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Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley

The two of the most uncouth people known to the Barbadian people, in Mottley and Forde reportedly walked out of the last evenings National Independence Celebration event, this  event  is a National event and good manners would suggest more from them than this very poor showing of bad manners.

They walked out at the end of the entertainment program and as a mark of total disrespect to our Governor General and to the Forces on display at the event and even more so to the good people of Barbados who pay their salary, they left the venue of a National event in a huff and puff. I am really disappointed in their lack class or occasion this lot needs to put the politics aside at times such as these National events and show political maturity but not even that can they get done in the name of what is good for Barbados and its people.

I don’t know what prompted them to take offence but it was a clear message that they were unhappy with the evening and being there, National pride and a more mature politician would have made it their business to sit and observe the program to its conclusion.
I do not know what prompted them to walk out but the two of them chatted and were discussing something in the program booklet and then made a swift exit.

Member of Parliament Cynthia Forde

Good manners would dictate a different set of behaviour and a better show of manners, that is provided these persons understand what an evening like this represents and what it stands for. ‎​It was a most sad display of childish behaviour, as I just said to very good friend that this was a National event not a DLP or BLP one and something that should be supported across the political divide but thanks to the lack of political maturity and good sense Mottley and Forde threw good judgement thru the window and acted with a degree of selfishness that is indicative of an offensive politician.

My sincere advice to them both is to rethink their method of operation and refrain from their constant negativity and become more positive in their outlook and assist the Nation with being part of the solution rather than being part of the cause of the problem, a word to the wise is enough.

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237 responses to “Did Opposition Members Walk Out Of The National Independence Program?”

  1. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    But what is Mia saying in the following? What is she highlighting as a governmental constraint in need of change? Is this constraint currently the case? Was it or ideas about contained in the Document Roy Marshall handed to her back in 2004?

    On Nov 30th Mia said….
    GOVERNMENT MUST COME into the 21st century if it wants to serve the needs and expectations of Barbadians

    Chapter 4 of the Law and Order report

    “In fulfilment of that requirement, the
    Commission made it clear that productive
    involvement of civil society in such
    an endeavour would require recognition
    of deficiencies in our present arrangements
    for government and acceptance of
    the need for appropriate reform.

    FOR FOUR YEARS SHE SAT AND DID NOTHING.

  2. Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) Avatar
    Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados)

    @ ‘Negroman’ // December 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM When you write under a pseudonym, then a comment such as “You know nothing about me .You can only based your opinions of me by the postings I make on this blog.” is a self evident truth. Why not help us know about you and be your true self?

    Whether one agrees or disagrees with Chris Halsall, we know to whom and with whom we are dealing. If we are so inclined, we can go and punch him in the nose if it made us feel better. So, to then discuss whether you think he is genuine is putting the tail on the front of the donkey.

    If your passport is in order–and you will have to travel under your real name–I can point you to some places to visit where you can see for yourself that black people have plenty of hate in their heart for other black people. These are places that are remote and not exposed to European, Asian or other foreign influence for a good 500-1000 years at least.

  3. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Mia, below is part of what young Barbadians were saying to the government back in 2004, by way of the Roy Marshall report that was delivered to you. Surely you have read it

    “4.6.8. Perceptions of the youth about
    governance as it now is
    There are some very strong perceptions
    among youth about their own
    situation and how they are treated by
    the state. These perceptions which were
    voiced during the Commission’s “walkabouts”
    cause a high degree of resentment
    and frustration. Whether they are
    true or false, they are cause for concern
    and need to receive serious attention.
    The perceptions are as follows:
    * there is no opportunity for youth to
    participate, no matter how positively;
    * any effort by youth to come together is
    viewed with suspicion;
    * young persons have an entrepreneurial
    spirit and seek self-employment but are not
    given a fair chance; and
    * the underprivileged are targeted in the
    justice system, while persons with
    influence are excused.”

    IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT BARBADIANS NEED INPENDENCE FROM CENTRALIZE GOVERNMENT.

    The final step must include participation in the governance process by the people.

  4. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    that black people have plenty of hate in their heart for other black

    INDEED

    Negroman need not travel to know this. I can send him proof gathered right out of the horse’s mouth.

  5. Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) Avatar
    Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados)

    @Adrian Hinds, remember that ‘hate’ is a very intense human emotion. Demonstrating it is not a major discovery. But denying its existence is an exercise in self delusion. As I discussed some time ago on another thread in another context, it is like xenophobia. It is quite natural. But people try to deny its existence in and around themselves.

    If and when it is exhibited it also has its context, its breadth and its duration. If you study hard and look at its opposite, love, you will see (if you do not already know) that it may never be really understood by other people.

