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The problem of the twentieth century is the problem of the color lineW.E.B. DuBois

Today the Black man still bears the Cross of Jesus Christ as Simon of Cyrene did on that most fateful day in earth’s history. As those Caucasoid Roman soldiers whipped, beat, insulted and spat upon my Lord and as those who called themselves Abraham’s children (Jews) and are not (crying vociferously, “let his blood be upon us and our children”) – but are of the Synagogue of SATAN* heckled, cajoled, laughed, maligned, jeered and scoffed as Jesus wobbled, stumbled and fell under the weight of the cross. Simon (the 13th Disciple) bore His burden up the hill.

And so upon the back of the Black man fell that cross of shame – a symbolic, archetypal reminder to Black folks everywhere throughout the ages that upon their shoulders rest the long arduous process of salvation for humanity. What Simon of Cyrene accomplished in the flesh for our beloved Lord and Saviour – we as the progenitors of that fulfilment would have to carry for mankind right down until the end of time.

Yet many still ask, but are not Black folks “the least in their Father’s house”?

What constitutes greatness can largely be a matter of opinion. Jesus reminds us that the least is oftentimes the greatest amongst us and MUST* be a “servant” to all – and the “first” will be the “last” and the “last” will be the “first”.

Do we consider a man’s greatness in part due to the degree to which his life and actions affect humanity for generations?

Had Napoleon been forced to stay on the island of Corsica – would the seeds of his destiny as Emperor become historical evident or would he not have become one of those flowers born to bloom” remaining unseen and waste in the sweetness of the desert air?

As the subject of this discourse implies, many have bought into the “lies” of history regarding the greatest group of people God created on planet earth. Though disobedient on every level (and now “last”) – they have remained unparalleled as a force of nature especially when history is given the true resonance it deserves. Blacks began civilization and they will end it!

Post-deluvian history in Genesis 10:6–20 paints an account of the dispersal of the nations within the Mesopotamian Valley of IRAQ*. This geographical area known as the cradle of civilization from which emerged the world’s first known Black King (NIMROD) – the most powerful Black man that ever lived (after the Flood), who according to Scripture was “a mighty hunter before God” and someone who ruled from the stratospheric heights of the Tower of Babel. Historical accounts presuppose that no physical human structure like it exist today on the earth. Even with the Burj Khalifa which stands at [2,716.5FT] in downtown Dubai – it remains as an insignificant structure compared to the Tower of Babel.

In Genesis 11:6, God saw that the intent of the people’s heart was based on such solid “UNITY” that they would have literally built a stairway into the heavens. The story of Babel is truly profound because the Black man still struggles unlike any other race with this issue of “unity”. We all seem to speak a different language – often from a position of defence. Our focus is too tribal; too linguistic; too individualistic. Our focus like the kingdom of Nimrod is on building material edifices without any real tailored, spiritual accountability. As the Bible remind us – “Unless the LORD GOD* builds the house, its builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD GOD* watch the city in the night, in vain do the watchmen keep vigil.”

The post-exodus of mankind from the kingdom of Nimrod, resulting in Ham taking his son Mizraim and went off to Africa. Mizraim whose name is Egypt became the land from which Jacob’s family of [70] plus Joseph who was already Prince of Egypt, his wife Asenath, (the daughter of an African priest) and their [2] sons would call home for the next 430 years. Of the [70] who entered Egypt (this powerful Black nation) according to Scripture only (4) of them were female, (Asher’s granddaughter, Jacob’s daughter Dinah who had been raped, Leah & Zilpah).

For all the religious BIGOTS* who do not possess a shred of intellectual, far less spiritual honesty, it would be nigh impossible for them to acknowledge that the JEWISH* people began as a “RACE” of people (WHO DUE TO INTERMARRIAGE) were Black or for ethnological correctness – biracial where [66] men and [4] Israelite females were meant to keep the bloodline Semitic.

By the time God had decided to deliver the Israelites out of African bondage – a new despotic Pharaoh had emerged to wage ethnic genocide because of the population statistics in Goshen, Egypt. A new “hybrid” specie of Black folks had morphed into the landscape threatening to become a majority.

On the scene of action was another prince of Egypt (a Hebrew), Moses who had grown up in Pharaoh’s house. He was to be the deliverer of this people after spending some [40] years in Jethro’s house (a Black Midianite high priest) who knew of the true worship of YAHWEH long before even the children of Israel had been given a single commandment from God.

