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Thanks to international recording artist Rihanna Crop Over 2015 has been given its fair share of international exposure. The management at the Barbados Tourism Marketing Inc. must be grinning like the proverbial Cheshire cat.

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198 responses to “2015 Crop Over and Rihanna”

  1. de Ingrunt Word Avatar
    de Ingrunt Word

    Donna, I am confident you appreciate the use of analogy so it strikes me as very strange that you find the analogy of Rhianna as a ‘jewel never before seen in the jewellery box’ (a high value marketing asset of a type not previously available), and the action to ‘Polish and use accordingly….” (deploy and use strategically the marketing asset) to be distasteful. Absolutely confused by your response to very simple business lingo.

    Let’s see if I can be pellucid. Rhianna is not a saint (and never pretended to be). She is a world renowned individual who happens to be Barbadian and that fame can be beneficial to us if we use her directly in our tourism marketing but it also serves us effectively in millions of $$ of free publicity.

    Consider when Garry Sobers was a key actor in our tourism thrust. It can be argued that in the world of cricket and its supporters he was an even bigger jewel than Rhianna. Now, however, she takes Bajan Sir Garry’s immediate recognition in that cricket world and Bajan Rhianna does similarly across the whole world.

    None of this Ri-Ri marketing chatter takes away from your christian perspective on life and it certainly does not mean that Rhianna’s life style is the ‘IMAGE’ of Barbados. She is not a practical role model for Bajans and that should be clear. She is a superstar with all the disturbing behaviours related to that type who happens to be Bajan.

    I do not condone her personal actions and of course like a Tiger Woods if it’s necessary to sever ties to her because of some egregious behavior then so it will be.

    But until then and even beyond that if her name/country recognition encourages another visitor or their cousin to travel to or explore what/where is Barbados then we must engage WISELY.

    So let us not focus on the morals of this young woman because I find it hard to believe that prospective tourists equate that to the country; I prefer to see how best as a marketing asset her ‘Bajanism’ can be effectively deployed.

    So as you continue your well directed and purposeful way forward let us be clear that there is room for different strategies – secular and lacking christian purpose – though some be.

    And of course like you, ‘I believe GOD will polish her in good time’ as he will polish us all.

  2. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    De Ingrunt Word

    As long as you are a man and there is possible double entendre in your construct you will encounter this type of interpretation with some of these holier than thou washed in the blood of the lamb quack.

    And there you were thinking of diamond in the rough when others say you to be putting a waxing on “the browning” and all of that merely from the metre of your font, you must be using a different Browser??

    Now suppose I was an ignoramus or illiteramus wannabe like let us say ** (two initials??) or (Heee Haw), I could rightfully have taken similar, illogical?, affront when you used the words “the action to ‘Polish and use accordingly…. (deploy and use strategically the marketing asset)” in a sentence trailing so close to Sir Garfield Sobers.

    You get my drift De Word?

    I, if i were an igrunt man to wit, that two initial character says that I am, so I will now rise and say dat I finds it “to be distasteful” and besmirching what you have said and impute and ascribe to that Legend”, by your tangential allegory.

    It is real easy for us so-called-christians to put on these “Holier than thou robes” concerning Rihanna, forgetting that Jesus the Christ, whom they would fool others to beleive that they follow, on the Cross at Calvary, said to an accomplished criminal, “today that shalt be with me in Paradise” evidence that irrespective of what a man does GOD, not mere man, will apportion to him Eternity or Hellfire.

    Can I have an Amen!!

  3. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Donna

    I am a Christian as well, but I vehemently disagree with your position with respect to Rihanna. Who are you our any church to decide what’s best for Barbados? There is still a high wall between church and state I hope? And added to that: the entire Christian faith is predicated upon: freewill, individual- judgment, self-determination and autonomy of conscience. Donna that is why we are amongst the most hated religious faith on earth today; we are so quick to administer our own unique brand of condemnation wherever we see fit.

  4. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Donna

    I often redirect my wife when she espouses this pious attitude by informing her that: “Who is able to stand in judgment of sin but God?” The sacred book also tells us that: “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” But I am also mindful of the passage of scripture which tells us that: “He who knoweth to do good and does wrong is sin.”

