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The recently constructed Boardwalk on the South coast which stretches from Accra Beach for about half mile towards Bridgetown has been well received by locals and tourists alike. This week it was reported in the news that the Segway Scooters donated to the Royal Barbados Police Force have been withdrawn from patrolling the Boardwalk. If we can read between the lines from the press report, a policeman was injured while negotiating the Boardwalk but may not have been covered adequately by insurance.

The biggest negative feedback to date about the Boardwalk has been the lack of lighting which makes strolling the Boardwalk in the late evening somewhat of a risk. We thought it was the biggest negative feedback until we viewed the video above. The Internet can be our friend but it can be our enemy.

The relevant government agency needs to get in gear and remember that if we don’t care for our own, we are a tourist country for Godsakes!

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593 responses to “Down By The Boardwalk”

  1. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    ha ha ha Anon don’t be in a rush. Do you know the name of the fella picking up the rocks?

  2. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Hinds

    Never see them people before far less know their names. I don’t move in those circles! I’ll stay tuned.

  3. 199 Avatar
    199

    You are way out of line, don’t test us this bright Sunday morn!

    *****************

    David, that’s my sincerely held view. I can only assume u have n’t experienced the racism of living in a white country and thus find it difficult to understand the point I’m making! In which case, u don’t know how lucky u are!

    ************

    And @199 with your post @ 7:50 am you are proving that you are truly an ‘intellectual goliath.’

    ******************

    Hopi, u laughing at me, ent yuh!!

    Lord!!

    **************

    Ok, Adrian, I’ve got u!! However, as you’ll know, my experience has been of the British as a consequence of which, if I had my way, I would n’t let a single one of them into Bim, to retire!! However, they need n’t worry as it’s their good fortune that, sadly, I’ll never become PM of Bim, to my huge chagrin!

  4. The People's Democratic Congress Avatar
    The People’s Democratic Congress

    Rumplestilskin,

    But, why did you laugh,Rumplestilskin, if you were really laughing?

    We ask this question, because we are NOT sure why you laughed.

    But, what you must NEVER laugh at is the fact that the claimed BDS $ 18 million dollars in that project involved the then BLP Government and now this DLP Government having to steal from the people via TAXATION to put money into this structure.

    There is NO MORE shocking, wicked and evil a manner than to do so. This is a very serious matter.

    That is why we the majority of people must eventually also kick both the DLP and BLP out of the parliament of this country.

    PDC

  5. 199 Avatar
    199

    This is the gem I hope to find the next time I walk down The Boardwalk!

    http://www.nationnews.com/news/local/Default-livvi-franc-FRONT-PAGE-LEAD

  6. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    If this piece is supposedly about a $18m boardwalk, why allot so much time to ‘whitey’ supposedly cleaning up some ‘mess’…which actually has more right to be there than the boardwalk…, and then call some of us ‘haters’ for seeing the obvious.

    Why don’t whitey go and clean up all their nuclear and other toxic pollution/destruction that they are pouring into the oceans of Mother Al-kebulan? Look at the pollution & destruction that they have left in Iraq and Afghanistan, Pakistan and all over South America.

    And to that other long-winded, long-whiskered billygoat/s who stated the foll…..”Well, certainly, any other issues that are being discussed on here are really tangential or irrelevant to the discussion concerning this boardwalk!
    What kind of leader do you really want to be?

  7. 199 Avatar
    199

    The way they’re tending it, you’d think it was ‘a little piece of England in Bim’, would n’t u!!

  8. Rumplestilskin Avatar
    Rumplestilskin

    PDC,

    Fair enough, point taken.

    Hindsey,

    I tried to make out what was said, but could not. Does it matter anyway, my point is maintenance of Gov’t properties.

    Enjoy your day,

    I gone again, wont be back today.

  9. Thinking Avatar
    Thinking

    “The relevant government agency needs to get in gear and remember that if we don’t care for our own, we are a tourist country for Godsakes!”