Scripture reminds us also that Moses’ Black Ethiopian wife Zipporah was at the center of ethnic, racial strife between Moses’ sister Miriam and others (due in no part to jealousy and stupidity) and would have suffered the retributive justice of a NO-NONSENSE God had Moses not arbitrarily intervened.

Right through the historical document of Old Testament Scripture, is peppered and laced with references, scenes, acts, stories and prominent roles by powerful Black men and women who altered the course of human history and destiny. This discourse is limited in its citations of what can be accredited to God’s original people but the proof is in the pudding. Taste and see that the Lord is good!

As a result of the flawed thinking and the misconceptualization of Scripture – we sadly arrived at medieval pre-Renaissance history – where the pendulum of time has swung decisively and indiscriminately towards those who would rule the world based on Daniel Chapter 3.

By the time Greece and Rome arrived on the world scene, Caucasoid people were in the ascendancy and set out to concoct a damnable lie* of historic proportions. This damnable heresy is then used as fuel and fodder for the next millennium to brainwash and indoctrinate the world into believing that the Black man had no major place, part or role in the Biblical historical narrative (and if so, to a diminished extent) but most importantly, that the descendants of Ham were a “cursed people” – a ploy to upstage and steal the most important vestiges of Black history.

Caucasian ministers, anthropologists, social historians, eugenicists and others throughout the Reformation period of the 16th century taught that the Black man was cursed based on the pronouncement in Genesis 9:24-25.

The Church spearheading this diabolical lie, gave sanction to the capitalists “rift-raft”, dodgy speculators and amoral profiteers to embark on a 400 year-old quest to squeeze every last drop of blood out of the soul of the Black man because as Scripture had said – “a slave shall he be to others”.

The conundrum of Scripture however for many so-called intellectual Biblical scholars is that Ham was not cursed (the “one” who saw his father’s nakedness) but Noah’s grandson Canaan – and many still ask why? Those who think they are so enlightened can provide a meaningful answer as to why this occurred.

Today, the modern Judeo-Christian construct is actually a matrix of disavowal of basic historical factors, [premises] and conclusions. According to Dr. Walter Arthur McCray in his book – “The Black Presence in the Bible: Discovering THE BLACK and African Identity of Biblical persons and nations, he argues that “one of the more enlightening aspects of the study of the Black presence in the Bible has to do with the ethnological make-up of the Old Covenant community. Here we are speaking of the Blackness, whether implicit or explicit, of the Hebrew-Israelite-Judahite-Jewish people spanning the centuries from Abraham, the father of the Hebrew people with whom God entered into Covenant, down to Jesus Christ Himself, the Promised Messiah of God.” (p.122)

McCray further opines that “it is indeed possible for us to demonstrate [1] the Blackness of the Covenant-Messianic community; [2] the Blackness of the Messianic genealogical line; and [3] the Blackness of the Messiah Himself, Christ Jesus The Lord.” (Ibid)

The problem is – unravelling centuries of false indoctrination, brain (white) washing, lies and misinformation will be a mammoth task given the entrenched nature of our belief system but work we must to destroy the last barriers of resistance.

In conclusion, the New Testament like the OT is also peppered with historical accounts of Black privilege, involvement and control. Dr. John S. Mbiti, in his book “African Religions and Philosophy” argues that “the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch (Black Queen Candace’s Treasurer) described in the Acts of the Apostles predates Paul’s 1st missionary journey into Europe by several years. There is clear, historical documentation of the BLACK church in Africa by the 3rd century. Christianity was the dominant religion in North Africa and most notably Egypt. Egyptian and North African scholars such as Clement, Origen, Tertullian, and Athanasius are widely recognized as fathers of the church. One of the most undeniable instances was Lucius of Cyrene who with his comrade in Antioch, Simeon, who was called Niger – Niger simply means “Black.”

He contends that “by the year 300, Egypt had more than a million Christians. In the 6th century, Christianity spread to the Nubian Kingdoms, soon becoming the dominant religion. The Christian Nubian Kingdoms survived for 700 years, resisting attempted domination by Muslim conquerors for 600 of those years. The Egyptian Coptic Church in the Sudan and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church still exist today. Though persecuted, their presence is testimony to the historicity of Christianity in Africa.”


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372 responses to “The Judeo-Christian Matrix: “Simon of Cyrene” and the “Cross of Humanity’s Shame” – The “White Religious Lie” Which Sought To Undermine the Pivotal Role of the Black Man in Biblical Literature”


  1. I always get mirth when BU readers opine that you can find anything about Medicine on the internet, because it is clear that even the PhD untrained in Basic Anatomy is finding it difficult to correctly interpret an article written by ????