    By the way, which ‘horse’ are you referring to? After all the talk about cattle, is that a judicious allusion?

  6. David Avatar
    David

    @Alex

    Do you deny the BLP government fuelled economic growth based on construction and foreign direct investment i.e selling off our prime coastal lands?

    Do you deny that the global recession would have caused FDI to slow since such investment has a relationship to the capital markets on in contraction?

  7. Richard Avatar
    Richard

    This place is supremely disgusting. This thread reminds me of glen beck on fox news. None of you third world banana republic uneducated sods care about your own country. [I know i know, here is my disclaimer. i said uneducated, i am sure many of your are well certified with the paper degrees we get in these parts… ]

    Anyway…

    I dont think you guys even know how to care. This is disgusting. Sylvan if these posts are really you, you need to find other employment. You are woefully uneducated, the airs you put on are transparent and embarrasing. What you are saying from the little i have read make no sense, its diatribe. Its childish, its puerile.

    Its like a bunch of school girls arguing about god knows what. You all so clever, running around, dropping names and ripping off you all 2 cents that you cannot see what the country is turning into.

  8. ac Avatar
    ac

    @Adrian Hinds

    Question Why are you so eager to defend the acinine remarks made by chris.Do you think those remarks were in good taste and befitting of a person with sound and practical thinking.
    You are ridiculous.You ought to be ashamed of yourself
    I have already spoken my peace about chris bit what bothers me more so is the “so called friends he has they refuse to tell him that he was wrong .

  9. PETER 7 Avatar
    PETER 7

    MIA !
    MIA
    PRIME MINISTER

    MIA
    MIA !
    PRIME MINISTER !

    SOUNDS GOOD TO THE EARS

  10. PETER 7 Avatar
    PETER 7

    According to information on this Blog
    The DLP does not know what it is doing
    The BLP is corrupt or was corrupt (speculation I might add)

    So what are we going to do?
    Under which party does the country and its people benefit most ?
    The BLP or the DLP

    What are we going to do

  11. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ David

    “..the BLP government fuelled economic growth based on construction and foreign direct investment i.e selling off our prime coastal lands?”

    Selling off prime coastal lands? Rubbish!!

  12. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    @ Peter 7
    I working against any party that Mia Leads. I cannot in good conscience in a democracy, accept a party who’s Leader was picked by eight people, presumably against the wishes of thousands of party members.

    @AC
    De man apologize, I accept his apology. I did so on looking at his endevours previous to his utterance; by so doing I felt that he could not have had a deep dislike towards Barbadians base on race, color, and or creed.
    Assuming that you disagree and therefore did not accept his apology please tell me why. Ridiculous? I don’t think so, Ashamed? don’t know how to be, but if you willing to pay me to be, I could fake it well. lol!

    @Enuff
    Man tell David how so, is his comment rubbish. You would want him to believe you no doubt!

  13. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    This is stunning indeed, was there a co relation between their deparure and Don’t Bite Me Barnabas???

    If there is a link it would absolutely funny!!!!

    Mr Barnabas

    It has now been brought to my attention exactly why the Leader of The Opposition and Forde left the Garrison Independence Ceremony on Sunday evening, it is quite an understanderable reason now that it has been fully explained.

    I have been told by those that know Ms Mia Mottley very well that she felt that the DLP was disrespectful to her by allowing the Merrymen to sing Don’t Bite Me Barnabas, Don’t Bite Me at the Sunday Function.

    Pretty childish if you ask me honestly

  14. ac Avatar
    ac

    @Adrian Hinds
    Firstly i was one of the few who accepted his first apology,
    It doesn’tmatter to me on what terms or conditions past or present , how when or where you did accept the apology
    However what does matter is how you and others cannot bring yourself to saying openly that he was wrong is saying what he said.
    Speaking of “fake” you have already proven yourself as such i.e. “fake”
    LOL

  15. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    Most nations depend on FDI, whether for tourism development, natural resource extraction, manufacturing or agricultural production etc. The Bees according to David focused on FDI for coastal tourism; now it is up to the Dems to adopt their own approach or continue the former’s. What I do know is that the need for FDI will remain a key plank of the economic model, unless we are about to come into a hefty inheritance and I am no economist.

    However, I was not addressing his description/interpretation of the former administration’s economic model, but more so what the ‘selling off of coastal lands’ comment implies.

    I don’t consider the redevelopment of existing sites to increase capacity ‘selling off’, it gives the impression that VIRGIN lands were developed. If you drive down the west coast 95% of the new coastal projects were redevelopments of existing properties. The south Coast was a concrete jungle for years, and again most of the new developments were on lands with existing development.

