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Peter Wickham
Peter Wickham
I can’t speak for Norman Faria, but I am inclined to believe that there is evidence of racial discrimination against Afros there [Guyana] at present, in the same way there was evidence of racial discrimination against Indos there during the Burnham – PNC era – Peter W Wickham April 12, 2009 at 6.25pm

The BU family can succinctly address your core argument.  You agree that there is evidence of discrimination “now” in Guyana against Afro Guyanese, which is exactly what Dr. Kean Gibson said, that there might have been discrimination against Indos during the Burnham-PNC era does not negate this “present truth”.

Permit me to quote you again: My thesis is not that there is no discrimination, but that discrimination is not caused by the mere presence of large numbers of Indos and moreover that Indos are not genetically or culturally inclined to discriminate because of their Hindu beliefs.

There are two core elements to your thesis:

(a) Genetics (b) Culture/Hindu beliefs.

(a) Very few of the BU family will argue that this issue is about Indians being genetically inclined to discriminate against Africans.( I certainly will not)

(b) I will now address “Hindu beliefs”/Culture

If we take culture to mean:  the set of shared attitudes, values, goals and practices that characterizes an institution, organization or group (Wikipedia)

The above leads me to what “underpins” the concerns of Afro Barbadians.

The modern caste system is an extension of the ancient Vamashrama tradition.  The caste system recognizes many more social groupings not mentioned in Hindu scriptures and only theoretically accepts the necessity of following prescribed duties.  Caste has become a highly contentious issue in Indian politics and academic scholarship on the subject has often been critical of its Vamashrama origins.  Traditional Hindus however do not regard Vamashrama as merely an hereditary pass to enjoy social standing.

Rather, they consider it to be natural and integral to daily life, existing to maintaining an harmonious and functional society based on spiritual ideals. (Wikipedia)

Mr. Wickham it is because of this belief system which they – Hindus – consider “natural ” and integral to daily life which is based on a “spiritual ideal” and which Afro Barbadians can “never” be a part of which is causing legitimate concerns to Afro Barbadians.

This fundamental fact will not go away…and no amount of clever articulation will make this “truth” a lie.  We are concerned because of learned behaviour which is part of their belief system, which is also linked to their spiritual ideals, which causes them to see Afro Barbadians and other Afros in general the way they do…because caste kicks into the equation.

Limited legal numbers yes, in overwhelming numbers no, unless you are prepared to destroy social cohesion in Barbados.

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  1. David Avatar
    David

    On behalf of the BU household we welcome you back Yardbroom. Your wise counsel has been missed!

  2. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    I concur 100%
    Welcome back Yardbroom!

  3. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Yardbroom,yardbroom,yardbroom,

    I missed you!

    Now if I can only hear from Bushtea I will then be almost willing to say :’Now lord,let your servant depart in peace’ – at least if only for a good night’s rest thereupon to be awakened afresh in the morning to do battle once more with my desires and cravings.

    Bush tea,what sayest thou?

  4. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @Anonymous,
    Bush Tea has been following good advice….
    It is much better to remain silent and be thought wise, than to speak out and expose one’s folly..

    In any case, any points that I would have wanted to make, have been well represented by a variety of the wise contributors within the BU family.

    …that said however, I remain perplexed that such prominence continues to be given to Peter Wickham and his various positions.

    This is a clear case (following in the footsteps of Sir Hillary, Mr Frank Alleyne and other ‘academics’) to make a name for oneself by taking deliberately controversial positions (in Peter’s case- nonsensical positions) as a means of gaining fame and fortune.

    These folks then get invited to functions; to give speeches; and write articles -and eventually end up as chairman of something or the other… spending millions of our tax dollars -and then showing their true colours….

    What Peter Wickham what!??

    ….look how Negroman and Scout just ‘wee wee’ all over his foot…..

  5. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Return of Bush Tea and Yardbroom together? Wow!

  6. Avatar
    Anonymous

    So Wickham good for something after all!
    Now where is Micro Mock Engineer?

  7. JC Avatar
    JC

    Welcome back the original crew!

    WELCOME!

  8. David Avatar
    David

    @Bush Tea

    Thanks for appearing, seems we have Yardbroom to thank?

    Your view about Wickham using neo-liberal and left field positions to create popularity crossed our minds. In fact we call it the Dennis Rodman approach. Then we dismissed it by thinking would anyone go to such an extreme? We also wondered at his fixation with Dr. Gibson’s RESEARCHED positions and wondered if there is a chip on shoulder given his own failure to complete a doctorate.