    I would urge the Riganmortized Bar Raiser to a bit of Anatomy homework concerning the stuff he copies before pitching it on BU..

    See what you can do with these notes on one snippet of the stuff you copied.

    Much speculation has centered on the exact location of the puncture wound and thus the source of the resulting blood and water. However, the Greek word (pleura) that John used clearly denotes the area of the intercoastal ribs that cover the lungs (Netter, 1994, p. 184).

    WHAT EXACTLY DOES THE WORD PLEURA MEAN? HOW IS IT USED IN THE PAPYRI?

    WHAT ARE THE SURFACE MARKINFGS OF THE LOWER “INTERCOSTAL RIBS” LOL Better the lower ribs! Go check Netter for yourself!

    Given the upward angle of the spear, and the thoracic location of the wound, abdominal organs can be ruled out as having provided the blood and water.
    WHO SAID THE WOUND WAS THORACIC?
    WHY RULE OUT ABDIOMNAL ORGANS? Go check Netter for yourself!

    A more likely scenario would suggest that the piercing affected a lung (along with any built-up fluid), the pericardial sac surrounding the heart, the right atrium of the heart itself, the pulmonary vessels, and/or the aorta.
    WHAT IS THE LOGIC FOR THIS. HAVE YOU THOUGHT THIS THROUGH YOURSELF? WELL DO SO! Where is the aorta? At the sides? Huh? Where are the pulmonary vessels? Not superior and more midline? Go check Netter for yourself!

    Note the pericardial sac usually contain serous fluid! Seriously! LOL

    Since John did not describe the specific side of the body on which the wound was inflicted, we can only speculate about which structures might have been impaled by such a vicious act.
    However, the blood could have resulted from the heart, the aorta, or any of the pulmonary vessels.
    WOULD IT NOT MORE LIKELY HAVE COME FROM LIVER OR SPLENIC SINUSOIDS? Go check Netter for yourself!
    ARE THESE ORGANS NOT ON THE SIDES AND SINCE THEY ARE INFERIOR TO THE LUNGS MORE LIKELY TO BE PIERCED? Go check Netter for yourself!
    WHAT IS THE RELATIONS OF THE LIVER AND THE SPLEEN TO THE LUNGS? Go check Netter for yourself!

    Water probably was provided by pleural or pericardial fluids (that surround the lungs and heart).
    IS THE PLEURAL & PERICADIAL FLUIDS WATER OR SEROUS FLUID?
    DOES WATER SEPARATE FROM SEROUS FLUIDS AT DEATH OR DOES SERUM SEPARATE FROM BLOOD ELEMENTS AT DEATH?
    IS IT TRUE THAT SEPARATION OF SERUM FROM BLOOD ELEMENTS IS A FORENSIC INDICATION OF DEATH and that one’s physiology as been rigormortized?

    Will you come back with some junk to keep me laughing for the rest of the day?


  2. Dr. Wiltshire…………….One of the main reasons why Ancient Egypt fell is because of a problem we as BLACKS still face…..We welcome foreigners with open arms, they lived amongst us and then turned on us…..Another reason is exactly what we see happening before our eyes today with the destructionl of Iraq, Afghanistan and now Pakistan and today’s history books will record the demise of Iraq as having ‘WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION,’ Afghanistan’s demise as ‘HARBOURING BIN-LADEN and Pakistan’s as ‘AIDING & ABETTING A TERRORIST & TERRORISM.’ And today’s invaders are the children of the same invaders of Ancient Egypt [that once GREAT BLACK NATION] who also wrote that DAMNABLE HERESY that SHE fell because of IDOLATRY and PAGANISM.

    Can you decipher GP?


  3. @TMB

    You posted, quote:- “What it means to us today is that Jesus, who is touched by the feelings of our infirmities, must experience for Himself what it is like to be weak, discouraged and unable to go on without help.”
    **************************************************************
    Sir, so just what do you think all the suffering and anguish in the Garden of Gethsemane was all about? Do you really think that the Lord Jesus Christ had to wait for a cross on His shoulders to know about all the suffering of mankind. He bore all of our transgressions, trials and tribulations right there in Gethsemane!
    And you want to know something else? He did all of that just so that we would not have to suffer as He did as long as we are willing to accept Him as Lord and Saviour, be obedient to the principles of the Gospel, and endure to the end.


