Same Sex Couples And Their "Legal Right" To Marriage In Church

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Some Church members against same sex marriages

Some time ago I wrote a submission on BU (Barbados Underground) – A Step Too Far Or Fairness And Equality: Same Sex Partner’s Legal Rights asking the question with reference to same sex couples, Is Marriage A Step Too Far?  The subject matter generated much debate.  The BBC picked up the article and it was interesting to read/hear the views of that international audience who were not only divided but  had very trenchant opinions.

I revisit this subject only because in the interval between then and now the situation has completely changed.  In the submission I asked a tentative question, now with the likely change in the Law in England there is a possibility of same sex marriages being permitted in the churches there.

“Some” members of the Church of England – with strong religious views – are against the proposed change in the law and have been vociferous in their opposition.  If you ask how can a decision made in England impact on Barbados?  I simply add the church plays a major part in the lives of many Barbadians and the Anglican Church is a long established Church here.  Although an island Barbados cannot be completely insulated from the wider world, geographic position is no barrier to what we do or how we interact with others and sometimes  that interaction influences our thinking.

A lobby group formed  by MPs bishops and others who are against gay marriages in church have produced a leaflet:

“Keep Marriage Special” in which they assert”:

“If the only basis for marriage is the desire of the parties to get married then there is, according to the logic of this proposal, no reason not to open up marriage to more than just same-sex couples: Polygamy, polyandry and incest would all be permissible”.

This is rather strong stuff and do not believe for one moment this is an ordinary homophobic lobby group.  “The Keep Marriage Special campaign, vice-presidents include the Democratic Unionist MPs Nigel Dodds and Jeffrey Donaldson and Bishop David Samuel, president of the Protestant Reformation Society.  The campaign’s president is Vicount Brentford, of the Church Society.”

However, they have got even more powerful forces against them.  There is the Out 4 Marriage Campaign which the home secretary – Theresa May – is backing on this issue also in that camp is deputy prime minister Nick Clegg.  Prime Minister David Cameron also supports the proposed change in the Law but many conservative MPs are against it.  As if to rebutt the views expressed in the Keep Marriage Special Leaflet.  Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg is quoted as saying.:

“I’ve always been very clear on this issue: love is the same, straight or gay, so the civil institution should be the same too.  All couples should be able to make that commitment to one another, regardless of who they love.”

“A running survey of MPs stated views by the Coalition for Equal Marriage suggests 245 MPs are likely to support legalising gay marriage, with 62 against and 16 neutral.  The views of the remaining 327 MPs are not known.

It is sometimes very difficult to have a reasoned debate on gay issues, opposite opinions are often so entrenched with the belief that reason, religion and normality – whatever that is – is on their side, that they find it difficult to accept another point of view.  Regardless of if the Law is changed in England to allow gay marriages in church or not, you can be sure this issue will not quietly fade away.

There are problems which although difficult that must be confronted if we are to have an equal and just society.  In discussing issues of major change in subjects of this kind we must be conscious of the language we use, for language hardens opinions on both sides thus preventing reasonable debate sometimes personalizing the issue when there is no need to. . . . we are discussing real people.

Acknowledgement: Daniel Boffey, Sunday Observer {London)

0 thoughts on “Same Sex Couples And Their "Legal Right" To Marriage In Church


  1. The ALLIANCE BETWEEN THE CHURCH HOMOSEXUALS , PEDOPHILES AND SEXUAL DEVIANTS PART # 2.

    THERE IS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THAT THE CHURCH IS PROMOTING HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHILIA BOTH OVERTLY AND COVERTLY.

    THE HOMOSEXUALS AND PEDOPHILES IN THE CHURCH CAN NO LONGER BE CONTAINED , THEY ARE LUSTING FOR YOUNG BOYS.

    Irish Priest Accidentally Flashes Gay Porn During First Communion Meeting

    By Katie Kindelan , ABC NEWS , April /02/2012.

    A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland has found himself in hot water after he accidentally displayed a series of pornographic gay images during a presentation to parents of children preparing to receive First Holy Communion.
    Father Martin McVeigh projected 16 “indecent images of men” on a projector screen during a March 26 PowerPoint presentation to a group of 26 parents at St. Mary’s School in Pomeroy, Ireland, the BBC reports.
    McVeigh has said he had no knowledge of the images. Parents in attendance told the BBC the images appeared on the screen from a memory stick the parish priest had inserted into a computer before the presentation. According to The Associated Press, parents who attended the meeting have demanded in a letter that McVeigh be suspended and barred from their children’s First Communion.
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    Gay priest fearful ahead of memoirs publication

    By Nick Bramhill

    Tuesday, April 10, 2012 , IRISH EXAMINER.

