Will a Western Led Coalition Attack Syria: What Will be the Likely Consequences?

Submitted by Yardbroom
 Allegations continue to swirl that Syria used chemical weapons against its own people

Allegations continue to swirl that Syria used chemical weapons against its own people

It would appear that the United States of America will lead a coalition, which will attack Syria because of allegations that Syria used chemical weapons against its own people.  US Secretary of State John Kerry in an emotional speech has said it is undeniable that there was large scale indiscriminate use of chemical weapons in Syria by the Assad regime and for this there must be accountability.

As I write a definite decision has not been taken or if it has the public has not been told – we can no doubt expect President Obama to have his say in a matter of days.  However, if I have read the mood music correctly, the record is now playing to a logical conclusion.

How will Russia, China and most importantly Iran, allies of Syria in this “situation” up to now, respond?

This action if taken has the potential to launch a fire-ball in the Middle East and we should also note that this action is not dependent on a UN sanction.

How will this action play out and where will it lead?  On BU (Barbados Underground) we are often ahead of the game.  On this one at least when it blows,  it will be in our sights.

218 thoughts on “Will a Western Led Coalition Attack Syria: What Will be the Likely Consequences?


  1. David, August 28, 2013 @ 2:36PM
    “The greater impact in the context of the discussion is that the so called rebels when elevated to power always go rouge.”
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    The most important thing about generalisations is that they are often not common.

    I do recall Nelson Mandela and the ANC were not even called rebels. They were terrorists, so said Margaret Thatcher. Now we all know what they really were, in comparison to the South African Government. I have made no effort to compare them to the fighters in Syria – it is just sometimes I am a little uneasy about generalisations.


    • @Yardbroom

      It is a matter of record that many of the rebel factions have been part of so called organizations which the US have fought against in other jurisdictions.


  2. Military intervention in Syria needs United Nations approval. Germany, the United Kingdom, United States and others await United Nations approval but the United Nations today has quested four days additional time for investigating.

    If the United States attack Syria without approval of the United Nations and or congress, Obama is surely in HOT WATER mandating impeachment. Now, if Syria attacks the United States directly, Obama may then declare war, without congress and the United Nations approval. Other than hacking Twitter and the New York Times, Syria is not a threat to the United States. Obama would be wise to hold tight the horse reins.

    The United Nations meanwhile has quested four days additional time.


  3. @ David

    The United States Congress approved the Iraq war. Bush remained president only because congress approved the Iraq war. Obama yet has not received approval from either the United States Congress or the United Nations. Knows he will be packing his bags and moving out of the white house without approval of either the United States Congress or the United Nations.


  4. David,
    “@ Yardbroom it is a matter of record that many of the rebel factions have been part of so called organizations which the US have fought against in other jurisdictions”.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    I have no intention of defending the rebel factions. If the US, the UK and others have evidence that the Syrian regime used chemical weapons against civilians……..just produce that evidence.


  5. Syria no doubt has chemical weapons and will expose them when attacked. This perhaps is the United States thinking but risky.


  6. http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920606001493

    Only President Putin has impress us thus far. And David, we believe this unimaginable madness is going to be far worse that first seemed. See above. We now have Putin, who has had his military on high alert, giving a standing order for a large scale assault on Saudi Arabia if the West attacks Syria. The globalist are really seeking to deliver world war three. Putin has our full support. If war starts we hope he puts a number of missiles up that black boy’s rear end too. Whatever happens after that happens, we are tired of his hegemonic bull*****.


  7. Word coming out of London is that David Cameron has agreed that tomorrow’s vote will “not” now decide if to attack Syria. The Labour Party is being cautious as are some members of the conservative party. . . opinion polls are also indicating the public is against any rush before the United Nations report – the lessons of Iraq have made a mark.


  8. I have not got a clue who used chemical weapons in Syria. It is true that a substance was used which caused deaths to people – many of them children – in great distress.

    Does that prove Syria used chemical weapons, because they have a stockpile? – no it does not. That also does not mean the rebel fighters used chemical weapons.

    In trying to ascertain “fact” we must find evidence, that a body has been found does not mean Peter did it, because he walked along that road last night……you need more than that.