    I doubt very much that the trend would have been any different if it were the DLP in power during this period.

    Compatibility is a key pillar of land use planning, and our southern and western coastal lands are for the most part suited to the type of development seen given what existed. Issues of scale, architectural design, beach access etc are separate and distinct to the issue of USE. What took place and continues, is just a natural progression influenced by the existing uses.

    The so-called ‘selling off’ would have occurred inland–Apes Hill, Westmoreland, Banyan, Lakes etc. A more apt claim would therefore have been the selling off of agricultural lands, which in itself is another debate.

    Furthermore, as far as I know the lands sold belonged to private land owners, no?

  16. David Avatar
    David

    @Enuff

    Does it matter if the coastal property sold was in private hands? What should have been of concern to you then and now is the lack of a coherent national policy governing how land resources change hands. This is of paramount concern to an island like Barbados, 21×14.

  17. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    @AC
    I cannot recall ever responding to anything you have said. Could be that I had agreed or whatever you said did not tickle my fancy.

    It is likely that you treat my comments the same way. Contrary to what you are suggesting, I wrote the following.
    =========================
    Adrian Hinds // December 2, 2009 at 5:59 PM

    Poor choice of words? yes, to suggest chris as a racist for so uttering? nonsense.
    ==========================

    I took into consideration all that I have read and seen Chris do that benefited Barbadians. Where it that Chris had repeatedly offended Barbadians such as the Jamaican LIB was very fond of doing, then I would have been on your side, and cuss his ass out.

  18. ac Avatar
    ac

    @Adrian

    The issue for me is not about taking sides it but rather about speaking or telling whatis right and nomatter how good people think they are they at times messed up and if were are a true friend we let them know it.
    The problem with you is that you are willing to give chris a pass on this comment because of as you put”everything he has done for Barbados” I commend him for his valiant efforts but I will reprimand him when he is wrong unlike you.
    You effort in trying to blame the messenger is well taken by me.

  19. ac Avatar
    ac

    @Adrian
    I wonder if Mia Mottley had made the same comment taking all that you have said to come to your friend’s defense
    Question ; Would you have been so easy to defend she too have done “good things for Barbados”
    Have a nice life .
    You jus don’t get it
    Peace and out.
    F

  20. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    But AC when you speak up for what is right are you not taking a side? the “right” side? lol!

    I did not give Chris a pass. I accepted his apology. You do understand the difference!

    No blaming of the messenger. Negroman pretty much admitted that he use Chris’s transgression as a peak-hole into which he entered his much bigger argument concerning the plight of the black man.

    If your wondering about Mia’s assume actions and my reaction is derived from my near constant opposition to her current intentions, please consider that I back her and Owen Arthur 212 percent in their bid to secure Barbados rights to its economic zone against Trinidad. Till this day I still believe that Thompson and the DLP got it wrong.

  21. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ David,

    “…the lack of a coherent national policy governing how land resources change hands. This is of paramount concern to an island like Barbados, 21×14.”

    Am I to assume you are referring to the sale of land to non-nationals?

  22. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    And we thought the fight was only between Owin and Mottley??

    Well think again the fight is all through the BLP, with a Doctor putting together a plan to remove Mottley in short order, with the full support and blessings and involvement from Owing, the time is near.

    David you need to investigate and report on the matter that raised its head today at a luncheon hosted by Mr Duguid for the senior citizens of his constituency.

    Reports reaching me are that Forde is fuelling the flames to have Mr Duguid removed as the representative of the constituency, her grudge is that she feels that with him being away as often as he is away, that he is not providing service to the people but also too it is based on the fact that Mottley is not at peace with Duguid and she feels more at ease with the FEMALE DENTIST who has been seen spending more and more time in Mottley’s company.

    So intent the Branch and Forde and Mottley are to remove him that they were the ones calling for the press to attend the luncheon so that the show of protest could be documented and displayed.

    The luncheon was held and they were there to protest and so they did, but Duguid got his own back at Mottley and Forde by seeing them and not acknowledging any of them.

  23. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    Why this vicious attack on women and on the Leader of the Opposition of Barbados – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P.,?

    It is because the DLP is a male chauvinist party as stated by Mazie Barker-Welch?

    Is it because Barbadians no longer have confidence in the DLP and are looking to Mia Mottley and Team Barbados Labour Party for the answers that the Dems obviously do not have?

    It is why many now agree that the Barbados Labour Party – will win the next general election?

