2015 Crop Over and Rihanna

Crop Over 2015 is about to slide off the calendar and by the measurement of many it was a success. BU will reserve judgment until a more respectful  time but we offer this: is Crop Over […]a big party [carnival] or is it meant to be an outlet for vigorous cultural exprehttps://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=47590&action=editssion.

Thanks to international recording artist Rihanna Crop Over 2015 has been given its fair share of international exposure. The management at the Barbados Tourism Marketing Inc. must be grinning like the proverbial Cheshire cat.

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198 comments

  • David,

    Exactly where is the costume hiding? I can’t see any costume.

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  • @ David,

    That is not “culture”. That is a very well designed carnival / masquerade costume as seen in any “carnival”.

    Cropover/Kadooment, T&T Carnival, Rio, Toronto,Notting Hill and on and on. Same ting.

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  • Lord knows I used to love Crop Over and would wish to be able to involve my son. But I can’t introduce him to this. What kind of mother would I be? So we have to stand marginalized away from a vital part of our culture. It just isn’t fair.

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  • The costume is not the thing these days. It is the body that is on display. Same old bodies every year. Nothing new.

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  • @Donna, Hants, etc,

    Can you define “our culture”? What would you like to see different? Specifically.

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  • We cannot avoid modernisation unless we become like North Korea.

    What can we say is uniquely Barbadian ?

    While some of us old fellas had wonderful childhoods and the materials and opportunity to live off the land for free, it all changed as we progressed.

    I will never forget leaving home in the morning, spending the whole day at the beach sustained by coconut water, dry coconuts,roast breadfruit and roast fish and fruit in season.
    mangoes,sea grapes,golden apples and goose berries.

    Now we have progressed to “Chefette” and Gas Station/mini Marts.

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  • @ Alvin,

    I will let you and other Bajan intellectuals define what is Bajan culture.

    I am thankful that I grew up in Barbados in simpler times.

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  • Why are people so afraid if the naked body. Who was it first to consider the naked body as one of vulgarity and sinfulness. I have seen pictures of other black or mixed cultures who seem to have found the naked body as one of ordination v

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  • de Ingrunt Word

    Pieces and David, interesting commentary as always when the question of ‘Culture’ is debated.

    So, David this extravaganza definitely has our unique Bajan characteristics to make it part of our culture. Our Barbados Crop Over is a ‘grand extravaganza & partee’ held of course to celebrate the end to the hard labor and toil of the sugar-crop…remember the old mantra: Burn Mr. Hardin, Burn!

    Kadooment dancing is cultural if it’s an artistic demonstration that is part and parcel of the extravaganza. Otherwise the wukking up on the street is to incite pleasure to oneself or some partner so that is purely hedonistic, nothing cultural bout dat.

    And we Kadooment party also means the same thing as Carnival in T&T or Brazil or as Mardi Gras in New Orleans. For all ah we it’s tourism revenue and revenue from the additional consumption of various goods and services.

    So we can break out we calypsos, we food and all we Bajan behaviours to distinguish we culture from others!

    But the lewdness, crude talk, semi and fully naked painted bodies and the other brazen sexual behaviour is just as ‘cultural’ to Brazil, New Orleans, T&T, Aruba, DR and everywhere else they have one of these similar local celebrations.

    So help me understand how Rhianna is a cultural icon for CropOver or otherwise. She loves to come home to enjoy the Kadooment partee and that’s great, but wha culture what?

    By the way Pieces, how is it dat we ‘culture’ is only 50 years old…it start wid Independence, fah real!

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  • @Hants

    Are you saying the costume does not depict or represent a Bajan cultural expression? The skimpy costume is all about adornment?

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  • I’m not afraid of the human body.I have no problem watching documentaries or allowing my son to watch the naked tribes roam. It means nothing to them and hence it means nothing to me. But the innocence of those other cultures has long left these shores. It cannot return. Have you noticed the behavior of the people who ‘wear those costumes?’ It is all about sex for them . Numerous men jucking their posteriors and from what I’ve seen here sucking as well in the open. It’s just an orgy. Nothing more. Or do you consider mindless sex to be desirable as well?

