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I refer to a letter from D. Ramprakash entitled ‘Statistics are essential in the marginalisation debate.’ Ramprakash is of course correct; it is a difficult accusation to define or to quantify and so we have to establish marginalisation another way, ie by looking at the perceptions of people, since if perceptions are not reality, they certainly point to what is reality for our people.

Source: Stabroek

racismOn January 31, 2008 we published the blog with the title Indian Racism Against Afro Guyanese In Guyana which referenced a scholarly work (Racism and the degeneration of Guyana) by Dr. Kean Gibson, a lecturer at the University of the West Indies, Cave Hill. To the surprise of the BU household the academic’s research was dismissed by individuals who offered no research of their own, but instead operated on high levels of biase and emotionalism. Leading the charge was our decorated pollster Peter Wickham, who is still drowning in the accolades from being proved correct in the just concluded Barbados general election. In response to the aforementioned blog, Peter Wickham was inspired to submit to BU his article titled, Peter Wickham Says It’s All About Racism & Xenophobia. We said then that the BU household was disappointed Peter Wickham who is a professional pollster, and whose reputation and performance is built on using solid quantitative analysis would have resorted to mere words to refute Dr. Gibson’s effort.

The quote above was extracted from a letter to the editor submitted to the Stabroek newspaper by Mr. Anthony Vieira who is a Member of Parliament in Guyana. The submission is interesting because he is able to point to quantitative analysis, prepared by a Dr. Milissa Ifill of the University of Guyana (A study to assess whether there is any discrimination in the award and distribution of economic opportunities in Guyana), under the direction of the Ethnic Relations Commission (ERC) in a report, which supports the widely held perception in Guyana that there is tension between the ethnic groups.

To borrow a quote to illustrate what we mean, Dr. Ifill states:

Indian Guyanese far more than African, mixed or indigenous Guyanese believe that the state, private sector and NGO sector act in a fair manner in their provision of economic opportunities. 80 out of 94 Indian respondents believed that the state acts in a fair manner, the corresponding figure for African respondents is 15 out of 73, while for the mixed groups the figure was 10 out of 40 and for indigenous respondents the figure was 6 out of 23.

The quote does not explain why the Indo-Guyanese is running away from Guyana, if the findings of Dr. Ifill is to be believed. The message which we continue to shout is the importance for Barbados to monitor and capture the results of the impact of a multi-ethnic country like Guyana. The ERC in Guyana has been established for ten years, and has had no obvious ameliorating impact on the rapidly deteriorating racial tensions. Good sense dictates that Barbados should become proactive in managing the rapidly growing ethnic groups. We continue to reiterate that Guyana and Trinidad provide the best case studies to anticipate how we need to manage ethnic relations in Barbados.

Why should we wait until the crap hits the fan?

For Barbadians who feel that their passive and reactive approach to the matter of managing race relations is the correct approach, they should wake up and smell the garlic…we mean coffee! Members of the BU household and others we are sure have listened to the early utterances of Minister Maxine McClean who seems to have a ‘feel’ for this challenge at hand. Does she and her young government need more time?


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129 responses to “Gauging The Impact of Growing Ethnic Groups Living In Barbados”


  1. Fellow bajans, we are being fed sweet tasting poison with a long spoon. I’ve made enough comments on this topic, I’ll wait and watch this disasture unfoiled. Good luck and God bless .We’re just letting people rub s–t in our faces. WE WILL REGRET IT. I’ll say no more .


  2. Looking at the CBC news last night I realised that not one but 2 senior ministers were sent to attend the guyanese do on Browne’s beach – Kellamn and sinckler.

    Lord help us.


  3. DLP Administration better check themselves. Up to today people in government offices talking bout what Chris Sinkler say. I have said openly I support the DLP, but leh me tell wunna something “DLP Administration.

    DONT TALK NA SHITE”.

    It is we who put you there and we will MOVE YOU too.

    Chris Sinkler I hear you with my 2 ears (and my friends) who I beg to vote for you. Say that the guyanese better dont come in your voting booths and do foolishness. (And you know they tried)

    And now you got the audacity to playn you want to be owen arthur, you see what happen to he.

