If Phoenix crowdfunding is what Arthur Collymore is referring to, it was perfectly legal as we were in the processing of forming a non-profit. One person benefits in a Ponzi scheme. Our operation would have been a modern version of the Barbadian Meeting Turn, therefore benefiting everyone.
A Barbadian website builder named Alvin Herbert developed a website for us. It was a fraught with delays from the start. He did not deliver the finished site on time and what he delivered was a shell and it did not complete our requirements. When we complained, he removed the site from the Internet.
The police in Barbados were contacted. A Police Sergeant tried unsuccessfully to mediate the situation, but Alvin Herbert changed the terms and wanted us to pay him additional funds to complete the work. I refused and I contacted the Minister responsible for entrepreneurship who referred the matter to the Public Counsel. A complaint was filed however to date, the Tribunal has not met.
Loosing over $2000.00 and the website devastated the group’s morale and that is what caused the group to fall apart. We have not been able to get another website built as yet. If any scamming was done it was by Alvin Herbert.
I even sent a copy of the draft proposal for Phoenix Crowdfunding to the Minister (Kerri Symmonds), asking if it could become operational in Barbados. He said it was not his Ministry, but he could pass it on to the Ministry of Finance. I have not received any response from that Ministry to date.
My question for Arthur Collymore is why something to help the poor and unemployed is looked upon as a scam and why a plan to rob the Treasury of Barbados by Mark Maloney is not a scam?
On a more positive note, if anyone out here has a reasonable solution for this website, contact me. I am submitting the draft proposal for all to see. There is nothing sinister contained therein.
DONNA
RE I thought we were talking about a proposal to buy land an’ wuk um as a co-operative.
I HAD THE SAME VIEW AS YOU DID
I BELIEVE HEATHER IS MUCH TOO INTELLIGENT AND HONEST TO TRUST A PONZI SCHEME ON BAJANS.
IF SHE HAS ANY FAULT IT IS TO THINK THAT THE MULTITUDE OF LAZY BAJANS WILL WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN GETTING THEIR HANDS DIRTY OR CALLOUSED BY WIELDING A HOE OR GARDEN FORK EVEN IN A LITTLE KITCHEN GARDEN IN THIER BACKYARD.
THEY MUST BE FORGIVEN, FOR THEY HAVE PROBABLY NOT EXPERIENCED THE BLISS OF HAVING TO GO TO THE SUPERMARKET TO PURCHASE ONLY THOSE FEW ITEMS THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO GROW.
IF YOU COME ACROSS PATCHY MAMA TELL HIM FUH ME THAT THE MEDICAL ILLITERATE HAS GIVEN HIS LAST WORD ON THE PROCEEDURE TO DIAGNOSE CARCINOMA OF THE PROSTATE IN PROMINENT CANCER CENTERS IN THE COSMOS.
Forgive me if I cannot attain the same level of gravity as some as you.
I had someone’s finger up my butt within the past 5 years (true).
Is there a lawsuit here?
Sexual molestation?
THEO
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT YOUR PHYSICIAN DID THE CORRECT THING THAT IS DONE ALL OVER THE WORLD BY SANE SOUND SCHOLARS OF SURGICAL SCIENCE
TYPICALLY BENIGN HYPERTROPHY INVOLVES THE PERI-URETHRAL AREA OF THE PROSTATE, HENCE THOSE WITH BPH TEND TO HAVE URINARY RETENTION SYMPTOMS. IN SUCH PATIENTS, RECTAL EXAM WILL REVEAL AN ENLARGED BUT SMOOTH PROSTATE
CA PROSTATE TENDS TO INVOLVE THE MORE PERIPHERAL AREAS OF THE PROSTATE, AND RECTAL EXAM REVEALS A NODULAR PROSTATE
THOSE WHO HAVE DONE LOTS OF THESE EXAMS CAN EASILY DISTINGUISH THIS. I CANT BECAUSE I ALWAYS REFERRED FOLK WHO PRESENTED WITH SYMPTOMS SUGGESTIVE OF PROSTATIC HYPERTROPHY
My son’s dad gets his done every year but only by a woman doctor.
