Submitted by Paula Sealy
There was an old Ellerslie boy,
Whose time on the radio I used to enjoy.
At 65 from Starcom he promptly retired, Just six months later by the PM to get hired.
Fearing the spread of COVID,
Along came a plum job for David.
So now all of his Brasstack candour,
Has been bought by the highest bidder.
We know everyone is not Sir Johnny,
All cannot be fortunate like Farley.
And being on the back bench you see,
Isn’t for every stinging Bee.
Remember the rage,
That had Payne on the front page?
Hinkson didn’t make a sound,
So he hasn’t lost as much ground.
Now if my bed was made in St Thomas,
And Sharon was stop every Christmas.
I’d make time to enjoy my last full parliamentary session,
Before the bell tolls for the next general election.
Cause when the tide goes out,
No matter how hard you holler and shout.
Or if you have not a single doubt,
Some will lose their seats after the count.
It is now common to see,
MPs frequently on CBV TV. But with good reason,
Cause it is the silly season.
Some ain’t able speaking Medic-ally,
To get up and canvass daily. Soon the ones on the Edge,
Or the top of the Hill may lose their privilege.
Santia says she is a lioness.
But Vineyard’s bes’,
Is coming to tes’.
I hope he prays at St. Philip The Less.
His pal from the union in Harmony Hall, Is not one to take a fall. You see Toni is sure to contes’, Whether you call her Moore or Less.
What is a good MP?
That is hard to see.
Since they are not plenty,
Expect more whistles and calls for a penalty.
Last of all I will miss Caswell,
That man always gave them good hell.
By now he must already know,
That soon he’ll be home often to play with Snow.
@ Donna
My dispute with WARU-War-on-U, arose when she referred to SVG as “that little backward shithole, lead by shithounds,” and “Vincentians are way too simpleminded.”
I responded by ‘saying,’ “One may not be fond of Ralph Gonsolves, or agree with the situation concerning the young lady, …….but to refer to St. Vincent as “that little backward shithole” and Vincentians as being “way too simple minded,” is unacceptable, especially against the background of the disgust these same people expressed at Trump calling Haiti and Africa “shit-hole countries.”
The following is how she responded…… and note her obvious contortions.
Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service January 29, 2018 9:16 PM #: “Art…FYI Vincentians are simple people, I have relatives there, they are not boastful and braggart as Bajans..they lead very simple lives, they do not pretend to be what they are not…that is being simple and comfortable with what they got, no matter how little..”
Donna, it’s also interesting to note that, in her ‘about turn’ on SVG, Ms Delusional ‘said’ on the same blog, she spent most of a night doing research and actually contributed something useful to the people of SVG, which, according to her, was “actually producing RESULTS.”
When I challenged her to reveal the nature of that contribution, she coped out, as she usually does……. and ‘said,’ “it’s between the people of SVG and her.”
She wanted to give the impression she was able to infiltrate “that little backward shithole” and “MOBILIZED” those “simple minded” Vincentians to form a “movement to “bring down the sleazy, abusive government in SVG.”
Bear in mind, Gonslaves won the last general elections.
The archives will definitely INDICATE WARU-War-on-U is the REAL DUNCE here.
who gives a shit….and i told you one parent of mine is Vincentian….and i don’t suck up to piece shit black human rights violators…and wannabe diktators…….ya should hear what i told a Jamaican judge about himself. on FB…suck it up….there is nothing special about your feelings for St. Vincent…my bloodline runs through EVERY CARIBBEAN ISLAND.
yall are too smallminded and like to suck up to colonial titles, even when the holders are destroying Black people….it’s CALLED IGNORANCE…. that has never and will never impress me…..
@ Donna,
The failed state that our UK friend prophesised will come into being so long as individuals like you continue to hit the wrong targets. I confess to being bemused and dumbfounded why someone as intelligent as you continues to ignore the elephant in the room and it’s not WURA-War-on-U.
You are better than this. Is it now acceptable to tell someone to “Piss off!” Good God!; I’m out of here!!!
If you guys want to beat Mia, there are a number of items that you can you touch on. To be interpreting photos is (in my opinion) a waste of good time.
@ Theo,
It’s my bedtime. Sorry mate, I can’t agree with you. It’s all about imagery and projection. She is making an attempt at standing aloof from her mere subjects as if she were the anointed one. Why has she draped herself in that scarf-like clothing? Subliminal imagery is subtle but powerful.
Enjoy the night. We agree on many things, not all.
It’s a good thing you don’t read my contributions.
But, remember, it’s you who brought up the ‘Yugge Farrell blog.’ And, that’s where YOUR IGNORANCE was blatantly EXPOSED.
I don’t scroll with my eyes closed, if something catches my eye, ya can guarantee i will read and comment, unfortunately it’s always something you happen to post at the tiem..
TLSN …don’t tell them a thing, let them continue wasting time, they got a lot of it…..while people are forging ahead…..
Tsln your puerile attempts at attacking Ms Mottley will fall flat as usual.Ms Mottley is highly respected in Barbados and regionally, certainly head and shoulders over a clown like you.The majority of us who live here know that Ms Mottley is doing her best in trying times with this pandemic.The last thing we need is a clown in the UK trying to score cheap political points for your clueless party the DLP Bajans generally ain, t buying what you selling.Give it a rest..I gone.
the majority of yall are Slave minded..Mia said so on ITV UK……and IRRATIONAL….there is no contest…..look how you forgot aht already….