    HE GONE.

    Dont talk no foolishness; We put you there not the BLASTED Guyanese. We believed you SIR!

    How could you embarass us like that.

    You wait, You wait!

  4. A True Believer Avatar
    A True Believer

    Gorilla Mout Sinckler disappoint me but you know I never thought about the closeness of Thompson and some indians until negroman point it out. My foolish BLP cousin tell me that Estwick married a guyanese indian so dont look for no releef from them.

    I getting worried about my people from the royal shop cause i aint hear that they get back the jobs after all this time. I hope trottie aint playing the fool.


  5. Yes David Estwick wife is an Indian,Chris sinckler got a guyanese brother – in law or sister – in law – and some guyanese nephew and nieces.

    Esther suckoo mother is a trinidadian indian etc etc.

    I keep telling everybody that you have to be really strong in making your point to the DLP politicians that you voted them in based on their promise to change this situation with the guyanese and other large number of immigrants on this small island.

    The indians are known to try to get their way with politicians,civil servants by trying to bribe their way in.

    If the politicians or civil servant want money they will give you that,if you want a woman they will send one of their own,if you want a car – it dey.

    If you don’t believe ask O’brien Trotman and some of the senior immigration officers.

    SO CONFRONT YOUR dlp POLITICIANS AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY INTEND DOING AND HOW SO!

    Don’t let them tell you any foolishness,be stern.

  6. Observing closely Avatar
    Observing closely

    I heard Chris Sinckler at mass meeting in Free Hill making laughing sport at significant number of Guyanese living in Black Rock area. I am surprised to hear the hogwash he spoke at Brownes Beach. It appears he is pandering to Norman Faria and the Guyanese. Why? This is our country Barbados not Guyana. Kellman has Guyanese working for him in Moontown. One of them weighed food for me last time I went there. Kellman is a loose cannon. Sinckler better watch his mouth.


  7. One of the problems we have had – in Barbados – over many years. Is that we make important decisions on the basis of “indivudals” whom we perceive to be good. Those indivudals direct our thinking. We do not concentrate our minds on the “overall effect” of a situation and its likely impact on society. We think of our personal interaction, or the interactions of relatives and friends.

    Those personal interactions then dictate our policy, it is an error of judgment.

    You should not formulate the policy of a country ; on the basis that you cannot take appropriate action; because my neighbour – who is a very nice person, – or my friend’s wife – also a very nice person, will be discomfited.

    Decisions should be taken in the interest of the country as a whole, in both the short and long term. Whilst respecting the rights and privilegeds of those with whom you do not interact…or interact with.


  8. Yarbroom I agree with you but this is a challenge which small islands will have to confront. We are so tiny and Barbadians are aquainted with the other person in some way that decisions are bound to be touched heavily by relationships rather than what is the public good.


  9. In Chris Sinkler’s defence what he said regarding any person who is n Barbados legally is appripiate. On the political campaign we heard him say that he would use Immigration Officers as his election officials to protect him feom what he admited was an alarmingly high uyanese immigrant population in his constituency.

    Was this the typical election statement to win votes or did/does he have a genuine concern? This is the quetion which Sinkler must answer and his credibility will depend on it.

    This is an issue which will evoke some emotion but we have to try our best to be dispassionate if we want to move our discussions along. Remember that BU’s beef is our open door immigration policy and the affect of not proactively managing multi ethic groups on our society.


  10. I respect and agree with Yardbroom’s and David’s comment. I could not have said it so eloquently.

    I was the first one to ‘open up’ my trusting arms to embrace Guyanese and others. However, as I grew older and became more conscious about my beliefs. I realised that although Globalisation is upon us every one is ‘still’ looking out for themselves.

    Therefore, why cant I not want every thing for my felllow bardians.

    I then became a mother of two children and realised how it is to love your own and to want nothing but the best for them. That is when I decided I would work tooth and nail for my children in ‘my country.’ I then met others who had some of my beliefs and aspirations. Please dont get me wrong, I can understand persons migrating to other places and working hard daily to make things better for their children.