Maybe Pachamama’s doctors knew any such suggestion would have resulted in the use of the guillotine.
They wanted to preserve their finger for the next patient.
however, that I am still trying to understand how $200 gets you $22,500 when nothing is being invested to earn a return;
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HEATHER
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ABOVE BULLSHIT PUT OUT BY A BLP ASS LICKER?
FIRST TIME I AM HEARING SUCH ALLEGED WITH THE PROJECT.
EVEN A BLIND MAN LIKE RAY CHARLES OR STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE THROUGH WHAT IS BEING ALLEGED. BY ONE OF BU RESIDENT YARDFOWLS.
You clearly have a proclivity for licking and sucking. I hope you’re not seeking to fulfill your fantasies vicariously through my BU character.🤮
HEATHER
YOU PAID $2000 FOR A WEBSITE LATER TAKING DOWN AND WOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE COST OF THE DOMAIN NAME AND WEB HOSTING ON THE INTERNET.
IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE WEBSITE CONTENT YOU CAN DO THE WEBSITE HOSTING TO BRING IT BACK ONLINE. YOU COULD USE THE FORMER DOMAIN NAME OR GET A NEW ONE ALSO FROM GODADDY.COM.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF THE WEBSITE AND ITS CONTENT.
Heather was very deliberate to advise the blog in her submission the website was not built to specification submitted. Steupse.
Some of you do not read.
“Phoenix Crowdfunding Barbados is a crowdfunding platform. Is similar to what was known traditionally as the meeting turn in that all persons will receive a payout. The differences are that the structure is different as the contributors are
strangers, only one contribution is made, the system is a rotational one, the system is not manual but automated on a website on the Internet.”
I don’t make up things; but it proves how much the noisemakers read or don’t.🤭
BOTH DOMAIN NAME (NAME OF WEBSITE ADDRESS) AND WEB HOSTING (TO BRING BACK ONLINE) CAN BE DONE ON GODADDY.COM
“Phoenix Crowdfunding Barbados is a crowdfunding platform. Is similar to what was known traditionally as the meeting turn in that all persons will receive a payout. The differences are that the structure is different as the contributors are
strangers, only one contribution is made, the system is a rotational one, the system is not manual but automated on a website on the Internet.”
I don’t make up things; but it proves how much the noisemakers read or don’t.🤭
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WHERE DID I READ ABOVE FROM $200 TO $22500 PONZI SCHEME?
YOU ARE AS HONEST AS MIA MOTTLEY WITH HER. PROSECUTION THREATS OF MARK MALONEY AND CHRIS SINCLAIR ETC. ALLEGED EVIDENCE WITHIN THE RED BAG.
Because you have eyes and multiple degrees go read the RH document. And stop posting without reading.
Heather was very deliberate to advise the blog in her submission the website was not built to specification submitted. Steupse.
Some of you do not read.
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HEATHER ALSO SAID THE WEBSITE WAS TAKEN DOWN WITHOUT PERMISSION.
SOME OF US DON’T READ.
If the web builder has control of the dain dashboard what does it suggest?
@Heather
Please clarify if you can.
More the reason to build your own site, you have control, but she should have asked the dude to pass the admin dashboard to her, then change the password, most people don’t have to ask, the understanding is that function belongs to the website owner…..and later you can customize to suit your agenda…
@Heather I am sorry that you have met with these difficulties in your project.
I read the Phoenix Crowd Funding document that you posted for download and I would like to offer some comments that I hope you will find helpful. The section titled Problem Statements is coherent, but the section titled Overview of the Solution makes no sense to me. I have post graduate qualifications in business and finance and have been working with internet ecommerce since 1993.