  4. @ GP
    Doc,man, I am quite content for now to be a l’il “seed picka” and leave the ‘high falutin” stuff for others to dissemble. But I know that one needs to believe and have complete faith in the Man who “stilled the waters”, the Man from Galilee, even our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and be baptised in his name and then endure in faith to the end. That is what I have come to know and I hope and pray that I can remember this and have this testimony for as long as I live. I know that I have sinned and have come short of His Glory but I hope disparately for forgiveness as I continue to repent daily for those transgressions. This I leave with you in His precious name.


  5. dE hOOD
    You like you grasp the Basics about the plan of salvation. Now you need some solid Bible teaching Man.

    You got a man here who quoting from some fellas who quoting from McDowells’ book . Then he step out he league and out of the crease cause he dont really understand the Anatomy Physiology or Pathology of what he cut and paste, so I had to stump he, man.

    Hopi
    Your thesis is an interesting one LOL I see you putting lashes in Israel because the God of heaven engineered the demise of Egypt the realm of the black man. But your post indicates that you had some exposure to the truth. All that happen is that you are now an apostate like my buddy Techie.

    Careful hear sweet girl. He that knoweth the will and doeth it not shall ne beaten with many stripes!

    Now put some lashes in this fellow who walking bouut “rigormortising people’s Physiology.” This is the man that BT called a bar raiser He sounds like a hifallutin jackass to me. He aint even as good as ROK. At least he got a white beard, and look like a sage!


  6. Jesus (Christ) was never perfect
    (I won’t drop any tunes today) .


  7. @GP
    Doc it appears that you you do not like a riot but you ain’t got any problems starting a war. 🙂
    Man, ROKie quiet and chillin’ on the side looking on and like you not content wid dat! 🙂 You neva hear your granma say “don’t trouble trouble until trouble trouble you? 🙂 LOL
    But what I want to know is where Zoe gone? I only ask him to tone down and he like he disappear altogether! Ah hope he ain frighten fuh dis l’ll ol’ “seed picka”. 🙂


  8. For all yuh bible thumpers . Why is it so hard for yuh all to face the fact that Simon of Cyrene helped to carry the cross. I don’t see nothing wrong with that for Jesuse taught us that we must love one another . When simon did so it was a moment in time to show that we all should help[ each other with their burdens through love and sacrifice. Simon of Cyrene fits right into the concept “He ain’t heavy he is my brother. Good job Simon we need more people like you but obviously the christian world lacks the courage and intestinal fortiude to appreciate your willingness and kindness.


  9. Yeah and DE ROK got a brain. He doin’t need a bibler to tell he how to think. A book that was stolen from the blacks and now its content is all tossed and twisted in and effort top confuse the masses.


  10. Hoodie
    I have to get a llikkle fun man . I hear all day revising my glycolysis ppts I hope it dont rigormortize my physiology

    Hoodie, I think that Zoe see that I cover the rigormortizer of physiology both Theologically & Medically , so he probably didn’t waste the time.
    Zoe got a doctorate in Theology man; he don’t have to worry about any seed picker man. Plus I hear he in some big debate in Barbados on a big topic that needs study

    Rok aint coming pon any Medicine thread again except annonymously man. Cause google wont help him like the fellow called bad man saying nuttin I still waiting for him to teach me how to treat DIC hypertension and diabetes man. LOL

    I gone! I got some physiology to rigormortize hear?


  11. @Techie

    It has been an extremely hectic period. Noted your comment of earlier and hope to write a blog soon where we exchange some ideas. Just watching these Doctors in Divinity from the sidelines battling it out. Just makes ordinary folk go ummmm man.


  12. Wunna bible thumpers are twofaced and deceitful .Why yuh don’t seek the truth instead of trying to pull the mote out of other people eyes the ones who disagree wid yuh philosophy. Yuh act like Simon of Cyrene did something wrong by carrying the Cross fuh Jesus. Dat is the problem wid al wunna when the facts speak for themselves yuh throw a tissy fit . De only word people supposed to respect is de one wunna interpret. So Simonhelped Jesus carry de Cross ! So What! De Christian church must be more open and tolerant of other people opinion in order to gain respect from non christians. Dat is why all the immoral scandals being talked about in so prevalent in the church and its leadership because they are teaching the very scripture which they themselves do not believe and they interpretation is geared to the things they say and do!