The blame for the current mess lies with the BAMP president and radical lawyers (like this person from Jamaica) who are stirring up our population with slogans like “freedom of choice” and sowing doubt about the wisdom of Corona vaccination.
How long will our government tolerate this scandalous misconduct? Why are these people not in jail yet? Why are vaccinated tourists being quarantined for days while radical locals agitate against vaccination and make local hotel staff to miss their vaccination? Are there racist prejudices against tourists in general behind this agitation?
“he should start a blog and see how many turn up..”
As Theo would write, “last/last.”
I’m baffled as to why you’re so OBSESSED with blogs.
Why should I start a blog and what would it achieve, other than providing another forum for people to discuss and present their opinions on issues?
Kemar Saffrey did not have to “start a blog” to assist the homeless, he founded ‘Barbados Alliance to End Homelessness,’ instead.
Take Kammie Holder for example, he is an environmentalist and ‘Advocacy Director of the Future Centre Trust.’
How about founder and director of ‘Nature Fun Ranch,’ Corey Lane? Through his venture, he has been able to assist several young people in Barbados. On Saturday, March 30, 2019, he became the youngest individual to be awarded with an Anthony N. Sabga Caribbean Award for Excellence, for his work Public and Civic Contributions to Barbados.
Everyone in Barbados knows about the exploits of unsung heroine Aunty Olga Lopes-Seale…. and her ‘Children’s Party’ co-host, Carson Small. who worked with the ‘visually impaired.’
Look at what Winston Clarke and ‘Barbados Concerned Citizens Against Mandated and Coerced COVID vaccination’ achieved by their protest march on August 7.
And, retired social worker, George Griffith, is the Coordinator of the newly established ‘Elder Care Companion Programme.’
It just goes to show one DOES NOT have to “START A BLOG” to ADVOCATE or INITIATE change, contribute to a societal cause, or help their fellow man/woman.
Unlike you, who PREFER to HIDE behind the ‘cloak of anonymity’ and come on BU to talk about writing UNNAMED books, being a member of some UNIDENTIFIED movement or achieving some UNKNOWN objective, while EVADING calls to present PROOF………. those individuals were BUSY ‘putting their hands to the plow’ and can ACTUALLY brag about ACHIEVING, REAL, DOCUMENTED OBJECTIVES. It’s there not only for Barbados, but the entire world to see.
For varying reasons, the majority of BU’s contributors, contribute to BU using pseudonyms. As such, because they may not DIVULGE information about their personal endeavours, which may reveal their identities, DOESN’T mean they’re NOT ACTIVELY INVOLVED in activities to advocate change
So, while you’re on BU, EVERY DAY, WASTING TIME calling people dunces, ignorant, ‘fowl slaves,’ identifying who you “don’t like or trust,” trying to convince the forum you’re ALWAYS CORRECT…..REPEATEDLY mentioning “stinking minorities thieves and the blackface traitors in parliament stealing from the Treasury and pension fund….not my job to save the slaves… I have better things to do…..they better don’t think they can pull that shit on my children or grandchildren or they will have me to deal with….they had better keep their lowlife selves off the continent and our ancestral lands”……
………… and ADMITTING to “MAKING UP THINGS, just to make things interesting,”………
……….. Saffrey, for example, “has better things to do,” looking for creative methods to solicit financial assistance, planning and strategizing for the homeless.
However, I’ll admit there are occasions when you make good contributions.
The challenge is for you to tell BU what you’ve achieved after being on BU for over nine (9) years. Unless you believe repeating the same warmed over soup is an outstanding achievement?
Yes Talking Loud and Saying Nothing,
It is acceptable when dishonest people like you come telling me that I should not defend myself from a PROVEN FRAUD AND LIAR LIKE WURA.
You have said not one world about her lies and unwarranted nasty insults but you bring your ass here telling me what I should say and feigning outrage at MY behaviour?
All I said to that wicked witch is that Barbados is no more horrible a place to live than where she lives and that unleashed a torrent of abuse which you apparently find totally acceptable.
Again, I say PISS OFF! People like you make my stomach sick!
And cyah yuh ass too!
Blasted fraud!
Pull up the archives, Mr. Selector! Assassinate the character!
The “Pulveriser” getting pulverised!
Murdaaaaaah!
Pity she en got nuh shame. She will continue as though the archives have not been published.
And so will her enablers.
No different from Donald Trump and the Trumpists!
Sickening!
Donna is a scavenger…if she feels left out, she will go with the flow, but if she feels jealous she will attack and jealousy is a tradmark, jealous of my writings, of Pacha’s writing.., even if IT’S IRRATIONAL….and think she has more power than she does…..if she had spent more time on BU…would have realized i can go on for days on end, but because she is so irrelevant….add nothing much of value to anything on BU unless someone else brings up a topic…does not initiate anything that would stimulate…..yet to write a blog for others to read and absorb…..I have written at least one go look for that in the archives……..she thinks am fair game, wrong am busy and ya don’t have that kind of power, i said it twice……everyone pulverizes you when they get annoyed…
bring something of value to the blog and impress someone, even if it’s temporary..
btw…i have been called liar and fraud, oh and racist, on here so many times over the years…..it’s does not even register…never did…so you got years to go of doing it…..so buckle up……lol
ya need to level up to impress anyone.
