Banner promoting anonymous crime reporting with a phone and contact number 1 800 TIPS (8477), featuring the Crime Stoppers logo and a QR code for submitting tips.

โ† Back

Your message to the BLOGMASTER was sent

Submitted by Yardbroom

Could it be that with regard to Guyanese immigration a mistake was made a long time ago, and that mistake was compounded by a perhaps misguided but well intentioned act by the Barbados Immigration Department. Sometimes you can act in good faith but no good prevails. Norman Faria the Guyanese Honorary Consul was invited by the Barbados Immigration Department, to give an In-house Training Programme for Immigration Staff on the role of the Consul. On the surface it seems a reasonable thing to do. I do not know who instigated this exercise.

I will now use Norman Faria’s own words as reported in a letter he sent to the Stabroek News in Guyana dated 23 March 2002, to allow you to draw some conclusions. I will make a few points later in this submission. Remember his words are for Guyanese readers.

(1) ” I took the opportunity to remind them of the Consulate’s monitoring of their actions towards Guyanese visitors.”

(2) “There have been results Guyanese have been permitted entry with expired passports after consulate assurances.”

(3) “Wrongfully seized jewellery has been returned upon consulate’s intervention.”

(4) “We cannot publicly criticize the Government of the receiving state in this case Barbados, on the routine administration work of its statutory bodies such as the Immigration Department.”

(5)” A second factor is that Barbados Immigration and Customs operations have become more “efficient,” if I may use that term.”

(6)” I have been chosen from 27 Honorary Consuls in Barbados to give this talk.”

Let us examine his comments in detail because they are not innocuous and they give us the ideas which drive them.

#(1) There can be no doubt that I am monitoring your actions the operative word here for emphasis is “remind” it has obviously been done before, but here it reinforces the idea of monitoring.

#(2) Travellers are expected to have their travel documents in order before starting their journey. This is not an emergency situation the immigrant has started his/her journey with an expired passport, no more needs to be said.

#(3) The seed is that there is something not quite right here “wrongfully” is this general practice. You make a judgment, I will not.

#(4) “We cannot publicly criticize” and this is public, you the reader is left to draw your own conclusions.

#(5) The sneer and disdain in which he writes of The Immigration Department and how he uses the word “efficient” in a throw-away fashion. I leave for you to judge.

#(6) I am not as other Consuls, “I have been chosen.” This says it all the importance factor is writ large. I will not use the Latin, I will simply say first among equals.

The relationship between Norman Faria and the Immigration Department started on the wrong footing. In view of his comments, was it a lecture, talk, discussion or an opportunity to get his views across. How were the seats arranged? This letter partly explains why we are in this position and gives an insight how Norman Faria interacts with and views the Immigration Department and the Barbados authorities in general.

PS: I am indebted to Anonymous for bringing this to my attention.


Discover more from Barbados Underground

Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

56 responses to “The Guyanese Immigration Mistake And The Honorary Consul's Views”


  1. @Yardbroom

    It is possible Mr. Faria was selected because Mr. Owen Arthur as lead for CSME matters felt it would be a good Public Relations strategy i.e.to placate fears between two neighbouring countries, to no do so might have been perceived as derailing his work


  2. I often think about where we would be as a people if we didnot have this internet blog site to allow us and people like you yardbroom to make your useful contributions.

    As I read reudon eversley troubling story, and note how in his time of need his colleagues at the Barbados Association of Journalists and other media houses thrown him under the bus – I know based on the goings on at the Nation and Advocate and VOB that our voice – that is,the voice of the average man on the street would not be heard – were it not for Barbados Underground.

    I was reading a post by margaret knight at BFP where she said there are so many persons from every strata in this society who read the blogs – they too are informed about what is going on and what are the concerns of the people from the postings on this site.

    I think about those DLP politicians – how when they were in the wilderness,they clutched at the hands and the skirts of the voters – begging to be given a chance to right the wrongs that were taking place – and now that we have helped them to get in – you get the sense that they think we are idiots and nuisances who are only good at putting our X – next to their name.

    To hell with deportation of illegal immigrants,or changes to the citizenship requirement,or the sale of our land to non nationals – now they are recieving benches and eating roti at dinners and special events.

    Barbadians be damn – seems to be their silent motto.

    At all cost let us appease the guyanese and the chineese,because the bajans – well we can take them for granted.

    We know how to go up black rock and long gap and moon town or six roads and talk up a storm and then do nothing after that.

    Haven’t you heard – bajans got short memories?


  3. Yardbroam your attention to the details is exemplary.

    ….On a slightly different note but still related to Guyanese immigration concerns. I was fallowing the “fallout” Bharrat Jagdeo has been subjected to regarding his banning of a Journalist (Gordon Moseley) from Presidential assignments and state press conferences.

    Gordon Moseley in part of his response provided some of the contents of the meeting Bharrat had with Guyanese living in Antiqua. It was Gordon’s coverage of this event that angered Bharrat and that led to the empasse.

    ========================
    “Mr President, I would encourage you, that before you make wild statements about this reporter and the reports aired on our news programme, you take the time to look at those reports and not rely on the advice of your PR machinery.