    —————————

    **Apologies if this comment shows up twice. Not sure if it went through the 1st time.**

    I hope that the author of the above (David, was it you?) did not mean to imply that the only reason why we should care, is for the tourists and because we are a ‘tourist country.’

    So, if we were an ‘oil country’ or ‘mining country’, would that make it okay to not care about our natural and built environment?

    What happened to when we were told, if you can’t do it in your house, don’t do it in other places (‘do it’ as in making a mess, dirtying up, NOT as in having sex, LOL).

    This country is for Barbadians (I’m not going to discuss colour), therefore, the responsibility lies with us to keep it ship shape not only for the enjoyment of others, but for ourselves first and foremost.

    Thinking.

    (p.s., I’m sure the author did not mean to imply that we look after our own purely for the sake of tourists, but, it still makes you think, doesn’t it?)

  10. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    People in Barbados love to complain:. They complain about the Sun; the Rain; ZRs; Transport Board; Crop Over; the Highway; Cost of Living; Immigration; Agriculture;Tourists; Eleven plus ad infinitum. During the past week a woman was so happy at her son’s results in the eleven plus exam that she promptly complained that the book he received as a prize was inadequate.

    Perhaps the folks who commissioned the video have an interest in environmental issues and that is their focus. Everyone is free to focus on his or her area of concern whether it is the Hospital; ABC Highway; Dilapidated schools or run down Police Stations and make and post their own critical video.

    The larger point is now that the boardwalk has been constructed do we say well it shouldn’t have been built in the first place? The 18 million is taxpayer’s money and is long gone; many disagree with certain aspects of the ABC Highway and Kensington Oval should we overlook maintenance because some things are not to our liking?

    Its time that we overlook who did what and focus on what needs to be done otherwise we will be running fast while standing in the same location.

  11. David Avatar
    David

    @Thinking

    keep it real are or are we not a country reliant on the tourist dollar to keep our economy going?

    Let’s be pragmatic!

  12. Thinking Avatar
    Thinking

    @David

    I’m all for keeping it real. I too realize the importance of keeping the island clean (so to speak), so as to attract visitors and by extension their tourist dollars. After all, I personally wouldn’t enjoy visiting a country, especially one that bills itself as a tourist destination, that was untidy and dirty.

    However, I do not think we should be doing it solely to please visitors to the island. This is our home. We should treat it with respect. By doing so, if visitors to the island enjoy their stay, then all the more better. But they should not be the main impetus behind keeping our island clean.

    Thinking.

  13. Thinking Avatar
    Thinking

    @David

    **Is it me, or is anyone else having trouble with the comments?**

    I’m all for keeping it real. I too realize the importance of keeping the island clean (so to speak), so as to attract visitors and by extension their tourist dollars. After all, I personally wouldn’t enjoy visiting a country, especially one that bills itself as a tourist destination, that was untidy and dirty.

    However, I do not think we should be doing it solely to please visitors to the island. This is our home. We should treat it with respect. By doing so, if visitors to the island enjoy their stay, then all the more better. But they should not be the main impetus behind keeping our island clean.

    Thinking.

  14. Avatar
    Anonymous

    I find it remarkable the amount of discussion devoted here to the colour of the people cleaning up the boardwalk and not the fact that the maintenance was poor in the first place.

    I would contend that race has become a red herring to deflect from poor government policy and administration yet again. It was that way when Liz used it against Richard Goddard and it is that way again.

    As to the boardwalk being built by the sea, any competent civil engineer would be able to tell you how to design sea defences to with stand the ocean. NO it will not stop a storm surge from coming over but it will protect the buildings on the coast from the day to day erosion by wave action.

    The accretion of sand on the sea side of the boardwalk means that at some point we MAY be able to look forward to having a beach there. Interestingly if such a beach were to occur the boardwalk would solve the ever thorny problem of beach access for Bajans.

    Don Blackman used race in 1986-91 to deflect attention away from siting squatters in a Zone 1 area, Liz Thompson used it to deflect attention from the Government siting a landfill in an area prone to landslides, on this thread we are seeing it use YET AGAIN to deflect attention from inept Government administration but still the discussion has successfully been steered away from why isn’t the Government (NCC) doing its job.