  13. @ac
    May I suggest that you take a breather, chill out a bit and then come back and read some more of this thread before you cast any more aspersions. No one is trying to say that Simon did not carry the cross or that there was anything wrong with him doing so. The response here is that there was no 13th disciple (never read about it) and that Christ, being GOD did not need any help to carry His cross. He was GOD in a mortal body and so had the power to just wish it and have all those unrighteous folk disappear from around Him! If you would do some research you would see that He gave up His life (the ghost) of His own free will. No one could take His life from Him. Do you follow what I am saying?


  14. David
    You see me battling wid anybody man? Or do you see me rigormortizing my physiology?


  15. @hood
    Look man my response was to the fact that the christian churches never give or if at any time give mention to the fact that Simon of Cyrene helped to carry the cross. Not to what you or others was saying and why was that so blatanly overlooked. Since you have jumped into the fray .Maybe you can answer it. As TB had poised the question to all the bible thumpers and as of now none of you have responded.


  16. @ ac
    So what exactly was the question again? Refresh my memory.


  17. @Hood
    OOPS! Sorry wrong link! maybe you can try using google!LOL!


  18. ‎3 3 3
    deh a country
    and my grand daddy
    have a donkey
    He used to put me on de back
    …and me ridey


  19. Tell me what you to be

    Do you want to be a disc jockey
    Give me what you promised to be


  20. It’s a colourful world we live in


  21. GP’s post of Oct 1, 12:14pm, has nailed it point blank, JESUS IS the *ONE that our focus must be on, for as the Second Person of the Eternal, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, Godhead, being God of very God, ‘He laid HIS life down, and TOOK it again.’

    TB’s brain seems to have become ‘Rigormortized’ stiff, unable to think critically, pushing this dead horse, of neo-Afrocentric nonsense, seeing to high light Simon of Cyrene, way beyong the simple mention of this black man in Scripture.

    TB is attempting to do with Simon, something similar to what Catholicism did with the humble handmaiden of the Lord, Mary, who was blessed “among women” meaning together with, or ‘along side’ with, NOT ABOVE women, as Catholicism has done with Mary, literally deifying her, rank, gross, paganistic idolatry!

    Also, TB’ referrence to Isaiah 59: 2, saying that this passage explains Jesus cry on the Cross, regarding why the Father forsake Him, is totally out of context, and has no bearing whatsoever to His words, as Isiaiah 59: 2, is specifically dealing with Israel, another indictment against violence, deception and injustice, with the result that Israel had no peace, this passage has NOTHING to do with what Jesus endured on the Cross, while PAYING the price in FULL, for the Sins of mankind, and His CRY to the Father, “Eli, Eli, sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me.” (Matth. 27: 46).

    Rather, Habakkuk 1:13, far more appropriately, explains why the Father, momentarily had to LOOK AWAY from His beloved Son, WHO WAS bearing the SINS of mankind, and for the very FIRST time was separated from that ETERNAL oneness, with the Father, because, as Habakkuk states:

    “Thou art of purer eyes than to BEHOLD evil, and cannot look on iniquity…” (Habakkuk 1:13a) emphasis added.

    As Isaiah says: “But He (Jesus) was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our INIQUITIES: the chastisement of our peace was upon HIM; and with His stripes we are healed.” (Isaiah 53: 5) emphasis added.

    No GREATER Love and complete sacrifice has the world EVER seen, than when THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, God of very God, humbled Himself, became God/man, expressely for the purpose of satisfying Divine Justice, that someone PAY IN FULL, the absolute PRICE of our Redemption, and ONLY God could do this on our behalf, AND, this IS what Jesus Christ DID, to the point of having to be momentarily *Separated* from the ETERNAL union He had with the Father, this HE did for us.


  22. ✔ Very good zoe
    Give yourself a gold star ✩
    10/10 for effort (despite lateness)


  23. All this is pure conjucture and personnel beliefs and interpretations on each individual part.
    No one is denying Jesus top billing. However just as the two thieves who were crucified and died side by side beside Jesus and they are always being referenced to in bible teachings and sermons, the same should be given to simon of cyrene who help to carry the cross.His role was also of importance.