Barbados’ slimy employers who have MISTREATED Black workers for DECADES….know that they are lying, the only remedy for them as some of us have been saying is for the population to STOP WORKING FOR THEM, it will take time, but find other means of survival….and SHUT DOWN these wannabe slave masters, they have had a VERY LONG RUN…this is the 21st century, let the sellouts go fill the vacancies…both them and parliament rats believe they are SPEAKING TO SLAVES….
“Outspoken attorney-at-law Michelle Russell is calling on those in authority to change the narrative around COVID-19 vaccination. She believes that officials are going about the discussions in “the wrong way” while ignoring the psychological impact the conversations were having on the population.
Moreover, the Jamaica-born lawyer said some employers were “lying” that the reason they wanted staff to take the COVID-19 jab was due to health and safety concerns.
“If we are talking about the health and safety of workers, which I still do not believe is absolutely true – because there is nothing that hurts me more than hearing employers talk about the reason they want to do it, is for the health and safety of workers…
“But the ventilation systems that have been causing sickness in the environment for years have still not been fixed, people asking for proper equipment and chairs and that still has not been fixed, people who absent for too long you hear ‘when are you going to come back to work, you are inconveniencing the business’.
“And all of a sudden it is about health and safety?
“It is not true. That is why employees don’t trust what you say. That is why there is so much distrust, you have to be honest. Be honest and change the conversation from just health and safety,” insisted Russell.
She argued that if the encouragement to take the vaccine was about health and safety then equal attention should be given to the mental health of workers and the effects of this “coercion talk and the constant preaching”
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT5nrpNNlaL/
Liar liar! You have been proven to be a liar! The archives!
And I KNOW that you can go on for days, and days and days literally ad nauseum TELLING LIES! As a matter of fact, I KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT HELP IT!
But all the talk you are talking, you cannot stop people from reading what Artax has posted, where he revealed that you are a DAMN LIAR!
AND up to now you cannot bring the proof that I plagiarised your shit!
I have asked over and over and over.
NOTHING!
Now, I leave you to go on and on for days, since you think that is a worthwhile endeavour. Strange that you have nothing better to do.
But I do!
To the cliffs with the stray dog who does not need a plane ride to Canada! To the Green Garden of Envy where my bounty is too much for me to eat and then I think I shall start my book.
….it is the tieffing minorities and the blackfaced traitors in parliament…..not my job to save the slaves….i have better things to do….they had better not think they can try that shit on my children and grandchildren…..they will have me to deal with…..they had better keep off of the continent and our ancestral lands….
Ra, Ra, yuh RASSHOLE!
Murdaaaaaah!
Now you may have the last word, AGAIN!
You need it much more than I do, poor soul.
SAD.
You know i can guess what you write based solely on a couple words seen while scolling…and you STILL CANNOT WRITE A BLOG, a paper or a book….keep hating….
jealousy is one of the 7 DEADLY SINS…..
buckle up, ya have years of repeating…ask the fowl Slaves, these days they are exhausted, you are last to this party, always the bridesmaid, never the bride……..lol..
btw…i hope this is not going to be all about whether Ellis can perform or not….this is a CRISIS THAT THE GOVERNENT wasted months playing the game of who should comply with protocols and directives and who was too important to…and terrorizing the majority and blaming them for government mismanagement and incompetence……now there is way more water than flour…they are trying to play catch up…no, they wasted too much time with their ignorant little society of stupidity and now must pay the price…
what we are hearing from other jurisdictions is absolutely frightening….the people have to pay better atention…research which vaccine gives them a fighting chance, if they are so inclined, protect themselves and hope to survive this……..end of…
the talking heads are full of shit…
Am sure he is still grieving for his lost relative, so attacking Ellis is pointless and tasteless…..IT’S WRONG…
direct that to who is playing the Covid games with taxpayers money…
Listened to David Ellis on CBC TV8 News tonight and was impressed with the calm, objective and forthright manner in which he communicated his message.
I was immediately reminded of Donna’s comments:
Donna September 14, 2021 7:53 AM #: “I think Ellis may have been chosen because he has a long established relationship with the average man and woman as moderator of discussions in the public forum. I think most people respect the way he handled his job in a calm manner and allowed people to articulate their views within reasonable limits.”
“Mia probably thinks he knows how to communicate with the people and that they trust him not to feed them false information.”
It’s unfortunate that, even before Mr. Ellis was given an adequate period of time to demonstrate if he had the capability/ability to perform in his new role as ‘COVID Public Advisor,’ professionally, honestly and objectively, while fulfilling it’s mandate, people had already judged him as being ‘bribed into silence, or unqualified for the job.’
Source: Nation
Artax,
I call that adding value to the blog in Donna style.
Fair and balanced – not dangerously unhinged.
The man David Ellis has earned the right to the benefit of the doubt. Why would somebody seek to destroy his character after all these years?
We say government should bring the best people for the job. Who is better at communicating with the average Bajan and taking their views seriously than David Ellis?
Indeed, I could never have done that Brasstacks gig while remaining respectful of even the dull and ignorant.
MiA defends all god dam shit she has done in three years
Nothing new here
White Oaks and all the other no name consultants must be lol at how a country the size of a bread box can afford million dollar advisors and consultants but find it hard to pay unemployment and severance to the people
“a bread box can afford million dollar advisors and consultants but find it hard to pay unemployment and severance to the people.”
Could you please provide BU with a list of public owned entities where employees were terminated and ‘government’ is finding it hard to pay unemployment and severance to them?”
