2017 Auditor General Report Details Perennial Tale

One should reasonably expect the extent to which successive governments have been unable to address findings of malfeasance and or flouting of the financial rules of government detailed in Auditor General Reports will be addressed by Prime Minister Mia Mottley on Sunday. David Ellis please take note, we will be watching!

Auditor General Report 2017

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  • On page 115 only TWO school Deighton Griffith an Daryll Jordan are update.

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  • “It is interesting on page 102 the accounts for BNTCL were completed up to 2017.”

    David BU

    With the proposed sale of the oil terminal, the accounts would obviously have to be “up to date.”

    On another note, I’m heartbroken and devastated that my contributions will no longer be reada. Wuh, shiite, I en gine eat nuh more either.

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  • So comments here are suggesting that the thieves lock up the thieves

    All this political posturing makes for an early morning laff
    The govt promised plenty but cannot deliver on any of its promises
    The govt should be locked up all thirty of them for lies and deception
    I meaning never in the history of politics have i seen political prostitution so blatantly tossed about and put up for sale and sold to the people as fresh pus**y pound for pound
    Now some early morning jac a.sses running around like yardfowls with heads cut off expecting different

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  • @Artax

    it was a tongue in cheek comment. It shows what is possible read the capacity of government agencies to produce up to date financials for the audit general to inspect.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    It’s not like if the money is accounted for…if money is supposed to be recorded in a ledger….financial protocols in any government department in the world and every company in the world…..and its not accounted for…even after decades of the auditor general pleading. ….and for those who can read and understand. …the DEFICITS are clearly outlined. .

    So where is the money…???..

    I am sure if the auditor general knew where the money was he would tell us instead of reci6rding it as deficits….but that is just me…maybe others know where the money can be located and tell us….and tell the taxpayers and pensioners.

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  • David BU

    I never implied that money was stolen by anyone.

    But the Boards of statutory corporations are autonomous in that they conveniently ignore regulations, while believing they have the authority to do so.

    Going forward, regulations governing quasi government organizations should be reviewed.

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  • David BU

    Yes, I realized your comment was tongue in cheek.

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  • @Artax

    As someone with accounting training do you agree the AG will report on what is recorded in the ‘general ledger’ and resist speculation? It is up to the PS or person responsible to explain the exceptions noted by the AG? In other words we have scenarios where entries are misposted or not posted at all.

    We need to enforce the financial rules, how can the new government make this happen?

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  • David BU

    Yes, I agree.

    Government’s financial regulations were updated in 2007 and the accounting system is in compliance with the accepted practices as it relates to government accounting.

    Going forward, theses regulations need to be enforced and accounting officers must be held responsible. We cannot continue to have situations where departments are blatantly refusing to prepare up to date financial statements or adhere to requests made by the AG, to present these statements for audit.

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  • Interestingly, the former inept DLP administration promised to “listen” to the AG and implement systems to give the department more “teeth,” as outlined on pages 46 to 48 of their 2008 manifesto.

    Unfortunately, they refused to do anything and the trend continued during the past 10 years under their watch.

    I eagerly await to see how this present BLP administration deals with this issue, against the background of they not presenting any definitive policy initiative.

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  • I am not an economist or an accountant. I have no idea how the government distributes monies, but yet I have a suggestion.

    My deficit reduction plan
    1. Before the start of the financial year every agency/company/enterprise/school mentioned in the report must submits a detailed and itemized report of planned expenditures expected during the coming year. They can use the expenditure of the past year as their template

    Government officials would then go through this report with a fine tooth comb. The purpose of this review is to get the requested expenditures below the expected revenues of $2.5 B. Expenditures must be less than expected revenues.
    The approved adjusted expenditures are then pass back to the various government with the instructions that a) they must stick to the itemized list, 2) they cannot exceed the approved limits and 3) emergency items must be sent to and approved by an ’emergency committee

    This almost like having a pre-audit. Why audit only after the horse is out of the stall

    Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail.

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  • *ignore the typos.. it is always amusing how people can ignore the disappearance of millions of dollars but can unerringly spot a typo

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  • I am not an economist or an accountant. I have no idea how the government distributes monies, but yet I have a suggestion.