    When will we ever learn.

  15. Diggit Avatar
    Diggit

    Have to agree with you there, Pat (Sargeant/PiedPiper et al …). And imagine how my eyes bug out as I sat on the said same boardwalk this morning reading … guess what? Your letter in the Advocate!

  16. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    livinginbarbados

    “THE two-thirds of Jamaica’s labour force who are “functionally illiterate” is partly to blame for the country’s dismal growth rate, according to the World Bank.

    “Besides the one third of potential workers who remain outside of the labour force and are not even looking for jobs; a little over two thirds of those who are in the labour force are functionally illiterate in the sense that they have never taken a test in their lives, not even at the grade nine level,” World Bank special representative, Badrul Haque, said last Tuesday during a specially arranged sitting of Parliament at Gordon House in Kingston.
    “So you begin to see a reason why countries like Lebanon, despite very high debt, can grow very rapidly and Jamaica has difficulty,” he said, pointing to estimates from the Planning Institute of Jamaica which show that labour productivity in the last 35 years have been declining by 1.5 per cent annually. In addition to that, the country’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth rate has stood at just about 0.8 per cent annually over the last 35 years.”

    I would like you to explain this to me. Taken from the Observer newspaper in Jamaica.

  17. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    Diggit

    Pat is a new one…. Guess I’ll have to read the Advocate to find out what I wrote

  18. John Avatar
    John

    … and did you know that Integrity Legislation was ko’d back in the 60’s or 70’s because Bob Bryden was a white man!!!

    …. at least if you go by what Patsy Springer had to say in Parliament this could could be a conclusion.

    It is recorded in Hansard.

    Sanka Price wrote an article on the 30 odd years that ITAL has been talked about in Parliament …… masterpiece.

    Amazing how the race talk was used to scuttle it in the beginning.

    The point I am making about the use of the race talk to divide and sidetrack is that it was inculcated in us by our leaders at a time when we held them in awe.

    The tactic is more likely to be used by people who grew up in the early Independence era because thay came and found our leaders doing it, and then, our leaders were gods!!

    No doubt Liz like many of us from the period learnt the tactic too.

  19. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Sorry to be offtopic

    ….but I must support Hartley Henry again.

    The following is a piece from the Observer newspaper in Jamaica.

    “A few years ago on Penn & Teller’s highly rated, excellent TV show which airs on Showtime, ‘Bulls..t,’ there was an episode where the hosts conspired with a restaurant operator to serve upscale patrons ‘expensive’ bottled water. It is accepted that, “the stated aim of ‘Bulls..t’ is to apply critical thinking to misconceptions, and as is indicated by the show’s title, the programme adheres to Penn & Teller’s characteristically blunt, aggressive presentation.”
    At the front of the finely decked-out California restaurant the bottles of water, ostensibly manufactured in France, Switzerland and other ‘exotic’ places where only the finest spring water is produced, were well-dressed patrons who regularly dined at top-class restaurants. These were people who made it a habit to nosh on foie gras, beluga caviar, brutally expensive game poultry and the best wines.
    Silverware and crystal flutes of bubbly were as common to the diners as plastic cups of lemonade are to a poor Jamaican family. The waiter approached them and told them that the restaurant had just received a new consignment of the finest bottled water in the world. It was prearranged that the small bottles would have exotic, false labels. As ‘expensive’ as the range of water was, he wanted them to taste and give him their rating.
    For about 10 minutes they tasted water labelled L’eau Du Robinet, Mt Fugi and others. And they positively oozed praise as the waiter told them about the supposed qualities of the water. Imagine their surprise when they were taken around the back of the restaurant to see the source of the ‘bottled’ water. A pipe and a garden hose!”

    We have the same bunch of Idiots here in Barbados.

  20. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    Diggit

    Oh its Patrick Porter , guess I forget whom I am supposed to be

  21. Jack Bowman Avatar
    Jack Bowman

    This is confusing.