  5. David Avatar
    David

    Isn’t it ironic we are discussing culture and Rihanna has to feature in the conversation?

  6. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @David,

    Barbados is getting promoted by Rihanna and Lewis Hamilton and his 2 dogs. lol

    Barbados is part of the modern world and will benefit from name association.

    google their names and see what comes up.

  7. David Avatar
    David

    @Hants

    Your statement of fact does not address the issue raised how does Rihanna and Hamilton express the culture of Barbados.

  8. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ David,

    What is the culture of Barbados?

  9. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Nice wholesome activity.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3187168/Rihanna-showcases-curves-flame-colored-swimsuit-paddle-boards-Barbados.html

  10. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Again nice day at the beach.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3187163/Shirtless-Lewis-Hamilton-clutches-beloved-bulldog-shows-impressive-physique-relaxing-beach-getaway-sunny-Barbados.html

  11. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    See how beautiful Barbados is?

    Wish I was there.lol

  12. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Pieces,
    Sooooo, if I disagree with a person’s actions while admitting that I too am a sinner I am holier than thou washed in the blood quack. Pieces, I am an Anglican. LOL. We come in from partying and so straight to worship. I have stated CLEARLY that I find Rihanna to be a beautiful girl with a GOOD HEART. However her overall image is not one that I like. Is it your position that I have no right to express an opinion unless it coincides with yours? And why are you here complaining about the morals of our politicians on such a regular basis? Is like your BRAIN is going to pieces. Or maybe you just like tantalizing yourself with the naked bodies of women enough to be your granddaughter!

  13. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    That’s YOUNG enough to be your granddaughter.

  14. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Dompey.

    I don’t usually answer you or ac but I’ll make an exception today and ask,

    Who are YOU to decide what’s good for Barbados?

    I am a Barbadian taxpayer, living in and contributing to Barbados. I, like anyone else in a similar position, have a right to an opinion. I have a right to express it. And Barbadians have a right to accept or reject my opinion as they see fit.

    Where do you see any condemnation in my expressed opinion? God only can condemn and I stated this CLEARLY. That does not mean that we do not have an opinion on what is right or wrong. Why then are we here on BU daily expressing our opinions and labeling our politicians as corrupt? You people are illogical!

    I’ll tell you here honestly that I struggle to tolerate fools and you and others here are truly testing my patience.

  15. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    De Ingrunt Word,

    Some analogies are not good analogies. I understood clearly what you were saying but it didn’t come across well to me.

  16. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Now,

    For all those who think that a Christian does not have the right to express an opinion without being labeled as “HOLIERTHAN THOU”

    I do not stand in judgment as I have NO right to do so by virtue of the fact that I too have sinned and continue to sin (albeit less and less) and fall short of the glory of God. If Rihanna came to my Sunday school class dressed in a revealing dress I would have more trouble preempting the gawking and disapproval of my teenaged and young adult students than my own. She would be welcomed as she is and loved as I tend to do with young people. However that would not change my opinion on the inappropriateness of the dress. That opinion would remain unexpressed because the important thing would be her presence. After a while she would probably change her style on her own.

    I’m sure it would surprise you that my hackles rise when some Americans tear Rihanna to shreds on some of their websites and I feel moved to respond in her defence. I have a Rihanna CD which I play and I enjoy at least some of her songs.

    How’s that for ‘holier than thou robes?!!

    Now, Jesus did not condemn the woman caught in adultery but he did not endorse her sin. Rather he said to her, “Go and sin no more!” As Christians we are not perfect but we should be making progress on our journey. Therefore if we slip and fall we repent and get up and continue to follow Jesus. So, I do not PRETEND to follow Jesus as some “pieces” would say. I stumble and fall, get up and go again.

    And finally, the thief on the cross with Jesus recognized and believed in Jesus and was therefore afforded a place in paradise. That does not mean that Jesus changed his opinion of theft but that he recognized that the thief had changed his opinion.

    Dismissed!

  17. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    Forgive me but wasn’t the title of the submission “2015 Crop Over and RIHANNA?

  18. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    After all is said about the success of the recent Crop Over Festival, at the end of the day we must all be concerned as to direction in which the festival is going, as it relates to our culture and morality.