    What ever his reasons maybe BU along with BU family members will continue to challenge his hypotheses if we deem them as foolish. Bush Tea we are only following your approach, you Sire have submitted blogs on Sri Hillary and said Peter Wickham. Ultimately Wickham’s approach to grow his persona by taking controversial positions will be transient in the eyes of history anyway. Doesn’t he care about his legacy?

    We should say as well that Bush Tea and Yardbroom improved the content of BU when they took a decision to submit blogs early in the pieace. They did it at a time when BU was at the experimental stage. We consider them cornerstones of the BU foundation!

  9. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    …I really thought that you folks would be glad to have been rid of the Bushman… actually welcoming me back?!?

    …..methinks that this is a mistake. Far better to let sleeping bushmen lie….I may be tempted to burst some bubbles with Bush Tea’s take on our prospects for the immediate future.

    …far more palatable for the BU family to project economic recovery, and plan for everything returning to the way it was in the ‘good old days’.

    …or to enjoy distractions like Peter Wickham and pacifist CH’s escapades.. than to face the grim reality of the soon coming time of troubles…

  10. David Avatar
    David

    @BT

    Your popularity (BU’s opinion just like Wickham’s) in the blogosphere suggests that you have a following. So what do you do? Give up the ghost or soldier on?

  11. Avatar
    Anonymous

    David

    I am going to take my full credit for seeing bushtea and yardbroom back on with the family,and I am enjoying it to the max.

    I in an earlier post asked to hear from yardbroom and bushtea,yardbroom posted and again I asked for bustea and he responded.

    I am fully sated my crew’s back!

  12. Avatar
    Anonymous

    *sated* – should be satiated

  13. David Avatar
    David

    Now that we are fully euphoriated at the return of the two rustled from deep hibernation maybe we can get analyse what Yardbroom has left with us?

  14. de gap Avatar
    de gap

    “There is no institutional discrimination against Black Guyanese in Guyana, but should there be?”

    The black Guyanese should be thankful that Dr. Jagan had the political will, insight, and decency to take the path of reconciliation and not vengeance. If it was left to lesser men, there would be no black Guyanese left in Guyana. Black Guyanese maintain their supremacy in the armed forces and civil service, black narco-thugs are massacring coolie villages with impunity, so what are these neanderthals whining about?

    As for Bim, the problem we have is with the East Indian/Pakistani coolies, not the Guyanese. Now those people are cause for great concern. You can’t trust anybody who doesn’t speak English.

  15. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Bush Tea’s analysis of peter wickham’s posturing is true for the most part.

    Equally so his comparison of his action to that of Hilary Beckles and Frank Alleyne.

    Whenever I see hilary beckles on T.V. or on print I could hardly turn the page or the t.v. fast enough to get rid of him.

    This 15 minutes of fame syndrome as a result of 5 minutes of repeated outrageous behaviour is a direct product of american t.v. which beams this behaviour every day – 24 hours a day into our homes.

    So you watch C.N.N and MSNBC and Fox etc and who do you see?

    Those persons who know very little of what they speak,but are strenously ponitificating with outrageously,unsubstantiated comments on topics which they have no – or very little – expertise on.

    They then develop a high profile and are repeatedly called back to guest appear on these cable networks and eventually get top positions in the government administration because their name has been in the public’s eye for so long that persons close to the goverment feel that they know them – and therefore having been in the News for so long,they must know what they are talking about.

    Hence large top dollar consultancies.

    Check Dennis Jones from Living in Barbados Blog who recently is always on VOB and the ‘renowned’ – little known Prof. Avinash Pesaud.

    It has always been my belief that hilary beckles having learnt that lesson during his soujourn away saw the ideal enviroment in a sleepy,little quaint,conservative island like barbados where he could perfect the art of ‘double-speak,or ‘bull-shitting’.

    People fell for his jobby,and here we are today, with him now a full fledged knight,a Principal of a University,being given million of dollars to squander and hire his political rejects – and in the end produce nothing of tangible value to this country which needs every cent of its hard earned dollars.

    So maybe there is a lot there for peter wickham to admire and emulate.

  16. Ruel Daniels Avatar
    Ruel Daniels

    It is absolute nonsensical to posit that Indians do not discriminate against Africans because of their religious beliefs, and then use ones interpretation of sections of those beliefs as coroborative evidence of your position. In fact it is patently sophomoric. And for these reasons.