    For your benefit and that of the Guyanese people, I have attached below, a verbatim copy of my complete report on the Guyanese meeting in Antigua as reported on Capitol News from Antigua. Note we say hundreds and not 4,000 as GINA claims; the video is there count the participants.

    President Jagdeo meets
    Guyanese community
    in Antigua

    โ€œHundreds of Guyanese who live and work in Antigua turned up Thursday evening at a reception hall in downtown St.Johns for a community meeting with the President. The meeting went on for just over two hours and during that time, many of the Guyanese raised concerns about different problems back home and here in Antigua from land issues to immigration.โ€

    Guyanese woman:
    ———————
    At home, weโ€™re dealing with the issue of victimization as a people, as a black people, then coming to Antigua, we are dealing with victimization as a nation. How can we solve the problem? My Grand-mother taught me that charity begins at home. We will have to deal with it at home. We should be respected as a people in our homeland then I think we will be respected nationwide and worldwide.

    Guyanese man:
    ——————
    There are many Guyanese here who are 50 going over to 60, who would have worked in Guy-ana for 20 years, I am asking that we open a window that through that embassy, they could make their application to the NIS and get the pension that they are qualified for.

    Guyanese woman:
    ———————-
    We all need to go home back some time, but we begging you to fix the country that we all can ship out. Then we will go back and stop all these embarrassment that we have to go through here in Antigua. I need to go home back!

    President Jagdeo:
    ———————-
    Outside the elections, we have to get together, and work hard to move our country forward. We have to develop that kind of culture.

    โ€œWhen one man tried to raise the issue of crime, he was heckled by the large crowd. Many in the audience said Guyanese must stop giving Guyana a bad rap overseas, because that may be one of the reasons why many of them are badly treated by other Caricom nationals.โ€

    Guyanese man:
    ——————-
    I would like to know if it is comfortable to go back to Guyana. Guyana is where I come from.

    I would like to know about the crime situation, And if these matters are being addressed. I would like to know if these matters are being addressed.

    President Jagdeo:
    ———————-
    We are not the worst, we are not the worst. And they donโ€™t say about the problems we are facing and have to face with large numbers of drug dealers and rapists and murderers who the US sent back all the time. Hundreds of them back into our society. So, how this has affected crime in many parts.

    โ€œPresident Jagdeo told the crowd that despite the crime problem, Guyana is seeing development. He said Guyana is not the only place where crime is an issue. He expressed confidence that the situation will improve.โ€

    President Jagdeo:
    ———————-
    I have confidence in our police and the security forces and over time we are going to deal with it.

    โ€œThe Antiguan government has been praised by the Guyana authorities for providing jobs and a new way of life for many Guyanese nationals. However, many still believe that when it comes to free movement in the Caribbean community, Guyanese are still at the losing end. In St Johnโ€™s Antigua, Gordon Moseley for Capitol News.โ€

    Yours faithfully,
    Gordon Moseley
    Senior Reporter/
    Producer
    Capitol News
    ============================


  4. Those excerpts demostrates a number of things to me.

    1: Barbados is not alone in it’s immigration concerns

    2:Barbadians are not alone in understanding what is going on in Guyana

    3:Barbadians are not alone in insisting that things in Guyana needs to be turned around and turned around fast for it’s citizen’s sake.

    4:Race is a very big problem in Guyana and we do not want to have to deal with it in Barbados.

    5:The Bharrat Jagdeo administration doesn’t appear capable of making meaningfull headway in providing the envoirnment that the Guyanese in Antiqua are insisting on to effect their wanting to return home.


  5. AH from the comments that I read; I can tell that these people want to go back home. Instead of persons quarreling with us Caribbean people for not wanting to be PUSHED out of a job or their own country. I think it is high time that persons make Jagdeo ACCOUNTABLE for his treatment of ALL Guyanese be they what ever color.

    This foolishness needs to be stopped and persons need to CHARGE Mr. Jagdeo !


  6. David

    My post about 2 hours ago seem to have gone into spam.

    Please check and see if it could be retrieved.


  7. It is unfortunate that mineral rich Guyana that can feed the entire Caribbean and house us as well is in shambles.After reading the comments of Guyanese living in Antigua I can only come to the conclusion that the majority of Guyanese fleeing that country will love to return and make a positive contribution to the development of that country.The Guyanese are definitely unfair and sometimes ill treated in all Caribbean countries.This should not be happening but unfortunately it occurs.Guyanese must recognise that it is natural that citizens of any country will rebel if a large influx of foreign nationals are pouring into their country.It is a natural reaction in all humans.It occurs in USA,Britain,Africa and all the other regions in the world.Even Guyanese themselves are concern with the large influx of Brazillians coming over the border.
    I believe that Bharat Jagdeo policy as was highlighted in the press not so long ago about training Guyanese for the export market will not neccessarily solve the problems that Guyana are experiencing now.That might bring short term benefits like the remittances that will be sent back from those persons.However,a comprehensive long term developmental policy must be introduce to really enhance the economic good of Guyana.
    The plight and treatment of Guyanese not only in Barbados but also in all the other Caribbean countries will continue until the economic condition in Guyana improves.
    I believe that if our leaders are serious about moving forward the Caribbean a relief programme should be implemented in Guyana as a matter of urgency and the racial conflicts that have Guyana divided to core be address.The politics of race must cease in Guyana for the true potential of Guyana to be realise.All ethnic groups in Guyana must co-exist together.
    I believe that general elections in Guyana must be put on a hold and a unity government be install until the racial conflicts in Guyana are resolve.This present Jagdeo administration is incapable of dealing with the massive problems Guyana have today.
    It is time for serious action to be taken to assist Guyana.All the Caribbean nations will benefit from such an initiative.