    The following links gives us an idea how the festival seems to be progressively moving from just “wukking up” to topless women in body paint and men performing cunnilingus openly on the streets.
    This surely must be a cause for concern. But then again, there are people who would obviously support this type of behavior.

    http://i0.wp.com/nakeddeparture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/crop-over-12.jpg

    http://i1.wp.com/nakeddeparture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/crop-over-16.jpg

    http://i0.wp.com/nakeddeparture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/crop-over-8.jpg?resize=600%2C400

  19. David Avatar
    David

    @Donna

    Yes it is, a provocative title.

  20. ac Avatar
    ac

    This so ridiculous beyond laughter !Why?because for some unknown reason there is an imaginable fear that Rhianna’s “image”can cause a catastrophic moral decline or an eroding of the social fabric of Barbados
    The reasons being she dresses half naked , smoke whatever, drinks alcoholic beverages and has a career as an international artist
    Seriously before there was Rhianna Barbados moral decay was littered with incest!pornography ! drunkards! whores!scalliwags!liars!cheaters!adulterers! all of which has shaped and formed the culture of Barbadians
    Rhianna’s as an artist portrays an image that is indicative of her business and should not be perceived as an image which she planted on Barbados culture and an image which she uses to promote Barbados,far from it the seeds of immorality was planted before Rhianna was born
    Her image is packaged and sold to an international audience an audience who could not careless what Barbadians think

  21. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    Which AC is this???

    This is CERTAINLY NOT the DUFUS…

    Very, very rarely does it arise that you get a chance to use your computer and to speak straight up on a subject with an intelligence that Irene does not have.

    I would beg you to take away the cuntputer from her (note that it is computer for you and cuntputer for her)

    Or at least change the password

  22. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Quite true, Rihanna has very little to do with the immorality in Barbados. That is clear to even the foolish Christians among us. What I am saying though is that I’d rather not make money off immorality, Rihanna’s or anybody else’s. There used to be a tourist brochure of a line of naked female posteriors of luscious yet tight proportions none of which belonged to Rihanna. I found that to be distasteful also. I’d rather promote Barbados in a more wholesome way. I am not interested in what tourists think. I am interested in what God thinks. I am entitled to my opinion and shall continue to express it whether you like it or not. I suggest that my submissions are no way near as ridiculous as what is generally posted in your name trying to convince us that this DLP government has brought us the “best of times”. I voted for them and unlike you can admit without shame that I made a big mistake. I never have a problem admitting my sins or my mistakes. Ask my son and my Sunday school class. Try it! It’s empowering and liberating.

  23. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Donna.

    The point that I am making which you clearly missed is entrenched in the “timeline of life”

    Let me explain that for “always there will be greater and lesser persons than myself…”

    The point of final surrender for both the Thief and the Christ was on their Respective Crosses.

    HE who is the Final Arbiter of ALL THINGS, intervened and absolved the sinner and murderer of a Life that had been such that it merited the later’s crucifixion.

    If in the “classroom” of life, one from which you now seek to dismiss us lesser humans, the young Miss Fenty is living the “Rihanna” role to the fullest, you, and none of the Holier than Thou crew, cannot be condemning her to “Hell and Brimstone” AS IF GOD DIED ON CROP OVER DAY and you and Chad of the Inverted 666 became GOD, in absentia.

    Even one of the AC’s has grasped this nuance of being “at a point of her path, which only she can take. That is the beauty of life – DIVERSITY & SINGULAR EXPERIENCE

    As to “my predilection and love of the female body” which I periodically share with Hants, Bush Tea, and even the pervert Baffy (of Rape is Fun) and others of the brethren who sneaked and watched the Krave Video, I totally apologise but I probably will have this unabashed “love and admiration” for such fine specimens of female pulchritude UNTIL THE OLE MAN DIES.

    WUNNA DAMN BEAUTIFUL

    Now I have learnt that as is the stance of you peeple, David (not BU) the one in your Bible that you and the rest of you thump on your chest on Sundays (but remove it so the Pastor can lay down on it on Mondays and the other nights that you are supposed to be at Women’s Fellowship) David had a very young thing in his bed when he was stricken in years if I recall.

