T&T, and Jamaica are alsao considering the same thing, something has to give since life seems to mean little or nothing to a criminal.

The difference is, of course, that capital punishment is not law in Britain. How can there be a campaign for something that is there already? To “get the gallows to swing” does not depend on the government.

David, Capital Punishment, is a punishment and I am unaware of anyone having experienced this form of punishment ever murdering again!.

For too long we have pandered to the Human Rights crowd and Shepard and his crowd. it is time for the gallows to swing, or if preferred lets do lethal injection.

the fact that so little is thought of life these days, some drastic action has to be taken. The lawless seem to do as they like and cause law abiding citizens to live in houses that are looking more like a prision than Dodds. It is time to take back our communitties from these thugs.

I believe that hanging has no place in a supposedly modern society and I would sign any petition that seeks to prevent the gallows from ever swinging again in Barbados. I also do not subscribe to the view that capital punishment is a deterrent to murder but have no problem with it remaining on the books.

Time came a long time ago to deal with these worthless vagabonds that want to kill decent people. Once we have thorough systems, so as not to hang innocent people, then I strongly believe these bad asses must die!

Why would anybody want the Trendz perps to live?????????

@BU
Someone emailed me wanting to know if I was the ‘George’ writing on these blogs. I admitted that i do write from time to time and I no longer hide behind pseudonyms but instead provide my full name because for me, integrity means everything.
Against that background David and BU, I would like to completely distance myself from the comments attributed to ‘george’ in a post citing the bible as a term of reference. Personally, I do not subscribe to ‘hanging’ as an appropriate means of state-sanctioned killing; I think it is inhumane. As far as the ‘death penalty’ is concerned as long as it is a law and remains on the books I will concede to the fact that an individual may be executed for murder.
The priority for all of us should not be positioning the authorities to execute humans; rather the priority should be providing programmes, opportunities, policies, and all the necessary frameworks to ensure that wherever possible we reduce the propensity for murder to occur. Let us get back to instilling a stronger sense of value in the society for life, property, and RIGHTS. Let us find means to arrest what is becoming a sad situation of ‘living by the sword, less the society also dies by the sword’. Barbados is still in my opinion home and the greatest place on earth.

@Ping Pong

Exactly! I wish to encourage you to re-read my post and you will note that we are essentially on the same page notwithstanding the inclination to use the term ‘framework’ in shaping or reshaping the type of society we need. In essence, do not wait until the fruits spoil then to say you did not water the garden or in some way nurture the plants. I was sure to point to the reality that it is possible to ‘reduce’ rather than eliminate spoilage. Perhaps where we do differ is that I believe that all situations and events are socially conditioned and socially constructed including the criminal, the murder, the aggressor; and even the most benevolent in the society. Behaviour is learned and unlearned; we create and recreate and reproduce all of those elements that shape the society. That we choose to ignore or accept is significant because therein lies the peril of how we decide to act or respond to ills within the society.

@Dave | August 5, 2011 at 7:31 AM | “as a measure to combat rising heinous crime?”
Name one democracy where capital punishment has been a deterrent to crime.
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Dave, even if capital punichment doesn’t deter potential killers, it certainly is a PUNISHMENT THAT FITS THE CRIME. Why should tax payers put out $35k per year to keep a killer in prison? No sir…it’s time to shake and bake.

The argument here is punishment and not deterrent correctly stated above.

We have people who enter our society whose value system/morals were molded by other societies and there is no* practical way we can give rehab to these people.

As Hants suggested. we have to deal with this problem in the short term.

We can’t be multicultural and open our borders in the way Perter Wickam et al want and don’t expect to have to deal with the attendant issues of crime etc in a practical way.

@ David

“why is there an expected lobby to restore capital punishment in the UK?”

Guido and his Jesuit agenda to bring CP to the table does not have the backing of the other important institutions across the EU framework…

There are some right-winger nut-jobs who would like to see Britain re-institute the death penalty but there is no appetite from the bleeding heart conservatives, human rights proponents and the broad sleuth of non-governmental organs and ethical social activists who will do all in their power to defeat the will of a few thousand who for whatever reasons want to see Britain re-enter the era called by John Foxe – “THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS”…

We all want a more open participatorial DEMOCRACY* and to have a “say-so” in how public policy is forged but where is the empirical research that shows that CP* is a “DETERRENT” to crime and even diabolical murder?

This “theory of deterrence” is solely based on the idea that the threat of punishment must be severe enough to counter the benefits or pleasures that the CRIMINAL* would receive from the crime…

In addition, the punishment must be administered swiftly so that potential criminal will see a clear cause and effect relationship between the crime and the punishment…

Sociologists have examined the general deterrent effect of capital punishment since the early 20th century…

Early studies, including those by Thorsten Sellin, took [2] approaches:

Some studies compared homicide rates in states with and without capital punishment; others compared homicide rates for states before or after the reintroduction or abolition of capital punishment.

Researchers found that murder rates in neighboring states with and without the death penalty were not significantly different.

They also found that homicide rates in states did not increase after the abolition of the death penalty or decrease after the reinstatement of the sanction.

More recent comparative studies have come to the same conclusion, supporting Sellin’s contention in 1967 that “the presence of the death penalty in law and practice has no discernible effect as a deterrent to murder…”

Many law lords and jurists in the UK believe that the E-Petition to the Commons may be a “knee-jerk” reaction based on heightened emotionality on the growing levels of serious MASS* murder (as in Anders Breivik’s case in Oslo, Norway) and the growing instability and fragmentation of Western societies…

The winds of DESTRUCTION* are blowing all around the GLOBE* and no amount of emotional sentimentality will change what is clearly the “INEVITABLE”…

The clock is running out and as it closes in on a few seconds to midnight – no one will be able to change the penultimate course of human history…