    • The big issue (distrust) is that we have Iraq which some use as the benchmark for US transparency in this kind of a matter. Up to now there has been no evidence of WMD and Bush eventually subsequently justified his decision by stating Hussien was a dictator who by his actions had to be removed. Who will believe if the US says it has evidence? This time it will not be so simple to execute.


  9. Do you know that the USA is not even a signatory to the use of chemical weapons treaty. We wonder why. If you wanted another item of hypocrisy.


  10. @ Pachamama | August 28, 2013 at 5:49 PM |
    “We now have Putin, who has had his military on high alert, giving a standing order for a large scale assault on Saudi Arabia if the West attacks Syria. ”

    That threat would be the move to call checkmate on the Western hawks as they back down from the Syrian maelstrom. Syria is Not Iraq and its oil reserves are not worth it.

    No need to worry yet about WW111.


  11. typical stupidity just like taking troops out of afganistan on a certain time frame , obama tips his hand now has to put up or shut up or america looks like a toothless dog,. in the real world who cares about 1000 deaths the problem is someone used chemical weapons, which is just as distressing to russia , china, britain or any country, someone has to lay the law down , probably the us, there will be posturing ,but everyone will be on board


  12. @ Miller

    You are missing the main points. Firstly, they want a gas pipeline from Qatar through Syria to Europe to challenge Russia’s supply dominance over Western Europe. These are the real issues. Secondly, substantial gas/oil reserves have been found off Syria. Remember, it is not always about having the resources though, control of pipelines/access are/is even more important, strategically. They determine who gets what and at what price. Control of the spicget. Thirdly, we are talking about a New Great Game where the players are competing for access to Central Asia. Now, you can’t do that unless to control Iran. Iran is the most important player in the New Great Game. And you can’t take Iran unless you shorten its strategic depth and eliminate its allies.Go figure!


  13. We would like to call on senior officers in the USA military to refuse any illegal orders and arrest Obama for attempting to wage an illegal war.


  14. @ David
    That is far too simplistic a judgement for us but you are free to make that judgement. It is a judgement that ignores ‘balance’ instead of hegemony. It is impossible for any foreign power to subdue Islam. That is the lesson that should be learnt, by now.


  15. @ David

    If the White, Occidentalists controlled 70% of the oil/gas resources of the world they would be running things forever. They don’t but still feel they have a right to.


  16. @ Pachamama | August 29, 2013 at 5:20 AM |

    Appreciate your info on the strategic importance of Syria and its potential to be a major player in gas production. Brings a slightly different slant to the geopolitics.
    But how would Turkey with similar geopolitical clout feature in this scenario? Which side would the Turks be on?

    Given Turkey’s “Janus-like” geopolitical position torn between the influence of Western materialism and Islamic obedience how would a Turkish Islam-based government respond to a war where Syria is the game prize?

    Isn’t Islam being used the same way Christianity was used to spread Western Capitalism and exploit other country’s resources and to abuse the indigenous people and adulteration of their cultures?

    What is Russia’s goal in all of this ME imbroglio? Is the old bear expecting a new lease of life as a superpower? After all, it already had its day in the sun and with a fast declining population (almost at the point of demographic collapse) and not enough immigration to keep the economy in a steady state of growth we fail to see how Russia can ever be a big player again despite its huge land mass and fortunate endowment with massive natural resources.

    China needs access to both land and resources for future expansion and flex its growing superpower muscles.
    Can you ever imagine a situation where the dragon would contemplate an incursion into the bear’s empty territory to lay its eggs?


  17. @ The Miller

    A lot of what you say is right. The Turks have a misguided notion of a Neo- Ottoman Empire. That is a non-starter. None of these players, and we mean none, is interested in religion except as a means to achieve geo-political, geo-strategic goals. Qatar has the second largest gas resources in the world. Iran has the third largest. Russia has the largest by far. Iran is a regional power, not only because it controls the third largest gas resources. It also has the second largest, some say third, largest proven oil resources. In addition it controls sea lanes and pipelines. Most of Qatar’s gas is in shared fields with Iran in the Persian Gulf and Iran is the lead developer on those projects. Iran is constructing a pipeline through Iraq to Syria and Lebanon and then on to Europe. This will give the Iranians more control of Qatari gas thereby massively extending its influence in the region. The West does not want this because it represents a strategic defeat to have the Iranians with such additional power. Iran is Russia’s ally, so is Syria. This alliance works to Russia interests because they are partners in a coming gas OPEC. That alliance will coordinate decisions that could hold Western Europe to ransom. This is the power America has always exerted over the Europeans. It never really wanted the oil and gas resources, per se. What it always wanted to control the spigot and the sea lanes and pipelines. A hegemony that it also want to use against China by bolstering its forces in the South China Sea and stopping the Iranians from constructing pipelines through Pakistan to India and China.