@ Donna
It seems as though some people believe adding value to the blog is making passing references about corruption on a daily basis, without bothering to provide the forum with at least one detailed, legitimate example.
Also, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but, some people always seem to approach every discussion with a preconceived ‘mind set’ that, as long as Barbadians ‘do not buy into’ their monotonous regurgitation of negativity about the island, they’re appallingly ignorant buffoons, wild savages, suffering from an illogically diagnosed ‘Bajan condition.’ And, they go on to suggest how we should respond to issues.
Those who jump on the ‘bandwagon’ to say likewise are deemed to be ‘brilliant.’
I prefer to look at situations from both sides, analyse and weight the facts before commenting, rather than jump on a ‘bandwagon’ to be overly and unnecessarily negative.
As I was scrolling through this thread, I noticed we were described as “two DUNCES that love the archives”…. which, by the way, wasn’t deemed to be character assassination.
However, while perusing the archives, I came across comments to a blog, in which the word ‘DUNCE’ was appropriately and accurately defined.
There we had an ‘extremely intelligent individual’ who, against the background of overwhelming evidence that proved otherwise, was vehemently arguing Rolerick Hinds was the duly elected representative for St. Thomas for ten years, based on the fact his billboard was located in the constituency.
Rather than CHECK to VERIFY whether the evidence presented was true or not, the individual said people living in St. Thomas told them Hinds was the representative.
@ Donna
You can judge for yourself who is actually the dunce.
May 13, 2018 11:02 AM#: “Goes to show how much you know…Enuff……What you need to do today is take a drive past the Simpson Motors used car parking lot, look to your right at the first right turn after Simpson…and a big ass sign has been there for years with his photo as representative for the area.
…I am sure you pass the sign every day on your way in and out of the Warrens area..especially if you drive up to Cost u Less or the mall in that compound..”
Enuff May 13, 2018 1:13 PM #: “Ok Well well, I guess Cynthia Forde is a fraud.”
May 13, 2018 1:31 PM #: “I am not following you though…I said Rolerick (drick) Hinds. Was Forde the MP for St. Thomas for the last X amount of years? Does she look like Rolerick (drick) Hinds the photo of the man in that 6 foot tall billboard on the road that you clearly never saw when driving by Simpson Motors? I thought an elected MP was the representative for the area and is then assigned to that area, I must be mistaken, was election called last night and I missed it.”
May 13, 2018 4:29 PM #: “Apparently Enuff thinks BLP already won the government, I warned him about counting those chickens, people fed up enough to cause him embarrassment, stop taking the electorate for granted.”
Enuff May 13, 2018 7:02 PM #: “I am trying to help but you persists with displaying ignorance, simply giving credence to the belief that you’re the cut and paste queen. Tek win!”
May 13, 2018 7:13 PM #: “Help how? I am telling the blog about the Hinds dude who was the MP for how long, who did nothing in areas of St. Thomas he represented, but collected taxpayers money for how many years anyway….
….you claimed you did not know he represented St. Thomas, making yourself look unknowledgeable, MAYBE TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A LIAR, WHO KNOWS WHAT GOES THROUGH YOU DUMMIES HEADS….which you should have then googled and cut and paste, showing us you at least knew something about Hinds…..
..instead you are telling me something about Forde must be a fraud then….which had nothing to do with what I said…..and I really don’t care who or what Forde is anyway…..
NEWSFLASH: I AM NOT LOOKING TO BE ANYONE’S YARDFOWL, I CAN THINK FOR MYSELF, YOU SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT BY NOW.
May 13, 2018 10:32 PM #: “Simple…am telling you, people who live in the area believed Hinds was their representative for years…it is not my scam, it is somebody’s scam….and somebody should investigate to make sure he has not collected money on that scam…he can’t collect my money.”
Murdaaaaah!
“Indeed, I could never have done that Brasstacks gig while remaining respectful of even the dull and ignorant.”
@ Donna
I don’t have the patience either.
It takes a special type of individual to deal with callers such as, ‘Mr. P, Mr. Straker’s Tenantry, Ms. Undecided, Tall Boy,’ Wesley, Alvin, Winnie, Maureen and Maxine, on a daily basis.
Artax,
I have never sought to be a part of any clique. I see I have now been described as a scavenger and somebody apparently agreed.
But scavengers are an essential part of any ecosystem. They clean up and recycle mess, rendering it more useful.
So Donna will happily accept the role of cleaning up the shit the unthinking “creatives” drop all over BU!
You could call me Scavenger Sue!
@ David September 19, 2021 12:34 PM
It is good to know that our Supreme Leader shares my views and uses the same expressions.
This shows once again that Mia Mottley has chosen globalisation to move our island forward and make life better for our residents. She has obviously realised that we need an investor-friendly climate that benefits everyone.
There is no honor among thieves or is there???
All we have here is the same old story ,the Duopoly is always defended be it the Bees or the Dees.
All they do is end up defending the corruption and lies that characterize the BLPDLP.
Amazingly these folks actually try to fool us they are serious with this “ friendly fire”.
It’s hilarious and makes for very good Sunday afternoon relaxation.
What will they think of next………..,,
ArtaxSeptember 19, 2021 2:52 PM
“a bread box can afford million dollar advisors and consultants but find it hard to pay unemployment and severance to the people.”
Could you please provide BU with a list of public owned entities where employees were terminated and ‘government’ is finding it hard to pay unemployment and severance to them?