  8. The first form of assistance is to hold JAGDEO ACCOUNTABLE!


  9. JC // July 31, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    The first form of assistance is to hold JAGDEO ACCOUNTABLE!
    =================================

    Jagdeo did not elect himself, you have to hold the registered electors of Guyana responsible, It is Guyanese who have experience the failures of Bharrat’s Government for two terms and still elected him for a third. I have no sympathy for the plight of indo-guyanese, go get the government you deserved.

    Read the following and you will see why, also can you tell me who wrote it in 2006?
    —————————-
    ‘In instances where discrimination is at the personal level it can be described as unfortunate, while discrimination at the national and political level is nothing short of tragic since this can – and has – impacted negatively on the development of a state and on the lives of millions.

    The leader of the People’s National Congress/Reform-One Guyana (PNCR-1G ), Mr Robert Corbin, is the latest victim of racial discrimination of the political variety. He is likely to be forced out of the Guyana political scene; however he can take comfort in the fact that he was not judged harshly because of his performance, but because of matters over which he has no control.

    At the risk of sounding partisan, I am prepared to attempt a professional analysis of the outcome of the last general election in Guyana which dealt a heavy political blow to the PNCR-1G. The major factor that needs to be considered is the socio-political environment in which the last election took place. Central to this environment is the fact that the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPPC) was anything but a rising political star.

    That party peaked in 1997 when it gained 55 per cent of the national political pie, however in the 2001 election, the PPPC’s political support dipped negatively to 53 per cent, which is an electoral swing that should be a clear indication of growing national dissatisfaction in an electoral environment based in PR, which is infinitely more sensitive to such shifts than our system.

    The fact that the PPPC has now secured 55 per cent of the national vote is nothing short of remarkable and were this author involved directly in their politics, I would be asking some hard questions about this last election.

    Shifts of this nature have occurred in Barbados in 1999; however the circumstances were entirely different, especially as it relates to the national economic environment. Guyana’s economic environment is certainly not the best and has most certainly deteriorated over the past five years.

    Moreover, there was no recent “watershed” period during which the Guyanese people could be said to have been judging the PNCR-1G harshly. Guyanese voted in two elections since the PPPC was elected, hence any election held currently has to be seen as a referendum on their leadership, and a result like this appears to be an endorsement of their policies – which seems “odd”.

    Guyana is also currently characterised by a wave of crime which its government appears to have no control over and there is also mounting evidence of the extent to which the government is itself mired in corruption. The arrest of PPPC financier Roger Khan raised questions and the fact that the newly-appointed commissioner of police had his United States visa suspended added weight to these concerns.

    Conditions like these should be enough to bring about a change of government, unless the opposition is totally incompetent, and this was not the case. The opposition ran a focused campaign which identified and addressed the many issues facing the country and further sought to force alliances which appeared to address concerns that the PNCR was exclusively a party for Afro-Guyanese.

    In a situation where a party like this does worse, we can only assume that Guyanese voted in a way that was totally unrelated to issues. One does not have to look very far to realise the factor to which I refer, and it is sad that the continued underdevelopment of that country will be based on the accident of birth that made Robert Corbin African and Bharrat Jagdeo Indian.

    In a political environment such as this, the only hope for the PNCR would be to identify a leader that shares their vision and also happens to be Indian. Yes, it’s hard to believe this is 2006.


  10. With a view towards the various comments made to date, regarding Guyana and the Jagdeo administration, one can only safely assume that something is terribly wrong with the psyche of the guyanese people, especially “the indo guyanese population”.

    How can a people who call themselves guyanese , only see things in the form of INDIANS, withhout any consideration for their country’s development? Because like their president, they are a selfish breed and will stop at nothing until they have everything for themselves. Did you notice, they are incapapable of dealing with governance in a sensible manner. Bharrat Jagdeo is an embarassment to the guyanese nation.

    N.B. I AM OF NEGRO AND INDIAN EXTRACTION.


  11. AH I wuld like to KNOW who wrote it!

    But AH couldnt Jagdeo show testicular fortitude and be a LEADER! After all he is the president of Guyana LOL!

    He needs to put Guyana FIRST!

    Do you think that Guyana will ever be run efficiently, you cant get rid of racism but at least you can TRY to be LESS racist!


  12. JC before i named the author here is a follow up the to first article that they wrote.

    “LAST WEEK People And Things examined the issue of race in the politics of Guyana and came to some conclusions about the fate of any Afro-Guyanese leader that attempts to lead this Caribbean country. Although the conclusions are disturbing to some, it is a reality that many have been convinced of long ago; and it is, perhaps, this outcome that Forbes Burnham attempted to forestall by means that were somewhat unconventional and would certainly not be tolerated in the current political environment.