    At 2: 58 pm on Sunday, Anonymous said this:

    “I find it remarkable the amount of discussion devoted here to the colour of the people cleaning up the boardwalk … race has become a red herring to deflect from poor government policy and administration.”

    Is that the same Anonymous who said these things on the same thread at various points during Sunday:

    “Wouldn’t it solve all of Barbados’ problems if all the white and “whitish” people just up and leave …”

    “Kyffin Simpson bought a million acres of land in Guyana … All the white and whitish Bajans can relocate there and build their paradise (if they can) and leave beautiful Barbados to Black people to finally enjoy …”

    “What wrong with being racist?! …”

    If these are two separate individuals, perhaps the one who isn’t a racist numbskull should consider changing his/her name.

  22. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    Well isn’t so funny how @ 4:15pm, some people just ain’t got nuttin, nada to say!

    And yes, when will we ever learn to UNLEARN the lies, deceit and false teachings that has been forced upon us. When will we learn to do things our way and stop following ‘whitey.’ When will we ever learn to UNLEARN?

  23. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant
    “People in Barbados love to complain…Its time that we overlook who did what and focus on what needs to be done otherwise we will be running fast while standing in the same location”

    [If I agree with you will I become the whipping boy for having uttered this almost self-evident truth? I read this thread during the quiet passages during the baseball, and it was amazing how quickly the discussion got derailed. Therein lies something deep, at least amongst some of those who play in this ‘sand pit’. I will fill my head with the supposedly wholesome philosophy of the Founding Fathers who spoiled tea time for the British.]

  24. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Carson C. Cadogan
    “I would like you to explain this to me.” [You clearly cite the author of the World Bank report from which you extract, so why not be direct and pose your questions to Dr. Haque, whose contact details are readily obtained from the World Bank’s website?]

  25. Avatar
    Anonymous

    @Jack Bowman…..

    I think you will find that those are other people who chose not to fill in the name field on the comment.

    It might be two or three people.

    I think you will be able to tell I’m not a racist numbskull by my comment 🙂
    So I’ll remain anonymous for the moment.

  26. The People's Democratic Congress Avatar
    The People’s Democratic Congress

    Here are some things that a future PDC Government will do in this country:

    1) Abolish Taxation;

    2) Abolish Interest Rates;

    3) Abolish All Exchange Rate Parities with the Barbados Dollar;

    4) Abolish Motor Vehicle Insurance;

    5) Seriously Reform the Hire Purchase Regime in this country;

    6) Make Institutional Loans for Productive Purposes Non-Repayable;

    7) Make sure that Imports of Goods and Services are Zero-“priced” at ALL points of entry;

    8) Make that Exports of Goods and Services – once destined for the external market – are paid for in Local currency/”prices”;

    9) The disabusing of the notion of measuring for Inflation – but, the making sure that as much money/value as possible – in any given year – goes in the productive and distributive systems of Barbados;

    10) The establishing of a system whereby present-day workers, supervisors, managers and owners of business enterprises in Barbados shall become PART-OWNERS of all multi-member corporate business entities in this country – a similar situation shall also obtain with regard to present day workers, supervisors, managers and party political functionaries of the state – whereby they shall be part-owners of a new management entity that shall be charged with the managing of the business of the state and the people of Barbados;

    11) The making sure that there is a drastic reduction in the overall size and scope of the government, and that alternatively the private sector is given greater space and incentives to produce and export much more, and, yes, more efficiently in the country;

    12) The institution of a modern and efficient regime of rent control in this country;

    13) The institution of a national land “ownership” regime whereby NO foreigners or foreign entities will be capable of owning our lands – ONLY Barbadians and Barbadian entities shall be capable of doing so and capable of passing over such rights to Barbadian people and entities ONLY. Foreigners and foreign owned entities shall however be capable of leasing rights over the land on a relatively short term basis;

    14) The removal of the first past the post electoral system, and its replacement with a variant of the proportional representational system;