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  • Here is what the costumes of the two winning bands look like, Betty West and Trevor Chase.

    http://www.ooutraje.com/sections.html

    http://www.funbarbados.com/crop_over/kadooment_bands/betty_west.cfm

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  • Yes David. There is noting uniquely Bajan about it that I can see.

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  • @David the costume designers in Barbados are very “creative” but their designs are typical of the carnival costumes every where else.

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  • Donna

    I hope you’re cognizant of the fact that Christianity took much from Paganism and sanctified it? Also, a strong argument can be made and probably sustained, regarding Solomon’s relationships to his Pagan wives which resulted in the contamination of the Christian religion.

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  • Crop Over used to be an exciting time for me being an artistic and creative person. It was not about bringing in tourists for me and for most other people I know. It truly was an expression of our culture in all its forms. But now it is just an excuse for people to engage in mindless sex in the open. And this we do in the interest of the tourist dollar. We are empty souls it seems. Empty souls drifting into nothingness. We are truly uncultured.

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  • de Ingrunt Word

    Donna, you have again surprised me with your BU comments. I say surprise because this most recent comment linked to you a more blinkered view than I would have previously expected.

    You said: “Lord knows I used to love Crop Over and would wish to be able to involve my son. But I can’t introduce him to this. What kind of mother would I be?…”

    I have no idea how old your son is but I fear for him (and you) if you willfully curb his introduction to this event and expect that you are saving him from the world’s evils.

    No long palaver here because fundamentally I don’t believe you could really be that myopic about helping him manage the rampant sexuality that is around every corner, inside every school classroom and hiding behind one wrong click of the mouse.

    Let me frame it simply this way. I was watching an interview on TV with the madam and both of us were startled when the actor/former ‘The View’ talk show host ,Star Jones joked that after her nine year old son saw Beyonce perform once on TV he said to her ‘mommy, my thing is tingling’.

    We both reacted as ‘wow, nine years’.

    Long story short, surely we don’t want to expose our children to too much overt sexuality too soon but also as surely we better get into their heads and try to explain as practically and innocently as possible what’s going on because whether we like it or not they are being exposed!

    Of course, on the humorous side of that revelation is the fact that the kid is definitely not homosexual; but gee that is an early interest in the opposite sex!

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  • Forgive my ignorance but didn’t the tribal men wear loin clothes at some point in time. I don’t recall them being so clothed while the women were so naked. In these costumes the men show a few chest hairs whilst the women have to shave their pubic hair or it would be showing.

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  • @de Ingrunt Word,

    Leave Donna alone nuh!

    She is raising her son in a way that she thinks is best. We must all wish her well.

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  • Donna

    You’re quite correct Donna… Cropover has evolved throughout the years from its meager inception in 1979, I think it was. And at that time, it was all about the end of the harvest celebration and the burning of Mr. Harding at the National Stadium, to its present day commercialization and hedonistic tendencies.

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  • @Donna,

    Where is the costume with the pubic hairs. For a Christian your detailed examinations are astounding.

    It musse my old age and transition lenses that preventing me from seeing the “details”

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  • My son just turned twelve and his not so little thingy has been rising and tingling for several years. I already explained to him why it was rising whenever he saw couples on television kiss. We talk about sex and how good it is in the right context. We talk about women and men and relationships and the correct way to view a woman. I have introduced these things to him in an age appropriate manner. He is not ready to witness the lewdness of Crop Over. He still is only interested in Star Wars and other such movies. But we have discussed on many occasions the perversions of mankind and will do so more explicitly as he becomes older.

    N.B Believe it or not he has not seen any rampant sexuality at his school nor has he been shown any inappropriate material. His classmates are still quite childish.

    De, I taught three year olds and had to explain to them about inappropriate touch re sexual molestation. No problem. I teach teenagers and young adults at Sunday School and we discuss sex openly and realistically including pornography. No problem. I can stand up and discuss sex in any forum without shame. And you think I have a problem discussing sex with my son? Steupse.

    So…. I am not at all myopic and my son will be well equipped to face life. Don’t you ever fear for either of us. Not ever.

