Two Members Of Parliament David Estwick And Dale Marshall Go At It!

Minister of Economic Affairs, Empowerment, Innovation, Trade, Industry and Commerce

Deputy Opposition Leader and Former Attorney General Dale Marshall

The publicized incident which is alleged to have occurred on the parliament compound last Friday night has set tongues wagging near and far. It is not the norm for a fight or shall we refer to it as a disagreement to occur between our parliamentarians. What makes the report even more alarming is the realization that two of our most prominent members of parliament Minister David Estwick and Deputy Opposition Leader Dale Marshall are the actors involved.

BU understand that the rules of parliament forbids the Commissioner of Police to mount an investigation. Barbadians will have to await the action of the Speaker of the House Michael Carrington. Westminster conventions require the Speaker to investigate and act in a non-partisan manner. Any incident which involves the blandishing of a firearm in a threatening manner merits careful review.

There was a time when such an incident which we understand to have occurred between Marshall and Estwick would have been hushed-up and eventually forgotten. No such luck in a more enlightened age.

BU reserve comment for now to give the Speaker of the House a little time to consult and act.

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  • @David, “Now that we have the shooting incident which resulted in the killing of the 11 year old the public is up to hear on matters related to gun violence.”

    You should add “and now that the shooter has left the island and a warrant has been issued for his arrest”.

    Seems the Nation is outblogging BU on this issue.

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  • @David(BU)

    This is off topic but are we going to see a headline and discussion on the Bjerkhamn matter?

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  • @David(BU)

    This is off topic but I’d like to know if we going to see a headline and discussion on the Bjerkhamn matter?

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  • Ooops…looks like that went in twice because I wasn’t sure if the first submission was successful.

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  • I do not fault the Opposition for boycotting parliament on the grounds that Carrington has not address the issue of a gun policy in parliament during the past month. There is no reason why persons should have guns in parliament. I heard part of Carrington’s response in parliament this morning, and quite frankly he spoke like an idiot. There’s no reason to wait until the EstwickMarshall issue is fully investigated in order to determine if guns should be banned from parliament or not.

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  • @Atman

    That’s the danger of commenting without listening to the whole statement or at least not understanding the part you hear (whether deliberately or otherwise). The Speaker explained that he preferred to wait until the Committee met to decide on a gun policy. He never said he had to wait until the Committee met. He said it was his preference rather than on his own developing a policy as some kind of knee jerk reaction.

    Makes sense to me. Seriously, would you prefer a bi-partisan Committee to lay the foundation for the gun policy against the background of the alleged incident, or for one man to pluck a policy from out of thin air just because he has the power to do so. I suspect if he did it on his own accord, big hot sweaty Mia would then complain about the details of the policy and say the Speaker should have sought Opposition input in crafting the finer details.

    Frankly, Mia outsmarted herself on this one. She thought she was onto something big politically and went beating her chest on the platform. All she’s done is cemented her image as power-hungry and in a big sweaty hurry. As the young people say, she too hypa!

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  • Afraid of the Gun

    BU understand that the rules of parliament forbids the Commissioner of Police to mount an investigation.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Wrong!!!

    The Commissioner of Police has as much jurisdiction to investigate the use of a gun in Parliament, as he does at the private house of Bjerkhamn or at the Barbados Defense Force.

    Parliament is not the US Embassy. If anyone commits a crime in Barbados’ air, land or marine space–the Commissioner of Police has jurisdiction.

    Two things, are you suggesting that if you have power or are privileged, that is to say – you need to be able to make and change laws or have money, you are above the law?

    I am just saying that somebody has to take action before David Estwick shoots and kill Prime Minister Thompson by accident.

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  • @Anonymous

    You are the one missing the whole point. Carrington and whatever committee there may be had a whole month to call an emergency meeting to discuss and establish a gun policy before parliament reconvened following the Easter recess. Why wasn’t it done during that time? That is the point that the opposition is making, and that I agree with. What bright excuse do you or Carrington have to offer for not making that happen?