    Regardless of what a scripture or a doctrine says, it is the subjective interpretation of those who hold it as sacred that determine the perspective it shapes. For years Christian Organizations like Jeovah Witnesses, the Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Baptists, discriminated against people of African descent based on their reading of the biblical text. Whether they genuinely misinterpreted the context or values in their religious teachings, or they simply used the skewed comprehension to rationalize their prejudice is immaterial. The fact remains that the prejudice manifested against blacks by White Christians and Indian Hindus cannot be divorced from their connection with their religion. It is not the religion that is on trial. It is the people who use to justify and rationalize their prejudice.

  17. Ruel Daniels Avatar
    Ruel Daniels

    Here are some comments from Lincoln Lewis, a Trade Unionist who spends a lot of time in Barbados. It should be noted that Lincoln Lewis, despite the fact that he was black, was a fierce opponent of the Burnham Government, challenging it on labor and human rights issues. The opposition PPP loved him then. They hate him now because he challenges the same excesses that occurred under Burnham, that has been increased ten fold under them.
    ___________________________
    Comrades,

    Re: Racism and discrimination- real in Guyana

    I will not discriminate against any group or individual and I refuse to be silence by any group or individual as it relates to my rights. I have read both presentations from Mr. Wickham, and Faria, and in both cases they sought to disregard the stark evidence of discrimination taking place in Guyana. I have added their names to this list for them to have first my views.

    I wish to advise that I personally take serious umbrage to anyone labeling critics of the government as being PNC, or apologists of the PNC. Having fought against the PNC?s excesses, I speak from a position of moral authority to transgressions happening today under the PPP.

    The 1993 World Bank/IDB/IMF study clearly stated that the sugar and bauxite industries were un-economical and both must be privatized. It was recommended that buyers be sought for the bauxite companies, the Demerara estates in the sugar industry be closed and a buyer be sought. In bauxite where the workers were primarily Africans, the government moved with haste to terminate their employment. Refuse to engage the unions on benefits. Appointed workers committees at meetings organized by the government to speak on behalf the employees. In fact what they did was refused to speak with the recognised trade unions. After sending the workers home, they broke up the pension fund, the single largest pool of money owned by African- Guyanese. In fact no bauxite employee who has worked with the industry over the last 50 years is today entitled to a pension.

    In dealing with the sugar industry, the government is on record, clearly stating that they will not close the Demerara estates, while sugar prices continue to fall on the world market and the preferential prices within the EU. The sugar workers are primarily Indians. The PPP government gave instructions of GUYSUCO to pump millions of US dollars to sustain the sugar industry pension fund where their supporters, who are primarily Indians, can receive pension when they retire. The Skeldon Sugar Project has seen the government putting millions of U.S dollars into a state of the art factory, fully conscious of the low price for sugar on the international market. This is only one of the reasons why I deem the PPP?s policies as economic genocide against the African community.

    Crime seems to be bad when committed by Africans and good when committed by Indians. We have seen what Roger Khan has done to African Guyanese youths, and by his own admission he indicted the government that he was working for them. Hundreds of black youths were killed by Khan and today many mothers are unaware of their children?s graves. We have seem when the Minister of Local Government ran his vehicle on a man, fired shoots at him, the President said he advised the Commissioner of Police to take away the Minister?s firearm rather than let the Minister face the full brunt of the law. The recent case at the Republic Bank in Guyana when the police arrested members of staff, they were called by the Office of the President and advised to give the Indians on bail, and the Africans kept in the lock-ups.

    Kellawan Lall informed the University administration that the Critchlow Labour College was established to put Africans in the University through the back door and after that event the PPP moved to get the university to de-recognise the College?s certificate. They did not stop there, they took away the yearly state grant to the College and have given several different reasons for doing so, but we are conscious that the grant was taken away because 98% of the student population is Africans.

    It was September 12, 2008, I stood up in Guyana and accused the PPP government of murdering Africans, and on the night of September 14, their hit men were at my home.

    These are only a few cases.

    Mr. Wickham, and Faria, don’t cloud the issues of transgression with theories and thinkers. What we want to talk about is living in Guyana and not theorizing Guyana . You do not live it, so don’t try to define it for us. You are behaving just like the PPP, when people talk for their rights, you are telling us that we are racists, PNC and talking nonsense. It is you who are dishonest and talking nonsense. I have live through the PPP and experienced every time people talk about PPP transgression they are demonised by the PPP, its cohorts and agents.