You say that “Phoenix Crowdfunding Barbados is a crowdfunding platform” but that is not the business model that you are employing. The crowdfunding business model is to fund a project by soliciting many relatively small amounts of money from a large number of people, typically via the internet. It never includes a capital payout to the people from whom you have solicited money. In crowdfunding what they get ranges from a warm feeling and an email thank you, up to goods or services of the same value as the money they contributed; never more.
What you have proposed here is, as you say, “similar to what was known traditionally as the meeting turn…” but your financial projections do not make sense to me. You say that for each person “only one contribution is made” in the amount of US$100… but in a meeting turn you must make multiple contributions on a weekly or monthly basis for it to function properly. The only thing that you must remember is that the money paid out can never exceed the money contributed. In order to reach the US$24,100 payouts that you anticipate, if payouts are made on a monthly basis, then you need 241 people participating, each of whom contributes US$100 each month into the future. In order for each member to receive one payout the program would have to run with no dropouts, missed contributions, or deaths among the membership for 241 months… that is 12 years and 1 month. At the end of this period each member will have contributed US$24,100, and been paid out US$24,100. There is no financial magic, just simple arithmetic.
However, in the real world, there will be deaths, fraud, hard times, and a myriad of other obstacles to the flawless function of the system over a 12 year period.
It is possible to manage a meeting turn via a website, but the cost of building, deploying, maintaining and upgrading the website would have to be deducted from the payouts, so each member would receive less than they had contributed. Such a website, since it has to manage and safeguard personal financial information, needs to be built with the same level of security as a bank website, and bank websites cost millions of dollars. Of course the banks have more than 241 customers, so the Phoenix website would cost less, but any credible tech company that actually has the capacity to deliver a secure financial website will quote you in the hundreds of thousands. There is no doubt in my mind that ALL the quotations you received were fraudulent if they were for less than $100k, so you can count your lucky stars that you were only defrauded of $2k.
I hope that you find this information helpful because I know that you mean well.
I’m sorry Heather, my arithmetic is faulty. 241 months… is 20 years and 1 month
‘There is no doubt in my mind that ALL the quotations you received were fraudulent if they were for less than $100k, so you can count your lucky stars that you were only defrauded of $2k.”
the cost of website security….and you DO NEED IT…for all the stalkers out there…is really horrendous.
Who help yuh buy a big guts horse doan help yuh feed um. Sips 🍵.
EnuffOctober 6, 2021 7:33 PM
Who help yuh buy a big guts horse doan help yuh feed um. Sips 🍵.
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Yuh know Enuff sometimes yuh make sense
So much so I suggest u send that comment as a message to Mottley
Wuh dat is what I know. I know nothing about e-commerce, website building or security, but I know old time stuff like meeting turns and they pay out only what you put in. It is simply a way of saving without interest. All one can expect is eventually to receive the sum total of what one “throws in”.
There is no investment and so there can be no return on investment. It is not a money tree and so the money cannot grow.
And even so any investment that guarantees a return is suspect. Investments are risky by nature to various degrees.
A guaranteed return on an investment of such astronomical proportions is unknown on this earth.
Such a return takes place only at a casino or lottery booth. This is known as gambling. It cannot be guaranteed.
I assumed we were pooling resources to buy land and work it as a co-operative and that the website was about committing one’s self to investing a certain amount in the endeavour, not actually transferring the money. In other words, just a site for organizing the co-operative towards the acquisition of land for the agricultural project proposed in a previous submission.
My bad!
Dear Heather
I guess I made and ass out of u and me.
Oh dear!
ac/angelacox/mariposa
Well yesterday all 7 Independent Senators supported the constitution amendment bill, paving the way for Bdos to move to a Republic. After snatching 30+ wigs and your weave in 2018 despite the many arrows thrown at her–LEC, tax exemption and the Stadium Rd onslaught, I don’t think PM Mottley needs any advice from me. I read on the other blog that she/BLP got 71% of the votes on the BU poll. That % is close to the 73% achieved in the 2018 election; and, if true, portends unpleasantries for your digestive system. With comments on BU dominated by the likes of you and others opposed to the government, clearly ‘less is more’. It therefore appears that Verla may more be in need of such advice than Mottley.🤣
Interesting to note Senator Caswell took an opposite position to the official Oppositon Leader Atherley. This is a big reason PDP has not gotten lift off.