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  • ''''''FIRE''''''

    excuses and delay tactics

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  • @Anonymous and Atman et al…

    Can anyone tell the Bajan public who is on this Committee?

    Two further separate questions: When did this Committee last meet? And when are they scheduled to next meet?

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  • @Atman

    I notice you haven’t contradicted the essential points I raised in my last post.

    Now tell me, rush and have a committee meet just because Mia says if it doesn’t she will boycott Parliament? When Parliament is on recess? The issue is important but so urgent that Parliament’s recess be broken just because Mia is holding up her skirts on the issue?

    I agree with the Speaker. It is an important issue, but why rush to do something based on emotionalism and knee-jerk reactions? Do it through the proper process and with cool heads prevailing. Must everything for Mia be seen purely in terms of political capital? If so, she can count her losses on this one!!

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  • @CH

    Chris, I really cannot answer those questions because I do not know. But I think I remember the PM saying that there was only one member on the committee if I am not mistaken.

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  • @Atman: “…But I think I remember the PM saying that there was only one member on the committee if I am not mistaken.

    One individual does not make a committee…

    For example, who would “second” any motion?

    My questions stand.

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  • @Anonymous

    Any matter involving guns is very serious and there is no reason why a gun policy could not have been established during the recess. It was not a case where parliament had to interrupt their recess…only those who would be involved in forming that policy. Anyway, maybe we can agree to disagree because the next thing you will be saying is that I’m a BLP supporter. I find that narrow-minded people always seem to think that once you disagree with something one side does, you are a supporter of the other side. I don’t fall victim to partisan politics, I think objectively for myself.

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  • @Chris

    Hope you get your questions answered.

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  • The Commisioner of Police cannot even tell us where Bjerkman is………

    Who does Mia and Co. think they are…..

    Why could’nt they have waited until parliament resumed…..

    It serves the DLP right they pushed ITAL and so far nothing.

    MIA AND OWEN OR WHOEVER SPENT MY MONEY AS THEY LIKED DESERVED TO BE LOCKED UP!

    I am sick of everyone!

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  • @Chris H:

    Members of the current committee are —Carrington, the Member of Parliament for St Michael West, and a first-time parliamentarian and Speaker, he is also the Chairman of the Committee of Privileges, which also includes Minister of Housing and Lands, Michael Lashley; MP for St Philip South, Adriel Brathwaite; Independent MP, Hamilton Lashley; Opposition MP, William Duguid; Minister of the Environment, Dr Denis Lowe; and Member of Parliament for St Lucy, Denis Kellman.

    Published on: 4/16/2010.

    by BARRY ALLEYNE

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  • ATMAN said:

    Chris, I really cannot answer those questions because I do not know.
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    ha ha ha ha Oh lord muh belly 🙂

    Anonymous, Atman could not contradict your essential points because as he said above, HE DOESN’T KNOW.

    @Atman
    …..But I have to ask, what use is it to think objectively when you are not informed? ha ha ha lol?

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  • A whole bunch of theatrics! How about de economy?
    STUPID!

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  • @Atman

    “… the next thing you will be saying is that I’m a BLP supporter. I find that narrow-minded people always seem to think that once you disagree with something one side does, you are a supporter of the other side. I don’t fall victim to partisan politics, I think objectively for myself.”

    The wicked flee when none pursueth. Methinks you doth protest too much. Anyway, I have nothing more to say on the matter… seeing as you didn’t hear the Speaker’s full statement, and also didn’t even know who was on the Committee of Privileges.

    It is all well an good to “think objectively” for oneself as you say, but thinking should be based on knowledge of the facts. End of.

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  • ac // April 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM

    A whole bunch of theatrics! How about de economy?
    STUPID!
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    What can the Barbados parliament tell you that you cannot be made aware of via your tv, or the internet?