    To Mr. Wickham, as a professed academic, I suggest you arm yourself with the facts before you pronounce on the Guyana situation. And to you, Faria, you have not disappointed. You lied on me in the national papers about what I said at the BWU conference. I continue to receive numerous complaints from African Guyanese in Barbados that you discriminate against them and only assist Indian- Guyanese. Faria, two years ago the Barbados/Guyanese Association was forced to put security guard at the premises of their Annual General Meeting for fear that you use your thuggery and break up their forum. You have accused the Barbados/Guyanese Association, a democratically established and run organization, as being an agent of the PNC because they refuse to carry out the dictates of your masters. It seems as though you are on a crusade to recruit credible bystanders to front your dastardly acts. To those persons, beware of Hitler’s agents.

    Faria, I have serious concerns with your use of state funds and privilege to discriminate against citizens. Whenever we meet I shall look you in the eyes and tell you of all the abominable acts you have committed with impunity in the name of the People of Guyana, of which I am a part.

    Lincoln Lewis.

  18. Avatar
    Anonymous

    My goodness,what a revelation!

    PETER WICKHAM,WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS GUYANESE TRADE UNION FIGHTER WHO HAS THE INTEGRITY AND THE SCARS TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST INDIANS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST AFRO GUYANESE IN GUYANA?

    ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO DISMISS HIM LIKE YOU HAVE DR KEAN GIBSON?

    DAVID/BU

    How do you feel now that Lincoln Lewis has revealed the evil agenda and acts committed by norman faria against afro guyanese – yet you continue to treat faria even in the face of repeated examples over time of his evil agenda- you continue to give him high prominence and credibility on this blog – under the guise of listening to hear what the other side has to say.

    WHEN IS ENOUGH – ENOUGH – DAVID?

    Haven’t you seen and heard enough from norman faria to know that he is willing to use any forum provided to him to promote his agenda and propoganda?

    So it is easy for him to cuss the bajans who object to their country being over run by the guyanese and their despicable behaviour yet use their medium to promote the very cussing.

    Yet David/BU thinks it is oh so very correct to continue to give him space to do this and actually begged faria in another post to continue to speak out and while speaking out – could he faria please conside giving us a response to our questions – and oh – faria please disregard those on BU who make negative comments against you.

    Would Jeffrey daimler or Hitler be given the same deference and privelege?

    Negroman,pay attention o.k.?

    Ruel Daniels

    Where can I see that statement from lincoln lewis,and where can I read more about this state discrimination against afro guyanese?

  19. nelly avila moreno Avatar
    nelly avila moreno

    go get em Linc

  20. David Avatar
    David

    In the highstake propaganda game currently being played out we understand too well the moves being played.

    You need to have confidence in the BU household anonymous.

  21. Avatar
    Anonymous

    David

    While your point is taken I did not take too kindly to you sucking up to faria and castigating us your faithful family members – by seeking to assuage his pride.

    Faria has been very caustic in his comments about us here on BU and on bajans displeasure at his and his compatriots behaviour in our country,so I will give him no quarter.

    Other than threats against his person I believe that he should not be shielded from our wrath.

    Your inconsistent and weak-kneed position is giving me much discomfort.

    We the citizens of barbados and contributors to this blog are not benefitting any by the regular utterances of faria and by you and the other media houses giving him such prominence.

  22. Negroman Avatar
    Negroman

    Anonymous 9.30 am
    I tend to agree with your comments.I cannot understand why David will constantly allow Norma Faria to use this blog to push his selfish,racist Indo-Guyanese agenda.I said it and will say it again Black Guyanese have no say in Guyana today and there are no outlets for Black Guyanese to express their fears & concerns.Why should a Black Barbadian blog be use to push the views of Norma Faria ? No Black Barbadian could ever go into Guyana today and state the Barbadian perspective on any issues affecting them in that failed state. I understand David & BU position but I do not support it.

    It is interested that a comparison was made between that traitor Hilary Beckles & Peter Wickham.Like a fellow blogger said I do not listen to anything coming from the mouths of Hilary Beckles.There is justification to the idea that Hilary Beckles & Peter Wickham adopted controversial issues to get into the limelight and to gain prominence.