    All of this means a marked diminution in the power of the Occidentalists ( Americans and Europe) and will be a significant contribution to the fall of Empire. These are the kinds of issues over which wars are fought. Should the US loose this strategic battle, especially at the political level, because that is why you fight wars, to gain political victories, it will mean a fast decline of the American Empire. This is what we call the Grand Chess Board. This type of confrontation always happens when an Empire is waning. Even Barbados, did not get ‘independence’ because the British wanted to. We now know that the Americans forced the British out of its colonies. And its the corporations in the American that would get little of this action, whereas Russian and Iranian corporation will have the lion share.


  18. Wunna can strategise And speculAte all wunna want .the time has come for The USA and its coalition to deploy military forces in Syria and free the people from that military dictator ….Pachaman u sound so dumb in your call to have obama charge for attempting to wage an illegal war. How dumb can u be .Obama has not even deployed any forces to syria neither have he made a statement to support your dumb comment so what charges and what should he be arrested for.


  19. AC-DC
    Only the UN can declare a war on a sovereign state, except in self defense. You call us ‘dumb’ but yet we have not found a more ignorant person than you. And we know we have though you a lot. Even on these matters we believe that your single celled brain has no understanding of event.

    According to international even the threat of war is a crime, no different than war itself. Yuh fuc888ing c-hole.


  20. Blockades, sanctions, threats of war, military presence and a lot of other conditions constitute war. In fact, it is Syria that can rightly attach America in its self-defense and do so legally, MUTTLY


  21. @ Pachamama | August 29, 2013 at 9:17 AM |
    “These are the kinds of issues over which wars are fought. Should the US loose this strategic battle, especially at the political level, because that is why you fight wars, to gain political victories, it will mean a fast decline of the American Empire. This is what we call the Grand Chess Board. This type of confrontation always happens when an Empire is waning. ”

    Your analysis of the current geopolitics is well argued and convincingly enlightening.
    All the classic signs of an Empire being hoisted with its own petard and about to fall are there to see by those with intellectually keen eyes and a sound grasp of history and political economy.
    We can see you are such a keen aficionado of world events and geopolitics.

    You must remember that Obama is a lame duck president and has nothing to gain by attacking Syria other than going down in history as the first black President of the modern Roman Empire who was in office when the first modern nuclear war was fought in the current Precession of the equinoxes. We don’t think he is made of such stern egoistical stuff.
    The UN report would present inconclusive unreliable evidence with the threats and sabre rattling consequentially dying down and leading to a way out to save face.


  22. We are convinced that 99% of the people of the world are ignorant. Whatever the ‘officials’ say they believe. To list above we can also add spying, like Obama is doing on the world. Why because there is a global war for resources conducted by a criminal Obama for his masters.


  23. The Miller said. ”You must remember that Obama is a lame duck president and has nothing to gain by attacking Syria other than going down in history as the first black President of the modern Roman Empire who was in office when the first modern nuclear war was fought in the current Precession of the equinoxes. We don’t think he is made of such stern egoistical stuff.
    The UN report would present inconclusive unreliable evidence with the threats and sabre rattling consequentially dying down and leading to a way out to save face.”

    We are afraid these issues are bigger than Obama. He is more interested to keeping the ‘real’ promises he made to the people behind his throne. Essentially to continue the work of Clinton (Kosovo) and Bush (Iraq, Afghanistan). There is no difference, same agenda.


  24. Yes, we were saying that because the actions of America and others constitute acts of war. Syria now has a legal right to self defense and can now act to preempt American aggression and do so legally.


