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The late Margaret Thatcher
The late Margaret Thatcher

Whether one is on the left or right of the political centre the legacy of Margaret Thatcher will be narrated differently. For many Barbadians she will be remembered as the British prime minister – in partnership with US president Ronald Reagan – who had the ‘balls’ to attack communism and hasten its dismantlement. For others she rightly earned the nick name Iron Lady because of her economic policies which had embedded the dismemberment of the labour movement not to forget her successful strike against Argentina to win back the Falkland islands.

The extreme views which Thatcher often provoked from the public during her tenure remain a talking point and will definitely characterize her legacy. BU’s acid test of her effectiveness as a political persona maybe defined by her 11 consecutive years of rule; the longest consecutive tenure by any UK prime minister since 1832.   It must be stated that infighting by the Labour Party during her tenure and the opportunity which the so called Falklands war presented obviously contributed to her success at the polls. Ironically it took a stab in the back by her political party to cause her demise.

What cannot be refuted is that Thatcher’s foreign policy made  her a major player on the world stage. Equally her domestic policies for a myriad of reasons resonated with world citizens. Surely there is no politician who is loved by everyone however part of Thatcher’s legacy was built on a political philosophy where she was prepared to defend her positions to the death. Agree with her views or not her willingness to fearlessly defend the courage of her convictions provoked admiration in the  BU household during her period of rule –  there is the  regret that many local politicians do not show a willingness to demonstrate a similar quality.

Thatcher’s position on how the UK should integrate in the EU should be flagged on her bio. It was a position which is analogous to what Barbados is currently confronted with Caricom. Pursue economic cooperation by all means but do not surrender our birthright in the process by selling of our indigenous institutions which are an embodiment of who and what we are as a people.

When the dust is settled on Thatcher’s legacy the cold reality must be factored. When Thatcher assumed the reins of government in 1979 the economy was  marking time. Some may recall that the International Monetary Fund was in Whitehall. On yesterday’s talk show Tony Hoyos and Tony Best were critical of the fact that the labour movement has not recovered from its battle with Thatcher to this day. What they neglected to mention is that when Thatcher assumed office the UK economy was under the heavy influence of a strong union movement. The record shows that before Thatcher was elected UK had to suffer innumerable strikes which affected its economic performance. Thatcher obviously assessed the situation and history shows she concluded that her economic policies would have been defeated if she did not address the union issue. Whether you agreed she showed leadership by her decisive decision making.

Even in death her request not to stage a state funeral on her behalf because she feared it would provoke a divisive debate in parliament tells a story. The UK government it has been reported will settle for a  ceremonial funeral on April 17, 2013.

May she rest in peace.


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186 responses to “Eulogising Baroness Margaret Thatcher”

  1. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Well Well

    Don’t stress your self!

    Since the man is a citizen of Barbados there is no problem. He has a paper trail in Barbados. All he has to do is to go to Electoral and Boundary Commission and they will have his data on file. He can apply for a new ID card, pay a small fee when he has collect it and he is good to go.

    If the people at the Nationnewspaper had any sense they would have given him a lift to town so that he could get a new ID card instead of writing foolishness in order to sell a few more newspapers.

    Another thing that he could do is to have a Justice Of The Peace endorsed his checks to a trusted friend or relative so that they could cash the checks for him.

    Plain and simple.

  2. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I wonder how much money Thatcher left in her will?

    It should be given to the displaced Miners and relatives of the Belgrano Navy cadets that she killed.


  3. People tend to admire those who have the blood of innocents on their hands……………

    That gentleman has tried all of that to get his ID card and everyone keeps giving him the run around………..they never seem to know what to do when it’s one of their own.


  4. @Carson C.Cadogan “the working class, were the ones who ended up taking care of her in the end.

    This is true.

    It has also always been the truth.

    The working class takes care of ALL of us.

    Everyday working class children bathe, fed, and dress our children, our elders, our sick.

    Working class people clean our houses and our business places, they cook our food, wash and iron our clothes, keep our yards, cricket and football fields, and our golf courses clean, keep the engines of industry running, the jet engines, the car engines, the factory engines.

    Family life, and industry would halt if working class stopped working.


  5. How remiss of me. After typing “your slip is showing” I went on to refer to her as “guy”. Apologies and thanks for spotting it but thereby hangs a tale, ladies are a rare species not often sighted on BU.


  6. Mind games are a part of warfare and the Belgrano was too big and inviting a target to miss of leave alone.
    I can remember occasions with the Indonesian incursions into North Borneo where their soldiers were free to roam their side of the border, creep across to our side and set up mortars and machine gun nests to unleash quick and surprised attacks.

    In the one case, a LZ (landing zone) prepared to give the impression it was there for helicopters. The Indonesians crept across the border and set up mortars at night which they unleashed at first light. What they didn’t know that it was a carefully set trap. Mortars on our side were ranged elsewhere to strike the same distance so when their mortars went off, from our side there was a barrage unleashed which blew the Indonesian team and their mortars to bits.
    On another occasion the Ghurka unit crossed the border against strict political orders they were not to do so and when 2 Indonesian soldiers appeared they picked one and shot him to bits whilst letting the other one to run off screaming about how horrible it was.