    Of course I guess you would probably have had a kinder word for de Ole Man and a warmer disposition if, as many of your Anglican priests, if the old man had been admiring the bodies of the young menses….but then again I am no Gomes and I does still drink soup

    Just keeping it real

  24. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Artaxerxes,

    Let’s see if they try to take away YOUR right to an opinion! The old men here think they can frighten me off just because they, like old fools (and I am being kind enough not to use the other label) enjoy ogling naked revelers young enough to be their granddaughters.

  25. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Pieces,

    Can’t you read at all? I HAVE NOT CONDEMNED ANYONE TO HELL! I don’t even believe there is a hell of burning fire. Keep oogling, old man! It is your right to do so and my right to see you as a dirty old man.

  26. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Pieces,

    Just read your entire submission.

    Remember you were the one who first dismissed me as a fool, a hypocrite and all manner of things. I dismissed YOU and your stupid comments. I am not a Bible thumper. I am an Anglican. We view the Bible from a non-fundamentalist position if you even know what that means. And no priest has ever laid down on me and I WAS at the Women’s fellowship meetings. And, I think you are mixing us Anglicans up with the Roman Catholics.

    Putting all you ignorance on show today are you?

  27. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ David [BU]

    What is Culture? Or what is Barbadian Culture?

    I guess that de ole man had to go to the internet to seek a definition which (i) permitted me to first of all “define” it and then (ii) apply it

    “Culture is the characteristics and knowledge of a particular group of people, defined by everything from language, religion, cuisine, social habits, music and arts”

    So I guess that when one asks individual questions for each of these elements we can say that Barbados has Culture, which, in time, may be as profound as the Culture of China or Japan, if Kick’em Jenny doan tek we first.

    Is Culture something that can be actively promoted? Again the answer comes back in the affirmative and again one can say that some elements of ours are promoted more than others given “frequency” and medium

    Suppose one were to ask if Crop Over Is part of our Culture? Again we would get a resounding yes, in some quarters, since it does qualify under music? Edwin, Peter Ram?, social habits (wukking up) etc.

    Is it frequent? not as frequent as the Broadway Line dancing that attends the Horse Racing so many Saturdays here in Barbados, but its lack of frequency does not make Crop Over any less a part of our Culture,

    The Steel Donkey is part of our folk lore, Granville and the Spiritual Baptists is an inseperable part of our religion but that now brings me to Rihanna and my question to you and anyone else who would care to answer de ole man.

    What is the determinant that one applies to ascertain if Rihanna is part of our culture?

    Is it her birthplace and nationality? like jazz or accapulco is it her artform? her uniqueness of language, is it that she represents a religion, can a cult not be so construed? social habits, displayed ones (exhibition of body parts) or style of engagement? like the eccentric King Dyall or Gearbox?

    We don’t see her often so it cant be frequency of interaction, locally, or, in the age of internet, where we can access her in a click, is that a moot observation? Does she promote us, like an Ambassadorship, Obadele, Suki, some will say that she does, PASSIVELY, others will say ACTIVELY, all subjective and given the current love/hate state of the collective psyche, it might be questionable if Rihanna, given all of the above, IS PART OF WE CULTURE?

    What do you think?

  28. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Something is definitely wrong when a man can accuse me of thumping my Bible on Sunday and removing it from my chest on Monday so that the priest can lie down on me, all without having a clue who I am. That is one sick dude!

  29. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ pieceuhderockyeahright,

    Donna says she is a Christian Sunday school teacher.

    We should respect her for that.

    I had a “friend” who was a “christian” and one saturday night she said ” I can’t stay long cause I have to go to mass in the morning.”

    So an hour later she went home well prepared to confess her very satisfactory fornicatory sin.

  30. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ Donna,

    BU is more like a rum shop than a church. You are most welcome in here an tobesides it is free for all an sundry.

    If you go in a rum shop in Barbados the men will be telling you how sweet you look and if they drunk enough they will even tell you what they would like to do for your carnal enjoyment.

    You wrote “And, I think you are mixing us Anglicans up with the Roman Catholics.”

    What is the difference?