Enuff
Independent in name only. There is absolutely nothing “independent” about them. Not in Barbados. Has never been.
How do you sleep at night being so committed to a party regardless of circumstances. How independent is your own thinking.
David
Could we have expected anything more from this pretense of an Opposition.
In the first place the socalled Leader should only be led. And he who is being led should have been Leader. How can one lead without courage. And the titular leader has none.
@David
Interesting to note Senator Caswell took an opposite position to the official Oppositon Leader Atherley. This is a big reason PDP has not gotten lift off
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You keeping me from my morning walk! Did the PDP exist prior to the last Election? The PDP is an afterthought of the Bishop when he made the money grab ably assisted by the PM. You may recall that the PM had some thought of changing the Constitution following the BLP’s overwhelming victory to allow the Party with the largest number of votes after the victorious Party to become the official Opposition. Atherley saved her from that predicament when he was overlooked in the “many hands make light work” cabinet.
Having been given the brass ring, Atherley came up with a name but that doesn’t make a Party. My reading of Caswell says he has an independent streak and he won’t be reined in by the Bishop or anyone for that matter so if his position runs contrary to the Bishop’s that’s par for the course.
Bottom line the PDP exists on paper after the next Election when Atherley is put out to pasture it will be kaput.
@Sargeant and Pacha
The good thing is that our Senator Franklyn has been able to capitalize at a personal level but the national demand for relevant opposition dissent remains unfulfilled.
Seems like I missed the BU poll as well. When was such a poll taken?
David
The goodly Senator enjoys being contrarian, or comes down on whatever side appears popular? Senator Drakes abstained.
PDP would get a lift off if he had agreed
PDP was DED from birth
Pachamama
I sleep very well. You can continue to dwell in Wonderland. My reference to the Independent senators had nothing to do with their independence. In 2018 I found it strange when 2 former board members under the DLP were appointed. Then I read an article in the newspaper which prompted me to go to the Constitution and it reads:
“Seven Senators shall be appointed by the Governor General, acting in his discretion, by instrument under the Public Seal, to represent religious, economic or social interests or such other interests as the Governor-General considers ought to be represented”.
Enuff
Here it is. On the one hand you support the misguidance of republicanism, elsewhere. And on the other, you qoute from a monarchical constitution to justify a political game play which has and will always keep the status quo as is. Therein lies a stark contradiction informed by political obedience to party. A contradiction of which cultural development is impossible.
@David, in everything we do these days the level of scrutiny is intense and when we specifically engage the public by offering our ideas (plans, thoughts, beliefs) for their consumption we MUST take the lashes when we screw up even as we court love and acceptance.
As I said prior I did not engage with or read the original Cole team proposal but the brickbats re the contract disputes with the site developer caused me to have grave misgivings on the level of competence brought to the project.
That is not a critique of Ms Cole’s character or integrity simply a statement of fact that there was NOT proper work done on the foundational areas to make the project a success … and reading above 1) the apparent disconnect by some bloggers about exactly what was being proposed and/or confusing different offerings from Ms Cole and 2) the commentary by @PLT, it’s clear the project did indeed lack the needed gravitas.
I repeat what I said earlier: often projects/problems are brought to the public TOO EARLY … so I wonder if that’s a deliberate ploy by many to get further input from public comments, to drive interest for new investors or some other marketing thrust!
It is not enough to simply mean well or to be honest we must carefully offer solid and purposeful solutions that meet or exceed the standard tests for presentation … as we saw even very experienced businessmen make colossal mistakes (Baloney for sale anyone!) … but every such careless crash creates more doubt to a weary and too wary public!