  24. nder VI commisioned ex-priest Desiderius Erasmus to write something on the object of Christianity(CHRIST).
    Erasmus created the Synoptic Gospels /New Testament which ws printed in 1516 AD.
    In 1611 the fourth gospel was created by King JAMES I of England,


  25. Tomorrow I will give a Biographical Study on Simon of Cyrene

    I will read the three texts in the NT

    Then I will give my introduction copied of the net
    As Jesus was carrying his cross out of Jerusalem to the place of execution, a man named Simon of Cyrene was coming in ( Matthew 27:32; Mark 15:21; Luke 23:26 ), and the soldiers compelled him to carry the cross of Jesus. (The word angareuo (Greek gamma corresponds to English “ng” as in “finger”), here used for “compel,” is a technical one, perhaps better translated “impress”, and referring to the legal right of a soldier to require a provincial to carry his gear one mile for him. The word occurs in the New Testament only here and in Matthew 5:41.) Mark calls him “the father of Alexander and Rufus” without further explanation, apparently taking it for granted that his readers would all know who Rufus and Alexander are. The Christian writer Papias (died around 130) tells us that Mark originally wrote his Gospel for the Christian community in Rome. This suggests that Alexander and Rufus were well known to, and probably part of, the Christian congregation in Rome. Very possibly their father Simon had himself become a Christian, though this must remain conjecture.

    According to the rules of homoletics I learned long ago having stood up spoken up I will then SHUT UP & SIT DOWN because there is NOTHING ELSE TO SAY
    ANYTHING ELSE WILL BE FICTION NOT FACT

    I can well imagine that serious sincere seasoned preachers have the same view. It might be easier to speak on HUPPIN and MUPPIN. LOL


  26. Judaism ,Christianity & Islam are all man made religions . The formula for Judaism was created by Solomon Bar Issac (RASHI) in 1080-1100 AD . The first printed Bible called the Hebrew Bible /Old Testament was written by Jewish Scholar MOSES MAIMON in 1475 AD.
    The religion called Christianity did not have printed literature until 1516 AD when DESIDERIUS ERASMUS created the New Testament. In 1611 AD , King JAMES I OF ENGLAND created the fourth gospel ,this was published in the King James Version.
    Origin of Jesus Christ : Jesus is a ficticous character created by man.
    In 332 BC, the Greeks ivade Egypt and topple a glorious civilization that was thousands of years old. Greek ruler Ptolemy Lagi I (Soter) wanted to be worship as God ,so he created an image of himself called SERAPIS. Soter forced the people of Ancient Egypt to worship & create rituals to this image . Those who rejected this were tortured/executed. Other Greek & Roman ruler who came after continued this tradition. In 325 AD, at the Council of Niceae ,the image of Soter(Serapis) was made the SON OF THE FATHER/ SON OF GOD.
    In 431 AD, at the Council of Ephesus , the image of Soter (Serapis) was tranformed into the Christos/Christ/Messias. The Virgin Mary-” THE MOTHER OF GOD” was also created at this meeting. The image of Soter was also worsipped as ZEUS in Greece & IUPITER in Rome.
    At the Council of Lyons 1245 AD, the image of Soter(CHRISTOS)was given a new name . Borrowing from the name ZEUS , the image of Soter was renamed IESUS THE CHRIST.
    In 1630 AD , the letter ”j” was added to the alphabet , it was derived from the letter ”i”. Prior to 1630 AD ,the letter ”i” functioned as a vowel when placed above the line; ”i” also functioned as a consonant when placed below the line . ”j” was introduced in 1630 AD to assume the function of a consonant. During the Renaissance era the word IESUS was replaced by the word JESUS.


  27. I need to correct a statement. The Old Testament/Hebrew Bible (Pentateuch) was created by Moses Maimon in 1168- 11800 AD and it was printed for the first time in 1475 AD.
    In 532 -537 AD, the Church of Hagia Sophia in Instanbul Turkey was built Emperor of the Byzantine Empire ,Justinian I.The Hagia Sophia was the first seat of Christianity. In 1453 AD, the Byzantine Empire came to an end when the Ottomon Turks seized Constantinople. At this point ,the seat of christianity was tranferred to Rome.


  28. It is so very easy for posters like Malcom X, who are dangerously IGNORANT, (lacking knowledge, facts, evidence, etc,) to come here on BU, and distort, twist, misrepresent, falsify, and corkscrew the overwhelming Biblical and historic veracity of Judaism and Christianity, with utter NONSENSE, all of which have already being dealt with in detail on BU in previous threads, confirms the reality that the father of ALL lies, Satan continues his vicious attacks on the person of Jesus Christ, His *Word, the Bible, which CANNOT be refuted with any coherent, logical, historic facts, or truth, but only with this kind of blatant distortion, presented by one of the Devil’s knavish, mendacious and deceptive disciples, won’t work, can’t work, as no LIE, or distorted information, as you Malcom X have presented, can come against the TRUTH of God’s Word, the Bible, and the historic PERSON of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, evidence for which, legally, logically, historically, both internal and from external sources, completely overshadow any OTHER personage of ancient repute, plus the amazing truth in the lives of multiplied hundreds and hundreds of MILLIONS of people from across every known culture, class or ethnic background, over the last 2000 years, whose LIVES testify to the FACT that none other than the Lord Jesus Christ, has done for them, and continues to DO for vast numbers of people throughout the world TODAY, exactly what HE promised HE would do in the hearts and lives of those who TRUST and surrender to HIM, the ONLY Saviour and Lord of mankind, God of very God, not some devilish false religion, with Satan masquerading as some *god, but, the LIVING, Resurrected, Ascended, Lord of Lords, and King of Kings, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!