  31. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Hants,

    Christians sin. I too have sinned. The temptation to sin never goes away and sometimes we succumb. For instance I have a bad temper and a sharp tongue and right now I am being tempted to let loose on a piece o’ man who knows nothing about me but is accusing me of lying down with a priest. My time spent at Church has been spent in the service of God and the young people. I have made my mistakes but not while I was supposed to be at Church serving God. It really is a good thing that by the time I am finished typing I have already counted to ten. Delete, delete, delete!

  32. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    You know Hants as we “dirty ole men” get older (I say we because you did sen me de pictures of Krave and according to Donna, Apostle of the Lord, you enticing me to Krave(n) Acts (not the Bible Acts) of Carnality) our experience makes us so much wiser and unlike the Holier than Thous we can be real.

    Now behold the vacillations of said Donna, “Sunday School Teacher” and Emirate of the Anglican Church who, in one breath says “He knows what we look like under our clothes anyway. And since He made it, I believe He thinks it’s beautiful. He will cloth us in His time with His righteousness.”

    Now here is she pronouncing the Word (not to be confused with the Ingrunt Word, though he was formerly using that Moniker) The Word According to Donna”

    But de poor ole dirty man dat is me, said “beautiful” in a manner that she who has sight beyond sight, Like Leonid of the Thnunder Cats Ho!! (note Donna that i did not say Whore) because I said beautiful women with, according to her, too much emphasis on “beautiful”, I am now lascivious like Sankey Price or Domkey while looking on the schoolboy passing out the schoolgirl or the policemen in the stables with the teenager.

    I have a peculiar set of skills (lol) which permit me to see the duality of men/women

    I will use your quote from earlier one which you presented to the Ingrunt Word, and one which I am sure, knowing your style of engagement, you will claim that you did not use Miss Holier than Thou.

    You said “And your language re polishing Rihanna and using her when necessary is quite distasteful to me.”

    Why is it distasteful? Is that because you are not the Scourge of GOD on earth?

    Then you who speak so glowingly of having the right to an opinion go on to state in that sanctimonious voice, rather text, ‘I think you should restate that. She is not a thing to be polished and used for our purposes.”

    And then with the coup de grace, or in a lascivious tone, if ever there was one “Besides, what kind of polish are you thinking of using?”

    De Word was king to you in his responses but I wudda tell you de sorta polish that I had for your (cannot say that work here or I will get Banned for Life)

    I was speaking generically of the infelicities of wunna holier than thou Crew Donna, when I spoke of that shifting of the Bible to do those “fornicatory things” I do not know you but I have “known” and still know (not in the Biblical way) alot of you who kneel today for communion and tonight for the Band of Hope choir master.

    No Ms. Donna I dont know you but what I do know is that “by their deeds ye shall know them” and you have, in the space of three postings, shown “How deep thy spiritual grounding” in this “Anglican Bible” and the depth of Christian Charity that clearly abounds in you, emanating of course, from your “non-fundamentalist position” if I ever will know what that means.

    She going so sa that famous female chant “whatever” that the fairer sex are so famous for…LOL

    Doan play wid de dirty ole man, you would get bun and bun bad… (a la Jamaican styling)

  33. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @Piece, who wrote “You know Hants as we “dirty ole men” get older”

    We Bajan men have always been appreciative of and addicted to bounteously beautiful females.

    As we get older our physical performance may diminish but not our appreciation of the adult females who present themselves for our viewing pleasure especially during crop over.

    @Donna,

    You sure you want to stay in this den of iniquity?

  34. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    The human body is beautiful when seen in the right light. Leering old eyes just don’t see the real beauty as God sees it.

    There was nothing lascivious about my reference to polishing, you old fool. I was just enquiring as to what were the areas he thought needed polishing and how he would attempt to do that in a non-physical sense. I meant attitudes and behaviours Mr. One Track.

    Now pray tell, if I keep admitting that I have sinned and am still tempted to sin how does that make me holier than thou. However, I do not hold up my sins as an example for others to follow but would instead warn the young people of the pitfalls into which I fell to save them from the same. In that I expose myself to their censure and that is an act of LOVE. Luckily for me the young people have reacted differently and see it as “keeping it real’.