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  • Hants,

    That is the problem. You keep trying to put me in the Christian box. Mistake. I’m not your airy fairy Christian, you see. You should hear how we talk in my Sunday School class. I’ve got young men and women in there. Gotta keep it real!

    The pubic hair has been shaved off. That is why you cannot see it. The point is the costume is so skimpy I know that they have shaved.

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  • @Donna,

    It is interesting that you pay attention to those “details”.

    You are a fascinating lady.

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  • I am indeed an enigma to most men.

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  • Donna

    Your son will be better equipped if you allow him to gradually exercise his individual-conscience and right to his private judgment, as he progress through life, but under your tutelage of course.

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  • Sapientiam tuam non est numerus!

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  • Donna,

    So what did you think is happening Mr. Dompey? I guide him as is my job as a parent. I tell him he must learn to make his own choices. I gradually give him age appropriate choices I have already told him that he must stop and consider what I tell him, learn to reason since he will need to make all his own choices in the not too distant future. He will make his mistakes but I will have given him a way to return to base.

    Train up a child in the way he must go…..

    Really, you men can’t seem to understand that you have nothing on me. I am not in need of your advice.

    My son, dear Dompey will be better equipped than you are.

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  • @ Donna
    My son, dear Dompey will be better equipped than you are
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You REALLY need to set higher goals for the young chap though..
    Shiite man… Julian Glyne Williams’ donkey is better equipped than that Dompey….AND smarter too.

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  • Bushie,

    Maybe I should have said waaaaay better cause that’s what I meant.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Donna

    I noticed that while you were speaking you made a mistake and said “whilst the women have to shave their pubic hair …..”

    I do hope that you know that that is wrong..?

    According to Ronald WeJonesing, our Minister of Edukashun (as in Shunning education) the correct statement with spelling is and You would do well to repeat the Minister’s words “whilst the women have to shave their public hair …”

    And we wonder why our education system is so poor!!!

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  • @David the costume designers in Barbados are very “creative” but their designs are typical of the carnival costumes every where else
    Sounds a bit oxymoronish to me

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  • “My son, dear Dompey will be better equipped than you are.”

    Interesting response and so not to leave much to the imagination; could I be allowed to ask in the context of the discussion if better equipped up there or down there.

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  • Donna

    I hope your son is better equipped than I was because for sometime I had allowed the dictates of my parents, religion, and society to influenced the manner in which I thought entirely.
    But a decade or two ago this philosophy teacher who happened to be Jamaican of British descent, challenged myself and those she taught at the time to examination with a strict scutiny what was inculcated by parents, society and religion, by employing the tools of common-sense, the laws of nature and logic to arrived at our particular determination.
    And here I am today a product of a liberal education which enables me through the process of critical analysis to examine those unproven claims and to challenge those bogus beliefs with a meticulous scrutiny.
    And finally Donna, in such a time as we are living in today, parents ought, must and should encourage their offsprings to think as though their are scientists, leaving nothing to chance and refusing to accept what is being impressed upon them at face-value.

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  • Donna

    You might or might not be aware of this fact, but prior to 1990, a liberal education in the United States of America was devoid the critical thinking skills. And that is why today we have to frustrate ourselves with characters like Bush Tea and the likes, who haven’t the intellectual-infrastructure to think critically because he and them hadn’t been taught to do so. And this character may I add: ( poor soul) finds it unintelligible when persons like myself and AC employ our sociological- imagination and think above and beyond this character limited box of intellectual artefacts.

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  • Bird brains of a feather eat scratch grain together.

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  • Balance,

    From all indications my son will be well equipped in both locations. He’ll have the physical equipment and the knowledge of how and when and with whom to use it. He is a considerate child who listens well. And unlike some of you he actually hears. Heck we were up past two this morning talking and the poor child fought sleep because he thought I needed to be heard. You guys would have been snoring hard.

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  • Pieces,

    If the hair was public they wouldn’t have shaved it off and Hants would have been able to see it.

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  • @ Donna
    LOL …you getting sweeter and sweeter..