    But please do not tell me that I am stupid when I keep noise in my country because I have realised that the new type of Guyanese and Foreigners that have invaded our country do not care about Barbadians but are here to ‘jook out our eye’.

    I am sorry if persons cannot understand my passion about this issue. This is a serious issue and I will fight for my beliefs, moreover, I will inform the fellows on the block. Who sometimes do not know what is going on and make them more aware and conscious about their country.

    We need proud outstanding citizens to carry Barbados forward not persons with shady characters.

    Therefore, the immigration policies need to be changed and be more effective. We need to check for Bajans MORE.

    ‘Because we are all we have.’


  11. JC
    Negroman is behind you. I support your views wholeheartedly.I am passionate about this issue and this is the only issue I see that is of utmost importance to all concern right thinking black Barbadians.Like JC I have my family to look after.I do not want my son to grow in a Barbados with the racial tension existing in Trinidad & Guyana especially.Fellow bloggers the very existence of blacks in Barbados & indeed the world is in doubt.All type of schemes are in place to eliminate the black race.Inter breeding,man made diseases like AIDS & Ebola,crime and the marginlisation of blacks in USA,Canada & Europe are in place to rid the world of black people.This is not stupid talk that many of our people will want to believe but it is the reality that face us today.Blacks in Barbados recognise that when the Arawaks,Caribs & American Red Indians first saw the white man it was never consider that that was the beginning of the end for them .As we all know what was the end result.The destruction of the Arawak,Caribs & Red Indians.The same could and will happen to us if we dot not put a stop to this influx of Indians,Chinese & eurpoeans.Our fate is set.
    This government will do little or nothing to address the Guyana situation.I believe we elected a bunch of incompetent,nonsensical individuals who are no different from the previous administration.I will like this present administration to realise that we got rid of the BLP for the insulting way that the former PM Owen Arthur treated black people.The insults to our immigration officers,the police and other civil servants,The arrogance of the former PM.His famous hands off the Guyanese statement and his blatant disregard for the laws of Barbados by admitting that he hire illegal Guyanese to do work on his home.We as so call intelligent people allow him to get away that nonsense.I think he should be at the place where law breakers are kept.This is Barbados and those things will never happen.
    I regret voting for this present governemnt.

    WE ARE IN A SAD POSITION WE HAVE NO POLITICAL PARTY TO LOOK AFTER OUR INTEREST NOT THE DLP,BLP OR EVEN PEP
    LORD HELP US.


  12. JC
    I liken the Barbados situation to black and white penguins perched on a rock. There is a cold blizzard blowing and we are bonded together for warmth, shelter and support.

    Those who wish to join us, we will outstretch our little wings to gather you in, and keep you safe.

    However those who seek to harm us, steal our chicks, trample our eggs our loosen our perch. Sorry, find another rock and leave us in peace.

    It might seem harsh, but it ensures our survival.


  13. JC

    I salute you as a mother and a patriotic barbadian.

    I think you are on the right track – that is – you MUST SPEAK to the Boys on the block and educate them as to what this influx of immigrants and in particular indian and other ethnic groups will mean for them,their future and their children.

    Let them know they must not be enticed by these indian women pretending to like black men in oreder to marry them and get bajan citizenship.

    JC also educate the old men – the pensioners – and also the old women – because these are also some of the people these guyanese target to get their homes,their land and their pensions and to marry them to get citizenship.

    A former immigration officer was on the radio some time last year speaking about this same practice and giving an example of a young indian guyanese girl barely out of her teens almost dragging up an old,old,old man up the immigration steps to legalize her status – because she had married him.

    YARDBROOM

    Could not agree with you more!

    This whole issue of personal interaction,that is, – I went to university with some guyanese or trini indians or I have a paki indian living next to me who real nice – or in David Estwick case – I married to a guyanese indian woman – these are the reasons politicians like Owen ( who talked about guyanese friends while at Mona campus) and Chris Sinckler and Dennis Kellman and Peter Wickham – make disastrous policies for the whole of the country – BASED ON THEIR INTERACTION WITH ONE OR TWO NON NATIONALS.