  25. millertheanunnaki | August 29, 2013 at 11:12 AM |
    @ Pachamama | August 29, 2013 at 9:17 AM |
    “These are the kinds of issues over which wars are fought. Should the US loose this strategic battle, especially at the political level, because that is why you fight wars, to gain political victories, it will mean a fast decline of the American Empire. This is what we call the Grand Chess Board. This type of confrontation always happens when an Empire is waning. ”

    Your analysis of the current geopolitics is well argued and convincingly enlightening.
    All the classic signs of an Empire being hoisted with its own petard and about to fall are there to see by those with intellectually keen eyes and a sound grasp of history and political economy.
    =================================================
    sir you are very correct
    power will shift back to europe so that the kings of the west will come into vogue

    the kings of the north east and south are clearly defined already

    VERY INTERESTING


  26. Georgie Porgie
    We beg to disagree. The Western Europeans cannot be the beneficiaries in geo-strategic terms. In fact, soon from now they will have wars between themselves.


  27. Where is that stupid AC-DC ‘holes’! We wonder if this AC_DC is so bright why she does not help David populate this blog with some scholarly articles that represent her conservative friends or the people she allows to think for her on CNN and elsewhere. The submission of articles to David for publication and the defense of a body of work would be better than being an eternal gutter snipe. Write some articles for David!


  28. U pachaman u ought to thankl your luicky stars that u don.t live under the kind of dictatorships like those inherited by ASS-ad cause for all that hate and spite that you throw at america under them regimes u defending your ass would have been incinerated by now. It is good when u looking inside out sitting on a comfortable whoopi seat. now tell that sh..ite u spouting here to those who ass is being chemically fried by a govt who believes they have owernship to country and people …dumb ass.


  29. Obama has convinced me and many more that he’s not at all imbecilic. He is, you may and may know is a Harvard law school graduate and recipient of the 2009 Nobel peace prize accompanying 1.4 million dollars. Unlike the University of West Indies, Harvard, is ivy league, a college of prestige. The black boy, president of the United States a superpower and commander in chief to one of the largest militaries in the world has pre-positioned (4) Navy battleships and military fighter jets in the eastern Mediterranean. He has that much power that black boy. He, that black boy I believe will bypass traps set by China and Russia and will not make the same mistakes as did his predecessor, George Bush. The black boy I believe will prove himself.
    The United States is ready to strike. The United Nations Council is divided with Russia and China in the way; both have exercised veto power on the United Nations Council. Obama therefore can and may go ahead without the United Nations approval. If, indeed Obama makes decision to strike Syria, he must first receive congressional approval. He knows this. There is a reason for everything. Russia and China have developed closed ties with the Middle East. Unlike Obama, their interest is purely the oil. The Middle East is now China’s only source of oil import. Russia like the United States has oil, lots of it but wants to dominate Middle East oil. Russia and China, therefore will safeguard Syria. Once again, there is a reason for everything. The Obama administration on Wednesday denied Syria’s request to extend the stay of chemical weapons inspectors; this is a RED FLAG. Obama knows this.
    In the end, don’t be surprise if the Norwegian Nobel Committee put in his face (Barack Obama) another Nobel Peace Prize.


  30. AC-DC
    How is any ‘dictationship’ worse than the elected dictatorship of Barbados or the elected dictatorship of American or even China. Because fools like you could vote once every five years, you think you live in a ‘democracy’. Democracy is essentially an economic system, has very little to do with politics, fool. You live in the right place – a fool’s paradise. Even if the Syrian government were a dictatorship it must be a matter for the Syrian people to deal with, not dogooders who want to steal their things and create chaos in their country – not your ‘humanitarian’ war hawks who have hidden agendas.

    If your intellectually dwarfed ilk cares so much about people. What about the 6 million people of the eastern DRC that have been killed, almost in silence, by weapons supplied by Western powers over the last 15 years. It was these same powers which supplied Saddam with chemical weapons to kill Iranians and Iraqis. It was the war hawk Obama who used chemical weapons, through his proxy Israel, in Lebanon and Gaza. You would not have any tears for them, would you? Wasn’t it your criminal humanitarian interventionists that just went into Libya. Now that country in far worst than at anytime under Qaddafi. And AC-DCs like you and Obama and Cameron should pay the ultimate price that the ICC imposes on war criminals.

    You and your people lack the moral authority to judge the worst countries in the world because you are that. We trust that the Syrian people and their allies have the means to launch a defensive and preemptive strike against anyone that would violate their rights or threaten them, while they continue to KILL the Takfiri and al-Queda terrorists supported by the Prince of Darkness, Barack Hussain Obama, and his henchmen in Europe. But foolie, the fifth, when you gine help David populate this blog with your scholarly interventions. It takes us less than an hour, sometimes less, to write one. You must have an hour sometimes, no?


