Magistrate Bannister Files Complaint Against Andrew Pilgrim QC for ‘think a fucking gain’ Comment

Andrew Pilgrim QC-  one of the respected lawyers in Barbados-  recently resorted to the use of muscular language and aggressive behaviour to demonstrated his frustration with a case presided over by Magistrate Graveney Bannister. To quote from the affidavit filed by Magistrate Graveney Bannister on the 7th May 2018, Pilgrim shouted as he was leaving the court, “Think a fucking gain”.

It has been reported that Pilgrim apologized to Bannister for the outburst. Clearly Pilgrim’s open dissent is symptomatic of a dysfunctional justice system in Barbados. If a QC can be so driven to resort to muscular language in open court then as they say- ‘Houston, we have a problem’. Was Alair Shepherd stripped of his QC status for mooning Justice Sonia Richards? Pilgrim should have no worries.

The blogmaster should also take the opportunity in this space to mention that Magistrate Bannister was in the news last week for suggesting  – wait for it – citizens that videotape policemen should be prosecuted. In the words attributed to Pilgrim in Magistrate Bannister’s affidavit the blogmaster says- think a fucking gain!

See Magistrate Graveney Bannister ‘s Affidavit filed.  We await the outcome.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    OK Mr Sargeant, I stand corrected.

    We doomed then it seems…no one to fight the establishment for the disadvsntaged.

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  • @David
    Thanks for the update

    Seems like Conflict of Interest regulations are also required for Corporations where cross ownership of companies exist. If an Insurance company and a car rental agency have the same Corporate ownership and the agency’s cars are insured by the Insurance company it’s “lose lose” for any claimant who suffer injury.

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  • @Sargeant

    This is a known situation that exist in the industry. It is cost effective given the loss of use cover in the policies. To be fair to drive-a-matic they have been operating in the car rental and hospitality for years, the acquisition of the Clico general insurance portfolio has created a diverse business for the Wetherhead group.

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  • It depends on who owns the car rental company and what type of incestous relationships they have with the insurance companies, many insurance companies own car rentals or their family members and friends do.

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  • David May 10, 2018 4:35 PM

    There is no more supervisor of insurance, it was replaced by the financial services commission.(Quote)

    There is. The supervisor is the FSC. The institution is the supervisor, not a named individual. That is not only out of date, it is incompetent. No one individual can supervise all insurance companies.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Unfortunately, my friend’s vehicle is insured “THIRD PARTY.” If it was comprehensively insured, his insurance company would have repaired the vehicle……. and then try to recover costs from Sun General.

    Additionally, because the vehicle is “third party,” Co-operative General Ins. Co. Ltd. is not obliged to repair the vehicle.

    Although the driver of the rental admitted to the police officer he was not paying attention and ran into the rear of the vehicle as a result, he left the island the following day……and Sun General is insisting they need a report from him to verify the accident actually occurred, rather than relying on the police report.

    I know a guy who owns two “wreckers” that transports damaged vehicles for 3 insurance companies. He told me that is the normal practice amongst insurance companies in Barbados.

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  • NorthernObserver

    Imagine….the issue is with lawyer Pilgrim and his language…and the Magistrate finds it necessary to give details about the person being represented by said lawyer and their alleged wrongdoings? Sixteen points to state Lawyer Pilgrim cussed him?

    On the other matter most rental companies self insure or have a cross ownership. For years GEL has operated Courtesy rentals and GEL also owned insurance, now part of Sagicor General, based on GEL’s last Annual Report. Akin to the product warranty business, where a retailer offers the customer “extended warranty” usually underwritten by a retailer owned entity, many of which operate as captive insurers in Barbados.

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  • @May 9, 2018 6:56 AM “All over this Barbados there are countless [stuffed shirt] ass holes in significant positions doing shit.”

    And they are mostly male.

    Ah lie?

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  • @ Simple Simon
    And they are mostly male.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Yes. But look carefully …you will find that they also generally tend to have ‘miserable-as-donkey women’ somewhere around them – making their lives the Hell that leads to such actions.

    Ask any one of your “Ex’es”

    LOL
    Murda!!!

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  • Breaking news
    Scientists are confirming that a pair of balls was found in a highly educated Bajan male. This has brought the numbers of pairs on the island to two, with Margaret from Deacons Road owning the other pair.

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  • Artax
    May 10, 2018 2:51 PM
    “Two months after the accident, my friend has been unable to have this matter resolved because the car rental agency’s insurance company is saying without a statement from the visitor, they will not repair my friend’s vehicle, irrespective of the fact a police officer was at the scene of the accident and took statements.”

    Artax, what you outlined in your May 10, 2018 2:51 PM post seems to be standard operating procedure for the insurance companies. I know of a very similar situation with 2 different insurance companies to the ones you mentioned. Police came to the scene and took ststements but one party refuses to report the accident to his insurer and the insurer says they can’t do anything without their client reporting.