    Guyana is, however, not the only country in which such racial polarisation exists, and it could be useful to examine the politics of Trinidad and Tobago, which curiously enough demonstrates an alternative model in which Afro-Trinidadians have emerged “on top”.

    The root of the People’s National Congress Reform’s (PNCR) political problem lies in a political system which was ironically introduced by it. This is the system of proportional representation and this allows a racial voting pattern to be reflected in national support for one or other party. Hence where a majority of Indos vote for an Indo government, then an Indo government can never lose power.

    The late Dr Eric Williams who was one of the founding fathers of the Trinidad and Tobago constitution was evidently aware of this and sought to maintain (and manipulate) the First-Past-The-Post (FPP) system of elections to the advantage of his People’s National Movement (PNM). He accepted that his party which still appears to represent the Afro minority would never win a majority in places like Siparia, hence he surrendered these and sought to enhance his base along the East-West Corridor which was less racially polarised.

    This FPP works well since it places a “cap” on the maximum impact of the 80 per cent of electors who will vote for the United National Congress (UNC) in places like Siparia each and every time.

    In addition to this major tool of electoral management, there have been suggestions that Dr Williams exploited the fact that religion often works as a counter to race among Indos. Hence the disharmony and distrust between Hindu and Muslim Indians was another of Dr Williams’ assets, especially since the predominant religion among Afros is Christianity and although there are different Christian denominations, these are not particularly divisive.

    Against this background the PNM held office in Trinidad and Tobago continuously for 24 post-Independence years until the unified opposition defeated it in 1986. However, the victor was not the Indo-UNC, but an alliance of multi-racial parties led by an Afro-Trinidadian from Tobago. The UNC later won office, but only by default, since there was a dead-heat and the balance of power was held by the National Alliance for Reconstruction, which at that time preferred the UNC.

    The UNC’s term in office was short and in a sense it was “duped” out of office by the same A.N.R. Robinson that ushered it in. The Prime Minister spoke frequently about a national unity government, however, it is clear that the UNC continues to be considered an Indian party. The more interesting development now, however, is that the Indo community continues to be politically divided, this time not by religion, but by the type of leader who should be the repository of their support. Interestingly enough, two potential leaders have emerged with two distinctive styles. The formidable Basdeo Panday, who is perhaps one of the few remaining “firebrand” politicians in the Caribbean, has been damaged considerably by charges of corruption, but still has control of his UNC even though he no longer leads it.

    The alternative Indo leader in Trinidad and Tobago is Dr Winston Dookeran who is perceived to be as “upright” as any politician locally, but lacks the charisma that many believe is necessary to capture the imagination of Indo-Trinidad.

    After being elected to the post of political leader of the UNC, Dookeran has left to form his own party, the Congress of the People (COP) and this once more presents an image of disunity within the Indo Trinidadian community.

    In this instance, Caribbean Development Research Services polls have demonstrated that Dookeran does have stronger support than Panday within the Indo Trinidadian community. However these polls were conducted at a time when both actors were part of the UNC team and it is left to be seen if Dookeran will be able to take his support with him.

    In the meantime, the PNM continues to be a major political force which attracts the attention of Afro Trinidadians and can demonstrate that it has that one indispensable political quantity, which is unity. It has remained intact since its inception and while many believe that Patrick Manning is not the best person to lead the party, the entire organisation has stood steadfastly behind him, while the Indo vote is being split over and over again. “


  13. Actually i gave it away. The two articles where written by none other than illegal immigration advocate and anti-borders socialist Peter Wickham. Remember he is a political scientist by qualification and a pollster by profession. A multiracial, multicultural Barbados means more money in his pocket.

    Search the nationnews for “Accident by birth” Peter wickham and you will find both articles.

    …I’ll say it again Barbados should not pay any attention to Peter Wickham on the issue of indo-guyanese illegal immigration into Barbados.


  14. Some would accuse Barbados Underground of pulling down Guyana. We know that a more intelligent conclusion to make is that we are encouraging discussion on a matter which Barbados and wider CARICOM have preferred to give lip service. Guyana has a problem of racial tension and blockers to freedom of expression. The Council for Hemispheric Affairs which is a non-profit organization had this to say as far back as 2004:

    Dwarfed by its larger neighbors, Guyana is often neglected by the international community; but for President Jagdeo, the country presents an enormous challenge. Aside from Haiti and Honduras, Guyana is perhaps the most hapless nation in Latin America. Located north of Brazil, the small Caribbean basin nation shares its contested western border with Venezuela. Ethnic strife, since before Guyanaโ€™s independence, has continued to severely splinter the countryโ€™s political infrastructure and prevent the nation from fully developing. This has not only had a detrimental effect on Guyanaโ€™s economy and society, but has also profoundly influenced the nationโ€™s struggle for democracy. Guyana epitomizes current concerns over the legitimacy, vivacity and overall approval of democratic institutions throughout all of Latin America. With a small population of just over 700,000, the racial strife that has plagued the country since it was a British colony will remain unsolvable as long as political partisans claim that elections are unfair and rabid political rivalry persists.