    Fruendel Stuart in his contribution to the estimates debate reminded his collegues that no longer are Bajans reliant on parliament to tell them about the world we live in.

    Barbados is part of the world is it not???

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  • Yes, “Mr. Hinds”, Barbados is part of the world.

    And you live WHERE, exactly?

    And your opinion about a land that is very far from you is worth WHAT, exactly?

    Do not be annoying, “Mr. Hinds”.

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  • @Adrian

    I could have looked up that information just as easily as you did, so don’t impress yourself or feel that you know anymore than anybody else. I am not interested in knowing who the members are, but Chris is. I would not be surprise if you and Anonymous are one and the same person. I stated my opinion on the matter and they is no need for me to convince anybody of anything. As usual you are being a childish jackass.

    @Chris

    That information and much more is available here:
    http://www.barbadosparliament.com/hs_asbly_order_paper.php

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  • It is most unfortunate that politics in Barbados has become such that serious matters like this comes down to which political divide you’re on. What would happen if a M.P in future brandishes a gun during a heated debate? Can the speaker then make a ruling on that or has a precedent been set? The public of Barbados needs to know the truth of what happened in the altercation between Estwick and Marshall, if Estwick is wrong he should be disciplined, if Marshall is making a big haraaaah about nothing, then the PUBLIC/VOTERS will discipline him. Whichever way this is NOT a matter to draw political swords on, this matter will show the maturity in the Barbados Parliament.

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  • You people always talking about accountabilty. The politicians need to give accountabilty on matters of real importance . The people did not elect a journalist to take care of the country. If that is what you prefer That shows how easy you can be misled. TV ! INTERNET! give me a break maybe on the next ballot they can be included and you can vote for them.

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  • Above Comment April/20/5.28pm was in response to Adrian Hinds.

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  • @Jack

    That’s his nature, “annoying”, don’t think he can help it.

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  • ''''''FIRE''''''

    to JC -(Just Come)
    who wrote the following and I quote —

    “MIA AND OWEN OR WHOEVER SPENT MY MONEY AS THEY LIKED DESERVED TO BE LOCKED UP! ”

    end of quote ——————————————-

    JC,
    you will come to realise that that is BARE LIES told by the DLP .

    WHY IN THE 14 YEARS —THE OPPOSITION NEVER RAISE THIS IN PARLIAMENT-especially when Thompson was fighting Mascoll and fighting KELLMAN in opposition–WHY

    If you believe that crap you will believe anything

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  • Looka AC if you want to hold the Government of Barbados to account for what is a global problem go right ahead. Your vote is your vote sir!

    meanwhile similar maddening attributes of accountability are available, you are not alone. lol!

    Iranian cleric blames quakes on promiscuous women
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8631775.stm

    A US congressman fears an increase in the population of Guam will cause it to capsize.

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  • AC said:
    You people always talking about accountabilty. The politicians need to give accountabilty on matters of real importance . The people did not elect a journalist to take care of the country. If that is what you prefer That shows how easy you can be misled. TV ! INTERNET! give me a break maybe on the next ballot they can be included and you can vote for them.
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    Well said AC, Adrian keeps revealing that he is not a thinker. Who best to tell us what is going on in the country other than the people we elect and pay to run the country? We have to hold them accountable. But remember, he lives in Boston and has not visited Barbados in years, and quite frankly he has a very low opinion of Barbados from what I have seen him post on other blogsforums in the past. He really has no vested interest in Barbados, he just likes to get on the internet and play politician.

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  • @ Atman

    Everyone can help it. It’s a matter of brightness and balls. Whinging and bleating is always ball-free unbrighteness.

    I live in Barbados. “Adrian Hinds” doesn’t live in Barbados. Mrs. “Hopi” doesn’t live in Barbados. Bits of the entity known to the “BU family” as “Negroman” don’t live in Barbados.