    15) The removal of the Queen as Head of State of Barbados – and the installing of an Elected Executive Head of State – whom shall be part of a Cabinet that is elected by “the people” based on that said proportional representational system. This Cabinet shall itself be composed of party membership, non-party political membership, and independent political membership;

    16) The establishment of a legislative system whereby constituents shall debate and pass the laws of this country;

    17) The establishment of a system whereby Judges of the High Court and of the Court of Appeal, and some other senior people in the government – like the top law enforcement official – shall be nationally elected to their respective positions in this country based on the said proportional representational system. These judges and these relevant other senior people shall in this way and other ways be made more accountable to the people;

    18) The building of a modern, cost and fuel efficient railway system for Barbados which shall run back and forth on the existing ABC and Ronald Mapp Highways;

    19) The breaking of the monopoly that the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation has in local television broadcasting – and the facilitating of at least one locally owned television station that will cater primarily to the broadcasting of many aspects of local history, heritage, culture, entertainment, industry, etc.;

    20) The building of a modern, well equipped, and acute care hospital in the north of the country;

    21) The introduction of a system of specialized academies for the secondary school system of Barbados and which shall specialize in the teaching of and the interacting with subjects and conditions that pertain to every day living and business experiences in Barbados and elsewhere. These academies shall also incorporate and place under their jurisdiction existing secondary schools; and, finally for now,

    22) The Abolition of the Common Entrance Exam, and to take its place – A National Continuous Assessment Program.

    PDC

  27. Save Mullins Bay Avatar
    Save Mullins Bay

    If I may steer this discussion back to the beach and the boardwalk, I have an idea for the NCC and/or CZMU for what to do with all of that problematic beach sand in Hastings and/or anywhere else on Barbados. How about collecting it and using it to nourish sand-ravaged beaches on the west coast like Road View and Mullins. Sure, we are going to need far greater quantities than that thrown up around the boardwalk but those quantities will be drastically reduced when we remove the idiotic groynes hogging sand around the property of the demolished Sandridge Hotel where they are now building The Sands II – http://shar.es/CFmd – .

  28. John Avatar
    John

    …. so, we have Liz Thompson in 1994/95 expressing more or less the same sentiments as are being expressed here.

    Back Back to the year 1975.

    The BLP had in their election manifesto of 1971 promised to enact integrity legislation if elected.

    In July 1975, not long before elections, Tom Adams brought a Private Member’s Bill calling for Integrity Legislation.

    His resolution was seconded by Lionel Craig.

    An acrimonious debate followed.

    Debate was adjourned and when consideration of the resolution resumed on December 2 1975, J.B. “Patsy” Springer “saw a racial motive behid the call and questioned whether this issue would have been raised if white people were in power.”

    He had this to say on the floor of the house.

    “Can you countenance anybody asking A.S. Bryden – he held office in the vestry – or who was so mad as to write in the newspaper asking him to declare his assets?”

    He went on:

    “They have lost political power and they are asking every black man who is holding office , so long as he can change a car three times a year, walk about looking clean and carrying a cheque book to declare his assets”.

    “Whenever black people are put in authority all types of derogatory remarks are used against them purely because the people from whom they took power have not yet accepted that they are capable of governing.”

    … and he went on …” The regrettable thing about it is that there are some black people in the community who will not defend any mistake a black man makes, but they will find an excuse for one made by a white man”.

    Another MP, this time DLP, same sentiments!!

    The article does not indicate whether any of the the other MP’s took exception to these comments and what they said.

    I suspect they said nothing.

    It is uncanny how such sentiments expressed in 1975, crop up 20 years later in 1994/95 and then 35 years later are expressed by normal citizens of Barbados.

    Source: Sanka Price: “All Talk on Integrity Law …. Heated House Debates over 35 years”.

    Sunday Sun April 30 2006.

    ….. and he is quoting Hansard!!

  29. John Avatar
    John

    Sorry SMB, I found the article and wanted to quote from it to show how our leaders have shaped how we think.

    The issue has alot to do with leadership and what leadership will accept, and obviously at the time leadership accepted the tirade in parliament.