    So what is happening is when there is an accident and one party is in the wrong, they just don’t report the accident to their insurer.

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  • Nostradamus May 11, 2018 12:56 PM

    Poor regulation again. What happens if there is a hit and run? Our financial regulation is prehistoric.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    “Think a Mucking gain..”

    Dr ole man is well known to be a prolific cuss bird who relishes in the use of bad words.

    And why is this? Why would one delight in such unflattering language?

    There is a place and a time for all things under the sun and this act by Andrew Pilgrim WAS NOT ONE OF THEM

    Now do not get me wrong, we ole man supports constructive anarchy against the face of unabridged tyranny BUT ONE HAS TO KNOW HOW AND WHEN…

    The facts are 1. that Pilgrim is not a bajan white (bukkra) Johnnie and does not have the generically assigned authority to “skin up his botsie” at a judge and get away with it

    2.Devoid as he is of such immunity such insolence is inexcusable and was poorly thought out and executed

    3.The fight which he and the few others with balls should be fighting needs to be fought when Prime Minister Mottley is in Bay Street

    Then us when he and others get the opportunity to clean up the morass that the Barbados judiciary has been from time immemorial

    4.which brings the ole man back to my opening sentence of “think a Mucking gain which EVEN IF HE HAD SAID IT AT X DECIBELS OF INTENSITY would have rendered Waveney’s sanctimonious attempts to get at Pilgrim null and void

    Just goes to show wunna dat as brilliant some of we pretends to be we is really fu*king idjits at the end of the day

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ The Honourable Blogmaster

    Your assistance please with another entry in suspense

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  • @ pieceuhderockyeahright,

    MIA and the BLP promise ” Developing a comprehensive 10- year road rehabilitation and road building action plan which will incorporate laying the utilities underground.”

    So maybe they will promise to develop a comprehensive 10- year plan for the Barbados judiciary.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Northern. what do you mean by “self insure”? As you suggest, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a conglomerate insuring one of its companies under the umbrella of another of its owned entities…the problem is one of obeying the law, of course!

    Generally, based on @Artax’s remarks it seems to me that local insurers are tacitly pressing policy holders towards comprehensive insurance. But brazenly it also seems that they are being aided and abetted in that ploy by lawyers (who according to bloggers are unwilling to take them on now when they refuse to settle legitimate matters) and the FSC/Sup of Insur (who are not enforcing the insurance standards).

    Because if the driver was comprehensively insured then No Problem. Car would have been fixed and the insurance companies would have resolved the expenses between themselves.

    Anyhow, glad to know bout this…I never encountered a problem in the past with the two fender benders I had so would never have expected this state of affairs….clearly one needs to take lots of pictures and witness names (if any) and pay any owners of video cams in the area of incident for all footage of the event… then wage protracted war with the insurance company.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @DIW
    term refers to rental firms, whether cars or tractors or whatever, getting into the insurance business for the specific purpose of insuring property they own and rent/lease. John Q Public cannot contact them for a quote for personal/business insurance. Back in the day, when I worked for a major multinational, and it had thousands of ‘company vehicles’, an insurance arm was created solely to insure these company owned/leased vehicles.

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  • @Bush Tea, it’s not about Simple Simon Ex’es, normally these belligerent angry old goats have had many promises of a trip to a church on a Saturday evening broken, thus they anger towards men. Take a look at all the black women who have issues toward their black men, and you will notice it’s not necessarily the men, but the stupid ass choices these women made in selecting a mate..Now they are all angry and bitter as RH.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    People need to understand the real issue that is being fought over in this matter

    More specifically to focus on dis so called magistrate’s idiotic comments about locking up citizens for filming policemen

    All uh wunna getting side tracked as to the real reason that Graveney Bannister is out to “get Andrew Pilgrim”

    Wunna would be best advised to ask a few policemens bout de relationship between one of the eight police officers who beat up Nazzim Brathwaite of The Pine/Wildey Close

    More specifically the same Nazzim who they had intended to kill and who Andrew Pilgrim defended

    And the outcome for some of those officers that the Current Commissioner of Police swore that he was going to get to the bottom of that matter about 2 years ago

    All wunna pretend Christians who does curate at de Church and pretend wunna worshipping the Lord pun a Sunday and den riding roughshod over lawyers cause dem exposing wunna dishonest policemans family FEEL DAT GOD IS A MAN and wunna can do as you like well…a new day is coming

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  • @Whitehill, then several men must have great anger towards me. I broke three engagements. One wanted me to stay home and be a housewife, the other was a beater and the third, if I married him I would have had to kowtow to his sister. Then there are those who knew I was not interested in marriage but proposed I have a child for them…..one black, two white. Thing is, if you don’t love a man, how can you sleep with and carry his child for nine months? Men just don’t understand us women.