    They are whinging pointlessly from the sidelines. They don’t live here. I do.

    THEY DO NOT LIVE IN BARBADOS.

    But they have opinions. They are entitled to their opinions. I met someone from Trashcanistan who held the opinion that all Bajan goats should wear shoes. He was entitled to hold that opinion.

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  • Jack Bowman // April 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM

    Yes, “Mr. Hinds”, Barbados is part of the world.

    And you live WHERE, exactly?

    And your opinion about a land that is very far from you is worth WHAT, exactly?

    Do not be annoying, “Mr. Hinds”.
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    I am BIM right now. Want to meet so you can tell me to my face whatever?

    Atman you are a drunk and a loser. You did not know and pontificated then as you have done in the past on things you are ignorant of.

    I posted that excerpt from the nationnews article written by Barry Alleyne to demonstrate how recent and readily available the information was. However I am happy to see that you are now finding a need to be informed before speaking, even if you had to be shamed and forced to do so.

    BTW: since the jury is still out on whether Jack Bowman is really Ian Bourne or not. I saw an article on Ian’s website claiming that MS13, the Bloods and Crips are in Barbados, and that recruiting for one or all three (not sure) is mainly Guyanese. Has anyone see this article? lol!

    Ian Bourne has been critical of BU for its anti illegal immigration position.

    Sorry to disappoint you Atman, I am not Anonymous. Don’t be surprise that someone else sees you in the same light. You are what you are, an uninformed drunk, but there is hope. lol!

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  • A Black Bajan Boy

    @ Jack Bowman

    “It’s a matter of brightness and balls.”

    The master of English, please write sentences with “verbs” it is good practise.

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  • @Jack

    That is true, every idiot is entitled to his own opinion. LOL

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  • @poor Atman

    Not even Jack believes that. Jack’s sole reason for being on BU is to deny Negroman and others from publishing their opinions. He failed and continues to fail to achieve any measure of success, so that what he now finds solace in, is to be critical of our spelling and grammar. But it appears that his language maven cloak may have been removed to reveal a perpetrating fraud. lol!

    Are you not in the least bit ashamed to casually form alliances with unkowns to have a modicum of selfworth?

    have a little pride!

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  • Bonny Peppa ( in exile)

    Looka, looka,I want Estwick ta pint he ‘gun’ at me too. An shoot me wid ‘it’. Not only he, but i wood luv Donville Inniss ta pint he ‘gun’ at me too an hit my ‘bulls-eye”. Banggggggggggggg. Dem cud riddle me wid ‘bullets’ any day. De two a dem sexyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

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  • What de hell is taking so long to launch an investigation into the Eastwick/Marshall matter. Now come on parliament almost a month ago and no investigation. This matter could have been dealt with swiftly . Where arethose who could substantiate what happen ? Right know it seems to be one mans word against another. Come on Parliament lets get on with
    the Peoples Business. I suggest those two men be given community service duties as a way to get in touch with the ordinary person.How about garbage
    pick up.

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  • @Adrian

    All I’m going to say to you is that your opinion isn’t worth spit. The discussion I was having with Anonymous (whoever that person may be) had nothing to do with the number of persons on the committee, but whether the committee should have met during the recess to establish a gun policy or not. You are trying so hard to attack me that you’re just making yourself look more and more stupid.

    I saw you tell Barkee on his blog that you have a week off, and he suggested that you get a Jet Blue flight to Barbados, but you told him you were looking at Atlanta instead. You are nowhere near Barbados, why do you come on the people’s blog to tell lies?

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  • @Adrian

    You say i form alliances? Now since when does agreeing with a person on a particular point amount to forming an alliance. You are the pitiful one dude. Anyway, I think stop wasting anymore time on you and get back to more meaningful discussions.

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  • I only have this to say: Never met the guy. But Dr. David Estwick is a man. And it takes a man to do what he did today. He will be standing 10 times greater than all of his detractors.