    Not much hope for us unless we hold them, and ourselves, accountable for doing the right thing …. and saying the right thing.

    What we say often is an indicator of how we will act under pressure, …. although it is usually said “Actions speak louder than words”.

  30. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    John we need ITAL no question about it. It is also true that some WHITE BAJANS BELIEVE THAT BLACK PEOPLE CANNOT MANAGE A THING. EQUALLY TRUE IS THE CURRENT ACTIVITY OF SOME WHITE BAJANS TO DISCREDIT BARBADOS INTERNATIONALY IN SUCH AWAY THAT ALL LOOK BAD EXCEPT THEMSELVES. The Youtube video that started this thread is yet another in several such attempts.

    It’s not uncanny if todays observations are relevant to todays attitudes that have not change much in 20 years.

  31. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    John // July 13, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Sorry SMB, I found the article and wanted to quote from it to show how our leaders have shaped how we think.
    ————————————————–

    Our leaders don’t only stop at politico’s. They include the church leaders, and prominent business people,…..lots of whites, Indians, and Blacks. But i disagree that our leaders are responsible for my current views on SOME white bajans. What is responsible is their actions and words. You cannot make your point, make it true while shying away from the counter points i put up. Like the rest of us so too shall they be known by their deeds.

  32. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    [quote]The regrettable thing about it is that there are some black people in the community who will not defend any mistake a black man makes, but they will find an excuse for one made by a white man”. [/quote]

    I DON’T KNOW YOU. but 20 years later

    The responses in defense of the Goodridges makes this still very true. On BFP, BU, and the Barbados Forum those words spoken some 20 years ago rang true, and you were one of many front and center with a plethora of excuses.
    The Goodridge racially tinged beating case demonstrated yet again the general distrust SOME white bajans have for blacks. In the face of overwhelming evidence against the actions of Mark Goodridge, and on realizing the planned lies were not going to work, the focus of some whites moved to suggesting that to talk about it will INFLAME racial tensions, and destroy Barbados. Now, after that case has been bought out, they are back to what they are good at, and what they truly believe.

  33. John Avatar
    John

    Adrian Hinds // July 13, 2009 at 8:27 am

    John we need ITAL no question about it. It is also true that some WHITE BAJANS BELIEVE THAT BLACK PEOPLE CANNOT MANAGE A THING. EQUALLY TRUE IS THE CURRENT ACTIVITY OF SOME WHITE BAJANS TO DISCREDIT BARBADOS INTERNATIONALY IN SUCH AWAY THAT ALL LOOK BAD EXCEPT THEMSELVES. The Youtube video that started this thread is yet another in several such attempts.

    It’s not uncanny if todays observations are relevant to todays attitudes that have not change much in 20 years.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Agree, there are some ignorant “white” people and some ignorant “black” people ….. all of whom also qualify as ignorant people.

    But there are also a whole set of people who can offset that ignorance and who must not keep quiet.

    I don’t know what the motives are behind the video but I am prepared to accept that it was an attempt to make the point that actions speak louder than words, … clearly you are not so inclined.

  34. Livinginbarbados Avatar
    Livinginbarbados

    To those who say that the video is an attempt by white people (some Bajans) to discredit black Bajans, and make themselves look good. Take the simple solution, which those white allegedly did. Take a video camera, and a crew of black people down to the boardwalk (or somewhere else where the image you want is appropriately positive). Film it. Post it on YouTube, then send David the link to post on BU. That way, the world will get at least one counter view. Ideally, the black film crew would see the same scenes as the white crew did (though I hear that it is now clear), or wait until a similar seaswell occurs and do their counter film.

    If you believe that ‘the man’ is running you down, why lie there and be run over?

    I look forward to seeing the output when I return to Bim later in the week.

  35. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    The Video says “On July 6 friends of the Hastings Rocks Committee organized SOME FRIENDS……”

    Do these people not have any black FRIENDS ? Or they do, but did not ask any of them? Maybe they did ask and were turn down?