    We in trouble hear!

    Negroma,Scout,David and others keep fighting – one blow at a time – tell we bring this whole thing tumbling down.

    However please,please,please – just don’t only speak about it on the internet – do so at work,in your homes so your family can be educated,on the blocks,in the church,in your cricket clubs,in the rumshop – and most of all at your constituency branch meetings.

    Try and attend these parliamentary branch meetings when they are called and make your voices heard – over and over and over again – even if you are the only person doing so.

    There might be more persons behind you than you think,but we bajans are too much like sheep – we too like to follow the others – we too follow fashion – can’t think for we selves.


  14. Many people are aware about what is going on but as usual we wait till things get worse before we start to put measures in place.

    Recently I was in a conversation with a lady whose elderly relative is living in the district hospital and a Guyanese woman is now in his house and ‘renting it out too.’

    This is just one story; Pray tell me, why would we want those types of persons in our country.

    Ms. McClean, Mr. Sinkler and David Thompson. I and a lot of young persons whom I convinced to vote for you trusted you. Our proof to you with our trust was when we gave you our Xs. Is this the gratitude that we deserve?

    We want a Barbados who is strong and progressive not a bunch of imbeciles trying to trick us in any way or form boldly letting us know to our faces how much they despise us. Mr. Sinkler shame on you sir shame on you.

    Immigration policies must be put in place to deter these illegal immigrants from gaining entry so easily.

    When will you people wake up? I will continue to let my voice be heard; my friends sometimes laugh at me but I can see what is going to happen if we dont be careful we will be like Trinidad and Guyana.


  15. We need to tell Gorilla mout Sinckler that he make us shame. Get the Guyaneese out now.


  16. Gorilla mout,stupid ,immature Chris Sinckler indeed made us shame.As JC said this is the thanks we are receiving for putting those jokers in parlaiment.I am not surprise .I had some conversations with Patrick Todd and Steve Blackett prior to the elections.I enquire about the Guyanese situation and if the DEMS will make it an election issue.The response from both individuals was that the Party is staying clear of that issue because the Party does not know how much Guyanese are in Barbados and the impact they could have on the outcome of the elections.Can you believe that crap.That is the truth coming from both individuals.As usual I will challenge both of them and indeed the Party to come and refute the comment.
    I agree with Anonymous this is a matter that we should continue to harp away on.As I mentioned constantly our very survival depends on how we handle this situation.

    DO NOT LEAVE IT TO THE POLITICIANS ACT NOW


  17. Don’t forget Dennis Kellman was at that guyanese ‘DO’ and was also making some foolish statements.

    I don’t think these DLP politicians get it yet.

    We don’t want no lotta long talk,we want to see some action on this issue.

    Like Yesterday DLP.


  18. There is a saying the more things change the more they remain the same.

    This saying has proven to be true.

    Thanks to the DLP!


  19. The problem is that we bajans are very reactive but in this case and we don’t wake up and smell the roses and become Pro active, we are going to smell stinking missies instead. Time is running out. I’m getting scared and I get scared I get frustrated and I get Frustrated I react.


  20. The Scou
    I feel the same way.I am also getting scare and angry.I am at the breaking point.Your views about us being reactive are so true.Everything is a nine day wonder for us and then it is dead.
    I believe the guyanese and the officials are hoping that this issue is another one that will eventually died.I am determine not to let that happen.We have too much at stake.
    Indo-Guyanese go home .We do not want you all in Barbados.


  21. Negroman
    Have you realise the amount of indo-guyanes children going to school here in B’dos? Sunday the one of our ministers that they are committed to treat them just as good or better than bajans. Does that mean free education, free health services and the like. Already some are receiving houses from NHC through the last administration, while bajans names remain on the waiting list. So much for passive bajans.


  22. You serious scout or are you making sport that cant be true. I am going to kick up pist bout that; if it is true i cant believe under a BLP or DLP administration that Guyanese would get houses that persons like myself have signed up for and have never even gotten a letter in the mail stating that they are keeping my name on file!