    A priest fears he will be defrocked after his explosive memoirs, containing intimate details of a 14-year marriage to another gay man, are published next month.

    Fr Bernard Lynch, who is openly gay and thinks gay priests make up 50% of the Catholic clergy, discloses for the first time his relationship with fellow Irishman Billy Desmond in his forthcoming autobiography.
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    Ex-priest guilty of conspiring to kill boy who accused him of rape
    By David Edwards
    Friday, May 18, 2012 12:47 EDT,THE RAW STORY.

    A former Roman Catholic priest was found guilty on Thursday of hiring a hit man to kill a boy who had accused him of sexual abuse.

    John Fiala, 53, showed no emotion as a Dallas jury found him guilty of plotting to kill the boy, according to The Dallas Morning News. He faces a possible sentence of life in prison.

    Prosecutors said that Fiala had tried to hire at hit man for $5,000 in November 2010, but the would-be assassin turned out to be an undercover police officer…….

    Tom Rhodes, an attorney for the accuser, in 2008 said that Fiala had been “grooming” the boy by buying him gifts like a computer and a car. By providing private catechism lessons, the attorney added, the then-priest “gained access to him and began to sexually abuse him once or twice a month, including on church grounds.”

    The 20-year-old victim, who was 16 at the time of the alleged sexual abuse, testified with graphic details about his ordeal.

    “He turns off the light and bad things start happening,” he recalled.

    The accuser said that attacks took place in Fiala’s rectory and in vehicles. At one point, he said Fiala “put a gun to the boy’s head in forcing him to perform a sex act,” the paper reported.

    After several years of abuse, the teen eventually disclosed the relationship to a school counselor who notified authorities.

    Source: Raw Story (http://s.tt/1d8An).


  2. “is it asking too much of ourselves after their sacrificing for others to give back so little to them in return when all they are asking is for some of the rights that some of them fought and died for think for a moment who these people are and not be blinded by bigotry and prejudice for when it comes right down to it we are all god’s people ”
    AC, nobody is denying the queers their rights, they are free to indulge in their abnormal behaviours provided they do not run counter to the norms of societyand proviedthy re not giv the right toinfluene young minds by havng the right to adopt children.

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  3. It seem many of you are taking a few isolated cases and branding the entire christian community with it. Since many of you are so oppse to the church, then why would you want to be maaried in one?


  4. @balance | July 11, 2012 at 6:19 AM |
    “….. they are free to indulge in their abnormal behaviours provided they do not run counter to the norms of society ……”

    Dear balance, in the interest of fair debate and discussion could you please let us know what are these “NORMS OF SOCIETY”? At least give us some examples so that we can see some balance to your position!


  5. @ the scout | July 11, 2012 at 7:42 AM |
    “Since many of you are so oppose to the church, then why would you want to be married in one?”

    No body in their right mind would oppose the Church, perse. What they are opposing is the blatant hypocrisy and its failure to apologise for its past atrocities and flagrant discriminatory practices against minority groups or enslaved and exploited blacks.

    Shouldn’t those homosexuals (both male and female) who are part of the existing Christian community and make up a minority proportion of the regular congregation be given the same blessings and acceptance as the so-called ‘normal’ congregation? Forget about the bread and fish homos who don’t attend church because of the stigma attached. Let us talk about the doctors, lawyers, teachers, accountants and other revered members of society like politicians and business persons. Or are you in denial that homosexuals also make up the “Sunday (or Saturday)-go-to-meeting” hypocritical brigade?

    We fair minded contributors do not want to be married in the Church. A magistrate, ship captain or some other marriage officer would do just fine whether we are heterosexual couples or same-sex couples. What we want to see is fairness, honesty and recognition of people’s human rights. I am certain you would agree that a modern-day version of Jesus would still be a ‘Good Samaritan’ in the gay and lesbian community as, it is written, he did among the whores and lepers, disabled and other social outcast in his time.


  6. The evidence shows that homosexual target children .

    Child porn and molestation scandal shocks SF, ruins Gay Pride public relations blitz

    A horrifying child pornography and molestation scandal involving a high profile San Francisco gay rights activist has rocked the city’s political scene; compounding the nightmare, the scandal broke at the worst possible moment, the day after San Francisco’s Pride Parade, which was the culmination of a month-long public relations blitz promoting LGBT equality…

    S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn

    San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.

    Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s department.

    The district attorney’s office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges. “We’re still reviewing the case,” district attorney’s spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.

    Police say that Brinkin had pornographic images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.

    Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e-mail attachments from one of its subscriber’s accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.

    The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.

    San Francisco investigators say the account was registered to Brinkin, and that he paid for the e-mail service with his credit card.

    Police provided two examples of e-mail messages from last year in which Zack3737 provides disturbing descriptions of the exploitive sexual acts.

    The e-mail account also is linked to Yahoo discussion groups on sexual exploitation of young boys and girls, according to the search warrant.
    From , S.F. Chronicle.


  7. LINK BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHILIA.

    Bill Donahue says all priest pedophiles are gay
    By JAMES COOPER,
    Published Monday, July 26, 2010 , IRISHCENTRAL News.

    Catholic League president Bill Donohue has claimed that the Catholic church pedophile crisis is really a homosexual crisis ….
    “The conventional wisdom maintains there is a pedophilia crisis in the Catholic Church; he wrote in the Washington Post “I maintain it has been a homosexual crisis all along. “

    “Alfred Kinsey was the first to identify a correlation between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of minors. In 1948, he found that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.
    More recently, in organs such as the Archives of Sexual Behavior, the Journal of Sex Research, the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy and Pediatrics, it has been established that homosexuals are disproportionately represented among child molesters.”
    Donahue quotes Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons a psychiatrist who has spent years treating sexually abusive priests.
    Many psychologists and psychiatrists have shown that there is no link between celibacy and pedophilia,” he said earlier this year. Instead, they have found a “relationship between homosexuality and pedophilia.”

    In fact, “Fitzgibbons says, “every priest whom I treated who was involved with children sexually had previously been involved in adult homosexual relationships.”

    Read more: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Bill-Donahue-says-all-priest-pedophiles-are-gay–99214654.


  8. Study Shows Link Between Homosexuality and Pedophilia

    A new study by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey and the Washington D.C.-based Family Research Council recently confirmed what police and psychiatrists have known for decades: a definitive link exists between male homosexuality and pedophilia.
    The report entitled Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, shows that while homosexual men make up less than three per cent of the adult male population, they commit a disproportionate number (one third or more) of child sexual molestations.

    From Homosexuality and pedophilia , SciForum.com .


  9. “Why same sex couples would want to get married in a church? isn’t this the same church that preaches from the Bible that say same sex is immoral?”

    good point scout; seems that their aim is to rub salt in the wounds of those who oppose secularism.


  10. i keep reading this misleading comment”same sex couples wanting to get married in church.” the point of them being married has been lost it is not were the marriage is performed but the influences and policies of the church that discriminates against such marriages preventing them from having certain legal rights as married heterosexuals. bearing in mind that same sex couples after long term relations have no legal rights in case of decision making on the behalf of each other in times of difficult or critical circumstances .


  11. “Dear balance, in the interest of fair debate and discussion could you please let us know what are these “NORMS OF SOCIETY”? At least give us some examples so that we can see some balance to your position!”

    Dear Mr Miller i take it that you would be inclined to agree that the norms of society subscribe to the view of the majority . the correctness of the view is always open to debate. thinking along these lines then, i can safely say that the majority subscribe to the view that a man should not lie with a man and a woman should not lie with a woman and a man should not lie with his daughter and a woman should not lie with her daughter and children should be protected until they are at a prescribed age to fend on their own and that people should not steal or kill and that people who steal or kill should suffer some form of punishment and i could go on and on on what are the acceptable norms of society in a worldwide population of about 6.77 billion. nice to see you and ac joining forces to defend the rights of those who indulge in minority behaviours.


  12. Anderson Cooper to marry boyfriend Ben Maisani

    Posted On Friday, July 13, 2012 By admin , Male Celeb. News .

    Only weeks after announcing to the world that he was gay, reports are circulating claiming that Anderson Cooper is planning to marry his boyfriend Ben Maisani, whom he has been dating since at least 2009 .


  13. Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
    by Jack Minor ,Greeley Gazette Newspaper, Oct /15 /2011 .

    Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

    Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

    In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

    B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”
    In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

    ….Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

    Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, “Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”
    He went on to say, “True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent.”
    …….. Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles’ sexual interests prefer children and, “There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”

    In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”
    Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

    Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, “Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children.”