    After 38 years of independence, post-colonial Guyana continues to struggle to establish its national identity and find its place in the Western Hemisphere and the global economy. The nation faces a thicket of pressing issues, including potentially rancorous disputes regarding land and sea boundaries with its neighbors, Venezuela and Suriname. Most importantly, however, Guyanaโ€™s economy faces severe pressure from external sources. In 2000, the nationโ€™s per capita gross domestic product was a mere $760, making it one of the poorest countries not only in the Western Hemisphere, but worldwide.

    Read Full Article


  15. This article should be required reading for all in Barbados.

    ——————
    “The inhabitants of Guyana tend to remain devoted to their ethnic ties, creating numerous societal problems. In December 1950, a commission from Great Britain visited the Caribbean nation and reported the existence of profound racial discontent. While that body interviewed only middle and upper class East Indians, the tensions it found originated among the younger segment of the population, who actually expressed a desire for a more fully integrated Guyanese society. It was also reported that mutual interdependence was present among the different races living side-by-side. On the other hand, the commission observed that many Indo-Guyanese did not merely look forward to independence from Britain, but also to their inclusion in a future Indian Empire, a desire that strained the relations between the varying Guyanese communities.”

    ————————-
    HAVE THINGS IN GUYANA CHANGE FOR THE BETTER SINCE 1950?


  16. While working in guyana, I was there just before an elections. My driver, an indian, admitted to me that he had three I.Ds to vole in three different regions. There is no way that Jagdeo will be removed from office by the election process and any coup will be very bloody. I can’t understand how the Caricom leaders could embrace this guy. He is a dictator. This is why I see these illegals, I classify as political refugees.


  17. the jagdeo government feels that the PNC was in government for 28 years and they will be there forever they will leave no stone un turned to make that happen…i sympatize with my fellow african guyanese cuz many are being victimized and they dont have a voice…and jagdeo has become a vicious dictator ..may god see us thru!!


  18. The following comment was received by BU via feedback out of Guyana:

    As a Guyanese, while it is difficult for me to read about the problems arising from the presence of illegal Guyanese on your island, I quite understand your dilemma. I have always been of the opinion that Guyanese people have failed miserably to reign in our government. When elections take place, people either refuse to vote or vote for the party that shares their ethnicity, despite the obvious. Guyana is nowhere near where it could be, despite its wealth of resources. And, it is no fault of anyone but us because we refuse to hold over leaders accountable and run out of the country to avail ourselves of the better life that others have built for themselves. If, however, we would do it legally and respectfully, all might be well. But we take our bad habits with us–the habits that we employed to outfox our own government are what we carry with us. So Bajans, you have reason for concern. I have not visited Barbados in about ten years, but reports from all quarters indicate
    that there is a serious problem. Make your government accountable. Send the Guyanese back to Guyana. Maybe their respite from our troubled land will give us the fighting spirit required to get us to make a change.


  19. David

    You said someone from guyana sent you that e-mail?

    So you mean we bajans are not xenophobic after all?

    This person has said in 3 paragraphs what we the BU family have been saying for months.

    I hope prime minister david thompson,maxine mcclean and norman faria read that e – mail from guyana.


  20. Anon, it is high time that our leaders stop talk “tounge and cheek as if they are half pick ducks as my grand mother would say.

    David Thompson jumped in a band with me and I KNOW that he saw the trouble that we are in!

    It is high time that we know where our leaders stand and stop pussyfooting this serious issue. We are the people of Babados and demand RESPECT!

    Sir Errol Barrow called a spade a spade. so did Sir Tom and I was a child when these great stalwarts ran things. But whenever anyone speaks of them you see the pride!

    Mr. Thompson call a an acs an ace!


  21. David
    All that I’ve been saying for months have been said in that letter from that Guyanese. I need say no more. Time we stop talk and force government’s hand to make a difinitive statement on the issue.


  22. Scout that is true.That letter sums it up beautifully.Our government has recognise the problem and I could assure everyone corrective measures are being undertaken.We want action quickly,but unfortunately the government has to do it in a systematic way.
    Negroman is going to be patient for the time being


  23. Negroman

    Have you heard something from an official source that they are doing something about the immigration problem?

    If so I am really glad.


  24. David Thompson is too astute a politician, not to take cognizance of the majority Barbados electorate. There are many reasons why he should, but the primary one is for the DLP Government to continue in office.

    During the recent election the BLP gave the “impression” that they had the Guyanese vote in Barbados, and were sympathetic to their problems. The DLP spoke about justice, fairness and the concerns of Barbadians. It is now history that they were elected with an overwhelmingly majority.

    The DLP Government now appears statesmanlike and diplomatic – with regard to the illegal immigration problem – which a Government is expected to be. However, there must always be a “pragmatic” element to politics, because it is that element which secures victory at elections.

    The Guyanese regardless of what the DLP “now say ” will vote for the BLP next election. If the DLP should lose the confidence – through inaction on the illegal immigration problem – of a large section of the Barbados electorate, they will lose the next election.

    You will probably think that does not make sense, if the majority view is against illegal Guyanese immigration, and the BLP’s stated position.

    We must always remember that the electorate often vote to teach the Government a lesson…and so it will be.

    It would indeed be a tragedy of mammoth proportions if so much promise, dedication and goodwill was snuffed out in its infancy, because of a lack of courage.

    Those who stand in the middle of the road often get run over.

    Can this scenario be redeemed to the advantage of the Barbados electorate, the DLP Government and Guyanese?

