committeeThis almost like having a pre-audit. Why audit only after the horse is out of the stall
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Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail. -
*ignore the typos.. it is always amusing how people can ignore the disappearance of millions of dollars but can unerringly spot a typo
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I am not an economist or an accountant. I have no idea how the government distributes monies, but yet I have a suggestion.
My deficit reduction plan
.1. Before the start of the financial year every agency/company/enterprise/school mentioned in the report must submit a detailed and itemized report of planned expenditures expected during the coming year. They can use the expenditures of the past year as their template.2. Government officials would then go through this list of expected expenditures with a fine tooth comb. The purpose of this review is to get the requested expenditures below the expected revenues of $2.5 B. Expenditures must be less than expected revenues.
.3. The approved adjusted expenditures are then passed back to the various agencies with the instructions that a) they must stick to the itemized list, 2) they cannot exceed the approved limits and 3) emergency items (items not on the list) must be sent to and approved by an ’emergency committee
This almost like having a pre-audit. Why audit only after the horse is out of the stall
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Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail. -
“Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail.”
++++++++++The above suggestion deserves to be contemplated.
However, suggestions 1, 2 & 3 are already undertaken when the financial officers prepare the estimates of revenue and expenditure each financial year
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@Artax.
Thanks,
Your comment about 1, 2 and 3 were distressing.
How can we be so far off-course when we have good processes in place, -
Theo
Your idea would work if the govt was not made up of B and D yardfowls
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@ David…Suggestion, Why not share your ideas in the form of Articles even if it is a separate tab on BU for the Betterment of Barbados so more may have the opportunity to See it and participate where the ideas may be discussed and not just go into an email where you do not know where it goes, who is reading it and the Biases they may hold.
Put your ideas in Public view for scrutiny and comment as this one does on BU.
https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/07/13/for-the-good-of-our-country-barbados/
For example if they receive these emails and should they hold certain views they are more than likely to conclude based on their Biases thy may say “we have received 1,542 emails and we have found Three that are credible. Depending e.g. if they are Socialist/ /Capitalist/Crony Capitalist/Marxist/Communist/Dictator Environmentalist / just to name a few.
Because of their Bias the Population of Barbados would never see 1,542 emails. That does not make Sense, let alone being Transparent.
Make these emails Public or even if you say send it to this particular email have them Published on a Website.
If you do not do that you are fooling the people, by wasting their time and energy!
Remember The Intuitive Mind is a Sacred Gift… For Heaven Sake Allow others the Freedom to make their own Choices within Reason and Righteous Laws!!
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@David July 14, 2018 8:30 PM “60 million to Clearwter (Four Seasons)”
I remember good, good when that 60 million went to clearwater, and since I have to pass that way every single day I wondered why they were putting 60 million of the taxpayers money into A BIG BUSHY HOLE at that bottom o University Hill, while I an old age pensioner still have to pay thousands of dollars in income tax every year for the rest of my life, and land tax too, and VAT and whatever else the various governments can conjure up.
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David July 15, 2018 8:53 AM “On page 115 only TWO school Deighton Griffith an Daryll Jordan are update.”
A little birdie told me that the schools’ admin officials have been doing their job in keeping the books up to date, but that the auditors are well connected to the political class, and that Deighton Griffith and Daryll Jordan have different auditors.
Who are the auditors?
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Tell us more Simple Simon, maybe others can learn something.
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@Artax
How is it possible if the AG has been always under resourced/ under staffed?
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TheoGazerts
It goes back to what the AG has been continually highlighting in his reports every year…… there has been a blatant refusal to follow or adhere to government’s financial regulations.
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David BU
The Auditor General’s office has been faced with challenges relative to the lack of an adequate level of auditors.
I am unaware why this continues to be an issue, and unlike the conspiracy theorists, I’m not prepared to say it is a deliberate act by both BLP and DLP administrations to frustrate the efforts of the AG.
The fact that, although the AG’s office is under staffed, they are still able to adequately perform their duties and fulfill their obligations efficiently.
But this should not interpreted as providing an excuse for these inadequacies.
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Theo…good luck trying to get them to stop a system that helps them all tief taxpayer’s and pensioners money and give away the balance to minority thieves who smile in their faces…
All of these frauds got on BU and said repeatedly how many poor ass ministers who had debt collectors and bailiffs chasing them down in 2008 before the election, but all of a sudden since being elected twice and in a 10 year period….many of them are now multimillionaires, with mansions and 6 cars each, foreign bank accounts etc…all on 17,000 a month salaries.
……but yet nobody ain’t tief nothing, no money disappeared….the auditor general is mistaken according to them…and we are not seeing or reading right….still the auditor general is unable to account for all the missing ledger entries…of hundreds of millions that should be accounted for….but is not.
If you mind these jokers…just make sure your money is safe and not in their hands..or ya bust luck and will end up like some of these vulnerable elderly pensioners who do not even get their money because some lowlife in some government department dun tief it.
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