  29. @ David……

    David | October 1, 2010 at 7:12 PM |

    @Techie

    It has been an extremely hectic period. Noted your comment of earlier and hope to write a blog soon where we exchange some ideas. Just watching these Doctors in Divinity from the sidelines battling it out. Just makes ordinary folk go ummmm man.

    I here watching from the sidelines too and also saying hmmmmmm.
    All the while picking up little bits and pieces..lol.
    We will share those ideas as soon as you are ready, meanwhile let me continue to pick and learn from the ‘Top Shottas’ on BU.


  30. Calm down Zoe nobody is trying to dethroned Christ . For Christ himself has told us to seek and ye shall find. Knock and it it shall be opened unto you. So in this path man is travelling . Even though it may be uncomfortable to those who have only been taught singularly. Seeking Knowledge and confortingthat which is true should not be deny because in doing so we only become masters of our own doom. Yes Jesus teachings have undeniably left their footprints in the hearts of man of whom he has touch and for that many are appreciative . However we must also seek the truth in knowing him not ony in a spirtual manner but in a way we can see him as a person in the flesh and as one that we truly new existed. Let history continue to be revealed to those who want to know more about Him that they worshippedand letting God be the Final judge.


  31. THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK HISTORY & CIVILIZATION


  32. HISTORICAL DENIERS ARE THE WORST FORM OF HUMAN PLANKTON…

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    Micro Mock Engineer

    “As those Caucasoid Roman soldiers whipped, beat, insulted and spat upon my Lord and as those who called themselves Abraham’s children (Jews) and are not (crying vociferously, “let his blood be upon us and our children”) – but are of the Synagogue of SATAN* heckled…”
    ………………..

    Those who called themselves Abraham’s children and are not? ROFL

    TB, who were the people that shouted “let his blood be upon us and our children” if not Jews? What is the relevance of the ‘Synagogue of SATAN’ link which literally begins its ‘false Jew’ conspiracy theory with the statement… “In 740 A.D. in a land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, known as Khazaria”?

    I’m trying my best to keep up with you, so tell me if I have this right… a group of Khazarian Jews traveled back in time some 700+ years to set Jesus up? Wow… those time traveling scoundrels… I now understand why you are so concerned. LOL


  34. Emperor Hadrian, in a letter to the Consul, Servianus, observed that “There are (in Egypt) Christians who worship Serapis; and devoted to Serapis are those who call themselves ‘Bishops of Christ.”
    A correspondence of Emperor Hadrian refers to the Alexandrain worshippers of Serapis calling themselves as ” BISHOPS OF CHRIST ”.
    ”Egypt, which you commended to me my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent, and continually wafted about by every breath of fame. The worshippers of Serapis (here) are called Christians and those who are devoted to the god Serapis(I find) call themselves Bishops of Christ.” – Hadrian to Servainus ,134 AD (Qouted by Giles).

    “Jesus” actually means – “Hail Zeus!”
    For Iesous in Greek IS “Hail Zeus.”
    “Ie” translates as “Hail” and “sous”
    or “sus” translates as Zeus. The English
    name “Jesus”, therefore, stems etymologically
    from “Zeus”.
    JESUS = IESOUS /IESUS
    IESOUS translates HAIL ZEUS.


  35. @ MME
    “a group of Khazarian Jews traveled back in time some 700+ years to set Jesus up?

    I AM TRYING HARD NOT READ, WRITE & SPELL FOR GROWN-UPS –

    THE “HISTORICAL ANTECEDENTS” IS AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS COVERING A SPAN OF TIME RIGHT UP TO PRESENT DAY…

    The Words of Scripture ought to make that CRYSTAL CLEAR…

    “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the “SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN”. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer . . . be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. . . . Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 2:9-10, 3:9.