    Yes.

    Positive action to ensure “illegal immigrants” are sent back to their home countries, coupled with fair and strict immigration controls. Those Guyanese – and others – in Barbados who are legal, will then enjoy the freedom of Barbados secure in the knowledge of a general perception that they have a right through legality to be in Barbados, and they in turn will be pleased that decisive action was taken to ensure “the mores and values” of Barbados – a country to which they have come – were maintained.

    The DLP would be in a position to take advantage of the benefits, that would naturally accrue.


  25. Yes positive action is underway to rectify this situation.Things are happenning.The true magnitude of the Guyanaese problem was manisfested during Crop Over especially on Kadooment Day when it appears more Guyanese were there than Barbadians.The authorities have taken note and fairly soon positive action will be undertaken.However,we must recgnise the constraints of CSME and CARICOM are being taken into consideration with regards to this issue.
    Yardbroom is right on track with views.The DLP must act on this issue because it has everything to lose if this immigration problem is not handle properly.This is so because of my interactions with some black Guyanese friends of mine who live Barbados.During the elections there was a great fear than the DLP was going to deport all Guyanese out of Barbados if the party won the elections.I tried to convinced my black Guyanese that is not necessarily going to be the case.I tried to reasure him after being in Barbados close to 15 years and having started a family and making positives contribution to Barbados it is highly unlikely that any government will just start a mass deportation programme.I could not convinced him to support the DLP and he and the whole Guyanese group in Barbados supported the BLP.I know that as a fact.I believe very few if any Guyanese at all supported the DLP.In this regard if the DLP does not act on this issue the party WILL lose the next election.The Guyanese are symphathetic towards the BLP moreso than the DLP.TheDLP cannot get the Guyanese vote in Barbados.

    A WORD TO THE WISE IS ENOUGH


  26. That is why I was so adamant that they take heed of our cries.

    I know for a fact that loads of DLP supporters are NOT going to vote if they refuse to have proper migration policies.

    I voted DLP and I am one who will stay home.


  27. Negroman
    Let’s not mistake legal Caricom/CSME migration with what’s happening in Barbados. The fact is, there are thousands of illegal immigrants, mainly indo-guyanese, in this country and the numbers rise daily (check the airport daily). We have to arrest this situation immediately or Barbados will sink, or maybe explode. There is the likelyhood of civil unrest in the not too distance future.


  28. The Scout that is true.What we have now is not CSME but lax immigration policies,corrupt immigration & other government officials and inept leaders.We are sinking literally & figuratively. I do not want to see 1 detestable person in Barbados.However,those bastards are smart and one of the categories of free movement of Caribbean nationals is the aspect of it that business people are able to move freely.Those nuisances are exploiting that aspect of CSME to their full advantage.Therefore that is a difficult area the government has to deal with.However,reports reaching me indicate that the government is well aware of our concerns,the blogs are read and our concerns are being noted.I believe government is committed in dealing with this matter in a firm way.


  29. ******* ALERT******

    Bloggers

    Annalee Davis is on CBC 100.7 F.M. with sydney simmons discussing her film right now.


  30. I couldn’t listen, however, I told my friend to listen and anon he told me that a woman told her off and couple other people I am so sorry I could’nt not listen. Additionally, he told me that someone wanted to know thy Guyanese are telling you to come to thier country but are running from Guyana! What madness is this?

    I hope BU does an excerpt on this issue agian.

    By the way, is no one going to charge Jagdeo for the murdering of numerous blacks within his country? Is this a form of ethnic cleansing? hmmmmmm!


  31. I agreed JC Bharat Jagdeo & Clement Rohee should be charge for crime against humanity & war crimes.Bharat Jagdeo & Clement Rohee are responsible for murder of hundreds of black guyanese boys & men.The daily bombardment of black communities like Buxton,Agricola,Friendship,Vigilance & Crane and the imprisonment of the black males some as young as 12 are the war unleash on the blacks in Guyana.
    Ethnic cleansing is happenning in Guyana on a daily basis.
    I am asking all human rights organisations,USA justice department and the UN body to investigate the happenning in Guyana within the last 10 years under this vicious despot Bharat Jagdeo.I am calling on the political parties in Guyana the PNC, The Alliance For Change and all civic organisations petition the the human rights bodies,the UN & the USA justice department.I want justice for the unfortunate black guyanese boys & mens murdered by Roger Khan phantom gang with implicit support from Bharat Jagdeo,Clement Rohee and the wicked,racist & corrupt PPP administration

    BHARAT JAGDEO & CLEMENT ROHEE MUST BE CHARGE FOR CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY & WAR CRIMES.


  32. JC

    The bits and pieces I heard were at least better than VOB since the callers were free to express their views and were not cut off.

    Listening to sydney simmons he seems so white jacket black jacket – he seems to agree and disagree in the same sentence.

    I am not sure how many disagreed with her but I heard a few callers who didnot let her off the hook.

    She of course had nothing nice to say about The Barbados Underground Blog and came across as a very shallow woman.


  33. Has anyone been following CAIFESTA? Here is what a Bajan blogger(BGR) is reporting.

    http://bimchat.wordpress.com/?p=948


  34. The guyanese are something else fah trut Imagine, it was constructive criticism she complimented when there was a need for compliments however the guyanese as usual got racist stupesss same ole same ole sickening …..