    As to Mia Mottley, I heard her on the news. She is a small, small woman.

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  • @Bonny Peppa

    You are a real hot one in trute. If you want to meet “De Pitbull” you can go the Cross-Roads Bar near Six-Roads in St. Philip any night that they have karaoke. I saw him there two weeks ago.

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  • Atman, so why didn’t you take the opportunity to get the facts you so intensely desire?

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  • @Albert

    Like I said…I have no more time to waste with you.

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  • OK, my very last comment on this. (and no I am not AH)

    So the Opposition will be back next week. I take it Dale Marshall will use the opportunity to apologise to the House for his part in this incident.

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  • @Atman:
    you are truly more foolish than I had imagine. What gives that I am being honest with Barkee and lying to you? I have no interest in meeting with anyone from any blog. My whereabouts are no ones busness and as such I will say whatever, whenever about my present location. Tuh Barkee I am in Atlanta, tuh you I am in Barbados, and tomorrow I will be in England. lol! Had a nice day at home tuhday, good tuh see de family again. lol!

    I guess I am Albert too.

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  • Wishing In Vain

    Estwick has his say

    Minister of Economic Affairs, Dr David Estwick has denied brandishing a gun in the precincts of Parliament last month during the Estimates debate.

    But he did apologise to the Speaker of the House, for his behaviour on March 19 when he was involved in a heated altercation with an opposing member of the House that led to an incident which has now become a national issue, and led to today’s Opposition boycott of Parliament.

    In a brief statement in the Upper House today, Estwick also denied that he had threatened former Attorney General, Dale Marshall after a heated argument between the two outside of the august chamber, but still within the precincts of Parliament.

    Just last week, Marshall made an official complaint to police, claiming that he had been threatened by Estwick, and felt intimidated and fearful for his life during the alleged incident.

    “On the day in question, certain remarks made across the political divide caused me to leave the chamber and to get into a heated discussion with two members of the Opposition within the precincts of Parliament,” Estwick said.

    “Let me make it abundantly clear to all, that I did not initiate the confrontation,” he told the Speaker. “..And neither did I brandish, or threaten with a weapon, any member of this House, as has been implicitly speculated. Nevertheless, Mr Speaker, even though there have been attempts to blow this matter entirely out of proportion, I wish to apologise to you for whatever part I may have played in the events of March 19, 2010.

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  • Afraid of the Gun

    The DLP promised a Code of Conduct. Where is it? yet another broken promised.

    I think the BLP is reasonable in this matter but the Dems do not wnat to be held accountable. It behaves as if it is above the law.

    Is the DLP above the law? You decide:

    http://blp.org.bb/blptv/news

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  • Afraid of the Gun

    Owen Arthur supports Mia Mottley 100%. Listen carefully, Adrian Hinds and Wishing In Vain:

    http://blp.org.bb/blptv/news

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  • Afraid of the Gun

    Everybody knows Dale!

    He is an alright fellah. You know Dale. All he does is smile.

    Yes! I mean Dale the toothpaste man–cool, level headed, don’t get angry–never looses his cool.

    How could you pull a gun on a fellah like Dale?

    You could pull a gun on Woggie, Barry Jack or some other person–but not smiley Dale–a man who does not get angry.

    http://blp.org.bb/blptv/news

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  • Afraid of the Gun, you were not afraid of the GUN WHEN BILLIE MILLER SHOT LINDSAY BOLDEN ?

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  • Afraid of the Gun, you were not afraid of the GUN WHEN BILLIE MILLER SHOT LINDSAY BOLDEN ?

    Stop spreading lies you have no proof of that.

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  • You all have proof that Estwick brandish a gun!

    We have proof that Owen breed Julie doh and what about Mia btingout people’s clitorises LOL

    Proof shite!

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  • For someone that was dead set on not allowing the freedom of speech and freedom of expression do you really think that anything coming from this thing can be taken as serious and real??