    “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye SERPENTS*, ye “GENERATION OF VIPERS”, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Matthew 23:27-33.

    Jesus said unto them, “If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your “FATHER THE DEVIL”, and the “LUSTS” of your father ye will do. He was a “MURDERER” from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a “LIAR”, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. John 8:39-47.

    IF YOU CANNOT SEE THE TRANSMIGRATION OF PRECEDENTS SET IN THE HISTORICAL OBELISK OF TIME – THEN IT IS POINTLESS TRYING TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU!!!


  36. JUST AS THEY WERE “false jews” IN THE DAYS OF JESUS (and the historical evidenciary records) SUPPORTS IT CATEGORICALLY – THE SAME “SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN” EXIST TODAY IN THE NATURAL ETHNOLOGICAL SENSE AS WELL AS IN THE RELIGIO-SPIRITUAL SENSE…


  37. this thread keeps bubbling along.. I wonder what everyone is banging on about getting over excited and angry
    here’s some entertainment from nardo ranks
    Burrup

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    Micro Mock Engineer

    “THE “HISTORICAL ANTECEDENTS” IS AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS COVERING A SPAN OF TIME RIGHT UP TO PRESENT DAY… IF YOU CANNOT SEE THE TRANSMIGRATION OF PRECEDENTS SET IN THE HISTORICAL OBELISK OF TIME – THEN IT IS POINTLESS TRYING TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU!!!”
    ……

    Whuloss TB, now yuh out-shouting GP and Zoe… the transmigration of whu?!? ROFL… look, I en know wha possess me to comment on your erudite submission… must be the historical antecedents of yesterday’s imbibing.

    Based on the quotations you have chosen in your rebuttal, it would appear that you are confusing spiritual and physical kinship… when Jesus told the Pharisees that their father was not God but the Devil, He was speaking in the spiritual sense. Similarly, it is their spiritual kinship with Abraham and not physical descendancy which is in question… have a read of Romans 2:28-29, Romans 9:6-8 and Galatians 3:29.


  39. @MME, you really expect TB to understand your last paragraph!?

    The SDA et al have written off the physical descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, obliterating the mass of OT prophecy re their regarthing back to their ancient homeland (1948) and the absolute amazing, miraculous way they have been kept from ANNIHILATION beginning 48 hours after their official statehood, again in the 1967, six day war, when militarily, logically, mathetically, they the Jews of Israel should have been wiped off the map, YET, they still survive all and every attempt to anniliate them, and they are still those who stupidly CANNOT see and understand that this IS the fulfillment of ALL that Almighty God said through His prophets, would happen, and there is nothing any one can do to stop them, the Jews, from rightfully remaining in their Covenanted homeland.


  40. @ MME
    Man you like you even brighter than the Bushman give you credit for…!! (yuh edging towards another +) LOL

    Brilliant analysis MME. From an early stage, Jesus thought and spoke spiritually….. remember what he told his mother about who his ‘family’ were?
    And his Parables continue the trend.

    This scholarly focus on the ‘history of our world’ and on the semantics of the bible language is interesting, but not particularly relevant to the reality of the spiritual message that is the gospel.

    This is why our brilliant and learned experts will never agree on anything…. it is all about the parable dilemma – human minds trying to make earthly sense of what are spiritual matters.

    …but you like you know the draft MME. You too quiet on BU though; …time to cut back on the imbibing and do some more blogging.


  41. Jesus (Iesus /Iesous) , Zeus , Jupiter( Iupiter) & Serapis are all one and the same. These are names that were applied to a god that was created (made) in the image of Greek ruler Ptolemy Lagi I , also known as Soter. Soter means ” saviour”.
    The life of Jesus is really an allegory of the passage of the Sun through the costellations of the zodiac. The 12 desciples are the 12 signs of the zodiac.


  42. @Bush Tea
    Most of what is presented here is of historical facts. Since you are a learned and often travelled person you can appreciate views of others that are from history. The bible speaks for itself no need for interpreters.


  43. @ ac
    The views are interesting as was said…even scholarly.

    You think that the bible speaks for itself? What does it say -pray tell…..
    ..and whose understanding is correct? GP /Zoe, or the SDAs? ..or the Mormons? ..or the Catholics? ..or the Wesleyan faith? etc

    ..and these are only SOME of the SOME who believe what the bible says…. then there is Not Saved and his crew….

    Of course, you may wish to explore the Bush Tea position which is that NONE of them gets the true message…

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