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Donna

    You do know that I was jes highlighting the illiteracy of Minister of Edukashun WeJonesing right?

    Looka, looka looka Bush Tea, looka looka LOL

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    De old man teif dis from de internet as I did the earlier definition on CULTURE from Alina Bradford, Live Science Contributor.

    I thought that her comments encapsulated this concept succinctly and addressed the “FLUX” that CULTURE (which some argue does not exist in Barbados) will always experience

    “Constant Culture

    No matter what culture a people are a part of, one thing is for certain, it will change. Culture appears to have become key in our interconnected world, which is made up of so many ethnically diverse societies, but also riddled by conflicts associated with religion, ethnicity, ethical beliefs, and, essentially, the elements which make up culture,” said De Rossi. “But culture is no longer fixed, if it ever was. It is essentially fluid and constantly in motion.” This makes it so that it is difficult to define any culture in only one way.”

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  • @Piece

    We agree to the definition/explanation you posted about culture. What we need to do is go deeper to explain/understand the tension required to feed the fluidity you mentioned. We can’t go with the flow can we?

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  • @David,

    Lewis and Rihanna are showing off Barbados as a “fun” destination.

    Lewis getting a lot of attention from the “papparazzi”.

    Can’t show any links because of concern for the health of Piece an Bushie.

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  • @Hants

    There is no doubt Rihanna and Lewis are given a publicity to Barbados money cannot buy. The discussion about culture which is about the expression of a people is a different conversation.

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  • Culture in Barbados has changed over the years.

    It might be a good idea to preserve aspects of our culture in a Musem of Bajan Culture with exhibits and live shows.

    Tuk band on Christmas morning could be part of a weekly show including ole time reenactments of minstrels like Shilling and Honey doo doo.

    Lunch at the “Museum” restaurant could be roast breadfruit with the salt beef an butter inside as well as the other traditional food.

    Literature…..Readings from books by Austin Clarke and others.

    Sports….Cricket in its various forms, marble cricket, beach cricket. A demonstration of how we knitted balls and later used bicycle inner tubes to make balls. Show cricket bats made from coconut branches and clammy cherry branches.

    I am sure Piece, Bushie and others can add to “we cultural experiences”

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  • There is also Kite flying. Any of you remember making kites using coconut leaf stem or cane trash bones?

    I also remember making our own toys. Tops that were cone shaped with a nail at the tip.

    Pitching marbles 3 holes. The there was my favourite with a ling. I was very good at that.

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  • We have never had any culture which we could clearly called our own. We have been adopting other people’s cultureS as they came in their numbers to Barbados. first it was the Englishman’s culture,and we have gone through the various stages to where were are now…..Trini Culture. We have even embraced the Mormon culture,a sect which believes that God had placed a curse on people and turning them black. Pretty soon we will be going Chinese. Correction we have gone Chinese , judging from the amount of Chinese cultural programmes we see on CBC TV. And of course we are into the Indian and Asia culture via the almost million dollars of Remey hair pieces we import annually.

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  • Colonel Buggy wrote “We have never had any culture which we could clearly called our own.”

    Even if that is historically correct there are some aspects of other peoples culture thet we were born into.

    So it does not matter that cricket came from another culture. I still learned to make cricket bats and balls and enjoyed playing.
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    I will leave it to our better educated brethren to add to this topic.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ David [BU]

    Irrespective of the varied definitions I think that culture is that “je ne sais quoi” that sense of “We-ness” that, in a almost 50 year old independent nation, with 338 years of known settlement by the British (Arawak settlement chronology not definitively known), we have been unable to create.

    You remember your school song, or how you used to insert all the wrong words into John Brown’s body lies a morning in the grave.. Glory Glory Allelieu teacher hit me with a ruler…?

    It is the constancy of repetitious indoctrination of who we are as a people that over time mades Chinese love their land, “American for Americans” the taximan in the streets of Singapore to recite the LKY vision of his country that we have never been able to get right and, as a result, now seek to aggrandize this costume party on Spring Garden as our Culture.