  14. @ amx | July 14, 2012 at 10:23 AM |

    Zoe, are you having some kind of sexual orientation crisis?
    What have gay people done to you?
    Why are you linking paedophilia with homosexuality? Paedophilia is a mental disease manifested as warped underdeveloped sexual feelings combined with frailties of perceived power similar to that displayed by rapists. This form of sexual sadism is found among both heterosexuals and homosexuals that require special treatment or from your perspective punishment.
    If you want to blame somebody for homosexuality then blame your bible God who made everything and everyone under the Sun.
    He must have had a reason for creating gay people like Peter, Paul and Judas. Or are you implying that your God is fallible and subject to mistakes? Maybe your god can assist you through prayer to become a loving and forgiving person and to help you sort yourself out with regard to your sexual identity crisis.


  15. Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders

    Posted by Tony Listi on October 1, 2007 , CONSERVATIVE COLLOQUIUM .

    …. Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric Association (APA).

    …. In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of one’s own gender to be disordered. Karoly Maria Kertbeny’s term, “homosexual” was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder.

    …. On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.” (The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131) .

    …… Same-gender sex activists continued to pressure the APA through 1973. A same-gender sex magazine, The Advocate, talks of “…what happened in 1973…referring to the widespread protests by the gay and lesbian community that led to the APA’s dropping homosexuality from the DSM.” (The Advocate, 12-28-93, p.40) As a result of the pressure, in the words of the prominent journalist and same-gender sex activists, Andrew Sullivan, in December of 1973 the APA, “…under intense political pressure…removed homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders…” (Love Undetectable, book by Andrew Sullivan, 1998, p. 107) Under this “intense political pressure” the APA’s board of trustees finally caved in to the demands of same-gender sex activists. Another same-gender sex activist Mark Thompson writes, “Just before the first of the year, the American Psychiatric Association’s board of trustees declared we were no longer sick.” (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 97) .

    ….After the vote by the American Psychiatric Associations Board of Trustees, some members of the APA, led by Dr. Charles Socarides called for a full vote by the APA’s 17,905 members. (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 104)

    On April 9, 1974, results of the vote were announced. Only 10,555 of the 17,905 APA members had voted in the election. The results were as follows,

    Total APA members eligible to vote: 17,905
    Number of APA members that actually voted: 10,555
    Number of members that “Abstained”: 367
    Number of “ No” votes-votes to keep “homosexuality” in the DSM as a mental disorder: 3,810
    Number of “Yes” votes-votes to remove “homosexuality” from the DSM as a mental disorder: 5,854 .

    …. Kay Lahusen and Barbera Gittings know what really happened to the APA. In the book, Making History they are quite open about the reality.

    Kay: This was always more of a political decision than a medical decision.
    Barbara: It never was a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast. After all, it was only three years from the time that feminists and gays first sapped the APA at a behavior therapy session to the time that the Board of Trustees voted in 1973 to approve removing homosexuality from the list of mental disorders. It was a political move.” (Making History, p.224)
    The APA was thoroughly intimidated. Later in the same year (1974), after the APA’s vote, Gittings was interviewed by a historian of the same-gender sex movement, Jonathan Ned Katz. Gittings brags, “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Gay American History, by Jonathan Ned Katz, 1992, p.427. This interview was taped July 19, 1974).


  16. @ Millertheannunaki

    According to Family Research Council (FRC), Homosexual males more likely to molest children than heterosexuals .

    •Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19). -Frank Joseph, M.D.

    •73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9). – Frank Joseph ,M.D .

    Millertheannunaki bring some evidence to support your claims.


  17. @ amx | July 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM |

    The evidence lies within thee!
    Zoe, to thyself be true!
    The question you need to address is: Why? Why did your all-knowing all-powerful god called Jehovah allow these sinful evil bastards called homos to enter this world to prey upon innocent people like you?
    And, BTW, do you have any statistics for female homosexuals (aka lesbians, dykes, femmes and bull-daggers). Maybe your sister or aunt or even mother can fill you in.

    For Christ sake leave the people alone. Lock up those who prey on children and rape innocent adults like yourself but take a “live and let live” approach to the vast majority of people who you describe in such denigrating fashion as to make your God through his bastard child Jesus (he did not marry Mary before deflowering her) weep with shame for creating such a hateful unforgiving person in you. You should remember the parable about the servant whose debts were forgiven by the master but who in turn exacted his pound of flesh like Shylock from those who owed him.