  31. Obama during campaigning acknowledged his American enemies: Mitt Romney, Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, Newt Ginrich, etc. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmoRJbA4Rvo&w=420&h=315]
    Obama preparing for war in Syria acknowledges his enemies, says to them (China and Russia) “I fear no evil. . . . have prepared a table before you, mine enemies.


  32. YES nitwit not see u trading places. When last u applied for residency in anyone of your friendly countries .. think so! i think not cause for all the horse shit u spout here on BU about democratic countries even with imperfections u not leaving no time soon. .Just a lot of hot air coming from a long winded gas/bag.


  33. We travel to these places all the time and we love them and shall defend them always against all comers. These peoples are far superior to you useless nincompoops. But of course an untraveled idiot who likes the ac-dc thing would not know that.


  34. Let america do the job of establishing human rights for all across the world.so the untravelled idiot like ac can travell without hesitation worying about terrorist standing on every corner. this untravelled idiot knows an the fact that freedom is a right..the captalist dogma can be dealt with on another page.but for now ASS-ad and the other dictators need to be melted down fast with some heavy artillery pushing them out the way and if u pachaman get in the way america i hope will show u no mercy.


  35. You are indeed a female rabbit! Is this the same Obama who just helped an army to overthrow a duly elected government in Egypt. Give us death before a dependence of the likes of this Prince of Darkness – Obama.


    • Let the games begin. Let us see if Putin is bluffing that he will strike SA if the US and co attack Syria.


  36. @ Pachamana

    You I think are insulted because that black boy Obama is president of a super power country, not you.

    Hitler we know slaughtered millions of jews mostly via chemical weapons; this was open and obvious. Journalist, Timothy Snyder says Stalin in Russia slaughtered more, more than Hitler.http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/?pagination=false This also was open and obvious. Russian hands are NOT CLEAN. China also does not have clean hands. http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/chinese-students-protest-against-government What China did to those protesting students was UNHUMANITARIAN but China wants that Middle East oil and needs its.


  37. @David | August 29, 2013 at 3:56 PM |
    “Let the games begin. Let us see if Putin is bluffing that he will strike SA if the US and co attack Syria.”

    It will not come to that. You are looking at Armageddon with the possible use of nuclear weapons with Iran and Israel at the forefront.
    These guys are just playing ego games on the political chess board with Syria being the queen piece at this point in time. Just madness from the Summer’s heat that would soon abate and the verbal warfare would end like a true zero-sum game.

    An attack on Saudi Arabia would mean the apocalypse predicted for December 2012 would be upon us 9 months delayed as a result of the accumulated wobble of the Earth’s axis as its spins around its parent star.


  38. You are looking at Armageddon with the possible use of nuclear weapons with Iran and Israel at the forefront.

    NOT ARMAGEDDON YET SIR


  39. @ LOOK

    You really think anybody who writes like this could even get anywhere near a major party nomination, far less more the White House. LOL


  40. Reports coming out of London, BBC:
    In the UK the Syria vote has been defeated in Parliament, as of “NOW” the UK will not be involved in any military action against Syria.


  41. @ Yardbroom
    Not so quick. Although, formally, they can’t get a parliamentary sanction, there are many ways the people who make wars can find all kinds of pretexts to intervene. Be careful.


  42. @ LOOK | August 29, 2013 at 5:06 PM |
    “The game is Fencing – Obama &Putin. Obama has espee weapons as does Putin. One will win and one will lose.”

    There will be no winner or loser in this rattling of sabres. There will be no attack on Syria by the USA. The Putin threat on Saudi Arabia has put paid to that notion. The sidekick Cameron has been severely injured and is out of commission. France will not partner with the USA unless the UK is on board. The only way Syria will be attacked is if Israel is “dragged” into the conflict.
    You are that knowledgeable to understand that history only remembers and highlights the extreme evil and very little good that political leaders did. Very few (if any) leaders of superpower states over the ages are ever remembered as “Great” unless they have led their individual country or nation through a well known war. Check history and you will see.
    Neither Obama nor Cameron would have such a place in history.
    Maybe Obama would feature as a footnote because of him being the first black president of the USA instead of his intellectually superior Frederick Douglas.