    We be a lost people, led by blind men and women, floundering in doo doo…but a happy people who “doan give a damn if santa clause come cause all i want is my gallon uh rum…”

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  • There were also some meals that were only eaten on specific days. Puddin n souse on Saturdays.

    Certainly coucou and flying fish or red herring or har slit are “part of our culinary culture”

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  • Wukking up have naked doing you best to imitate sex in public is not CULTURE, it’s clloser to stray dog behaviour

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  • All customs of a country need not be positive

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  • de Ingrunt Word

    Pieces, there are no “varied definitions” of culture. As David said we can “…agree to the definition/explanation you posted about culture”.

    And as you noted above our Bajan culture is thus a combination of our African heritage and also the habits and practices we embraced from the English overseers.

    There is no need to hedge that or run from it.

    I would never consider dancing, prancing and partying at the street party called Kaddoment as being culturally specific, however.

    I’ll say this though, I believe the Trinis have established the ‘party fun-time’ attribute as singularly cultural to them.

    When large portions of your population have the spirit and joie de vivre to have ‘curfew parties’ in order to de-stress during a violent terrorist siege of the country’s Parliament and its Government leaders, then we can say that is a deeply held national characteristic.

    So Carnival and jamming is definitely culturally Trinidadian. LOL

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  • Is Gabby a cultural icon ?

    Who Gabby think he is

    Buy the book.

    “The book was penned by librarian Barbara Chase and consultant author Valerie Clarke. It was launched at Days Bookstore in The City, this morning.”

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  • Guy Fox,

    It is known as doing the dog but since we no longer see pets doing it these days I’ll borrow your term and call it “doing the stray dog”.

    And they are no longer half naked but 9/10 and apparently many not only imitate sex but actually do it on the streets.

    King Solomon,

    The definition of culture does not necessitate that the custom be positive it is true. But it sure would be better if the customs were all positive.

    De Ingrunt Word,

    True our culture like many is a patchwork of other cultures. American culture is the same, isn’t it? That happens when you have the history that we have. Nothing wrong with that. I enjoy them all.

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  • The amount of publicity this event called Crop Over received is Unbelievable , Now the Bees must be very worried .
    After years of the bees trash talking Barbados the world got a first hand look at this tiny island through a lenses of anti political rhetoric and unbiased truth
    Yeah the power of the media, This is with certainty a blow to the organizers of the Doom and gloom event, and a power punch that have out maneuver any plans of action the bees might be thinking of using against this kind of leverage which gave barbados millions of likes and thumbs up,
    For sure not enough spin and twist by the bees can sour or dissuade those who saw and appreciate

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  • barbados live and in living color .. Awesome ! provocative! can only get better our culture

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    I am sure that as I predicted last week as one of those who promote Doom and Gloom, in no small part, that the DLP resident town crier will also take some measure of blame for the incident in Black Rock which is now etched into the minds of those tourists who were in the parade.

    CRIME & VIOLENCE, CRIME AND VIOLENCE

    I wonder if those are Mia’s words? Ohhh sorry those are the words of the Dead King!!

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  • de Ingrunt Word

    AC on another blog thread one of your alter egos – or as Donna has advised, one of your split personalities – displayed excellent reasoning and logic. With that in mind I would ask you to bring that personality to this thread too because you not making sense here.

    What does the overall economic pain and doom and gloom have to do with the Crop Over Extravaganza?

    During the economic down turn in US circa 2007 – 08 were any of the major festivals – Mardi Gras, the various national day parades in NY/Miami etc or the Fourth of July celebrations diminished?

    Crop Over is the type of major public spectacle that any government will ensure is well presented even if the next week afterwards we were told that the PM shuffled his cabinet and the four ministers who signed Cahill were reassigned!

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  • @Hants and Guy fox,
    Is it by chance that Guy Fox has chosen an English Historical event, that we used to celebrate every year; before we became independent and it was banned, as his nom de plume, or is it deliberate?