    My deficit reduction plan
    .1. Before the start of the financial year every agency/company/enterprise/school mentioned in the report must submit a detailed and itemized report of planned expenditures expected during the coming year. They can use the expenditures of the past year as their template

    .2. Government officials would then go through this list of expected expenditures with a fine tooth comb. The purpose of this review is to get the requested expenditures below the expected revenues of $2.5 B. Expenditures must be less than expected revenues.

    .3. The approved adjusted expenditures are then passed back to the various agencies with the instructions that a) they must stick to the itemized list, 2) they cannot exceed the approved limits and 3) emergency items (items not on the list) must be sent to and approved by an ’emergency committee

    This almost like having a pre-audit. Why audit only after the horse is out of the stall

    Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail.

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  • “Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail.”
    ++++++++++

    The above suggestion deserves to be contemplated.

    However, suggestions 1, 2 & 3 are already undertaken when the financial officers prepare the estimates of revenue and expenditure each financial year

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  • @Artax.
    Thanks,
    Your comment about 1, 2 and 3 were distressing.
    How can we be so far off-course when we have good processes in place,

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  • Theo

    Your idea would work if the govt was not made up of B and D yardfowls

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  • @ David…Suggestion, Why not share your ideas in the form of Articles even if it is a separate tab on BU for the Betterment of Barbados so more may have the opportunity to See it and participate where the ideas may be discussed and not just go into an email where you do not know where it goes, who is reading it and the Biases they may hold.

    Put your ideas in Public view for scrutiny and comment as this one does on BU.

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/07/13/for-the-good-of-our-country-barbados/

    For example if they receive these emails and should they hold certain views they are more than likely to conclude based on their Biases thy may say “we have received 1,542 emails and we have found Three that are credible. Depending e.g. if they are Socialist/ /Capitalist/Crony Capitalist/Marxist/Communist/Dictator Environmentalist / just to name a few.

    Because of their Bias the Population of Barbados would never see 1,542 emails. That does not make Sense, let alone being Transparent.

    Make these emails Public or even if you say send it to this particular email have them Published on a Website.

    If you do not do that you are fooling the people, by wasting their time and energy!

    Remember The Intuitive Mind is a Sacred Gift… For Heaven Sake Allow others the Freedom to make their own Choices within Reason and Righteous Laws!!

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  • @David July 14, 2018 8:30 PM “60 million to Clearwter (Four Seasons)”

    I remember good, good when that 60 million went to clearwater, and since I have to pass that way every single day I wondered why they were putting 60 million of the taxpayers money into A BIG BUSHY HOLE at that bottom o University Hill, while I an old age pensioner still have to pay thousands of dollars in income tax every year for the rest of my life, and land tax too, and VAT and whatever else the various governments can conjure up.

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  • David July 15, 2018 8:53 AM “On page 115 only TWO school Deighton Griffith an Daryll Jordan are update.”

    A little birdie told me that the schools’ admin officials have been doing their job in keeping the books up to date, but that the auditors are well connected to the political class, and that Deighton Griffith and Daryll Jordan have different auditors.

    Who are the auditors?

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  • Tell us more Simple Simon, maybe others can learn something.

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  • @Artax

    How is it possible if the AG has been always under resourced/ under staffed?

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  • TheoGazerts

    It goes back to what the AG has been continually highlighting in his reports every year…… there has been a blatant refusal to follow or adhere to government’s financial regulations.

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  • David BU

    The Auditor General’s office has been faced with challenges relative to the lack of an adequate level of auditors.

    I am unaware why this continues to be an issue, and unlike the conspiracy theorists, I’m not prepared to say it is a deliberate act by both BLP and DLP administrations to frustrate the efforts of the AG.

    The fact that, although the AG’s office is under staffed, they are still able to adequately perform their duties and fulfill their obligations efficiently.

    But this should not interpreted as providing an excuse for these inadequacies.