  36. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Livinginbarbados // July 13, 2009 at 9:05 am

    To those who say that the video is an attempt by white people (some Bajans) to discredit black Bajans, and make themselves look good.
    ————————————————-

    Show me the quote where someone explicitly says that.

    @John
    The truth is more likely to be that you DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE INTENT, For you have demonstrated on several occasions a willingness to be quiet and to speak out on things and in a manner that displays a deliberate consistency.

  37. John Avatar
    John

    Adrian

    I think I recognise one member of the group and I know his family is of mixed ethnic origins.

    I do not know him well enough to comment on how he thinks but I do know the black/white issue dissolves into shades of grey.

  38. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    ha ha ha shades of Grey. Alright John. We are back to where we left this the last time. We know from the new script who the new racist and xenophobes are, and they are not white. The truth who conciders themselve white in the Bajan context may not be so concidered elsewhere, but this doe not necessarily change their views and attitudes.

    @LIB:
    The answer is Adrian. I had intended for you to be specific. lol!

  39. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    I’ll be back after the audio from the video has been editied to retain only voice comments. I believe a questionable comment was made by one of the boardwalk groupies. If I can get the audio clear enough I will present it to either clear the individual or to give John an opportunity to do what he does best. lol! I gine back to the immigration issue as this bores me, yet somehow I think the two might be related. lol!

  40. Livinginbarbados Avatar
    Livinginbarbados

    @John
    Everything could dissolve into shades of gray, but some would rather try to put them as ‘black’ and ‘white’. It’s a neat device, because then complaining about race can take the place of dealing with any or many issues. Surely, all that needs to be addressed (and SMB, who have a real concern, clearly do that) is whether the sort of problem shown exists. If it does, who can be brought to book to help address it. It the public agency charged to do it will not/cannot, then see if some volunteers (of any hue) can be encouraged to deal with the problems, once/several times.

    Instead of reading this is what we will do, I read “do-be-do-be-do”. Whistling in the wind is a great pastime.

    I know that there are blacks in Bim (not all Bajans, mind you) who have major environmental interests and do a lot to keep the filth and trash and dereliction at bay. Again, they are not invisible or mysterious folk.

  41. John Avatar
    John

    Adrian

    You were one of the apologist that tried everything to diminish the racist actions of Goodridge and his son against little boy up in Highgate gardens.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I figure the “little boy” is lucky he is not dead.

    At school everybody knew that to insult a boy’s mother was a flogging offence.

    Some boys may not mind or they choose to do nothing but the reason I think the unconditional flogging was imposed, besides being for a pretty heinous act, was because other boys, weak or strong, would naturally seek to defend their mother and do so by whatever means necessary.

    The results in a controlled environment could be unpredictable perhaps even catastrophic.

    The circumstances at Highgate as I understood/understand them were that son and grandson received a call from a distraught mother/grandmother in the middle of the night about an intruder trying to break in.

    The police were also called.

    The son/grandson arrived first.

    The “little boy” pulled a weapon on the grandson, … the son of the son.

    The son had a gun which he discharged a warning shot.

    Had the police arrived first, the whole issue of “little boy”, son/grandson would have been a moot one because the “little boy” would be dead.

    Any position I took then and take now was based on what I understood to have been the case.

    I did not then nor do I now see any racist overtones, …. for which I make no apology.

    …. and I understand that the “little boy” is no “little boy”!!

  42. John Avatar
    John

    …. I saw Seth in at Carter’s Saturday morning, or at least it looked like him.

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    Adrian Hinds

    Livinginbarbados // July 13, 2009 at 9:33 am

    @John
    Everything could dissolve into shades of gray, but some would rather try to put them as ‘black’ and ‘white’. It’s a neat device, because then complaining about race can take the place of dealing with any or many issues. Surely, all that needs to be addressed (and SMB, who have a real concern, clearly do that) is whether the sort of problem shown exists. If it does, who can be brought to book to help address it. It the public agency charged to do it will not/cannot, then see if some volunteers (of any hue) can be encouraged to deal with the problems, once/several times.
    ————————————————

    Were you not reminded of this when you penned your response to Richard Hoad a couple weeks ago? Wuh I never thought you had realize the pigmenation of your skin until you made mention of it then.