    For your information wukking up is part of we culture. I discovered this when I was doing research for my Play “Ja Ja King of Opobo” and researched the Dances of Africa, specifically of Nigeria. In some of the dances the dancers simulate the sex act, even lying on the ground to simulate it. In addition, they have various types of costumes, masks and and headdresses. We have, from when I was a child, the costumes of the “Jumbie Man”, who used to wear a crocus bag and was covered from head to toe. In Nigeria this costume was colourfully decorated by persons on the street putting pieces of coloured cloth in the fabric, with each piece of cloth representing a spirit that the person wanted to “get rid of”.. Wukking up is part of we heritage and it is unique cause white people can’t wuk up. As a matter of fact every black person can’t wuk up, and I maintain that few people can wuk up like Bajan women. It is a joy to see it done.

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  • What does the overall economic pain and doom and gloom have to do with the Crop Over Extravaganza?

    Actually nothing at all,for once pain was exempt and gloom became nonresistant in the minds of those who took a preference to enjoying such novelties of life as the rest of the world looked on, some with awe and some here at home whose costumes were adorned with political rhetoric and ruffles depicting maddeningly jealousy

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  • Crop Over is the type of major public spectacle that any government will ensure is well presented even if the next week afterwards we were told that the PM shuffled his cabinet and the four ministers who signed Cahill were reassigned!

    but the dlp was never recognized by the blp misfits as a govt farther less any govt which is another reason why the success of the crop over taste sooooo sweet,

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  • Dompey August 8, 2015 at 6:54 AM #

    “I hope your son is better equipped than I was because for sometime I had allowed the dictates of my parents, religion, and society to influenced the manner in which I thought entirely.” INCORRECT

    “I hope your son is better equipped than I was, because for some time I had allowed the dictates of my parents, religion and society to influence the manner in which I thought entirely.” CORRECT

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Alvin Cummins,

    You do know that it was Guy Fawkes that was “banned” and not Guy Fox??

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  • When one considers the current plight of Barbados: rising unemployment, a rise in violent crime, a rise in the supply of firearms, a failing government, a growth in faceless foreign corporations who dictate government policies, a rise in obesity levels which is a pre-cursor to diabetes and other ailments, a national health service which cannot support the weight of a nation of sheep whose population seem intent on literally eating themselves to death, et al.

    Yet here we have 168 comments discussing a garbage festival which is nothing more than a front for lewd behaviour.

    Here is TONI THORNE version on “Wukking up, vulgarity not the same”
    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/70844/toni-thorne-wukking-vulgarity

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  • Exclaimer
    you are spot on man. Their nothing wrong with the festival itself, its a good thing………..but those (most people) who use it as an opportunity to be lewd and vulgar make it in a public embarrassment which Barbadians should be ashamed of.

    I overheard some tourist (white Canadians and and black English) describe what the witnessed on Grand Kadooment as:-
    1. Demeaning to women
    2. Improper for children
    3. Disgusting
    4. Shocking
    5. Vulgar
    6. Animalistic
    7.Morally insane

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  • Exclaimer August 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM #

    “Yet here we have 168 comments discussing a garbage festival which is nothing more than a front for lewd behaviour.”

    Blackfriars August 9, 2015 at 7:03 AM #

    “Their nothing wrong with the festival itself, its a good thing………..but those (most people) who use it as an opportunity to be lewd and vulgar make it in a public embarrassment which Barbadians should be ashamed of.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Perhaps lewd behaviour is one of the variables used by the authorities to measure and determine the “resounding success” of the Crop Over season.

    It seems as though Crop Over has lost its true purpose and have changed from a cultural based festival into a “carnival” of fetes and lewd behaviour.

    A few years ago the festival began to mirror Trinidad’s carnival. In the past 3 years it has been slowly moving towards a Brazilian type event, whereby costumes are becoming skimpier each year. Now we have women parading without tops and their breast covered with body paint.

    However, if we are going to determine the success of the festival primarily on the amount of fetes that were held and sold out, the amount of party songs produced and the amount of competitions targeting “wuk-up calypsos,” then we definitely had a successful Crop Over Festival.