  24. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    Why this vicious attack on women REALLY SOME SUGGEST SHE IS MORE OF THE OTHER MAKING THAN HOW SHE WAS DELIVERED TO THIS EARTH, DON’T MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH AT YOU CLOWNS EVEN MORE. and on the Leader of the Opposition of Barbados – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P.,

  25. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    Let me say to you despite your wishes the next leader of this BLP will not be Mottley once the internal planning takes hold, between the Doctor and the short Runt from St Peter she is history, my question to you is how will she take will she stay and take it like a man or will she run and hide having suffer the major slap in the face??

  26. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    Between 1994 and 2008 – the people of this country had a winner -in Team Barbados Labour Party – but there was a lapse in judgment on their part and on January 15th 2008 and they voted for the DLP. Ever since then Barbados has been on a free fall from prosperity to crisis.

    The DLP failed and Barbados is falling-by the hour.

    As a result, the people feel betrayed are disappointed and broken-hearted, because they now realise that they are paying for their error in their pockets and in their banks account and are forced to watch helplessly, as the DLP confiscate more and more of their wealth, daily through more taxation.

    Essentially, the DLP is d-valuing and making Barbadians poor, while doing all in its power to protect hartley henry and serve CLICO.

    But the people of this country can again do well and prosper with a renewed and recommitted, experience and competent Barbados Labour Party government – as they did between 1994 and 2008.

    Were it asked to operate with the same global economic challenges, the Barbados Labour Party would be preparing a feast for the people of this country – not bellyaching and blaming – as the ruling outfit is now doing.

    In fact, if the Barbados Labour Party was in office – this country would never be in the horrible position it now is because of the incompetence and reckless mismanagement by the DLP, which does not know what it s doing.

  27. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    No this gov’t does not know corruption and dishonesty as you masterminded it to do.

  28. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    David Thompson and the DLP have cancelled Christmas this year:

    +++++++++++++++++

    Having triggered a meltdown of the Barbados economy, as a result of bad decision; poor judgment and flawed policy, which has so far seen over 6,000 people losing their jobs – Prime Minister Thompson has decided to go in for the kill and is tightening the screws even tighter on poor people.

    Not satisfied after snatching over $180 million from the people in his 2008 inflationary budget – David Thompson increased Water rates by 60%, while his uncaring; inhumane Government is now turning off the water of 73-year-old-pensioners, who owe a mere $67.39 – even though Clico has a $93 million statutory fund deficit, that he is not concerned about.

    But if Barbadians thought that that was going to be all for the year – David Thompson went at it again.

    As a result, poor people who were trying desperately to buy food- now have to pay more for Kerosene to cook it.

    On their little pensions – old ladies are finding that they are likely to starve this Christmas, because the water cost 60% more, the cost of living keeps going up and now David Thompson has sent up Kerosene.

    Why has the DLP launched an unprovoked attack on poor people at Christmas?

    In what can only be described as the most wicked and vindictive act – even by this uncaring; inhumane DLP government standards, poor people in Barbados – who are already reeling from a 60% increase in their water bills – will now have to fork-out more for kerosene.

    The simple point that I am trying to make is that as a result of the economic mis-management of the DLP, which does not know what it is doing – poor people who were already struggling with high cost of living – will now have to also deal with having to pay more for kerosene.

    AND WHILE THE POOR PEOPLE OF BARBADOS STRUGGLE – THOMPSON SAYS THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE A CASH-FLOW PROBLEM.

    David Thompson and the DLP are turning off old ladies water for $67.39 but gave CLICO $20 million; wrote off $19 million for the Turf Club and does not care that CLICO does not have the $93 million a fund that the law says it should have.

  29. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    The DLP’s Independence Bashment Fete is Environmentally and Energy un-friendly and the Auditor General must take note.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    No one has yet stated exactly how much has the DLP’s Independence bashment Fete will cost the same taxpayer’s who cannot get their Income Tax Returns and who were not allowed to pee in those high-cost-air- conditioned-toilets, that were specially provided for DLP Ministers.

    But it is a national scandal that – right in the middle of an economic crisis, which was triggered by the DLP – that the same DLP would turn around and add to the national expenditure bill by making our National-Traditional- Dignified, Independence Parade – an environmentally un-friendly bashment fete.

    Instead of utilizing natural Bajan sunlight during the day – the DLP has increased the national energy bill by holding a bashment fete at night on the Garrison, thereby requiring expensive-high-powered lights.

    Then there is the cost of tents, chairs, stage and other lighting, the air conditioned toilets for DLP Minister; chemical toilets for poor people and drinks for DLP Minister.