    Her ambiguous nature both politically and sexually would suggest that she would be quick to say whatever is required to serve her purpose but with no real serious conviction or substance. Here in lies one of her problems in convincing John Public that anything she says is sincere and genuine David,

    Mottley is a depraved disgusting beast that cannot be trusted with money, wealth or other female flesh.

    For someone that was dead set on not allowing the freedom of speech and freedom of expression, do you really think that anything coming from this thing can be taken as serious and real??

    Its ambiguous nature both politically and sexually would suggest that it would be quick to say whatever is required to serve its purpose but with no real serious conviction or substance.

    Herein lies one of its problems in convincing John Public that anything it says is sincere and genuine as we have seen time and time again its willingness to do what it takes reach its final position.

    Seeing its willingness to eavesdrop on telephone calls of ordinary Barbadians who knows where it would stop to gain power??

    May I remind it that Owing has fired a warning shot across its bow by reminding it that he is going nowhere and it will have him to contend with from here on down the line.

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  • I feel sorry fuh wunna hardcore party supporters on both sides…y’all just don’t understand that no one side is always right or always wrong. It’s just pitiful.

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  • WIV (Warped Intellectual View)

    The MO employed for the elections is now obsolete. Your party is into its third calendar year of government ALL eyes are on you, and the people are, justifiably, staring.

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  • Wishing In Vain

    Speaker’s say

    SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY, Michael Carrington, has described the Opposition Barbados Labour Party’s boycott of yesterday’s sitting as a slap in the face of the parliamentary process and bordering on contempt.

    Carrington cited several comments made by Opposition Leader Mia Mottley, printed in both daily newspapers yesterday.

    “It may be necessary for this Chamber to take further action,” the Speaker warned.

    In addition, Carrington said a firearms policy would not be introduced at the House simply because other jurisdictions had done so; on the insistence of a few MPs; or as a knee-jerk reaction sensationalised by the media.

    He also defended his actions since the matter was officially brought to his attention.

    “I deprecate the suggestions made both directly and obliquely that the Speaker has not done his job properly, or quickly enough. I consider it an insult to this office,” he told the House during a 23-minute statement.

    Carrington said both Marshall and Mottley had requested the matter be heard by the Committee of Privileges, but yet neither were in their seats yesterday.

    He noted that in this regard, the incident was reported to have taken place when the House was in Committee of Supply, and that Barbados’ system of government considered matters of privilege to be of paramount importance, and that such matters be raised at the earliest possible time, which would have been when he took the chair for conclusion of the evening’s debate.

    “It was not so raised, yet leave has been granted to have it raised this morning,” the Speaker said, explaining why he had taken the opportunity to speak on the matter yesterday.

    Carrington also called for more Members of Parliament (MPs) to seek clarification from Parliamentary staff regarding the exact rules of the House, and what actions should be taken in an effort to have certain matters expedited.

    “I regret having to deal with this matter in this way, at this time. I am of the view that it is necessary to preserve the authority of this honourable chamber. I have received no indication from any member of Her Majesty’s Opposition about his or her absence this morning.”

    The Speaker said it was not for him to speculate as to why they were absent, but he considered their no-show unfortunate.

    He read to the House the dates, times and details of every piece of communication he received from Member of Parliament for St Joseph, Dale Marshall, and Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley, between March 19 (the date of an alleged incident between Marshall and Minister of Economic Affairs, Dr David Estwick) and yesterday.

    Carrington revealed that he also wrote Mottley on April 14, 2010, informing her that he advised that matters which involved the authority and dignity of the House would be investigated by the Committee of Privileges.

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  • Like it or lump it

    De BLP soft? Man listen to me if I was in de House I would take my gun to Parliament to and when any of de Dems tell me something I didn’t like I would pull my gun and use it. Is this the kind of society that Thompson said that he was building?