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  • Lawd hav merci wuh nuh get up so early grumbling about a festival that brought joy and laughter to this 166 sq,miles of beauty,,cuh dear, just give up! the party went viral everybody loved the wuk up and barbados became the envy of the carribbean.
    now wunna just shut up ! haters.
    Come next year it going to be another explosion as this little island becomes the worlds besst place to be in August, wunna ain,t see nothing yet,

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  • ac
    If its about publicity we can achieve more by marching some of the minorities to the end of spring garden and shooting them in mass. This would be an internationally reported incident.
    There is good publicity and there is bad publicity, publicity in of itself is not always good.

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  • Blackfriars who are these minorities u want to see pit in front of a firing squad,, negro ,,Who are these minorities ?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    It is already an “explosion” as every year, under the guidance of your leader Fumbles we hear the sound of gunfire in the festival AND with his steady hands he and Stinkliar guides our economy to”implosion,,,”

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  • Backfrairs but it is our way of life and frankly speaking: the festival is open to each and everyone individual interpretation. I have never once felt any sexual arousal from dancing on a pretty girl’s bottom during cropover. In my mind I am there to have a good time and dancing with beautiful the women of Barbados, nothing more nothing less.

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  • Backfrairs, your idea of marching minorities to the river end and pumped lead in their skulls, is pure crazy talk. The sort of people who take affront to the lascivious behavior (behaviour) associated with the cropover festival , are same ones as a ( as the R&B song describes) who wishes to have a lady in the streets and a freak in the bed.

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  • Black fire is a madman do not pay the jerk any mind.

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  • There is a small class of black people in this world today, who seems to place their value on what some white people say and think. Backfrairs excuse my English, but who really gives F..k what the white Canadians and black English thinks about our festival and what it entails? What is most important I believe is how we as Bajans, both foreign and domestic think about our festival. The rest can piss off!

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  • @Dompey,

    I am bajan and I do not care dick about the crop over festival. Went one year in the early 2000’s and took my son. Went to cohoblopot….it was pitiful and a waste of money. Refused to go to the kadooment in that hot sun. Have never been back, will never go back. it just aint my cup o’ tea. We have better festivals and parades up here. Even the gay pride parade is beautiful to behold.

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  • Pat

    I respect your opinion, but I respectfully disagree with your analogy regarding parades in North America because I find them quite mundance and very boring.Their aren’t anything at all like our festivels in Barbados and elsewhere in the Caribbean.

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  • de Ingrunt Word

    @Alvin, I very much agree with you re our link to the African customs which have infused our culture and embrace the view that ‘wukking up’ is part of that. Where I part company though is defining the ‘wukking up’ on a stage or road by a group of performers as the same as the hedonistic acts on the Kadooment road march.

    The latter just seems vulgar and better left for private places.

    @Artax, I would agree with your piece above but with these key changes: “It seems as though KADOOMENT has lost its true purpose and have changed from a cultural based festival into a “carnival” of lewd behaviour.”

    Crop Over itself may have also lost some of it original historical wow factor with the displacement of the ‘hard times’ Mr Harding symbolism and some other events, but over the years with all the new aspects of the Crop Over season like Cohoblopot, calypso tents, party monarch show on East Coast, and as you said the ‘amount of fetes that were held and sold out’…then we definitely had a successful Crop Over Festival”.

    Of course there are ancillary acts like the Bussa walk which have also become part and parcel of the Crop Over Extravaganza.

    So we need to stop equating Kadoooment as CROP OVER. The jump up with all its lewdness and salacious acts is but one segment of a festival that has significant exciting and positive cultural attributes and creates a VALID buzz of excitement, joy and positive revenue to the island

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  • Pat, parades in North America in my estimation, lack the rhythmicity one usually finds in Barbados and elsewhere in the Caribbean, so I don’t know how a Barbadian born and bred in the island could even enjoy that mess?

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  • “Hants August 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM #

    @David,

    Lewis and Rihanna are showing off Barbados as a “fun” destination.

    Lewis getting a lot of attention from the “papparazzi”.

    Can’t show any links because of concern for the health of Piece an Bushie.”