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  • Theo…good luck trying to get them to stop a system that helps them all tief taxpayer’s and pensioners money and give away the balance to minority thieves who smile in their faces…

    All of these frauds got on BU and said repeatedly how many poor ass ministers who had debt collectors and bailiffs chasing them down in 2008 before the election, but all of a sudden since being elected twice and in a 10 year period….many of them are now multimillionaires, with mansions and 6 cars each, foreign bank accounts etc…all on 17,000 a month salaries.

    ……but yet nobody ain’t tief nothing, no money disappeared….the auditor general is mistaken according to them…and we are not seeing or reading right….still the auditor general is unable to account for all the missing ledger entries…of hundreds of millions that should be accounted for….but is not.

    If you mind these jokers…just make sure your money is safe and not in their hands..or ya bust luck and will end up like some of these vulnerable elderly pensioners who do not even get their money because some lowlife in some government department dun tief it.

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  • @Artax

    On what basis are you suggesting the AG has adequately perform their duties?

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  • Why are the CEOs and chairmen of boards of the state enterprises and the heads of schools that have failed to submit audited accounts still in their jobs? Is the new BLP government going to do something about this obvious gross incompetence?

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  • @Artax, enuff et al

    Any feedback on how the credit union members represented today on VoB?

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  • Hal some of those actions are covert activity by politician yardfowls and supporters who are working to undermine the system believing that if they can frustrate or withhold information it woukd make the govt of the day look inept
    The lowlife mentality an activity of what happens in the systems is mind boggling to say the least

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  • The usual conspiracy theorists suspects continue to display their ignorance to issues and seem unable to reason rationality. But after the Rolerick Hinds scenario, I’m not at all surprised.

    Yes, mention was made of politicians suddenly becoming rich……

    ……but can anyone indicate where in the AG’s report it was definitively stated that any politician stole government funds? Or that “missing money” was found in any politician’s bank account?

    Or can anyone in this forum inform us where in the AG’s report is information that can be juxtaposed with the allegation that Chris Sinckler owns a yacht?

    I’m sure similarly to me, others have heard how ministers have been able to enrich themselves. But at this point, although the allegations may be true, in the absence of proof, they must be treated as “hear say.”

    Shiite, even my 9 year old nephew understands this.

    In the final analysis, and in the absence of proof, we can only base these allegations on speculation.

    Some people need to resist the emotional shiite and think with their brains (if they have any….but after reading the Hinds scenario, I’m doubtful).

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  • Another weak excuse from the exyardfowl, even weaker than Art and Enuff..

    the exgovernment had the power and money to empower the auditor generals office, they had 10 years to change the system from one of a free for all and no due diligence, no ledger entries, no one taking responsibility and no one going to prison…they found it like that from the previous government who found it like that from the previous government going back to the 80s when that scam first started under DBLP duopoly..

    There are people alive who were PSs for years and can still tell anyone who cares to listen the reason why that system of thievery was kept in place and why both governments were hesitant to change anything.

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  • The buck stops with the PS as far as managing the heads. What the political class AND senior civil servants must be forced to do is ensure the committees of parliament work and financial rules are observed. We need to impose better governance practices. Once done the process will identify bad management and malfeasance.

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  • Clearly this individual is delusional and resorts to spreading untruths to make themselves appear to be be knowledgeable.

    Perhaps the resident conspiracy theorist should indicate where in any contribution the following comments were mentioned, lest they are proven to be a LIAR:

    “…but yet nobody ain’t tief nothing, no money disappeared….the auditor general is mistaken according to them…and we are not seeing or reading right…”

    You need to comprehend what you read and stop telling lies.

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  • As a matter of fact, these same former PS’s will tell you how difficult it is to steal from the treasury…ordinarily…that is why a system was put in place to circumvent it and naturally that same system is being used to rip off the pension fund, but over the last 2 decades, it has gotten out of control.

    Listen to those now elderly but can still remember how all this thievery started.

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  • Facts are a hell of a thing…now it is over to Mia to right these wrongs and get rid of that working scam out of the lives of taxpayers and pensioners…and for christ sake lock up these goddamn thieves.

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  • David BU

    You must admit that in the absence of adequate staff levels, the AG is still able to complete the auditing process of all government departments and compile and present his reports on a timely basis.