  18. The Gay Rights Movement is a very powerful organisation with long tentacles , they will destroy anyone who stand in their way.

    What happened to all the reggae artist like Bennie Man , Capelton , Buju Banton , Sizzla ,etc who criticised gay people ? Several concerts featuring these artist were cancelled all across North America and Europe, due to pressure from the Gay Rights Movement .

    The article below shows how the Gay Right Movement targeted Bennie Man and and other controversial reggae artist . The pressure from the Gay Rights Movement would eventually break Bennie Man and force him to apologise .

    ‘Kill Gays’ Singer, Beenie Man, to Appear in Miami & Orlando

    London’s Gay Activists Urge Floridians to ‘Stop the Concerts!’

    ‘Notify Attorney General John Ashcroft & Immigration Officials!’

    Compiled by GayToday
    OutRage! News Service

    …OutRage! is coordinating a worldwide “Stop Murder Music” campaign that is targeting Beenie Man and other reggae artists who incite the murder of lesbians and gay men. It wants their concerts cancelled.

    “Beenie Man’s ‘kill gays’ songs are still in circulation. He has not withdrawn them from sale. He is still profiteering from his murder music”, said Mr. Tatchell.

    “We call on Florida gay and human rights groups to press for cancellation of Beenie Man’s concerts on the grounds that he incites the murder of gays and lesbians, and that his performance may lead to public disorder and to homophobic hate crimes.

    ….. “Securing the cancellation of Beenie Man’s concert is very important. By hitting him in the pocket, it will help pressure Beenie Man and other anti-gay Jamaican singers to abandon their murderous incitements. Once they start losing money, they will soon drop their violent lyrics. Driving homophobia out of Jamaican music will have a huge positive impact on Jamaican culture and attitudes – to the benefit of all lesbian and gay Jamaicans.”
    OutRage! is also asking gay and human rights groups to press the U.S. Attorney-General and U.S. Immigration Service to issue a banning order prohibiting Beenie Man’s entry into the U.S. on the grounds that he incites the murder of lesbians and gay men.

    “Inciting murder is a criminal offence under U.S. law and grounds for an exclusion order. Other extremists, such as the Muslim cleric, Dr al-Qaradawi, have been banned from the U.S. because they advocate murder. Beenie Man should be denied entry too. He is a threat to public order and could provoke hate violence against lesbians and gays,” added Mr. Tatchell.
    Bennie Man eventually give in to queer pressure , see the article from the
    Jamaican Observer.

    Beenie asks gays for forgiveness

    BY CECELIA CAMPBELL-LIVINGSTON Observer staff reporter,
    Thursday, May 17, 2012 .

    DANCEHALL kingpin Beenie Man has apologised for his gay-bashing songs in a YouTube video, possibly bringing closure to over 10 years of acricmony with gay rights groups.

    The video was posted yesterday on rototomsunsplash.com, website of the popular summer reggae festival.

    … In the one minute, 35-second message, a remorseful Beenie Man pleads:

    “Please I am begging you do not have me up for some songs I wrote a long time ago. I love each and every one and am just begging each and everyone to do the same,” he said.

    Beenie Man also expressed his respect for every human being “regardless of which race or creed, regardless of religious belief, regardless of which sexual preference you have including gay and lesbian.”

    His apology comes after years of intense pressure from the gay community, which caused many of his shows in North America and Europe to be cancelled.

    Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/entertainment/Beenie-asks-gays-for-forgiveness.


  19. THE GAY RIGHTS MOVEMENT IS WAGING A WAR AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF AFRICA AND THE CARIBBEAN .

    David Cameron Threatens To Cut U.K. Aid to countries that ban homosexuality . The Gay Mafia has a direct line to PM David Cameron .

    We’ll cut your aid if you persecute gays, Britain warns African nations
    By Simon Walters
    UPDATED: 22:44 GMT, 8 October 2011 , Mail Online .

    Poor African countries which persecute homosexuals will have their aid slashed by the Government in a bid by David Cameron to take his gay rights crusade to the Third World.

    International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell has already cut aid to Malawi by £19 million after two gay men were sentenced to 14 years hard labour.

    And he has warned the country’s leaders to scrap plans to introduce draconian new anti-lesbian laws.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046965/Well-cut-aid-persecute-gays-Britain-warns-African-nations.html#ixzz20fVqT02n


  20. The Gay Rights Movements Targets Reggae Artist That Promote Anti-Gay Lyrics

    Anti-gay reggae stars ‘should be charged ‘
    Tania Branigan
    The Guardian, Tuesday 24 December 2002 .