BTW, have you been following that Thernos case … the former CEO of Safeway (big supermarket chain in US) called Ms Holmes one of the most charismatic business folks he had meet … and I recall another article where one of her professors at Stanford (where she was a chemical engineering wunderkind before she drooped out to open her later to be known SCAM blood testing startup) sang her praises well.
The point simply is that everyone is awesome until they aren’t… we can’t go by their charisma, smarts or technical nous … only by the facts of the product/program.
That Theranos debacle is unfortunately par for course in modern society where investment funds abound and lots of truly smart, very charming (beautiful, sweet mouth, dynamic) young wunderkinds are eager to be ‘influencers’ for our attention.
We have to all do our ‘due diligence’.
I gone.
@Dee Word
Yes, this is why the blogmaster’s first comments were about DD re:website builder and establishing a team with a cross section of skill sets to cover all bases. Hopefully the exchanges will prove useful to Heather and team.
Pachamama
Again, I doan dwell in Wonderland. You need a reference point. Look that quack 3-degree called me dishonest then turned around and posted a whole documentary about Ponzi schemes and pyramids. This here back broad.
Pachamama
Again, I doan dwell in Wonderland. You need a reference point. Look that quack 3-degree called me dishonest then turned around and posted a whole documentary about Ponzi schemes and pyramids. This here back broad.
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BLP ASS LICKER.
MY POSTING A VIDEO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH substantiating YOUR POINT.
AMAZING YOU DONT JUMP OUT THE SHADOWS TO CASTIGATE MARK MALONEY AND YOUR BLP FELLOW CORRUPT PARTNERS IN CRIME.
@ Enuff
“With comments on BU dominated by the likes of you and others opposed to the government, clearly ‘less is more’.
Didn’t you dominate BU with only anti- government posts prior to Elections 2018.
You are all the same.
Still waiting to hear from you if Maloney bid on the vaccines. After all you said it was most “ telling” he never bid on anything from your twin. BLPDLP same thing.
@ Pacha wants to know how you manage to sleep ; it’s more like where is your shame. Sleep on , you shameless……………you of all people should not be critical of anybody on BU being partisan because your are in the same BLPDLP boat.
He has the rare ability of taking unrelated facts, tying them together, patting himself on the back and taking a victory lap.
Meanwhile, spectators can only ask ‘WTH did I just witness?’
“you of all people should not be critical of anybody on BU being partisan because your are in the same BLPDLP boat.
leave them…every time they come up with some hare brained scheme to save face….it BLOWS UP and they Fall FLAT ON THEIR FACES….🤣🤣🤣..i have been laughing all day….jokes…a lot of people are not amused, but ah can’t help meself….
all the others are just empty heads who are their own worse enemies…lol
we are getting to enjoy quite a show…..can’t wait for the ending.
“Less is more”. All ah wunna add up don’t test the soundness of ONE post from me. Take this blogpost for example, not one ah wunna knew what Phoenix Crowd Funding was about but jumped all over the comments talking piss and ’bout scams. Wunna don’t argue facts, pure speculation, conjecture, misinformation, disinformation and plain lies. When I drop my facts wunna can’t dispute, but resort to cussing me. Support the clown Wura above then question my integrity. 🤣🤣🤣
So what about the vaccine SCAM where yall DID NOT NEED ANY VACCINES….but got an agent running trying to buy COUNTERFEIT …St. Lucia said they did not need any just then, but apparently were coerced, Bahamas said they did not need an they had a batchy, Barbados had DONATIONS…so what yall needed an agent running hither and yon for….now it’s a court case…..big scandal..
I was strictly dealing with the dude charging only 2K for building a website that could run into thousands, that Heather, if she had the time could build herself, and save herself grief, lots of money, learn a new skill and keep people out of her business, and the fact that he did not deliver says lots about him…..