    I had admiration for Peter Wickham on his ability to deal with political issues and his analysis of the political systems in the Caribbean.I think he does a great job in that regard,however,when he started to support & push the homosexual agenda and his nonsensical no borders open door immigration position my respect for him disappeared.

    I think Peter Wickham should be man enough to come back on this blog and admit that his position on the immigration issue and his criticism of Dr Kean Gibson were filled with inconsistencies and his analysis was flawed.Peter Wickham take your lashes like a man come and challenge us.

  23. foo Avatar
    foo

    fool does not = foolbert

    Boycott racist BU.

    Wee wee all in wunna eyes. Calling Hindus racist while all the while racist uncensored against Guyanese with best intentions and ethics (and others) for over a year.

    Shame on all wunna. Big up Peter W.

  24. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Where is Trotman,Morris of the union and dennis clarke of NUPW.

    The Union’s silence on the attempted assination of their fellow unionists lincoln lewis of Guyana speaks volumes about how much the Barbados Workers Union has sold out their members and the people of Barbados.

    It also speaks volumes as to how cowardly we are as bajan and as a result persons like norman faria and ricky singh can seek shelter and get support from the union even in the face of a fellow unionist who has worked tirelessly with the said BWU.

    I am looking for the day when we have a true,fearless leader in this country.

    Afro guyanese like Aubrey Armstrong and roxanne gibbs who are brother and sister are not using their prominence to speak out against this action against their fellow afro guyanese lincoln lewis.

    Basdeo Jagdeo is killing out all the afro guyanese who are speaking out against his atrocities of this group.

    He has killed Waddell – the radio talk show host and no investigation or charge brought.

    Roger khan killed hundreds of young afro guyanese – no investigation.

    Now they are hunting down Lincoln Lewis.

    Where is peter wickham,leroy troptman,david thompson,VOB,CBC,The Nation and others?

    And now David of BU is telling us that he is doing us a favour by promoting the garbage by Norman faria.

    I am hoping that you david would see it fit to put CGID website by rickford burke on the sidebar if it is not already there.

  25. Ruel Daniels Avatar
    Ruel Daniels

    Lincoln Lewis Views are marginalized in the pint press in Guyana because, there two Indian owned newspapers and one Portuguese owned. There no black owned radio or print media in Guyana. The PPP Government has has refused to grant licences to blacks in places like Linden to own and control newspapers and radio. In fact the President granted a licence to another Indian, and one who is his friend, to start a newspaper last year while giving the thumbs down on applications from blacks in Linden and elsewhere.

    I found Lincoln Lewis’s letter in Guymine, a Guyanese owned DB. There should be more on The Guyana Observer News. You just need to google those names.

    Look, David, I am not claiming that there are angels and devils in Guyana. But let’s examine this political history which the PPP and its mendacious sycophants propagandizes and convinces black people out of Guiyana into believeing that their kind are monsters and the other kind are angels.

    Walter Rodney was an Africanist who started an organization that vehemently opposed the Burnham Government Rodney was assassinated, allegedly by people operating on behalf of the PNC. There are people in Rodney’s organization like Tacuma Ogunseye who lost an eye in his opposition to Burnham. There are people like Eusi Kwayanna, the most respected politician ever from Guyana, and someone who knows the political history of Guyana, has been involved in it from the inception, opposed the Burnham regime and worked with the PPP when they were in opposition, but who they bhate and condemn now because he points out their abuses of power. Like Rodney, Ronald Waddell an activist for African rights in Guyana was gunned down in front of his gate, and to date the state has showed no concern, offered no rewards, to bring his killers to justice. In contrast, they offer rewards for the horrible killing of Indians like Minister Sawh. In other words, black life in Guyana is worth less than Indians. At least that is how most of us perceive it.

    The PPP are curent day versions of George Orwell’s pigs. All the things they found repulsive and undemocratic when the PNC was in power, they now embrace and use to cement their hold on total power.State Control of the media was wrong when the PNC controlled only radio stations and newpapers. Today it is ok when the PPP controll radio, television and newspaper. People in places like Linden have to listen to racist programming that come from the propaganda department of the PPP. A police officer caught on tape extorting money from a drug trafficker is promoted to a higher rank because he is Indian, but the black head of CANU is polygraphed and fired. Let them explain this.