    Gay rights campaigners are pressing for the crown to carry out the first prosecution for incitement to homophobic violence, because of their fears that reggae stars are promoting hate crimes.
    Although it is illegal to incite racial hatred, there is at present no equivalent ban on inciting hatred against the lesbian and gay community.

    But the pressure group OutRage! hopes that singers who have become notorious for lyrics urging the burning, shooting and battering of gays could be prosecuted under the Public Order Act of 1986. “I am preparing a dossier for the police and asking them to prosecute the singers, record companies and distributors on charges of inciting violence against lesbians and gay men,” said Peter Tatchell of OutRage!

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    The government is considering banning reggae star Sizzla from the UK as police investigate “anti-gay” lyrics. – BBC News , 4/11 /2004 .
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    Thursday, 08 May 2008 , RJR NEWS .
    The Lesbian and Gay Federation in Germany (LSVD) says it has been told by the country’s Interior Ministry that Jamaican performer Sizzla will not be granted a special visa for his proposed European tour this month.

    Information reaching RJR News is that German officials have convinced the EU visa office not to give the singer entry to certain countries because of complaints that Sizzla has songs in his repertoire that meet that country’s legal criterion of “incitement of the people”.

    A spokesman from the German gay rights group said Miguel Collins aka Sizzla Kalonji calls in several of his songs for the murder of gays.

    The release said Sizzla’s name is now in the Schengen information system, with the consequence that he does not receive entry in specific EU member countries.

    The Schengen Agreement between 29 nations on the continent of Europe provides visas that allow free movement across their borders.

    The gay activist group claims the German Interior Ministry has bowed to pressure from them and that legal measures for the prevention of Sizzla’s entry in the Schengen zone have been taken.
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    Jamaican star Capleton’s Basel concert cancelled after Swiss gay groups protest
    PinkNews.co.uk ,11 November 2008, 3:21pm.

    The performance by Capleton in Basel was due to take place on November 6th but was pulled by the organisers, according to local LGBT rights group Homosexuelle Arbeitsgruppen Basel (HABS).

    HABS, together with Stop Murder Music Bern, opposed the concert because Capleton has performed songs encouraging violence against lesbian and gay people, in violation of his commitment to abide by the terms of the Reggae Compassionate Act (RCA).

    He signed the agreement in early 2007 and undertook to not perform “murder music” songs any more
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    Sizzla Ejected From Spain Amid Homophobia Fears
    May 29, 2008 | By By Howell Llewellyn, Madrid
    Billboard.biz .
    Jamaican reggae star Sizzla was forced to cancel two sold out concerts in Spain this week after the artist was detained and later barred from entering the country.

    Sizzla was held for several hours at Madrid’s Barajas airport on May 27, before he was obliged to fly to a new destination. As a result, concerts planned for that day in Madrid and in Barcelona on May 28, were cancelled.
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    Calls to cancel homophobic Sizzla concerts
    Published on 30 March 2012 , Radio Netherland Worldwide .

    Dutch gay rights group COC wants three concerts Jamaican singer Sizzla is scheduled to give at the weekend to be cancelled, saying he incites hate against homosexuals.

    The controversial singer is to perform in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Groningen. COC accuses him of “inciting horrible forms of violence against gay people.” The organisation says there can be no place in the Netherlands for performers “who call for gay people to be set on fire or shot through the heart.” The group calls on the organisers to distance themselves from the singer and cancel his concerts.

    Sizzla calls on people to shoot and burn gay people in “Nah Apologize” among other songs. The singer says he wrote the song after Britain banned him from the country due to his homophobic lyrics. In a statement Sizzla says he will not perform any songs that incite hatred during his European tour. COC counters that Sizzla has repeatedly failed to honour promises he had made.
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    Anti-gay lyrics cause Sizzla concert cut
    Posted by LGBT Weekly Entertainment News, March 29th, 2012 .

    Reggae artist Sizzla has been banned from performing in Stockholm, Sweden after his anti-gay lyrics had sparked outrage among Swedish music-lovers.


  21. i suppose in time we would see two men or two women ocupying downing street or the white house as husband and husband or wife and wife seeing that the accepted norm is that the male is referred to as husband and the female is referred to as wife in a marriage or union. so ludicrous a concept, do you not think?

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