..people start endeavors all the time, and unless someone says they got robbed by the Phoenix entity…..what you are hinting at is a DUD
but i can tell you how many Black people and others got robbed by the thieving lawyers, pretend leaders and frauds in the minority community…people are still making videos….
building a website that could run into thousands, ..as PLT rightly said it can run into tens of thousands of dollars because it’s not only about building the website…if someone told me they are charging me 2K one, i would look at them as very strange before running….but that is because i know and have been exposed to people who have those specialized skills…and understand what’s required…
as a billion dollar project manager, ya should share what you know, if anything, with her….i did.
but knowing you as the little foul shrimp that ya are, you would look to poke fun and ridicule…ya just good for throwing in a vat of boiling water..
Enuff,
As usual, I, the “damaged goods” had no problem admitting my error. I scanned rather than read and missed crucial details.
I admit that I am still struggling with the fact that somebody could believe that $200 could grow to $ 22,500 without any identifiable effort to grow it by investment or WORK.
I really do not know what to make of this at all.
I am feeling that familiar disoriented Alice in Wonderland kinda feeling I have experienced from watching the last five years of Donald Trump in action.
I guess I read sense into nonsense because I do recall seeing the reference to a “meeting turn” and ignoring the obvious signal that it was not the agricultural proposal of the last submission.
My question is – when did it morph into this tangled mess or did I misread the last submission as well?
I am constantly having to recalibrate my preconceived notion that all human beings are capable of a degree of rational thought.
My brain is still reeling from this one.
Over half a century on this earth and I managed to escape this kind of madness.
Have I been lucky or unlucky to remain in ignorance for so long?
I think lucky. I could not have survived fifty years of knowing the mess that is the human “thought” process.
WTH???????
@ Enuff, you are in the same boat as Mr. Collymore into personal attacks. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
If the Ministry of Finance had expressed interest in getting it off the ground to help Barbadians, would you be singing this song today? Your Party seems dead set against the poor people of Barbados getting economic empowerment. What has happened to the plan to let householders sell energy on the grid? There has been no mention of it for moths but almost every major plantation is equipped for the industry. It looks like the memo left out the households. Is this the latest heist while everyone is distracted by Covid-19?
@ David, we have nothing. We have to obtain another domain name Alvin registered it.
There has got to be some way to do this. Does anyone recall how the Civic operated?
Heather…everyone has a different way of setting up business ventures, you are going the transparent route because it involves the public as investors, but you may want to only tell your stakeholders the important stuff, and keep everything else closer to ya chest, because ya see the little government pimps are all over the details and they are only good for sabotaging Black people.
I did mine differently, the consortium of crooks had no clue that the last two years were spent waiting for them and the sellout frauds in the parliament and the additional criminal minorities across the Caribbean who it is known would redirect their thieving gaze to OUR continent, ably assisted by the frauds who are so dirty, they would give them right of way and leave the descendants to look on……they just could not help their criminal selves..it’s their last gasp and they have gotten so BRAZEN they believe they can use AFRIKA to set up a brand new currency system for themselves across the Americas and STILL have Black/Afrikan people in the region under their feet with their knees planted firmly on their necks…..
so it was easier to understand what to do in that regard and of course because of those known as empty headed as*holes and the imps and pimps on BU, i was not going to post anything to the blog…chose which information you want publicized and make sure it’s nothing that can be used as a weapon against you.
..the negro will never learn, being captive runs in their blood streams.
“There has got to be some way to do this. Does anyone recall how the Civic operated?”
that model would have been devised from half century ago and born completely out of frustration and desperation, with survival the only goal, like now, but this is a different time, calling for different measures, best to develop your own system to match the current social and financial environment, you may want to ask PLT kindly for some tips, he has a vast range of knowledge about things financial…and i doubt he will refuse…can’t hurt to ask.
just remember going forward that website building has many moving parts AFTER the site is built…so prepare for the costs.