  26. Ruel Daniels Avatar
    Ruel Daniels

    Annonymous go to the Guyana Observer News and you will see Indian comments that refer to black people with the “N” word and describes them as dogs. These are not representative of the entire Indian population, or even the majority. But these comments represent the sentiments of many Indians. One advrese comment in here about Indians coming to Barbados gets the blogger labeled as racist. Well what about those comments that one might expect find coming from a Klu Klux Klan affiliate, but comes those who are just a lighter shade of brown. I am not making it up, go and look for yourselves.

  27. Ruel Daniels Avatar
    Ruel Daniels

    People are not genetically inclined to be racist or prejudice. These are learned traits. Indians came as indentured servants to the Caribbean after emancipation, leaving behind them a caste system that relagated most of those who came to a level of permanent inferiority. The irony is that many of them after they got here and encountered Africans, projected the status they had left with unto black people, and assumed that of their previous oppressors. Look at what happened with the black cricketer from Australia when he went to India, and the black cheerleaders. Is it a coincidence that people with a common origin are expressing the same racial animus to people who are of African Descent? Is it a coincidence that some Indians in India relate to blacks the same way some Indians in the Caribbean thousands of miles away do? C’mon. How come that reciprocal is never evident when Indian and white sportsmen go to Africa or come to the West Indian Islands like Barbados and Antigua where the vast majority of people are black? These are areas people do not wish to examine because it isolates the problem, and for them, that is sacred cow.

    Racial prejudice, everywhere it has historically been used to oppress, marginalize and subjugate in this world, sprung from cultural or other beliefs that people were superior or inferior based on their physical characteristics. Even when the doctrine does not expressedly announce this, the ambiguity in concepts cause people to subjectively interpret things in a fashion that is ego enhancing for them.

    I asked an Indian Guy from Guyana once why he did not like black people. He was darker than I was. His answer was that black people were made from the feet of the Hindu Gods. Now that reference in Hindu religious mythology might have been intended to mean something vastly different from what he was taught. But it made sense to him, and the culture he grew up in was more persuasive than all the learnings and lessons he got from school and life.

  28. Avatar
    Anonymous

    I am just finished reading the posts on CGID website and now Ruel Daniel’s posts.

    Thank you Ruel for the sites.

    Reading the CGID makes it more obvious to me how gullible and stupid we are as black people and we seem to be the only race of people who offer no support or protection to our own people in our ethnic group,but we are ever so willing to ensure that the criminals and the agents of discrimination of the other races are given every opportunity to propogate and promulgate their message.

    They don’t do the same for us of course,but never mind that.

    We are only ensuring that the agents of discrimination like Faria continue to get the air to breathe.

    Thinking that we can change him,or get him to see our point of view – is wishful thinking of course.

    For people like Faria,expediency is all that matters.

    The ends are more important than the means.

    Now I am reading in CGID posts how the american lawyer of druglord and assinator Roger Khan paid money to assasinate the main witness against Khan.

    That lawyer is now charged by the FBI.

    Rickford Burke of CGID – brave man that he is – has written to the caricom prime ministers and to the U.S Administration about the Guyana’s state sponsored killing of young,afro guyanese boys and men.

    He has also written to Caricom and the CCJ asking that they be alerted that Basdeo Jagdeo is trying to put one of his agent of discrimination – a judge Carl Singh – on the CCJ – and the caribbean governments need to reject his nomination.

    He has gotten the support of N.Y. state senator Sampson who has agreed to act as an intermediary with the guyanese in the diaspora and the Jagdeo administration in these discussions and calls for equality for afro guyanese.

    If David of BU read Lincoln Lewis’ letter in that first post by Ruel Daniel he would have seen Lincoln Lewis blatantly pointing out the open discrimination practised by Norman Faria against afro guyanese who are here in Barbados.

    This accusation has been made many times openly by afro guyanese here in Barbados.

    Where is the great Guyanese statesman of Guyana – now safely ensonced in barbados – Sir Shridat Ramphal – who had a lot to say and rightly so about human rights abuses in South Africa.

    What about the human rights abuses against afro guyanese by basdeo jagdeo – shridat ramphal?

    Oops, I forget,a indian does not generally speak out against another indian – no matter how wrong he is.

    Freddie Kisoon of the Kaeiteur newspaper of course being the only notable exception.

    I will support and speak up for the afro guyanese brothers and sisters who are being discriminated against,but I am very mindful that the afro guyanese people have shown themselves even on this very blog, to be very ungrateful towrds the black bajans who offer a hand of assistance to them,and if they had to make a choice they choose the said very indian guyanese countrymen who giving them hell – over the black bajans who reached out a hand of frienship to them.