    By the way, I took the beater to court, had him charged with common assault, he was found guilty and deported back from whence he came. We were both in university at the time and there was lots of animosity towards me for jeopardizing his education but I did not give a rats behind.

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  • @bajans or whomever, I don’t need to know this much personal shit about you…Now fuck off and kiss my ass . I know what I know.

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  • Looks like whiteHill got deported
    Murdah
    Mih belly
    Uh gun dead

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  • Either a bullah or misogynist or both…
    Wuhloss
    Boy you know how to make friends
    Yuh killing ma

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  • The Guyanese labourer, who killed a teenaged girl by stringing her up on a beam in her plantation home and leaving her tottering on two buckets, had his 25-year sentence shaved by the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) on Thursday.

    Persaud could be out of prison in about seven and a half years’ time.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/156579/cut

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  • @TheoGazerts, I hadn’t intended getting into some silly little pissing match with you or any other jack ass out there, nevertheless, what I’ve observed is that you billy goats love to silence men by referring to them as Bullers/Bullahs or bulling. You blithering idiots got here in Barbados and allowed the prime minister and his gang to bulled you without Vaseline so therefore you would know a bullah…ass hole. In recent times every RH woman can open her mouth and dump shit on men, for us to defend ourselves, speak up on our behalf; some RH idiot is bandying the term misogyny. When women can say all men are fucking dogs at a drop of a hat…Didn’t you read where I said to go kiss my ass or are you stupid?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @The Honourable Blogmaster

    Dr ole man submitted an item on this Pilgrim matter which is in suspense and would appreciate if you would retrieve it Thanks

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  • A word of advice
    Forget it.
    It’s going to be a beautiful day
    Wishing ALL Bajans a great day

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Can’t blame the CCJ or the accused murderer for that, the blame lies with the sentencing judge who did not follow established guidelines for sentencing, and ignored those guidelines to sentence based on emotions, the appeals court made the same stupid error in not reversing the sentence before it reached the CCJ.

    Once again, the supreme court is being exposed for incompetence, they have once again been warned to follow precedents, that is why they exist and are called precedents.

    Don’t know what it’s going to take for those at the supreme court to do their jobs competently and strip themselves of their personal opinions while doing so.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Piece…hence the reason I said that the lawyers who still have ethics, morals and who still fight for justice and for the supreme court, subordinate courts and judiciary to function as they should….though small in numbers, all have a sworn duty to not only expose magistrates and judges with the mindset of the tyrant Graveney…. (as barbadostoday is doing, can you imagine that, did ya ever think ya would see that in our lifetime lol)……but to start cleaning up the judiciary now given the opportunity by the not too bright Bannister who has had a really long run violating the rights of accuseds by denying them their day in court….in his collusion with the police who never have a file to present for cases to move things along.

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  • @Whitehill, seems I stepped on your corns…..all of them. hahahahaha! How many women dumped you? Were you left at the altar too? By the way, don’t reply. You seem to be near a heart attack or stroke. hahahaha!

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  • @Whitehill, except for those babies who were born of C-sections, all men had to pass through a woman’s vagina. Think about it. It therefore gives us the RIGHT to say what we want to, AND, about men. We brought all of you into this here world that you men persist in screwing up. Tek dat.

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  • We brought them into the world and can damn well take them out too.

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  • I guess even tyrants on a magistrate’s bench can learn something from this..

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  • Omar Lawreston Hall, 30, of 2nd Avenue Chapman Lane, St Michael, had been charged with robbing Andrea Headley of a $1 500 chain belonging to Leandra Headley on March 9, 2010. He was also accused of robbing Latoya Best of two gold chains worth $1 950, a $2 000 wedding band and a $2 000 gold pendant a month later on April 9. Two weeks later, he was charged with robbing Carol-Ann Roett of a $650 chain and 12 rings worth $4 690 on April 24.
    He was not required to plead to the indictable charges, and over the eight-year period had three separate lawyers represent him.
    On June 24, 2010, he was charged with unlawful possession of cannabis, and intent to supply and traffic in the illegal drug. He pleaded not guilty and was granted $15 000 bail two days later.
    He was placed on a 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew from Monday to Thursday, ordered to stay indoors from 6 p.m. Friday to 6 a.m. Monday, to report to Central Police Station every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and banned from all Crop Over events.
    When he appeared before Magistrate Douglas Frederick last Wednesday, Queen’s Counsel Andrew Pilgrim reminded the court that day had been marked as the date for final adjournment of the matter.
    He said the prosecution was to decide whether it was going forward with the robbery cases or not, although they had been dismissed on a previous occasion.
    When prosecutor Sergeant Rudy Pilgrim could not produce the file, the magistrate dismissed the case, saying 2010 to 2018 was a long time(Quote)

    Another example of a system not fit for purpose. How are our political parties to sort this out?

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