    I went to a surepay recently and I saw real indo Guyanese being cashiers Negroman I thought you said that Ms. Mcclaean doing her job we still seeing REALLLLLLLLL guyanese.

    David I went on the site above and the indians are still insulting us blacks Ms. Mcclean wah gine on ……… wannah aint gettin my vote ya no ………….


  35. JC
    The blogs have ease the pressure when the authorities were beginning to get worried about the climate in this country. The fact is things have gotten worse but the administration is turning a blind eye on what’s going on. Let me warn you that the next outburst will be worse than the last.


  36. Scout but that is the scary part if they dont do something trouble WILL ERUPT!


  37. JC
    I was given the assurance by some key people in Barbados that firm action will be taken with this immigration issue with special emphasis on the Guyanese aspect of it.I agreed to cool it,however,after my observations over the past couple of weeks I am beginning to wonder if I was not duped.
    The immigration problem is not being taken seriously by the authorities.This government is blowing hot & cold on this issue.It appears more indo-Guyanese are arriving daily and even given a lot of ssistance in setting up businesses.I made a visit to Oistins and was shocked that quite a few fish stalls are being operated by Indo_guyanese.I also took a walk in the Fairchild Street Bus Terminal and many of the stalls there are also being occupied by Indo-guyanese.In Britton’s Hill there are two Indo-Guyanese supermarkets in operation and one of them even have an upstair part being built.Indo-Guyanese are making strides in Barbados thanks to David Thompson,Maxine McClean and this inept,lousy,nonsensical administration that we have us a government.
    It is not surprising though because we have hand to mouth leaders,Ministers,Senior Public Officers who accept bribes,sexual favours and the like to assist these humbugs.
    I will repeat this present joke administration is incapable and unwilling to deal with this issue in a firm way.The big financiers of the party are indians,Peter Harris of CGM Insurance fame,Ram Merchandi,Abeds,Chatrani,Abdul Pandor and the rest are very influential in the foolish Democratic Labour Party.
    Our pleas are not being taken seriously and I believe we must use another method to get our message across.Recently in South Africa events took place that we in Barbados could and must use to get the message across.This country is calm now and was calm for a very long time since 1937.That could be change and I believe we must change it to let the authorities know we mean business.Alterntives methods must be use to get our message over.
    Prime Minister David Thompson You are a let down as a Prime Mnister and you,two mouth Chris Sinckler,stupid Dennis Kellman,mutant Esther Byer -Suckoo,the funny guy Richard Sealy and the rest are going to be one term ministers.

    I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC LABOUR PART AGAIN.
    IT IS A SHAMELESS PARTY.


  38. Negro man everyone knows that I love to lime with the men on the block;

    And I find that nobody is frighten like before to give an opinion although it might not be what other persons believe.

    The reason why I mention this is because it will be WAR if Ms. McClean and crew dont do what is needed! I myself have been seeing more and more Guyanese;

    A day I wanted something to drink, seeing that I was in Britton’s Hill I went into the very same minimart you have referred to and lo and behold I saw the Guyanese owner and not a black employee (I dont know if he has hired any black employees as yet) ALL OF THEM WERE INDIANS you see this foolishness! I would like all black people not to buy a thing from that man!


  39. So JC I hope you turned around and didn’t buy anything from that indo guyanese minimart.

    I heard on VOB this week a caller who said he is married to a guyanese woman telling the moderator that he was on a bus recently and a guyanese woman (seems like an indian ) was told off .

    About 2 or 3 men on the bus told her that these guyanese women coming here are bare whores and that they only break up families and they should go back to guyana.

    Frankly I am glad this is coming out becuase we on the blogs have been warning the last government and now this one that resentment is building against the large number of guyanese and the nasty,low life behaviour they are engaging in here in Brbados.

    Nobody took us on – so’hard ears they won’t hear……..

    I know that these indo guyanese don’t care how bad you treat them they just want to get enough money and build up enough numbers and then bajans gwine know wha God dey serving.

    The guyanese intend to stay here in the land of milk and honey and they will take all the humps and grumps if it mean getting free education and free health care and a higher standard of living.

    To hell with bajans.

    If you are still buying from guyanese and renting to them and marrying them or employing them ,then you are a traitor to your country.

    Maxine Mcclean needs to come out and speak to bajans and come clean as to what they are doing right now about this immigration situation.

    Construction workers are complaining they can’t get work,workers are getting laid off,apartment owners can’t get their rents to pay the banks.

    Look, it goin be a fedaration bout here soon as things get more serious.


  40. The tension is building I can feel it and it is not going to be nice.The authorities are sleeping.we are going to awke them with a shock.
    I AM READY TO START THE REVOLUTION ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
    We must take back this country by any means neccesarilly.The government is clowning around.
    LET GET ACTIVE.


  41. Anonymous, Negroman
    There is no met office to warn bajan of the impending hurricane about to hit us. It is one of a different nature. In fact it’s happening now and so subtle that only some of us is feeling it. Guyanese are taking over both privately and publicly. When enough of them are in strategic positions, then the volcano will erupt right in front our face. That’s why I’m so afraid and fear for my people and my country. I have plan B well in place, when the country starts to shake.
    Only God can help us now.