    So I am speaking out for them nonetheless, because I too believe:’that an injustice committed anywhere is an injustice committed everywhere’.

  29. Avatar
    Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS

    Oh my goodness Maria Van Beek – the Commissioner of Insurance in Guyana has been shot in the chest today by a lone gunman.

    Could be another assasination attempt.

    This lady is the person who has been working on the Clico matter.

    David Thompson,be afraid you hear,be very afraid.

  30. Negroman Avatar
    Negroman

    Ruel Daniel
    Thanks very much for your input into this debate.I am indeed happy that you have joined in this debate and substantiate the points that Scout & Your Truly have been saying on this issue.Scout & Your truly have been making the points about the horrible treatment meted out to Black Guyanese in Guyana.I have always highlighted the murders of nearly 200 black men & boys by Roger Khan Phantom Gang.I highlighted also the Police & Defence Force raids of predominantly Black Communities of Guyana such as Friendship,Buxton & Agricola and the beating & imprisonment of the Men & Boys from those Communities.I have talked about the general marginalization of the Black Guyanese in Guyana by the racist,criminal minded Bharat Jagdeo administration.
    Ruel Daniel thanks very much and please continue to enlighten us on the happening in that unfortunate country.

    When a country Minister of Justice and its Police Commissioner cannot get American Visas that tells you a lot about the state of affairs in that country.That is the case in Guyana today.Clement Rohee & Henry Green the Minister of Home Affairs & Police Commissioner respectively cannot get American Visas because of they connections to drug trafficking & human rights abuses in Guyana.I will always highlight this because I want all BU contributors to really understand the situation that confronting Black Guyanese in Guyana today.It is sad & very scary for any Black person in Guyana today.

    Scout is always indicating that we are sitting on a volcano ready to explode and we are not taking his warnings seriously.If we do not control the influx of the Indo-Guyanese scum bags & monitor the expanding local ratcatcher/mango seller Indian & Pakistani communities in Barbados we as peaceful,developing,fairly affluent society will soon experience unprecedented upheaval beyond our imagination.We do not know the terror that is about to be unleash on Black Barbados by those Indian & Pakistani human waste
    .
    Bonny Peppa my darling I have not seen any postings from you recently. I hope everything is okay with you my love.

  31. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Bonny Girl

    Yuh like yuh got a chussler in negroman.

    Yuh hear how he calls yuh – Bonny my darling.

    I hope he won’t get some warm lashes fron yuh know who.

  32. David Avatar
    David

    Stay focus people and don’t make this a David BU issue. Must comment that the info posted by ruel is scary and again makes us wonder what are the other CARICOM countries doing to put pressure on Guyana. We also want to remind anonymous et al that BU frequently post the press releases in full received from GIFD. No where in the traditional press have we seen their press releases carried.

  33. Sister Baby Avatar
    Sister Baby

    Ruel, Thanks for enlightening me. I beleive you. Ruel, you write so well, such a wonderful writer. Thank you Ruel now I understand. Thank you.

  34. Avatar
    Anonymous

    David

    I want you to re-read my post,read it in the spirit im which it is written and then ask yourself if you are not aiding those who are committing these atrocities by permitting them this license.

    You must think long and hard about the avenue you are providing to faria.

    There is no good that has come of it so far except to faria and basdeo jagdeo.

    The people at one caribbean – that is – the Nation newspaper and VOB are guaranteed to give him free space,so if your thinking is you want us to hear his extreme views – breaking news David – we will hear it from all the other media sources.

    I will repeat it again – you going even further to tell norman faria in another post, to ignore us the bloggers who are caustic in our remarks against him and to continue posting on BU – will stay with me always.

  35. David Avatar
    David

    Anonymous you are taking the comment out of context. In a nutshell we said to Faria forget the talk about some BU commenters promoting racism and address the gist of what we have been saying.

  36. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @Anonymous
    David’s position is a principled one. The best way to deal with these types is to confront them head on in public. Truth will naturally prevail.
    This is why Wickham can thrive on the call-in shows – where he can cut you off and have the last word, or just cut you off when you make telling arguments.

    Here on BU, they can’t run, and not a boy can stop Negroman, Scout or you from educating us- you can’t see how Wickham run like a fowl from the licks?