    My Christian charity is such that though I detest you thoroughly at present if you had a heart attack from looking at your granddaughterly pictures I would at least administer CPR, provided that a mask was available.

    Love is not about emotion but about action. And I would call upon Christ to overcome my emotions to do the right thing.

    There is plenty you do not know. The first thing is that people say I am too soft on people and always trying to find an excuse for bad behavior. (I hold strong views on psychology) The second thing is I would never try to play with an old fool like you.

    And from now on whatever you say it will be whatever!

    Enough!

  35. ac Avatar
    ac

    Still at lost to this “point” of unnecessary concern that Rhianna’s image is one to promote Barbados that seems to be based solely on conjecture which has been attached to her heritage through no fault of her own
    By all appearances rhianna seems to have adjusted to her role as being an international artist with all the bells and whistle
    However it appears as if she has not allowed the character of Rhianna to stand in the way of Robin Fenty when she graces the shores of her homeland

  36. David Avatar
    David

    @Piece Thanks for the culture comment.

    It is interesting because today RPB expressed disappointment about the narrow theme musicians create music hence no international break through and growth in the music industry he opines drive the festival. Therein we find the conundrum.

  37. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Hants,

    It would surprise you to know that I still miss the rum shop that used to be opposite my grandmother’s house. I face the realities of life without flinching. Nobody but nobody can run me from BU!

    PS. I would tell you the difference between Anglicans and Roman Catholics if I felt your enquiry to be genuine.

  38. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    Ahhhh Blogmaster,

    Therein comes “the intangible intangible” or “depth” of Culture.

    One can appreciate what RPB is saying intimately,

    How can a peter Ram song of superficial quality, yet popular as evidenced by sales, ever compare to a Gabby, Boots, Emmerton or Sparrow?

    Can one say, rather hide behind, the statement, excuse?, that our culture is young? 50 years?

    What has produced our RPB and our Gabby’s Kitcheners Sparrows?

    And what has produced the Georgie Porgies and Peter Rams?

  39. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Some people have no idea what it is to be a Christian. They look for people with their heads in the clouds immune from sin with halos above their heads. And so they will always be disappointed. In this matter the only difference between non-Christians and Christians is an acknowledgement of our sin, a repentance and an unending struggle against the temptation. Bad habits take a while to be changed and we stumble and fall. But we get up and keep our eyes on the prize.

    Now this may not be a church but my initial reply was to Chad99999 who tried to condemn Rihanna to hell. As a Christian I saw it as my duty to remind him of the truth. That is, that he had no such authority. Subsequently I was engaged by the ever respectful De Ingrunt Word to whom I replied and then attacked by a most disrespectful old man who shall remain nameless and apparently clueless. I reserve the right to defend myself as all others do when attacked and misconstrued and vilified because I state, rather mildly I might add, that I’d rather that half naked women (Rihanna included) not be used to entice tourists to our shores.

    It is my opinion that sex is a very good thing in the right context and the human body is a beautiful thing to be displayed in the right setting. This is not knowledge that I claim always to have had.

    Those who have a problem with my “Churchiness” have the option of scrolling past my submissions.

  40. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Donna

    You said “Leering old eyes just don’t see the real beauty as God sees it.”

    You speak such truth in that superlative statement and yet, even with the truth that you have spoken, you seem unwilling to accept the commensurate fragility and frailty of man.

    All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God

    In the first Book of that Sacred Book you seee that Man who communed with GOD directly, not by way of YOUR Priests, fell from that Paradise

    Yet you would have me, dirty as I am in Sin, “see Like GOD sees”

    There is some type of blasphemy in that statement.

    But like i said earleir I expected you to pout your Christian Mouf and do this sanctimonious type behavious because you are special and washed in the Blood of the Lamb.

  41. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Whatever!

  42. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @Donna who wrote “PS. I would tell you the difference between Anglicans and Roman Catholics if I felt your enquiry to be genuine

    What makes you think my enquiry is not genuine?

    Anyhow Donna I gine lef you lone since it appears you are a genuine christian and I will respect that.

    I was brought up in the Anglican church too (sang in the choir ) but got distracted and led astray.