    The cost of this bashment fete must be captured by the Auditor General, as not complying with the Financial Rules, thereby requiring a deduction from the salaries of DLP Ministers.

    This is further evidence that the DLP does not know what it is doing and is therefore an unjustifiable expense to Barbadian taxpayers.

    The Independence Bashment fete, as conceptualized by the DLP, is not energy or environmentally friendly.

    It is what it is: unnecessary cost to the taxpayers but the DLP will argue that it is part of the: “David Thompson fatted calf doctrine.”

  30. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    David Thompson, who sent home over 52 at the UDC (over time) and will also send home an equal amount from the BWA next year – now says that he is creating 500 jobs.

    Meanwhile, the 850 who lost their jobs at Four Seasons are still home and no employee in Barbados know if he or she will have a job next month.

  31. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    Let me take you back to the headline of this topic and I ask you to Tell Barbadians why your standin leader and Forde refused to attend the formal part of the Independence Ceremony at the Garrison?????

  32. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    And we are still waitin in vain I would say to hear why you and you lot walked out of the Ceremony???

    Let me take you back to the headline of this topic and I ask you to Tell Barbadians why your standin leader and Forde refused to attend the formal part of the Independence Ceremony at the Garrison?????

  33. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    @ Wishing In Vain

    The DLP’s ongoing allegation of corruption is yet another in its never-ending-series of big lies.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    On what basis could the DLP constantly accuse the former administration of corruption, especially when at that time – Transparency International was telling the entire world that the countries, which hartley henry was advising – were far more corrupt than Barbados, which – then under BLP stewardship – was the least corrupt in the Caribbean?

    The truth is that despite the aggressive efforts of Denis Lowe, George Bispham and others within the last two years to dominate and feed at the trough, which have resulted in a Cabinet reshuffle and the holding of two retreats – their efforts are still not enough to cause Barbados to lose its prestigious rating as the least corrupt country in the Caribbean – according to Transparency International. Why?

    Because in terms of bribery, collusion and corruption, Barbados under the stewardship of Team Barbados Labour Party – was crystal clear and squeaky clean.

    This therefore points to the folly of the allegation by the DLP.

    It must also be note that it was Team BLP, which amended the Financial Administration and Audit (Financial) Rules, 1971 Cap. 5 of the laws of Barbados to make Minister personally liable for all public funds misspent or wasted, where the PS warned in writing against them (Ministers) doing such.

  34. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @Alex Fergusson

    Who is George Bispham?

  35. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    Another DLP Disaster

    Barbadians have seen a DLP disaster before (1991-1994) but nothing to compare with what the DLP has done between January 15, 2008 and now.

    This country is in serious trouble. It is why in their wisdom and in a patriotic effort to avert the DLP doing further damage – the people of Barbados are turning to the competent, experienced and skilled team of the Barbados Labour Party.

    The people of Barbados accept and are also aware that during the time of prosperity – the Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P., was right there in the drivers seat with her hands planted firmly on the wheel, providing sound leadership and direction.

    They know that Miss Mottley has already unveiled a fresh, innovative and progressive vision for Barbados and has the competence, skills and leadership ability and experience to stop the free fall and put Barbados back on the highway to prosperity, growth and progress.

    The people of Barbados are aware that for the past 71 years, the Barbados Labour Party and its unmatched economic leadership – has been a beacon of hope and a safe harbour in times of dangerous storms, as has now been manufactured by the DLP.

    This is only the worst crisis ever because the incompetent-DLP, which does not know what it is doing – is in office. If the BLP was in office at this time – Barbados would never be in this position and faced with these same conditions it would be preparing a feast for Barbadians not making them suck salts as the DLP now does.

  36. Alex Fergusson Avatar
    Alex Fergusson

    Since the PM said that there is no cash-flow problem, what is the reason why salaries are not being paid – as they have been for the past 49 years?

    It cannot be an interpretation of the law because the Insurance Act is very clear on the issue of the Statutory Fund.

    That Act is not being enforced and the question must therefore be asked – why the selective application of interpretation of the law as it relates to Section 24 (2) (a) of the Financial Administration and Audit Act, (L.R.O. 2002) which provides:

    24. (2) “Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary in any enactment, the Accountant-General may

    (a) “pay all fixed claims on the Government in respect of salaries, services, pensions and allowances on such day after the eighteenth day of the month for which those fixed claims are due as he may determine.”

    All I can say is that this is another: “wait-and-see.”

    Wait and see if the government gets money between now and Monday, so that it can pay salaries.

    In short, David Thompson is a Prime Minister without a “plan.”

    His vision for Barbados in an economic crisis, which he triggered, is: “wait-and-see.”

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