    It was a 2 way street, the Indonesians crossed the border and captured a Ghurka, his body with his balls stuffed in his mouth was put in a boat and floated down the river for our side to find.

    On another occasion they let the Ghurkas prepare an ambush position on our side and then rushed them inflicting casualties and I remember one survivor with a bullet hole in his back standing rigidly to attention as he was about to evacuated for treatment.

    Incidents like those are part of the psychological side of warfare with which to demoralise the enemy.

    The commanders on either side know one another quite well and even respect each other, but each is trying to outsmart the other.

    Dresden, the bouncing bombs of “Bomber” Harris … etc. are typical, they serve to weaken the opponent’s resolve and to send the message that they can’t win.

    If you can defeat the enemy psychologically you can defeat them with fewer losses.


  7. The late Baroness Thatcher rose from humble beginnings to become one of Britain’s most transformational leaders.

    Our esteem PM Freundel Stuart is very much in this vein.


  8. Adrian,
    I take it the same seamen who gallantly rallied to her call in the build-up to the Falklands war, the same seamen that she later told to go take a running jump because she had no further use for them.

    Without those seamen the Falklands could not have been retaken.

    If you were their victim, they were hers big time.


  9. @Fractured BLP

    With respect, you can shut the hell up because you are part of the problem.


  10. Hear!! Hear!!

  11. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    Sid, I was thinking more about the merchant seaman. I had a business at Britain’s largest container port, Felixstowe, which was virtually brought to its knees by bus loads of rent-a-thug members of the NUS (National Union of Seaman) who attacked and damaged much of my property and intimidated our staff and customers. My brother, joined Andrew Weir or Bank Line which once had the largest Merchant fleets under the Red Ensign. He started as a apprentice and left as a second officer, nine years later, when the excesses of the NUS reduced the fleet to two ships.
    Switzerland, a land locked country, now has a largest merchant fleet the Britain. I did not agree with everything Mrs Thatcher did, but there were a lot of things in the UK that had to be changed.

  12. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    DAVID

    “Our esteem PM Freundel Stuart is very much in this vein”

    FRACTURED BLP

    Mashin you corns!!!

    hahahahaha

  13. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    SID BOYCE

    “Mind games are a part of warfare and the Belgrano was too big and inviting a target to miss of leave alone.”

    Not really.

    The Belgrano was not the original English target!.

    “the aircraft carrier Veinticinco de Mayo which they could reasonably claim was a potential source of danger to our forces. So they searched the seas for the aircraft carrier but even with all the American satellites and GCHQ and all the rest of it, they failed to find the aircraft carrier”

    So thatcher turned her attention to the Belgrano.

    And don’t forget that an elections was looming in England and she Thatcher was fairing badly in the polls. So she needed a boost in the run up to the elections. Killing as many Argentinians was just the thing she need to push her over the top.

    It is a tactic which Tom Adams used in Barbados as well. When he came up with the bogus invasion of Barbados by SIDNEY BURNET ALLEYNE in order to win an election.

    The same tactic is used by Israeli politicians all the time. when elections are coming up, start a war with the Palestinians and you are sure to win at the polls.


  14. @CCCadogan
    So she did the people of Argentina a favour by murdering 321 Navy Cadets on the Belgrano?
    **************
    That’s quite a reach to suggest that I considered the sinking of the Belgrano as a favour to the Argentines. The reality is that the Argentine Generals miscalculated that the Brits would stand idly by when they occupied The Falklands, the results of their mistakes led to their eventual ouster from power.

    Today in Argentina The Falklands War while important plays a secondary role in any discussion when compared to the “Dirty War” waged against the Argentine citizens, if there is going to be any controversy about the current Pope it will pertain to his role in Argentina when the military was in power.


  15. How on earth today, can England,7900 miles from a few outcrops of rock 300 miles off the Argentinian cost,claim that as their own!If only Hugo had survived and united South America,England would be broke trying to protect the Malvinas from covert insurgents speaking spanish including a cuban contingent.


  16. @Gabriel Tackle
    If Hugo had survived maybe he would have cast his eyes on BG first, after all the Venezuelans (little Venice because of all the waterways) have a long standing claim to much of the territory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guayana_Esequiba

  17. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Much of Guyana really belongs to Venezuela. They are going to reclaim it one day.


  18. That has happened throughout history, greedy countries trying to lay claim to other countries sitting half way around the world from them, opportunity.


  19. I have some authority to discuss this moreso than others, because I just checked my email account and received something form none other than ‘Sir John Major’, something about United Nations and money….