  43. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    I can lay a bet that Ms. Donna is a pretty attractive Christian young lady, new to her faith and trying real hard to keep on the road and away from Perdition like de Dirty Ole man.

    She has strayed in her youth a little bit, she ent one of dem skanks, she is a “nice girl”, and has done those things, in times afore.

    That she is new is evident by the ease with with de ole dirty man is able to goad her to anger but that she is really committed is evidenced in her count to ten and of course not cussing de ole man as she might have done in times afore.

    She is relatively young or youngish because of her ease of using “whatever” which is not a word that is used by the older bats, hags and witches who abound here and whose name de ole man cannot mention lest they light into me behind as usual.

    What has happened in the BU Rumshop as you came to convert the loud mouthed, old drinkers Donna, while seeking to show the world the new you and to test your mettle, is that one or two of the old menses here looked at you “hard” but did not reach out and touch any of your “parts”

    You are new here and you are new to you conviction but there is a need for you not to look at life as purely black and white, there is a satate or colour called grey and I am told that gey can come in 50 shades.

    I mentioned some of the rest of “them” who pronounce the same things that you speak to so faithfully, but who in practice, continue n the “old man” and do not release or repent of their sins but rather say a few Hail Mary’s and ask absolution.

    You dont get no “free pass”, whu even de ole man does get a few good kicks from Hee Haw and dat craven witch from up dey in de hill,

    I cyan mention she name causing unlike you, she does tell de ole man some bad tings dem..tings dat does mek de ole man cry pun a night..and be in need of a shoulder to cry pun.

    Now sincing dis is Bulbados I would want it to be a female shoulder but, as you may know, me wife is away and effing I say so, I may be called a leering ole man plus an adulterer.

    We menses is a logical breed, some uh we anyways, not dem in de DLP doah, DEM Ingrunt, my word dem ingrunt…(am befo my buddy de Ingrunt Work tek offense DIW i isnt call you name)

    Anyways Donna whatever….(dem gots to be a male equivalent to dat female statement oh i know whu it is …OK Donna I has heard evey word you said, dat is whu we does say to we wumens dem…”

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    pieceuhderockyeahright

    Now bout dis culture ting

    I was looking at Rihanna’s outfit and I was remarking that it for some die hard Bajans it might not have been too Bajanized and in sync wid we Culture

    YOu know one uh we Bajans might have said it did not have too much Rachel Pringle Big Pooch parts” but was more Trinidadian and the jewels too Bra”zillian fuh Barbados

    (Speaking bout Pooch Mr. Blogmaster, AC mek some threatening remarks two days ago bout de granson and how he need to get pooched up in Dodds”

    I want to know if you cud axe Mr Caswel Franklyn or Jeff Cumberbatch ef dere is gounds fuh me to call de office uh de AG and Adriel Nitwit issue an arrest warrant fuh she on grounds of violence against grandchildren, someting like “Cyberspace Paedophilia in the face of intended perversion”.

    If I fail in that regard I cud a least try to get de peole for the other place in Black Rock to come for her on the Open Charge sheet of Idiocy and Insanity on the Loose” I will awiat your comments

    Now I was wondering the following

    Now you see how effing all de wummens and ting (forgeve dis remark Donna) ef all de wummens was to dress up in scant Brazillian (soon to be Bajan Culture) Crop Ovah jewel bras and panties, do you think that this could easily become the new Cultrual Dress of Bulbados?

    And commensurately supposing all de naked wummens dem was to hide dem bodies in a bolt of Rachen Pringly cloth and walk down to Spring Garden from the national Stadium, do you thing that this allegiance to “we culture” wid mis pringle would attract as many tourises dem?

    I did jes wondering

  45. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Not new to the faith. Twenty- five years and counting. My anger is my Achilles heel. With that I still struggle. A while ago I would not have counted to ten. So I am making progress. Other things like fornication were relatively easy to conquer seeing that I find most men are clueless as to what a woman like me really needs. That is why many woman fake it. Also I find you behave as though to marry a woman is a death sentence. I have no intention of killing anyone. I am a fun loving lady who loves to laugh. If a man doesn’t enjoy my company I believe he should go elsewhere.