Xxccccccccc
I have a job for you go check BU archives
The BU Archives will reveal that no matter the incarnation ac, Angela Cox/Skeete, Jezzebel, Maripussi etc sher is a dye in the wool DLP yardfowl who has Mottley living in her head rent free.
WS
And on you part its always the same old refrain
@ William Skinner September 19, 2021 4:27 PM
I usually ask for an explanation if I don’t understand something.
RE: “All we have here is the same old story ,the Duopoly is always defended be it the Bees or the Dees. All they do is end up defending the corruption and lies that characterize the BLPDLP.”
Are you suggesting looking at Mr. Ellis’ new appointment objectively, is “defending the corruption and lies that characterize the BLPDLP.”
RE; “Amazingly these folks actually try to fool us they are serious with this “ friendly fire”.”
Would you care to explain the above comment?
John 2
It seems as though some people believe every contributor should ‘come out with their guns blazing’ and be overly critical of the ‘government.’
Shouting ‘duopoly, criminal minority crooks and black faced parliamentarians, fowl slaves, Barbadians are appallingly ignorant,’ Barbados is a failed state,’…………… gives one immediate ‘platinum membership’ to the club.
Richie Haynes was a member of the Duopoly for how long? The same Duopoly that was so bad from 1965 yet some decide to follow a man who was part of the lies and corruption parties and others are condemned for stating their views on a blog!
@ John2
You have a valid point and I accept it as such. Haynes broke with the Duopoly and I was one who followed him. Your point is well taken.
@ Artax
As I told @ David , Ellis’ appointment is really of no concern to me.
I have used the term Duopoly for years on BU. I will continue to do so. Whatever terms others , including you , use are not my concern.
I stand by my position. It is just “friendly fire “ that I find hilarious.
Carry on smartly.
Back to @ John 2: In cricketing terms you bowled a good one at muh. Cheers !
Peace.
“
John 2 you are on the ball hitting Skinner, s long hop for six.His leader of the NDP Dr Richie Haynes came out of the Dems for many years.Yet Skinner who is pretending to be so critical of the duopoly chose to join up with Mr Haynes and we all know how that ended.Therefore all this talk of duopoly is a lot of pretence on his part as he was part of it.I gone.
@ Mr. Skinner
But, yuh know…….. I found, “Haynes broke with the Duopoly and I was one who followed him,”……. hilarious as well.
Cheers, mate……. and you “carry on smartly” as well.
DavidSeptember 19, 2021 5:00 PM
The BU Archives will reveal that no matter the incarnation ac, Angela Cox/Skeete, Jezzebel, Maripussi etc sher is a dye in the wool DLP yardfowl who has Mottley living in her head rent free
Xxccccc
JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Lawd have mercy
I pray fuh you
@ Lorenzo
Nice to hear you. I never made the West Indies so the occasional long hop is expected. It’s a real joy watching your superb bowling these days. Nobody bowls a Chinaman like you. Keep up the good work.
@ Artax
More than happy to bring a smile to your face old chap. Cheers !
WS
IMO the majority of the regulars here ( except 2) would support a third party if their thought it was VIABLE – not just because the duopoly is so bad so “try” something else it cant do no more harm.
“I have a job for you go check BU archives.”
Nah. The answer to my question cannot be found in BU’s archives.
You wrote, ““a bread box can afford million dollar advisors and consultants but find it hard to pay unemployment and severance to the people.”
And, I’ll ask you……. again,……Could you please provide BU with a list of public owned entities where employees were terminated and ‘government’ is finding it hard to pay unemployment and severance to them?
@ John 2
I think the majority get pissed off from time to time but they still see the BLPDLP as their comfort level. In all fairness, the third parties, NDP included, have not put in the time or work to move them, in any large numbers, in another direction.
You do realise that even after being slaughtered at the polls, the DLP is being seen as the “ real opposition”. Not one third party has been in a position to capitalise on that slaughter.
So, in my opinion, we get a lot of “ friendly fire “ between the two camps. Also note that Atherley’s party has not been considered although he takes home the opposition leader’s salary with all the perks.
This is the reality when all the noise subsides.
Like it or not the Duopoly is in full control. I remain convinced that they are both equally corrupt. I suggest that they have done equally well and equally badly.
There really is no difference and no serious analysis can disprove my position.
Peace.
It is called dealing with reality. This duopoly is not going anywhere in any hurry. We have the choice of rejecting every move, which will be dismissed as purely partisan, or compartmentalising, assessing each move seperately and basing our comments on the merits of that particular move.
There is never going to be a perfect government. Many here quote from Animal Farm without getting the message.
They should take a read of Adrian Green’s column today.
Changing a political culture is a longterm and complex challenge that involves changing more than political parties or politicians.
In the meantime, we can chip away at the government of the day and win a few battles along the way.
Or we can have an Animal Farm type revolution and quickly end up back at square one.
Source: Nation
William Skinner September 19, 2021 8:46 PM #: “You do realise that even after being slaughtered at the polls, the DLP is being seen as the “real opposition”. Not one third party has been in a position to capitalise on that slaughter.”
@ Mr. Skinner
I agree with you.
A few days ago I read Verla DePeiza announced that Richard Sealy is ‘Shadow Minister of Tourism’ in her ‘shadow cabinet.’ I thought a ‘Shadow Cabinet’ was appointed by the official Opposition Leader.