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  • Like it or lump it

    Man what Committee of Priviledge sh*te let every body bring down dey guns and settle any issues that has to be settled on the outside

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  • Just hear Mama Mia on radio. OK, so her story today is that the Opposition is going back to Parliament next week because the Speaker has acknowledged that he has the power to set a gun policy if he chooses. This is all they wanted. It was not that they weren’t going back unless there was a gun policy in place. It was that they weren’t going back until the Speaker acknowledged he has the power to set a gun policy.

    Nice try Mia. You gambled and lost big time on this one. No amount of spin can wash all that egg from off ya face. Anyway, keep spinning. Think Bajans stupid nuh? Ah done wid dat.

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  • Atman, you are not only losing us all with your harping on non-issues but you are exposing your own partisanship. Estwick apologised. What more most he do?

    The Speaker said he will deal with the gun policy in due course. Mia said she is going back to the House.

    And you are still griping. So what is your point?

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  • @Albert

    Seems like you are badly in need of someone to have a conversation with. Go fly a kite…or play with yourself.

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  • Afraid of the Gun

    David Thompson is building a “Gun Society.”

    But he should do all in his power to ensure that hot-head David Estwick does not shoot and kill him accidentally.

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  • Afraid of the Gun

    @ Albert,

    So if the man that shot and killed that little boy, apologise–should the Police drop all charges against him?

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  • Estwick has denied brandishing a gun. My advice to Ms. Mottley is that she should move early to have the footage of the video camera in Parliament remove from Parliament and place in the precincts of the Law Court, although it may not be any safer there.

    I fear that this footage will go missing.

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  • @Royalrumble: “Estwick has denied brandishing a gun.

    My personal interpretation of what Dr. Estwick said in parliament on Monday was that he claims he did not brandishing a gun *in a threatening manner*.

    This could be interpreted to mean that Dr. Estwick might have show his “piece”, but claims to not have intended to communicate threat. (Why else would one show a weapon?)

    Language is important…

    Particularity when you’re dealing with Lawyers and Doctors….

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  • Albert // April 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM

    Atman, you are not only losing us all with your harping on non-issues but you are exposing your own partisanship. Estwick apologised. What more most he do?

    The Speaker said he will deal with the gun policy in due course. Mia said she is going back to the House.

    And you are still griping. So what is your point?
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    ha ha ha ha ha lord oh lord. Point? what might that be? ha ha ha

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  • On March 19 during Dale Marshall contribution. Mia Mottley was constantly talking in the background. At one point she said “we gine get you or the auditor general will” who was she referring too? Estwick? Is this all designed to “get” Estwick? Mottley has been trying for sometime to develop a rift between Thompson and Estwick. Fellas don’t let her win. lol!

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  • No truth to the gun rumour but yet an apology . Prior to yesterday talk about gun or firearm policy during tke Movada VIBZ press conference . Then without the facts it appears that the issue was one on concern. Now to more pertinent facts, does my member of parliament as an Hon member of the opposition have the same rights in parliament as government MPS and rights as a private citizen.? As an ordinary constituent without the backing of a council of 15 or 450 I’m just asking.

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  • Christopher Halsall
    This is the quote from Minister Estwick
    “I did not initiate the confrontation and neither did I brandished or threaten with a weapon any member of this house as has been implicitly speculated”
    Where in this quote is he saying that he brandished a weapon?

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  • @Anonymous… Thank you for your above.

    From what official record is this from?

    Where are the transcripts?

    Maybe I’m running down a rat hole, looking for cheese…

    But *something* must have happened in Parliament involving a projectile weapon, no matter how much qualifying language is wrapped around the incident.

    Perspiring [sic] minds (read: the Public) want to know….