    It did go to junk mail, though must be an error… 😉


  20. Many of the Argentinian soldiers in the Falklands war were treated worst by their own than by the British. During a close quarter attack by the British on an Argentinian defence trench, the British wondered why the Argentinians were not making an effort to defend or to retreat, then they discovered that the regular Officers and senior NCO’s of the Argentinian Army before cutting and running , had bayonetted the feet of those soldiers,severely crippling them , leaving them as cannon fodder to face the advancing British .
    Today ,31 years after the end of the Falklands Conflict, Argentine’s War veterans , are permanently camped out in make shift tents in the Plaza de Mayo, a stone throw from the Casa Rosado, the seat of power in Argentina , demanding justice and compensation .

  21. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “………..paedophile Chester MP Peter Morrison were close aides to Margaret Thatcher, she and her husband Denis were close friends of Jimmy Savile, the prolific supplier of children for the rich and famous”

    http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/75544-paedophile-rings–and-10-downing-street

  22. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “This is extremely significant when you think that Morrison was Parliamentary Private Secretary to Margaret Thatcher, one of her closest aides, leader of her campaign team in the Conservative leadership election of 1990 and a deputy chairman of the Conservative Party. Thatcher had paedophiles this close to her and record-breaking paedophile and child procurer Jimmy Savile as a close friend, regular visitor to her country home at Chequers and Christmas dinner guest.”

    http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/75544-paedophile-rings–and-10-downing-street

  23. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “To ensure this it was a case of ‘win by any means possible.’

    This attitude by the Tory government has sparked debate amongst people as to whether the tactics used by police were legal and whether they were even police at all but British Army soldiers.

    In many peoples opinion this came into play on the 18th of June 1984 at the Orgreave coking plant in South Yorkshire.

    On this day police and miners violently clashed with many injuries on both sides.

    This event was later dubbed ‘The Battle of Orgreave’.

    The media has always portrayed the 1984/85 Miners Strike as a left wing struggle led by the self proclaimed Communist, Arthur Scargill (National Union of Mineworkers leader at the time), but when studied in depth this is not entirely the case but was also a struggle for Nationalism against an oppressive Tory government who was hell bent on selling off British industry for big short term profit.

    This is why Chairman Nick Griffin MEP has called for an official enquiry to what really happened during the miners strike and in particular the events which took place at Orgreave, 18th of June 1984.”

    http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/still-fighting-against-oppressive-regime


  24. Hi Adrian,
    I agree lots of things needed change but not by scorched earth policies.
    Industry was decimated. It was much like creating a desert to get rid of a few weeds.


  25. Such a decision would have been in the sole hands of the force commander in the South Atlantic and not the Prime Minister or even the MOD.

    Rules of Engagement are clearly given to force commanders and passed down to all in his command, even then certain actions are carried out by subordinates that could be classed as at odds with orders, are sometimes so bold as to shock even the force commander. If the actions had led to serious casualties to forces under his command in the field a very dim view of his actions would be taken and consequences would follow. Of course that would not be made public.

    I have seen rules of engagement that were so stupid that if followed to the letter would have put troops at risk and I have know local commanders to ignore them.

    Naturally the force commander will demand to see the subordinate officer to be questioned as to why the rules of engagement weren’t followed.

    Conversely the commander of the Belgrano would have been questioned by his side and possibly sanctioned for any rash action he may have taken that led to tragedy.

    Taking raw recruits on a cruise into danger would have been foolhardy.

  26. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    DETAILS OF MRS THATCHER:S FUNERAL SERVICE

    THE MUSIC IS GOING TO BE GREAT!
    ANTHEM FROM BRAHM”S REQUIEM

    From Queen’s arrival to an exit accompanied by William Wordsworth: Order of Service for Margaret Thatcher’s funeral at St Paul’s Cathedral

    The funeral service for Baroness Thatcher will be held in London on Wednesday and include readings by David Cameron and her granddaughter Amanda Thatcher.

    Full Story:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309123/Margaret-Thatcher-funeral-Order-service-St-Pauls-Cathedral.html


  27. In life it seems we are free to let fly but in death there is a reverence which is fitting.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308954/Ding-Dong-The-Witch-Is-Dead-fails-hit-number-BBC-plays-offending-lyrics.html


  28. Well the bonny lady is on the way to her Maker.

  29. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | April 17, 2013 at 6:54 AM |

    The service at St. Paul’s Cathedral was indeed inspirationally delivered. Everything went to plan in true English tradition. No outbreaks of verbal protest or violence during the last farewell to the Iron Lady.

    The live photos inside the Cathedral offered a great opportunity to those true members of the Faith to reinforce their understanding and to see who the white man really believe is his god and master. The iconography says it all with the ostentatiously opulent Solar marquee on the floor of the Cathedral being the hidden keystone to the sanctum sanctorum. You know what the intellectual poets say: If you want to hide something leave it in plain sight of the masses.
    Maybe racist mr. correctto or harry callihan would wish to conflate the axiom and say: If you want to hide something from blacks put it in a book called the Bible.


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