    Not only Rihanna and Lewis Hamilton but kudos should be extended to the former sacked coach of the West Indies team; our own Otis Gibson as well for his promotion of Barbados rum during the congratulatory celebrations in the dressing room of the English players after retaining the ashes. Amidst the abundance of beer and champagne Mr Gibson displayed a bottle of Mount Gay black and offered his colleagues rum and coke for all watching Sky Sports 2 to see.

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  • Hotels, guest houses, restaurants, stores, shops, taxi and tour operators, and others would have benefited from the influx of visitors to the island specifically for Crop Over. In a depressed economic environment where many are loath to spend, the period between June and August is one where significant spending and circulation of money occur. Minister of Culture Stephen Lashley is on record as stating that during the Crop Over festival about BDS$80 million is pumped into the Barbadian economy. That is a figure not to be scoffed at. Indeed, it is one to be increased.

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  • @balance,

    Yes kudos to Gibson and congratulations to him as England’s bowling coach.

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  • One would never hear all this positive news out of the mouths of the BLP but what can one expect! after all the Blp misfit still fighting the results of the 2013 election.Tough luck!

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  • These concerns have been expressed by many spanning DLP and BLP governments. Why is everything reduced to partisan politics by some people? Steupse.

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  • @Donna

    The answer is a simple, we are following the path of Jamaica and Trinidad. There is a sense of inevitability about it all.

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  • SO, Gibson is the bowling coach for the English Team. They win.

    He coached Windies, they lose.

    Have we understood yet, it is NOT about coaching, it is about skill and guts.

    Out current players are soft boys.

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  • To clarify my last statement, good on Gibson for coaching the English team.

    My point is, even a good coach cannot help Windies weak players.

    I told y’all a long time ago, Windies cricket done.

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  • Gibson was a “part time” bowling coach for West Indies.

    Had he been the full time fast bowling coach he would have made a difference.

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  • Crop Over bursts with potential skillfully managed it could be the number one festival/carnival cultural phenomenon in the Western Hemisphere with the exception of Mardi Gras in Brazil. The excessive lewd behavior must be toned down. To achieve that is a challenge for organizers and festival well wishers indeed an intense coordinated effort must be put into action. The gunplay by wild and lawless youth at the hotspots must be stamped out. The RBPF and citizens who want to see the island prosper must join hands, identify the hard headed gunmen and punish them severely in the law courts or in the cemetery if they shoot back.

    The Rihanna factor illustrates the power celebrities have to advertise the country in a way no marketing agencies could. The celebs at Rihanna’s level of popularity can lure tourists here in massive numbers the trick is to select key stars to lead the charge. Rihanna isn’t only a key one she’s one of us.

    Kadooment Day must be tweaked. Incentives to the long complaining band leaders must be offered. Tax cuts on costumes and ancillary items should be cleverly rolled out so that if the state gives discounts it drives more commercial and economic bustle.

    The Grand Kadooment from its name to its route is pure wonderment and excitement to all who witness it be it those from abroad or the local communities. The culmination on Spring Garden Highway with some of the best white sand beach and azure waters in the world fascinates the most seasoned traveler. Bajans cannot get enough of Kadooment or Crop Over and its clear the same hold true for tourists. The loving embrace of Crop Over by the people goes a long way in communicating the authenticity of the Festival. Outsiders respect the local endorsement highly. If you don’t respect your own don’t expect respect from others.

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  • We are in agreement here on most things.

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  • barbados /crop over/ would never be the same as Rhianna continues to grace the pages of international magazines taking barbados along for a sensual captivating ride
    Wow
    check out these pictures.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3192379/Rihanna-shows-incredible-beach-body-cut-bikini-feeds-baby-monkey-sunbathing-Barbados.html?ito=social-facebook

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  • Crop Over an incredible story that started as a small contribution to our island and a memory to our ancestors who toiled and laboured valigantly in helping to shape and develop the landscape of barbados

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  • No longer doubt! Descending from the sky,
    She lifts you in her arms to realms on high.
    And so you into Paradise are brought,
    As if worth of pure and endless life:
    Nothing is left, no wish, no hope, no thought,
    This is the goal of your inmost drive
    And seeing one so fair, so glorified,
    The fount of yearning tears was straightway dried…

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