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  • bonny pepper—my baby
    i love yuh
    missed yuh bad

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  • Bonny Peppa ( in exile)

    Dolphin Mout
    I luv you too baby. but wah really happen dat ya in hearing me now is becaus de ol computa outta commission. I got access to a frien whun fa now.doan kno fa how long caus i doan want ta abuse de privilege. next ting ya know, he gun be pinting he gun at me an de only gun i want pinting at me rite now is , ya know who? Yes boy, Estwick or Donville.
    An by de way, I luv suckin ‘dolphin mout’ hearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

    Halsall
    You still peepin ova dem glasses n talkin shoiteeeeeeee? Stupseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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  • So how come nobody has commented on Dale Marshall’s statement to the Speaker yesterday regarding Estwick’s behaviour?

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  • Dear Atman:

    Nicely written statement.

    Nice and smooth.

    Now I’d like to hear Estwick’s statements and those of the witnesses, Mottley, Forde, the Housing Minister, the policeman etc.. And I’d like to see/hear the unedited tape recording of that whole day’s sitting played on radion and on TV.

    ‘Cause Parliament’s business is my business.

    But the thing is Dale say he ain’t do Estwick nuthin’ and he ain’t say nuthing bad to he.

    I’d like to cross examine Dale (or examine he in some way or de other) and ask he where did he think that Estwick’s anger come from?

    Dale alledges that Estwick was hostile belligerent etc. Serious words for serious anger. Most of us unless we are mad men do not get angry for “nothing” And I don’t believe that any of the Honourable Members are mad. Serious anger is generally stoked by something.

    Another thing I noticed is that the Honourable Membwers all speak Bajan dialect.

    Is this a good thing?

    Or a bad thing?

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  • Notice today that Estwick is telling Marshall/BLP to bring the evidence or shut up. Did we read that in Marshall’s statement to the House he indicated that MP for St. Phillip North was involved in the melee?

    Is it he will deny that Estwick brandished his weapon? They really take the people for fools and as usual our politicians go to New York to sound off.

    http://www.nationnews.com/news/local/estwick-bring-evidence-FRONT-PAGE-OTHER

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  • Estwick: Bring the evidence

    by TONY BEST

    PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

    That’s what Minister of Economic Affairs Dr David Estwick is demanding of Opposition parliamentarian and former Attorney-General Dale Marshall, if he is to prove his allegation that the Cabinet minister pulled a gun on him during a verbal altercation in the precincts of Parliament.

    In New York where he participated in an investment seminar on insurance sponsored by Invest Barbados, Estwick told WEEKEND NATION:

    “The fact of the matter is that it has gone too far. He [Marshall] is going to do two things and my good friend Owen Arthur [former Prime Minister]. You either bring the evidence, shut up or you are going to be deal with it in the large courts.

    “It is as simple as that. Because my good friend, the former Prime Minister was in St Lucia [when the incident allegedly occurred].

    “He doesn’t know what’s going on. But I heard him [Arthur] on the platform [saying] my behaviour was an abomination to the parliament and a lot of things. I am stopping all of that.

    “You either bring the evidence or shut up and as a result of that, the matter will be dealt with in the appropriate legal way and you can rest assured that process might already have been started while I am here in New York and that’s all I will have to say on that matter.”

    Estwick said he would ask Barbadians to remember one thing: “If your Parliament is the highest court in the land, then by extension the Speaker of the House acts as a High Court judge.

    “There is a procedure that is akin to what happens in a normal court; you have an allegation so you come and you lay a case. You lay the case before the judge. The judge, in this case, the Speaker, will determine after investigations carried out, whether what you are saying is true or not and therefore no further action is required.”

    Estwick said he was sick and tired of the untrue allegations being made against him and insisted that Marshall, the representative for St Joseph in the House of Assembly, present his case in the appropriate parliamentary forum.

    Failing that, he said, he might be forced to do it in the law courts.

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  • Bring the evidence? What exactly does that mean? Marshall is a witness and there are other witnesses that saw at least part of the incident, and reportedly had to pull the two parliamentarians apart. I don’t understand the challenge to bring the evidence.

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