In my opinion, DePeiza can appoint whosoever she wants ‘to keep some noise and throw things at the wall, hoping something sticks.’
The DLP is not the official Opposition nor DePeiza the Opposition Leader. She is simply the leader of another political party, similar to how Grenville Phillips II led Solutions Barbados, Alex Mitchell and Bajan Free Party, Neil Holder and Barbados Integrity Movement or Mark Adamson and the People’s Democratic Congress.
So, what separates her and the DEMS that merits them being treated differently from those leaders and their political parties?
According to David BU, “All Barbadians accept the DLP is the effective political opposition in Barbados.”
Although I disagreed, he has a point. I wouldn’t go as far as to ‘say’ “ALL Barbadians,” because several other people hold a similar point of view as I do.
However, I’ll be the first to agree the DEMS are keeping ‘a lot more noise’ than the official Opposition Leader, Joseph Atherley, and his PdP.
When an issue arises, he comes out, engages in, according to you, “friendly fire,“ and disappears, only to resurface when an other ‘hot topic’ comes to the fore.
He has not shown any indication the PdP will be contesting the 2023 general elections. He has not named any candidates, or provided Barbadians with his vision or socio-economic policies for the future development of the island.
Similar could be said of the DLP as well.
@ Donna
Social and economic stagnation is not progress. The reality is that we have grown accustomed to this belief that we are moving when in fact we are standing very still.
We refuse to admit this and end up trying to convince ourselves that we are somewhat integral to the process when all evidence suggest we are collectively treated with serious contempt.
Once we remain contented or accept this , there would be no change and the inequalities would remain. That there is no perfect government anywhere is an acceptable and known fact . We are not seeking perfect governance , we are seeking good governance. It is a basic ingredient of true development.
Under the circumstances, fighting a global epidemic and seeing its economy decline by almost eighty percent , is a frightening reality. However one cannot deny that the current administration is trying to do its best.
However the real truth is that under both administrations, without all the problems that now exist, they allowed the inequalities and socio economic stagnation to prevail. In fact they governed in such a manner to maintain these inequalities.
In other words , even when times were good , we were treated with damn contempt. And that’s the issue.
David
Only if Ellis was politically incline and could remain as is today …………….
Nuff nuff political capital under any party or as leader of a new party / culture
IMO
@ Artax
“ He has not shown any indication the PdP will be contesting the 2023 general elections. He has not named any candidates, or provided Barbadians with his vision or socio-economic policies for the future development of the island.”
This bears out @ David’s point.
about people seeing the DLP as the real opposition. Imagine nobody is asking the official opposition leader when he’s going to announce candidates but every day they ask Depeiza.
That essentially shows that Atherley is not taken seriously. I don’t think that people remember that Caswell was actually put in the Senate by Atherley.
Caswell has now evolved as a lone star. The only real voice speaking truth to power.
So we should at least thank Atherley for that.
Caswell and his young colleague in the senate have not hidden the fact they have zero interest in running for political office. It is reasonable to conclude Atherley created the situation that informs public perception of his party.
@ David
Exactly ! The ironic thing is that both Senators have been outstanding. I have followed and listen to Senator Drakes and she is perhaps one of the clearest thinkers in either house at this time.
There has not been true progress in Barbados in a very long time, William.
Not surprising, since I doubt we have a true definition of what progress actually is.
This would be a good time for a national conversation.
But who shall lead us in what must be a comprehensive and consensus seeking series of discussions?
Who has the stomach for the projectile vomiting that must take place?
NOTHING must be off limits. NO OPINION, no matter how nauseating, must be held in check.
I am ready. Don’t know who else is. Let’s get down and dirty! “Scornful hand eat dirty pie!”
We cannot clean up the dirt before we “unearth” it!
@ Donna
We were not interested in any national conversation. The political culture of which Greene complains will not permit such. We assume that this quagmire was unplanned but it was perfectly engineered with state propaganda.
You will recall that prior to COVID , we were actually bragging how “brilliant” we were at borrowing money. Going back to Stuart and company , we witnessed widespread economic madness.
Until Greene and others who now occupy the higher echelons of public discourse, speak the truth as to why we are here and who brought us here, the unearthing
that you suggest will not come about.
One notes that the preferred exercise is to blame the masses. Quite recently on BU a very serious topic ended up addressing why poor people buy cell phones! We tend to blame the people and not those who are leading the people.
I don’t think that as a country , we have been seriously engaged since the mid 70s. We were fed a lot of feel good stories and got into depending on international agency ratings and so on.
In the mean time, the basic infrastructure began to deteriorate, that’s why today we are dealing with water shortages and poor housing etc.
Many of these self appointed guardians of society are excellent gymnasts they know how to flip, fly through the air and then “ stick it” by landing perfectly on their feet. We the spectators applaud them and they end up with the medals and million dollars endorsements.
And that’s the show for tonight, see you next time folks…………………
No wonder then they can say that’s who we are. They know us quite well. They are the engineers.
William,
You are correct. Since the mid 70s we have not been seriously engaged. The battle was portrayed as won.
It was only just beginning.
William Skinner September 20, 2021 7:28 AM
I have read old issues of the Barbados Advocate ‘dating back’ to 1950, in which I’ve seen articles highlighting water shortages in St. Andrew and St. Joseph…… something still occurring to this day. And, there were also cases of “poor housing” as well.