  43. Hi Pachamama,
    I know where you are going however, David Cameron said from the dispatch box, in response to a question – requesting confirmation – by Miliband leader of the Labour opposition. That he will “not” use the “Royal Perogative”. “Now” the matter is at an end.


  44. @ Miller

    You have a reading and comprehension problem. Executed only a demonstration. Never said the United States would actually attack. Obama has not uttered his decision. You do not know if the United States will or will not attack, neither do I. Do you really think Putin will resign to enter war with Syria? If only you had a brain. Now go back to your rabbit hole and just keep quiet. If you have room in it for Pachamana, put him into it (rabbit hole) with you.


  45. @ Yardbroom
    We understand, but our point of departure is NEVER to trust politician. We judge them by their actions, not words.


  46. Cameron is being asked to resign in Britain tonight, the tories humbled and humiliated him letting him know in no uncertain terms that they will not help him go to war……sign of the times.


  47. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v325wdgoFH4&w=420&h=315]

    [If] Obama has to fight ALONE, I think he will. Contrary to what Miller (poster) thinks, Obama does not fear President Bashar al-Assad and or his main supporter President Putin. He has in place already (4) fully loaded battleships, not yet telling them what he is going to do but showing them what he can and may do.


  48. @ LOOK | August 29, 2013 at 6:49 PM |
    “You have a reading and comprehension problem. Executed only a demonstration”

    I take that as a compliment coming from you. But to get back to the meaning of your statement “One will win and one will lose.” Unless you are speaking figuratively in reference to the political game of egotism between the two mentioned characters in their personal vendetta of snubbing and racism how can Obama ever win unless he actually declares war against Syria and orders an attack?

    In your response to clarify exactly what you mean by “One will win and one will lose” just remember to be kind to dumb animals, especially your brother rabbit without brains.

    If you have to use your ‘épée’ just make it quick and sharp or you might just fall on it. Touché!


  49. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeRMOOg9ztw&w=420&h=315]

    @ Miller

    Please stay down there in your hole and keep quite, Elmer Fudd is out rabbit hunting and will shoot you.


  50. IRAQ forget Iraq just about the same arguments ,UN went in and armagedon did not not happen, Russia and CHina did absoluetly nothing. Israel was not annilated, the same ole arguments,


  51. Everybody is so concerned to jump on their soapbox to denounce various Western world leaders etc. on this matter. Oil and gas political power, alliances etc. What about the humanitarian angle? Could it not be construed that a country went to the aid of the people of Syria who are having a horrible time, shot at, bombed and now gassed? The Arab League should be the first to intervene on purely humanitarian grounds.

    If I were Obama I would subdue my feelings and not go in, just because of the repercussions, masses of abuse and potential Islamic terrorist revenge any intervention would generate. To me it is clear that the Assad regime stinks, he is responsible for widespread slaughter. I’d love to go in there and clean it up. Syria is a wonderful country with fabulous culture, history, archaeology, ruins and very sweet people, have visited there many times. It is virtually unspoiled by tourism and had the largest ancient underground souk in the world, a fascinating marvel until just recently when it was blown up. Three kilometres of underground markets, selling spice, fabrics, carvings etc. The ruins of Palmyra, Crac des Chevaliers and other sites – the whole country is like a World Heritage site.

    The problem is that Syria, like Turkey is not an Islamic state as such. They may be Muslim but they are not really part of the Arab world in the sense of Saudi Arabia. People didn’t have to wear the veil etc., wine is allowed One fears that the collapse of the Assad regime would lead to yet more Islamisation, with the accompanying loss of basic human rights.

    So what to do? It is NOT all about the oil. If asked to vote on whether to go in or not, how would you vote and why?


  52. @ Well Well

    Don’t see that publishing “the British tories TODAY asked David Cameron to resign”. Where did you get that?


  53. LOOK | August 29, 2013 at 8:03 PM |

    @ Well Well

    Don’t see that publishing “the British tories TODAY asked David Cameron to resign”. Where did you get that?
    ___________________________________

    Check out the Daily Mail, it was news tonight not today.