    We want a piece of the rock, we as young citizens of this country deserve a piece of it. I am a youg person with two children and I work very hard, I have had many difficulties in my life and I have not given up on myself or my country. Those guyanese dont know nothing about here. I have vowed to myself that I will be one of the bajans who pass on a legacy to my children with “bajan values’.

    Go back to Guyana, go back. This thing is getting dangerous, sooner rather than later some body gon say this unfair and all hell will break loose.

    I am reminding the Thompson Gvernment to remember that they came into government with the buzz word being CHANGE.

    Should I ask Change for who?


  23. JC
    Check out how many of them operate stalls in Fairchild Street, while again many bajans are waiting for years to get one. Many of them driving around with no license. i heard of one who got in an accident, gave the police one name and never turned up with him driver’s license. He hightailed it back home and the bajan man’s insurance still waiting for a report. The man catching the bus now; car write off.


  24. This is indeed a shame. Up to this afternoon, I heard many nasty stories about them.

    I am so sorry for us.

    Many persons in Barbados dont like these people. David Thompson’s Administration is going to have to do something. Come on Bajans do not let up on the politians.

    We gave them 100% support , Therefore, they have to prove their worth.

    My girlfriend told me this afternoon that when ever somebody tries to talk about this open immigration policy issue VOB cuts them off. Ya want to know what. When ever peter wickam and crew are on I hardly listen.

    They are insulting people who make them what they are.

    Shame Shame on them.


  25. JC Just tell your girlfriend to read that post by BU – ‘WE SHALL OVERCOME’.

    There is a sentence there by David that explains it all:”Ask Mike Browne who was hired by Vic Fernandes to be the hatchet man on the call in shows.”

    If you understand what the hatchet man means – then you will realise the seriousness of this situation – where the media is working – not for the people – but against the wishes of the people.

    What time is it?

    A time for change (for the media bosses) – that is why VOB should never get a T.V. License.


  26. JC,Scout,Anonymous & the Rest
    I have pass my limit where these indo-guyanese is concern.Talk is not enough.It must be taken to another level because the authorities are not responding or listening to us.If any of you all get the chance to read the Thursday 29,May edition.
    f the Advocate read it and see what that idiot Chris Sinckler said in parlaiment.He is a national disgrace.I hope he and members of the Government read these blogs.They will see that we fed up,angry and this country is ticking time bomb.
    ACTION IS DEMANDED NOW
    I am a member of the Democratic Labour Party and voted for the said party.However,I am beginning to wonder if I did the right thing.This is a joke government we have today.I regret I voted for the idiots in the Democratic Labour Party.It seems the guyanese are going to be more comfortabel under this clown government.We voted for real change and nothing is happening.What a shame.
    I am prepare to make the ultimate sacrifice wher this indo-guyanese situation is concern.If any of you all hear that a black Barbadian man and some indo-guyanese had a disturbance.It is me Negroman.Enough is the Enough.
    My black brothers are being targeted and torture in Guayna today.The Police and Army raided Agricola a black neighbourhood in Guyana and arrested over twenty black men for no reason at all..This is to provoke the black communities so that the Police could shoot them down.Our fellow black brothers in Guyana are being targeted by the wicked racist Indo-guyanese government.Indo guyanese should never be allow to come into Barbados and live sweet and comfortable.The time has come to make life for them uncomfortabel .we must get rid of them by any means neccessarily and I mean that.


  27. In today’s weekend nation a black guyanese man with a bajan surname of Haynes was interrogated by the police. What happen to the Singhs, Persauds etc ( the indian ones). We treating the afro guyanese the same way in B’dos as they are treated in guyana, even at the airport.


  28. Negroman
    I too is disappointed by the reaction of the DLP to the guyanese situation. I have not seen this BU so agrieved since the build up to the last elections. I hope somebody from the ruling party would monitor this and do something about it PRONTO. Let me remind all of you WE ARE THE MANAGERS OF THE M.P’s. WE can HIRE and FIRE when not working in our interest.


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