    My “whatever” comes from my association with young people. They are my passion and I have worked with them for twenty-five years also. So you see I am neither young or youngish just not old and decrepit. I am told that I look younger than I am

    I didn’t come to convert anybody. I came to remind a fellow Christian of the truth.

    There are more than fifty of shades of grey in life but we do need to discuss the stage where grey turns to black. This will cause differences in opinions and we can respectfully deal with that.

    So you are right in only a few things. I am an attractive Christian lady. I have strayed but was never a “skank” (A word which I do not use to describe a young woman no matter what.) And I am as sincere as they come.

    Now I am off to the library!

  46. David Avatar
    David

    The bottomline Piece, it is hard to identify what makes the Barbados Crop Over different than any other. If Barbados is expressing its culture through Crop Over as one channel of cultural expression what does it mean?

  47. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Donna

    Be safe on our roads and be vigilant

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    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ David [BU]

    “Some of the best things in life are free” were words that I once heard what seems to be a lifetime ago, words that the local rumiel down by we, Arfur, no not the last PM, believes in, particularly when somebody else paying fuh a pint and a half an it open pun de bar

    Free for us was the beach, skating down a hill in de palm tree husk dat held our 8, 9, 10 year old body, bicycle rims down Sudden Hill, skaters, truck inner tube at de beach (dat din always fun, not all de time a few fellows drown) hog plums, ackees and mangoes in de srf wid sea watah, dominoes late pun a night, tonk (in de ole house dat ** dead an left to family in Merica, widout stabbing nuhbody) roast breadfruit and pickle pun de beach tings like dat

    Is only when you get big you could go to ** beach wid de white boys, Liberty wid de big mens and udder sinful places dat my encounter wid Donna earlier got de ole man a bit hesitant to say.

    Queens Park and George De Fifth, De Esplanade was de po Boy cultural moments and picnics pun a bank holiday, Christmas was 12 days of ham at everybody you know house, family, and friends of family.

    Tings like Laugh it off and Central bank Lectures and Cave Hill Lectures and dese sophisticated gatherings didnt really pun we timetable.

    But the “Depth of outdates, simplistic community, far from de maddening crowd, without the “sophistication”, euphemism for classism and social stratification, was there, and more, it was free!!!!

    A good evening out only required some old wood, four breadfruits, some flying fish and a good shite talker and you know dem was alot uh dem all round. And we dint used to resort to shooting a man when you get mek de brunt of a joke bout you muddah…

    There was “depth” of community and it was free as simple as dat was D dat was Culture.

    What has happened is that we, (and dis i where I talk so not kindly bout David C), we abdicated our rights and let Brazillian costumes, American dances,Skate On replace Alfred Pragnell, Tom Clarkeand the contemporary griots of our respective times.

    We lost that loving feeling, that warm and tender feeling and its gone, gone, gone oooooooh..

    We done sell out and did not even know there was an auction of our culture that intangible which never was allowed to deepen WHERE IT MATTERS.

    In a few years Twitter and Facebook will define our culture Blogmaster

    It will me “how many followers do you have on your facebook page, or you believe that plebian still uses Windows what dem ent got an AI (Artificial Intelligence domestic nnd Labour Union Representatives like Mr. Franklyn will be arguing concerning the expansiveniss of code in the A3000 Customs officer model and Grantley Adams Air Teleportation Complex..

    “Widening & Deepening” our Culture, beyond the confines of Crop Over, where each and every facet of its being is made to pulse and LIVE, IS AN ART which a Central Bank Governor who brings an Englishman or a Washingtonian to Bulbados instead of Kamau or Tom Clarke will not allow us to achieve and the practice of hiring non nationals in our leading cuisines will certainly undermine, where Broadway Line Dances at Saturday Races will certainly undermine, where ostrich farms instead of blackbelly sheep and (kangaroo courts Sorry dat Michael Carryton and Parris ting still subjudice right, whu is dat you say, ohhhh kangaroo court is where dem hang somebody sorry)..

  49. David Avatar
    David

    @Piece

    Are you saying we have traded that ”loving feeling” for progress?

    On 7 August 2015 at 21:31, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  50. David Avatar
    David

    @Hants

    You are the expert, what is cultural about this costume?

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