There were also several cases of bus drivers being fined for speeding, allowing passengers to disembark at areas other than bus stops, failing to stop when signalled to do so police, while conductors were fine for overloading.
For example, on December 20, 1951, Acting Police Magistrate of District ‘A,’ G.B Griffith, fined Edward Robinson of the General Bus Company, 5/-, to be paid in 14 days or 21 day imprisonment, after he was found guilty of failing to stop omnibus M1448, when signalled to do so by P.C Brathwaite.
On January 10, 1951, H. A Thalma imposed a 5s fine on bus conductor, Marcus Marcus Morris, for overloading omnibus M-2138.
There was also a case going back to September 1933, where a bus driver was fined 6/- and 1/- costs for talking to a passenger.
Doesn’t those cases remind you of what occurs with the operators ‘ZRs’ and mini-buses in 2021……… SEVENTY (70) YEARS later?
There were several cases involving vendors not utilizing the markets, preferring instead to ‘set-up’ shop where ever they chose to sell.
‘Government’ opened the newly built Probyn Street bus stand on Sunday, February 5, 1950 and by February 10, passengers were complaining that it was great inconvenience to them.
By May 1950, hawkers took over the bus stand, with bread vendors parking their carts along the stand. A news report indicated it was ‘gradually becoming a small wayside market and discarded coconuts shells, paper and skins added to its untidiness.”
Doesn’t this remind you of those vendors at the entrance to the Fairchild Street Bus Terminal………. SEVENTY-ONE (71) later, in 2021?
And, I’ve read contribution in which you wrote about ‘progressive thinkers’ to whom you listened with rapt attention.
If you were to analyse the situation, one would reasonably conclude there hasn’t been any significant changes during the past 71 years, and all those guys you keep alluding to, ‘were all talk and no action.’
@ Artax
Their “ all talk and no action” resulted in the 1974 Public Order Act. I think you’re wrong to call men and women who suffered personally and professionally for exposing racism and other inequalities in the society as mere talkers. I can tell from your totally false statement that you are not aware of what transpired at that time . You obviously are unaware of what Errol Barrow told Eric Williams , when the Black Power activists were exposing similar atrocities against the masses in Trinidad.
At a public meeting in Independence Square Barrow said something like this: I saying it now. Anybody who tries to overthrow a government is involved in treason. The penalty for treason is death.
So, you are wrong about declaring people who took on the social ills of the country as bare talkers. BTW, they were out there in full sight not hiding behind pseudonyms. Go and talk to now retired police and they will enlighten you a bit more.
The mere fact that you can go back further than the seventies to highlight poor services and creeping indiscipline bares out my point that the Duopoly can be justly accused or blamed for encouraging , allowing and engineering what we are confronted with at present.
Peace bro’
Come on, my friend.
As I’ve mentioned to you before, perhaps it’s either the manner in which I express myself, or you read, and ‘shoot from the hip,’ without first attempting to understand what was written.
I specifically wrote, “If you were to ANALYSE the situation, one would REASONABLY CONCLUDE there hasn’t been any significant changes during the past 71 years, and all those guys you keep alluding to, ‘were all talk and no action.’.”
I’m sure you’re aware there is a significant difference between EXPOSING a situation……… and CHANGING it.
All I’m ‘asking’ is, despite all “the men and women who suffered personally and professionally for EXPOSING racism and other inequalities in the society,”………
……………. please indicate WHAT are the FUNDAMENTAL SOCIAL CHANGES those people you alluded to, INITIATED, especially when one takes into CONSIDERATION many of the social-economic problems, “racism and other inequalities” that EXISTED and were “EXPOSED” in those days……….. STILL EXIST TODAY?
Unless you’re trying to ‘tell’ me one of their achievements was the 1974 Public Order Act?
Please explain to me how I am wrong, when I DID NOT make a DEFINITIVE statement………. but an ASSUMPTION, based on what existed then and now?
Referring to people who “were out there in full sight (in the 1960s or 70s) not hiding behind pseudonyms,” as opposed to people using pseudonyms on a social media blog, you’re being facetious and it’s a silly comparison.
Unfortunately, this is you how guys operate. You cannot engage in a civil discussion, without ‘dropping snide remarks or going into the gutter.’
By the way, bear in mind, if you’ve accepted ‘men and women who were out there in full sight not hiding behind pseudonyms, suffered personally and professionally for exposing’ the ills of the society at that time, then, surely you can sympathize with anyone who does not want to suffer a similar fate, preferring to fight anonymously in this era, instead?
Tusahibuk alsalama.
@ Mr. Skinner
@ Artax
Hiding behind pseudonyms simply means they were exposed. In other words the powers that be knew who they were. You obviously interpreted the comment incorrectly. In other words there was no social media back then. I did not attempt any comparison. I merely stated a fact. You assumed it was intended as a snide remark.
They achieved a lot because they opened the eyes of hundreds of people who got a better understanding as to the socio economic conditions of their country. That my friend is called education. That is an achievement.
Whether you assumed they were merely talkers , believe or said so as a statement you are wrong. They went to battle and they paid a very high price. And yes they achieved a whole lot in my opinion.