    David has therefore exposed Faria to the scrutiny of truth through BU and it is precisely because of this, that we now get to hear you and Ruel D reinforcing the N/man and Scout with sound facts.

    ….take it easy on David, he’s on the right track.!!

  37. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Bushtea

    I am hearing you my man and pondering on your wise words.

  38. Truthseeker Avatar
    Truthseeker

    Who gives a rat’s ass? Peter Wickham and the rest of those with delusions of grandeur need to focus on Barbadians and Barbados. Let the GTs oar their own canoe.

    The immigration needs a hotline so that some of these illegal Guyanese can be located and deported. They are not good for Barbados and their reputation for trickery, corruption and fraud precedes them.

  39. BAJAN BORN Avatar
    BAJAN BORN

    The permitting of the slanderous comments from Lewis against Faria’s character just serves to underscore the point of Faria calling for more regulation of blogs like these. Lewis’ problem goes back a long way , including accusing the Guyanese President of making black men beggars and women prostitutes. He has a political agenda and just pandering to fears about discimnation of poor blak people.Tha’s the only thing he and his mindset have. .
    Let’s hope Faria’s working with the auhorities will get some prosecutions re the Barabdos Underground so tha the majority decent minded and tolerant Barbadians and others will continue to have real feedom of speech respected.The prosecutions of hate speech crimes have been succesful overseas and it will be in this case. And for the xenophobes like Negroman who daily jerk off with their anti-Indian sickeness, they gon have to get some help elesehwre..

  40. Negroman Avatar
    Negroman

    I want to tell Norman Faria,Ricky Singh and the rest this Black Barbadian Negroman is not SCARE of them and will challenge them in any way or fashion.I will never be silence in Barbados.The time has long passed when Black people of this world must stand up like real men and confront challenges.Bajan Born who I believe is a nasty despicable Indo-Guyanese the thought of prosecuting me will not stop me from commenting on the atrocities that are taking place in Guyana on a daily basis against Black Guyanese.

    If falsehoods are being said about Norman Faria and his Indo-Guyanese lackeys & cohorts they should come and dispute the allegations.Tell Norman Faria to dispute what Ruel Daniel posted.Also dispute what Minette Bacchus has written in today’s Nation newspaper

    Bajan Born it is asses like you that refuse to accept the truth even though it is stark reality and there are living examples to testify to that situation..

    Bajan Born this Negroman hates Indians & Indo-Guyanese with a passion and if you want the authorities to prosecute me for my hating the rat catcher/mango seller Indians go ahead make my day yuh dumb ass.

  41. The Scout Avatar
    The Scout

    Negro man
    Just read the latest posting and let me hear your comments

  42. Dark Knight Avatar
    Dark Knight

    Should Barbados follow President Obama’s lead and make everyone in this country right now, legal.

    Not the tourists – those who are here undocumented.

  43. Can't get me pension cheque Avatar
    Can’t get me pension cheque

    Should Barbados follow President Obama’s lead and make everyone in this country right now, legal.

    Not the tourists – those who are here undocumented.

  44. Dark Knight Avatar
    Dark Knight

    Sorry about that

  45. Negroman Avatar
    Negroman

    Scout
    What posting are you referring to.

  46. The Scout Avatar
    The Scout

    Negro man
    “Summit of the Americans must focus on Guyana fsiling democracy” The lastest posting on BU blogs.

  47. Dark Knight Avatar
    Dark Knight

    Let me see if I can lift this debate.

    Are you all aware that Barbados came in for very high marks for being one of very few countries within the grouping – that has implemented all of what has been agreed to.

    Yes!!!

    Go on, congratulate Dame Billie Miller and the BLP.

    No doubt the DLP would want to claim credit for this, as was the case with the first quarter of 2008 when Barbados is said to have had it best ever toursim arrival ever.

    No, Let talk substance. Scout and WIV not you!!!

  48. David Avatar
    David

    @Norman Faria aka BAJAN BORN

    Are you trying to intimidate us?

  49. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Well,well,well

    Negroman,

    Did you read that?

    David just informed us that the post above under the handle Bajan born is really Norman Faria.

    Well,well!

    I am glad David realises what I was saying in my earlier posts with regards to Norman Faria.

    You are operating with a dangerous creature there David,it’s like trying to coax and pet a Cobra snake.

    I am glad that Faria was exposed this evening.

  50. JC Avatar
    JC

    David Sorry, I hope you dont stop my comment but I would like to tell FARIA

    F*** OFF!

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