  54. The British voted no, no intervention in Syrian war but Cameron may later ask for another vote. Obama also must receive a yes or no vote from the United States congress. Cameron cannot step over or above the no vote. Obama also cannot step over or above a no vote that he receives from the United States congress.


  55. Little over a week ago the crisis was in Egypt, a very important ally in America’s sphere of control in the area and the one that keeps Hisbola in check from gaining weapons that would harm Israel (another important ally)). The situation there was getting-out of control because of the action the Egyptian Army took in trying to smash the so-called Muslim Brotherhood. America, her Western Allies and their sanctimonious Democracy was being exposed as a sham. The bullets that went into the throats, faces and heads of the protesters entered that very “Democracy” and caused it to bleed like a hemophiliac. The blood needed to stemmed before the Very Important Patent bled to death.

    One official figure From the Muslim Brotherhood) said those killed were 1000 and the military Official figure said 600. the situation was tense and getting tenser as the Sacred Democracy bled. Something extraordinary had to happen to stop the bleeding. (remember that the World-Media was a conduit through which the blood was flowing…need I go any further??? OK, a transfusion was needed to keep the patient alive while the doctors patch-up the patient. The blood of the Syrians had to flow (through the conduit of the said World-Media) to keep the patient (America, her Western allies and their sanctimonious Democracy) alive.


  56. comparing what is happening in Syria to Iraq is somewhat distorted ,Anyone with a conscience seeing the horror and bloodshed daily coming out of Syria would be less hesitant to conclude that the two situations are the same. Even without the use of chemicals weapons. this situation calls for some form of military intervention. so far sanctions have not worked and thousands of people are being killed all because of Ass-ad intent on holding on to power

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/28/world/meast/syria-iran-warning/index.html


  57. I believe a military attack is out of the question as the US allies have reflected on the lessons of Iraq and the tainted “intelligence” that was used as evidence to launch that confrontation.

    The US is fairly confident that there is a Syrian version of “Chemical Ali” in the brother of Assad who is alleged to have given the order to launch the gas attacks, at this stage the US is somewhat willing to go it alone because they think that if Assad gets away with this attack he will look to Israel as his next target.

    If that happens Assad would have signed his own death warrant and the whole tinder box that is the Middle East would be like a moonscape.


  58. Sargeant said
    ”If that happens Assad would have signed his own death warrant and the whole tinder box that is the Middle East would be like a moonscape.”

    This is an inversion on reality that could only come from a Bajan. It is Obama who has signed his death warrant by waging war for two years on Syria.


  59. the psychological effects that lives in minds after the aftermath of Iraq should not be an excuse and deterrent in getting rid of Ass-ad, while the world looks on in horror !procrastinate Ass_ad continues his evil ways of unleashing deadly bombing attacks laced with arsenic on unarmed men women and children. america must do what is right and take a stance to what is becoming a 21st century genocide at the highest order,


  60. Ac- observe how the anti-American detractors are conveniently forgetting to mention the belligerence of France led by a socialist President in pushing vehemently for action against the Syrian regime which the American government as well as the British parliament has wisely resisted up to now.


  61. Only President Putin has impress us thus far
    IMPRESSED WHOM? PACHA
    Is this the same KGB operative who is jailing his opponents and ruthlessly squashing dissent in the Russian federation. Attack Saudi Arabia, what-
    if you believe that, then your knowledge of geo-politics is woefully deficient.

    wars and revolutions are started by bankers not politicians


  62. @ balance | August 30, 2013 at 8:21 AM |

    The Arab nations and Islamic caliphates need to be in the vanguard to sort out the mess in Syria. Let the Saudis and Turks invade Syria to remove Assad and stop the slaughter. If they make this move then the West should be prepared to back them up in whichever way. But as it stands the West has not moral or political justification for attacking Syria without being “officially” requested by the Arab nations and Islamic league of pontificates (who like to issue threats to the West) to provide military help.

    Why should the UK attack Syria when Saudi Arabia has acquired hundreds of billions of dollars in all kinds of sophisticated armaments and warplanes from the West? Let Saudi Arabia deploy this arsenal and be prepared to shed Arab and Muslim blood.
    Any invasion of Syria without the involvement of other Islamic players would only create a hot bed of terrorism in UK cities like Bradford and the many Islamic communities in place like east London.