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    Brer Fox

    @199
    “However, as you’ll know, my experience has been of the British as a consequence of which, if I had my way, I would n’t let a single one of them into Bim, to retire!!”
    *******
    I have been following your comments on several threads. What a vocabulary you have! It seems that you have had a torrid time at the hands or feet or otherwise of those not so chummy Brits. Do share.]

    “However, they need n’t worry as it’s their good fortune that, sadly, I’ll never become PM of Bim, to my huge chagrin!”
    *******
    But, are you thinking of getting some revenge on the British by running for Parliament there? It would be a shame if the world did not get a chance to sample your insights. Why not run for office in Bimshire, though?

  45. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    John I am not surprise that you would get first hand info (white boy’s version) and use it as the gospel truth. lol!

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    Adrian Hinds

    John // July 13, 2009 at 9:36 am

    …. I saw Seth in at Carter’s Saturday morning, or at least it looked like him.
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    Indeed John. Seth lied back then, look where you have seen him recently.

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    Anonymous

    Stand your ground Adrian Hinds. No progress can be made until these white and whitish people leave this island. Simpsonia awaits them where they can show their pioneer spirit and build a new country complete to their liking. We will celebrate you as a true champion of Black Barbados.

  48. Livinginbarbados Avatar
    Livinginbarbados

    @AH
    “Were you not reminded of this when you penned your response to Richard Hoad a couple weeks ago? Wuh I never thought you had realize the pigmenation of your skin until you made mention of it then.”

    Hoad’s argument was predicated on a racial division of economic and political power, therefore race/ethnicity was at the core of his arguments, not incidental.

    As I said before, there is a lot of confusion. I know the colour of my skin, and the varied hues of my children and extended family, but we make light (bad pun?) of that by focusing on what kinds of people we really are. We do not use our blackness as a cructh on which to lean or a stick with which to beat. A fool is a fool and a good person is a good person. Little or no prejudgement. You do me bad, and no matter what your colour or ethnicity you are a marked person in my eyes. You do me good, and I respect you and your views more.

    Like 199, I lived a long time in the UK and I have been subjected to racism (not much, but some), but also in situations where it could not have made any blessed difference. I was junior, then I became the division head, then the department head, etc. I am black. My staff were always white and all but me in middle management were white. I work with my brain as my best weapon, little else. (Save when I play football, when my feet do the talking :-))

    Off to view the Customs House…

  49. X Avatar
    X

    It is a sad state of affairs on this island when the selfless and caring act of a few concerned citizens is viewed with such contempt. These people are only trying to care a social asset that is clearly valued by so many people yet is being neglected by those is charge of its maintenance.

    I am ashamed by your racist vitriol and only hope that this is not as commmon a feeling amongst black Barbadians as might be suggested on this blog.

  50. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Anonymous // July 13, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Stand your ground Adrian Hinds. No progress can be made until these white and whitish people leave this island. Simpsonia awaits them where they can show their pioneer spirit and build a new country complete to their liking. We will celebrate you as a true champion of Black Barbados.
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    Anon my ground is not the same as yours. It matters little to me who or what colour of people come in or leaves Bimshire for whatever reasons. This is for wunnuh who remain to deal with. I am simply calling things as they are to me.
    In 1993 when I told Richard Williams the General Manager of Sandy Lane Hotel that I was leaving to reside in Boston US, he attempted to talk me out of it, …he related that racism was a big problem in the US, to which I responded, that classism, elitism, and racism in Barbados would have prepared me well. It has. I seek not to be anyone’s champion, get up off your backside, risk being labeled as xenophobic, racist etc and speak the truth, for your own sakes. Othewise the Johns of Barbados aided and abetted by the LIB’S of Jamaica will continue to bamboozle you and your kind into perpetual submission to whomsoever they intend.

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