    Additionally, what are the real reasons preventing PS, senior civil servants and accounting officers from publicly revealing information?

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  • Did the wannabe accountant ever answer the question about the missing ledger entries the stymies the Auditor General from doing his job????

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  • @Artax

    What did William Layne opine on the 2016 report.

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  • Can blame anyone for holding Mia feet to the fire for making unsubstantiated claims that past govt was corrupt while sending political.messages to suggest theft
    Now we have Artax and Enuff playing the role of spin doctors of interpreters of Mia words

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  • “Now we have Artax and Enuff playing the role of spin doctors of interpreters of Mia words.”

    Mariposa

    You’re not only a shameless yardfowl, but you’re a liar as well.

    Why don’t you stop spreading untruths?

    To save face and credibility, please present to this forum excerpts from any of my contributions in which I made any statement that suggests I attempted to or actually interpreted any of Mia Mottley’s word.

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  • Your words represent your actions
    All along Mia indicated that past govt officials would be prosecuted for corruption
    Now that the evidence in The AG reports does not promote or suggest Mia rants and political raves of illegal behaviour by govt ministers
    You Artax acts like a go between trying to deflate or intercept the political backlash most likely to be heard as most would accuse Mia as a liar for not acting to prosecute govt officials whom she accused as engaging in corruption

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  • Mariposa
    Hush your mout talking foolishness. The reference to corruption, as far as I can remember, is contained in the PAC report. This Auditor General Report is dated 6 July 2018, more than a month after the election. How could it have been cited during the election campaign. #whydoibother?

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  • David BU

    I’m referring to revealing information relative to the financial irregularities highlighted in the AG’s reports.

    No public servant has ever publicly explained or denied anything in the reports.

    Is it the system that gives them a certain level of immunity or does it prevent them from accepting responsibility?

    David BU, similarly to how Georgie Porgie is not fond of discussing medical issues in this forum, I am not fond of dicussing accounting issues as well.

    More often than not there are, to use GP’s terminology, “accounting illiterates,” that would read certain information, and not fully understanding what they read, would misinterpret it and argue they are correct.

    Missing ledgers, bank reconciliation statements, not preparing financial statements etc are par for the course in auditing and are just some of several methods used to exploit weak accounting systems by accounting officers, especially where there isn’t any adherence to financial regulations.

    There are methods that can be used to uncover these accounting anomalies, but it will obviously take time.

    Perhaps this may be one of the reasons why the AG has been requesting additional auditors. With an adequate staff compliment, he may be in a better position to extend the scope of the audits.

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  • @Artax

    Is it within the capacity of this government to effect change for the better?

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  • Mariposa

    You continue to harrow me with fear and wonder.

    The references made to corruption allegedly perpetrated by your former inept DLP administration during the recent election campaign, was based on the PAC report, that Donville Inniss, Stuart, Carrington, Stephen Lashley et al, objected to and prevented from being laid before parliament.

    But in your haste to score cheap political points, you attempted to mislead this forum by referencing the AG’s 2017 report, which is dated July 6, 2018.

    Thine ignorance is boundless.

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  • Mariposa

    You are soo right.I am laughing my head off right now at some persons who were so gullible when Mia and Dale Marshall and the other BLPites – the day after election started screaming about corruption and how they will go after anyone who tief.

    First thing is,if that is the case then they would have to go after themselves.

    Second thing, even after they kept throwing up the word ‘corruption’ and throwing the Kool-Aid drinkers into a frenzy – yet they were not pointing to anything that they can factually claim as proof of corruption.

    So listen to Dale Marshall in the house last Tuesday:

    “We know that there is corruption but we have no evidence of it”.ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa

    Lemme muh hear yuh again Dale ha ha ha ha ha ha ha wuhloss,wuhloss,wuhloss

    A lot of their followers now got egg on their faces and cussin bad,bad

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  • David BU

    Yes……if this new Mia Mottley administration is serious about good governance.

    Similarly to how people, special interest groups, trade unions, private sector organizations and the social partnership are all willing to protest on certain issues…..

    …….what prevents them from lobbying to “hold government’s to the fire” to effect changes relative to good governance?