  63. @balance | August 30, 2013 at 8:35 AM |
    “wars and revolutions are started by bankers not politicians”

    There is a grain of truth in that profound statement!
    By bankers we presume you mean money people and their agents. Remember war means business and opportunities for large easy profits since it creates both escalated demand for the war efforts and consumer shortages where the highest prices can be demanded.

    But what about priests or clerics of all religious colours especially those of the Roman Catholic War Council? Or are you classifying them as politicians, which you have every right to do?


  64. What terrorist what. Those who hate america would continue to unleash their suicidal bombings on embassys and countries that are friendly to america. Doesn,t need america attack on Syria for the terrorist to increase their deadly bombings as a matter fact one of the positive of america going ahead and attacking syria would be disseminating some of the terrorist cells within Syria known enemies of america


  65. What youn talking about miller the middle eastis a hot bed of a “holy war” however one must still be mindful of the fact that innoncent lives are involved and human rights are being violated and it is a m.oral and social responsibilty borne upon all that when citizens are victimised and murdered by govts. that all should take a moral stance against the agressor and for that reason america should not back down. The hard hearts of Britain yesterday left much to be desired as Syrians fend for themselves.


  66. No one votes on WAR against the USA when they are killing and jailing many of it own people, Bullets or GAS all still dead.


  67. @ ac | August 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM |

    We hate to do this to you ac but take this double whammy of a wind-cutter and belly-searcher.
    Will you be prepared to accept the arrival of the Trinidad army or Jamaica Defence Force in Barbados when your administration decides to crack head and shoot innocent people?


  68. Miller only if a tin horn dictator and communist conspircy lover like pachaman decides he is going to take over the rcock. Hell by all means roll out the artillery call in the calvary and crack some heads and if u foolish enough to get in the way. yours cracked too. Be that as it may i perceived the pachaman.s of this world only got big mout and good at agitating.


  69. Cameron is being asked to resign in Britain tonight, the tories humbled and humiliated him letting him know in no uncertain terms that they will not help him go to war……sign of the times

    would be good if politicians in our banana republics could take a leaf out of Mr Cameron’s book and allow the best traditions of democratic governance to function in the interest of the people and not party. nothing to be humiliated about. Parliament and NOT THE PARTY has spoken. GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS QUEEN.


  70. But what about priests or clerics of all religious colours especially those of the Roman Catholic War Council?

    They are bankrolled as well. As for the Roman Catholic denomination, surely you are aware that the Vatican controls one of the largest financial empires in the world.


  71. Any invasion of Syria without the involvement of other Islamic players would only create a hot bed of terrorism in UK cities like Bradford and the many Islamic communities in place like east London.

    Mr Miller- do you really believe that these conflagrations cropping up in the middle east and other rogue states around the world in the last twenty years or so are just happenstance or are really testing grounds as part and parcel of the grand scheme for the eventual imposition of the new world order when organised mayhem begins to touch places like Bradford and los Angeles and Bonn and Lahore etc.

    have been trying to find out without success why world leaders from both east and west pay visits to SILICON VALLEY THE CRADLE OF WORLD TECHNOLOGY IN CALIFORNIA sometimes without even visiting the WHITE HOUSE officially.


  72. Saturday 30 August, 2013
    From The White House: ” I have decided America should take military action against Syria but I will seek the support of the American Congress”. President Barack Obama


  73. Hi David
    The way it was outlined and delivered by the President, it appears there is no doubt that there will be a strike on Syria. The President said. If we do not act “now” how will we act when we are confronted with another problem, nuclear weapons. I interpret that as saying, then it will be too late: He is asking Congress to back him in America’s interest.


  74. To claim that the strike is legal from an American standpoint – if congress agrees but, if Congress votes against it, as they well might, to soften the backing-back when he does nothing because he knows full well that there is no justification for the strike. To satisfy the war lobby that he tried but Congress stopped him from helping them, thereby reducing the possibility of personal repercussions to himself and family from elements of that war lobby.


    • @checkit-out

      A reasonably analysis but why should he care what the war lobby thinks if he is lame duck?


  75. David
    He wants the Nation to be behind him through their representatives in Congress.

    In a calm very measured way, President Barack Obama delivered his address to the American people. He was not playing to the public. There was a look of measured calm about him, and a rod of steel upheld his countenance. . . he was assured and took no questions, all left to be said was done, the pieces are in place.

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