  42. Out of Curiosity Avatar
    Out of Curiosity

    Update:

    The issue with Josef’s Restaurant the two Guyanese women; one was laid off because her status was not regularised but apparently the other one married a Barbadian and it appears her status has been regularised!

    It appears as if the immigration visited the restaurant or that someone read that it was on the Blogs!

    On another issue, has anyone remembered the saga of the missing work permit stamp? A group of Indo Guyanese women who operate buisnesses in Gateway Mall in Tudor Street have been identified as the perpetrators. Moreover, one of the women was deported from Barbados and cannot return. These women, are well known for organising marraiges between Guyanese women and Barbadian men.

    Now that the perpretrators have been identified, I hope that the Immigration Department looks into these serious matters.


  43. Breaking News
    I understand, Antigua is deporting a large amount of illegals from that country because they are linked to the escallating rise in crime.

  44. Out of Curiosity Avatar
    Out of Curiosity

    I forgot an important update, Brian Ward white Barbadian owner of the Cliff Restaurant has hired 2 white expatriots as Managers, replacing the two blacks that were working at the establishment for a while! This white man Brian Ward racially abuses his black workers at the restaurant daily! He says the most demeaning and derogatory statements which causes his workers to be scared! He dismissed a worker recently because he was considered to BLACK for his establishment!

    I am calling for the Minister of Labour, prime Minister and those involved to look into this serious matter Moreover, black Barbadians should boycott this bastard’s restaurant!


  45. It seems Barbadians have lost interest in this immigrtion issue. However,I am not giving up the fight.
    It is distressing what I just read by Out Of Curiosity regarding the missing work permit stamp and the racial behavior of Brian Ward of The Cliff restaurant
    Out Of Curiosity it sems these white bastards could get away with murder in Barbados.It is a shame that we had black governemts for nearly 50 years and little or nothing has change in respect of racial behavior towards us blacks.We have black goverments incapable or unwilling to effectively deal with racial abuse at work places.A lotta long talk and no action.That scenario at The Cliff restaurant I am sure occurs almost daily at hotels,restaurants,stores in Bridgetown and even on construction sites.As I mentioned previously I know of cases where black workers were racially abuse by Indians & Chinese business people.We the black workers of Barbados have no one to represent us.Not the government,not the unions,Nobody to defend the rights of black workers in Barbados.
    How long must we endure this treatment.

    I hope Prime Minister David Thompson,Maxine McClean & Chief Immigration Officer Gilbert Greaves investigate this matter of the missing work permit stamp.If the Indo-guyanese women who operate businesses in Gateway Mall, Tudor Street are connected to that case action should be taken against them.I will be following that case with keen interest.I have my way of gathering information and I will get all the information I want on that particular case.The authorities please act.Negroman is watching vith keen eyes.

    ACT OR ELSE


  46. Out of curiosity/Negroman
    The more governments change the more they remain the same. These licorish politicians can take their friends to these establishments and eat free. Then they sell we out just to satisfy their egos. It is just passing the baton from one set of politicians to another. In the ends they are all in it together. ME!!!! shout for a party? I pass that stage long time


  47. If Out of Curiosity’s allegations about The Cliff Restaurant and its owner are true, and I have no reason to doubt OOC, the Department of Labour should investigate, as well as the Immigration Department. How do these expatriates get work permits? Who issues them? GOB officials. If the allegations are proven to be true, the owner of The Cliff should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law.

    These allegations should be given the widest possible publicity, not just on this forum.


  48. Anon I thought that by now you would know your girl JC;

    NOT A CENT OF MINE FOR SHITE!

    Come on Anon………..


  49. @Out of Curiosity

    The information which you have posted is concerning to the BU household. Would appreciate if you can email us with the full story!

    If at all possible and you can describe examples of specific incidents etc. Give us a credible story and we will highlight it with a couple angles which we can crosscheck.


  50. I received information from a black Guyanese friend of mines who recently was employed at the construction site of Four Seasons Resort indicated that Stephen Mac Callister a sub-contractor on the project was forced to laid off many of his black employees both Barbadians & Guyanese because an Indian sub-contractor is putting pressure on him.He also indicated not one Indo-Guyanese was laid off and the construction site is full with basically Indo-Guyanese and Chinese.How do we allow these things to continue to happen in Barbados and our authorities are not addressing these matters .
    David I will like BU to investigate this matter.I believe it is a case that should be highlighted on the blogs.Please investigate it for me.
    I have a friend who works at The Cliff Restaurant and I mentioned what I read on the blogs and he indicated that the accusations are credible.
    The case of missing work permit stamp and the Guyanese women who operate businesses in Gateway Mall in Tudor Street is also credible.I did my investigations and a source close to me also indicated that the story has credibility.
    I would like all 3 of these cases investigated.
    A key person in Barbados mentioned to me that the government is committed to implementing a strict immigration policy and definitive steps are being undertaken. I was told to hold strain again because I will soon start to see definite results.
    I hope this will come to pass

The blogmaster invites you to join the discussion.

Trending

Discover more from Barbados Underground

Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive.

Continue reading