HEATHER
SEE IF THIS HELPS => Network for Good marketing@networkforgood.com
CONTACT THEM AND TELL THEM YOUR STORY AND SEE IDF THEY CAN HELP
What happened to the agricultural venture. This proposal makes no sense.
@ Heather
I hope you understand that in our culture as @Pacha implies, when we try a venture and it fails, the vultures fly over us and try to pick every piece of flesh from off our bodies. Rest assured , if your venture had succeeded, the same analysts and know it alls, would be on BU praising you in abundance. They would even be bold face enough to say that they were with you all along. These criminals did the same thing with @ PLT’s Home Stamp. They criticized it left right and centre but when their political masters , stole it in broad daylight, they did not say a word but came here on BU pretending that they had endorsed the idea.
Th same frigging thing was done to Rihana . When she was made an Ambassador (Cultural), they balled for murder and said she dressed skimpily and was not a good role model. They really expected her to fail and fade. However, once she became a huge success , and started top open her pocket book, she became “our Riri” and is now a national icon.
Listen my sister, if you try planting something, a neighbour would pass and tell you : “dem can’t grow there.” However if it ever catcesh root and start to bear fruit, that same neighbour would tell you what a great idea it was and probably end up consuming more than you. Press on sister……press on.
Peace
@William
Some criticism must be seen as constructive. Advice to Heather to ensure rigorous due diligence and co-opt persons with requisite skill sets to assist is constructive. No need to parade on your soap box. You will recall the PLT mentioned he consulted with many professionals when he went about honing his welcome stamp program.
Catches root
@ Donna, stalled. I did not know that it would be so difficult in obtaining Agricultural land. The tender has expired for Todd’s. The statement was that they are waiting on the Ministry of Agriculture.
I did the FEED training program. We should, but heaven knows when as no timeline was given receive a 2 acre plot.
Someone sent me some details yesterday for PPP that is for Agriculture, We will apply.
Road blocks, road blocks, road blocks!
@ David
Call my contribution whatever you like. That’s your right my Brother.
@ GP thanks!
HEATHER
I CONTACTED THEM ABOUT SOMETHING I AM DOING AND THEY GAVE ME GOOD ADVICE AND THEY PUT ME ON A MAILING LIST AND SEND ME INFO ON THEIR WEBINARS ON FUNDING
@William, brother why u conflate things like that re the 8:45 AM submission.
Envy is a well etched stain on many a Bajan fah truth but also in Jamaicans, Trinis, Georgians where they say u now reside and all others far and near … so on that we agree that Ms. Cole got some envious lashes but come now, is her proposal meritorious or a mere pretty idea ??? … As @PLT set out it’s fundamental a non-starter!
Every blogger here – the sharp tongued and those like a Dean Cumberbatch – have presented excellent ideas or commentary and ALSO got hot lashes when they offered opinions that were not considered sound!
So yes one presses on in the face of harsh criticisms but good sir no one forces us to prostrate ourselves in this public forum, so if u present what was described above as “[t]his proposal makes no sense, then please let’s cut the sweet platitudes and seek CLARITY.
This is not first or second form when our nice essays which were full of grammar flWs and illogic are given nice encouragement…. no.
We are all experienced in various fields and some very successful leaders in business … one such leader @PLT so kindly dissected the proposal for Ms. Cole who can contact him to get the free advice he has offered.
The proposal as offered is NONSENSICAL… so please let’s stop massaging Ms Cole … there are excellent spas in Bim (one in St.George comes highly recommended) and if she needs a pleasant back rub (or ego massage) then seek such there… don’t come to this forum with half baked ideas and expect to be hailed a great chef to be!
The lady is a sweetheart by all accounts but what the badword does THAT have to do with an unworkable business proposal… does Ms Cole know how many business fail (ratio wise) in first year or two… let the lady get serious input from @PLT … the platitudes are misplaced at this time.