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  • Protests read civil disobedience has not been effective in Barbados, only in a limited way.

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  • T. Inniss .the electorate was played like a 🎻
    Mia is a liar and all the different meanings and interpretations of what AG meant is not going change her words

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  • “T. Inniss .the electorate was played like a 🎻”

    Mariposa

    I guess you now understand how the electorate felt when they were similarly played by the DLP in 2008 & 2013.

    Unfortunately, they attempted to play a similar tune in 2018, but a much wiser electorate rejected the guitar players and judged them 30-0.

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  • No, David….lobbying does not necessarily means “civil disobedience.”

    People could peacefully lobby their parliamentary representatives…..then there are roles to be played by UPP and Solutions Barbados….even a rejuvenated DLP (although their credibility and record as it relates to good governance is abysmal).

    Then, how about the academics in UWI’s faculty of social science, division of management studies?

    And the Auditor General could request a meeting with the ministry of finance.

    These are just a few ideas that could be explored.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    Two comments of two bloggers caught my attention

    The first was “…Penalties for late submission of expected expenditures and exceeding approve expenditures include demotions, severances, requests for repayment when the money just disappear and threat of jail…”

    And the second a question from the Honourable Blogmaster which was “…Is it within the capacity of this government to effect change for the better?…”

    Dr ole man is as I have dun tell wunna NOT AN ACCOUNTANT NOR A DOCTOR NOR A LAWYER (though I knew more law than *** and *** heheheh)

    I however because I listen to my Lord discern the nature of men.

    But here is what de ole man would suggest.

    $37.47 CENTS!

    Now all uh wunna looking at that number and saying “Why de France dat ole fool mean by dat ingrunt amount ?

    Fuh some uh wunna feller who dun teif millions and ting dat money don’t even register pun wunna periscope as real money.

    But for a poor badword man like me dat is me water bill.

    Still what de France de ole man saying doah?

    Is he begging Mia to give he some money for he water Bill?

    Stay wid muh doah. Ef I Doan pay me water bill de water going get cut off and similarly me light and de natural gas etc.

    Dr ole msn would “centralize” every single utility bill of every single agency of Government

    And every month there would be a procedure where duplicate bills would be sent to that agency and to my central payment facility and on their confirmation of reconciliation I would pay their utilities.

    With one caveat.

    Their financials would have to be in order so if your books ent finalized and ting within a reasonable time, I will not pay you water nor light nor phone bill.

    And that will also be demerits towards the body in charge and s dereliction of duty can also lead to my firing your scvunt AFTER I CHANGE THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMISSION REGULATIONS like how i change the constitution to accommodate 3 senators

    Now here is a next thing.

    My man Charles Me Love You Long Time would be tasked to set up Facebook pages for every agency that would list the names of every single agency THAT CAN’T USE DEM TOILET TO SHYTE cause dem CEO & MANAGEMENT TEAM whose pictures I would have Long display boldly next to my “ADMINISTRATION SUSPENSION OF SERVICE NOTICE”

    I ent home just yet but I GOING GET de grandson compose a Stoopid Cartoon featuring what the end result would be

    You get enough de facto ” DEM Ent Pay Dem Water Bill” notices coming out bout big men and women agencies and de ole man going bet wunna dat the problem with incomplete financial returns will be solved overnight

    “The number you have reached is out of service…please contact CEO So and So at his cell phone number such and such…” well t last part might be a little overboard but “The Barbados Water Authority is closed cause de water is off cause HALLIDAY pay de bill” ent something dat Halliday want plaster cross de papers is it?

    But I is jes a foolish ole man…

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  • It will take more Artax. Ours is not a culture where citizen advocacy is taken seriously.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with a non consequential item that tries to help with a solution for late financial statements

    I acknowledge it to be a puerile submission but unfortunately we are dealing with children

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Yardfowls need to stay in their corners since they never seem to know what the hell they are talking about or what is really going on despite it sitting and staring at them or smacking durectly in their numb heads….the auditor general’s report covers and outlines all instances of corruption on many levels in various ministries and government departments as is very plain too see,

    The PAC report covered only one instance of corruption, as outlined by Mia and Ellis.

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