And BTW @PLT’s proposal withstood withering critique because it was valid and had sound metrics … there is NO comparison to this one … NONE atall.
I gone.
Aha @David, alas I saw ur response after my ‘soap box’ dismount.
Almost fell as I did … so u would have saved me that had I seen yours 😇.
@Ms. Cole, please contact @PLT who has offered his advice and expertise (as I read him) freely.
Gone, gone.
@WURA, I will reach out to PLT.
Yes…you can’t lose….there is a lot to learn, knowledge is helpful.
@Dribbler that was harsh. It is alright for everyone to be critical but what have you tried to implement?
No matter what was said, it is not my intention to give up. I dont run away. I am determined!
Long overdue in Barbados are institutions whereby the people can help dig themselves out of poverty. Everything does not have to have a profit motive behind it.
Charities run by the rich are created to make them richer or exist or the public purse. Barbadians should not have been placed in a position to depend of the Sandy Lane charity for survival, as happened earlier this year.
Offer more than negative criticism to the project there is a lot of work to be done.
@ Enuff,
What has your government done lately to help the poor and middleclass of Barbados?
@Ms Cole, respectfully … no I was NOT harsh (as being non constructive) … my. coments were direct and went to the core of getting you to recognize your proposal needed work.
Definitely @PLT will guide you well.
And if u perceive that I have to roll out what I have or have not done in order to accept or not my purposeful (harsh in your view) comments then … bon chance…. look for the sweet remarks den.
I NEVER demean or dismiss … your proposal made no sense thus a label of ‘nonsensical’ is not harsh … maybe I should have said it as PLT did: how do you guarantee that one payment of $100 can get to your funds goal? (Clearly that was badly written in your proposal .. was the doc vetted properly) How does that practically work over many months???
This is the real world @Heather … come with well detailed offers… we all get the fact that we can do better…. but simply saying that does not a miraculous operation make.
Good luck to you!
Unfortunately some have the unproductive habit of chasing anonymous personalities and ignore the substantive issue at hand. What Heather needs to do is take the feedback and use it to deliver on her plan. This is the learning or takeaway from the blog.
Heather
The truth clearly hurts! From your mouthings and know-it-all attitude I never fathomed you conceptualising a Ponzi scheme. Who de cat likes he licks tho, so you need not worry the BU massive will big you up even though only 6 of them showed any interest and 3 asked for the zoom link. Go figure.
@ Donna
I don’t know if it’s similar to what Ms Cole is proposing, but, I’ve heard from two persons involved and seen advertised, about a system in which people invest different sums of money and their ROI is, in some cases, at least 200%.
For example, if I invested $500, I could earn as much as $5,000 or more, depending on how many people I introduce to the system and the amounts they invest.
Don’t mind Foul Enuff…if he had a single clue what i was doing he would try to demean it and turn it into some kinda political poop…..but his mind can’t stretch to such heights without SNAPPING, so he gotta wait impatiently. for rollout..
@Heather October 8, 2021 9:49 AM
@WURA, I will reach out to PLT
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peter@remoteworkbarbados.com
Artax,
Soon collapses.
Artax,
In a ponzi scheme the first round of “investors” usually get their money.
Thought I commented yesterday. But be careful when the return seem too great. There is probably a fair amount of risk involved.
A next thing you should keep your eyes open for is affinity fraud, where the
seller appear to share similar interest or traits.
At the start of covid, I saw a number of black individuals pushing trading stocks. They appeared overnight and disappeared as well.
Don’t get greedy..
Opportunity for some.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/10/09/pm-touts-new-land-water-initiatives-to-boost-farming/
@Heather
“What has your government done lately to help the poor and middleclass of Barbados?”
At the least, shielded them from your Ponzi scheme by not giving it their stamp of approval.🤣🤣🤣
TheO
If you talking about traders here on bu this one still in the game
@J2
Not talking about BU regulars. I found they are pretty good. In fact, I would like some of the guys to open up more.
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