Peace bro’
The COVID advisor returned to the media platforms yesterday and speaks about the CoVID dashboard
He associates a level of mistrust amongst the people towards officials and govt presentation of the COvid numbers
Barbadians mistrust of govt has been an ongoing talking point since 2018
The dash board only reinforces such the reality
Govt has already said and done enough damage to the physche of the Barbadian
Mr ,Ellis job of being advisor to the people may well become an advisor to govt in helping govt to tell the truth and for that his pay might worth the while
So.Ellis comes out the paddock and has bolted towards one of govt misdeeds
The elephant called Mistrust just hoping that govt takes the advice and not put a padlock on the door by which Ellis entered to take the job
Lol…a talking point since 2018. You must be blind, deaf or both. Or is it just selective? It has been going on for as long as I can remember. And no bill nor act will change that, for they can all find a way around that.
You see a magistrate found grounds to extradite Tasker (under appeal), another party has already been tried and convicted, both implying laws in Barbados were broken, or the funds in question would not require cleaning.
And the solution? Ignore. Do nothing. Pretend nothing happened. Cuss the USA for meddling.
And note that every election, each of the duopoly have a suitcase full of “evidence” against the other, and yet nothing happens? It’s like a theatre play . It captures your attention briefly, then turns into a fairy tale.
“Barbadians mistrust of govt has been an ongoing talking point since 2018.”
Spot on, Coxy!!
And, I’m sure you’ll agree that’s one of the reasons why the DLP was defeated 30-0 at the polls.
But, as the saying goes, ‘ government is a continuum,’…………. so, the mistrust continues.
ArtaxSeptember 21, 2021 8:50 AM
“Barbadians mistrust of govt has been an ongoing talking point since 2018.”
Spot on, Coxy!!
And, I’m sure you’ll agree that’s one of the reasons why the DLP was defeated 30-0 at the polls.
But, as the saying goes, ‘ government is a continuum,’…………. so, the mistrust continues
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With all sincerity my hope is that come next election the same result coming from mistrust would occur again
In.any event if Ellis is given an opportunity to tell it like it’ is
There might be Hope that govt would heed the call and take his advice and not await a similar result which was handed to past govt at the election poll
Ellis came out swinging like a sharp shooter on a mission
“With all sincerity my hope is that come next election the same result coming from mistrust would occur again.”
And, “with all sincerity my hope is that come next election,” a ‘third party’ would emerge, with credible, progressive thinking candidates, who would articulate clear vision and progressive socio-economic policies for Barbados’ future development
Unfortunately, the nightmare of having to reelect the BLP or return to the DLP……. a political party that’s clearly ‘not ready’…. may become a reality.
@Artax
ac lacks the capacity to understand the DLP as William will agree is an equal partner contributing to the problem.
@ David
That’s the problem with ‘die hard party supporters.’ They cannot think objectively.
I remember mentioning I’m yet to hear the DLP’s pre and post COVID-19 plans. angela cox’s response was, DePeiza criticized the vaccines. That, in her mind, was an articulation of a policy proposal.
When you examine both political parties, you’ll realise there aren’t any political, philosophical and ideological differences between the BLP and DLP………. no matter how much their members and supporters believe and may want to convince us otherwise.
Just look at how easily members move between both parties and fit in comfortably.
We’re faced with a serious COVID-19 pandemic. Here is an opportunity for the DLP to be MATURE and put politics aside to work with ‘government’…….. present and discuss alternative ideas.
Instead, DePeiza, the DEMS and angela cox prefer to ‘get up every morning’ to look for anything for which to criticize ‘government,’ WITHOUT providing any ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS………simply because they seem to believe being adversarial is ‘good politics.’
In other words, keep some noise, criticize, hold marches, while keeping policies ‘close to your chest,’ worked for Mottley while she was in Opposition, therefore, it should work for DePeiza as well.
And, then these would try to convince us they have the interest of Barbados and Barbadians at heart, when in actuality they’re selfishly seeking ‘power.’
@ David
All of this is friendly fire. It’s amusing regardless of which end it comes from. It’s a show. Nothing more.
I said from the very beginning of this epidemic that we are extremely vulnerable because such crisis require unplanned for expenditure.I declined to enter any political discussion on the matter.
I am also cognizant of the fact that our physical infrastructure will make it even more difficult to manage.
A lot of jokers began to steer the discussion into politics and the usual party BS. You will note that I decline comment on Ellis’ appointment
I don’t understand how any citizen would want to turn this serious COVID matter into a political football.
There can be no balance when the Bees and Dees are sniping at each other.
We need to throw our full weight behind the government’s efforts with COVID.
Peace
ArtaxSeptember 21, 2021 10:23 AM
@ David
That’s the problem with ‘die hard party supporters.’ They cannot think objectively.
I remember mentioning I’m yet to hear the DLP’s pre and post COVID-19 plans. angela cox’s response was, DePeiza criticized the vaccines. That, in her mind, was an articulation of a policy proposal.
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Go to bu archives and pull.out that comment which u said I made
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ac @Artax
Go to bu archives and pull.out that comment which u said I made
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Three hours and counting
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Bring the evidence u always quick to find anything that can support your side of the story
This is three times I have asked u to bring evidence to support your mouthing
Rolling my eyes
angela cox September 21, 2021 3:20 PM #: “Go to bu archives and pull.out that comment which u said I made. Three hours and counting. Bring the evidence u always quick to find anything that can support your side of the story. This is three times I have asked u to bring evidence to support your mouthing. Rolling my eyes.”
@ angela cox
I apologize for keeping you waiting. Went into the BU archives, as you suggested. Guess what I found?
Perhaps you may want to stop “rolling your eyes” to read the following.
Artax August 22, 2021 9:00 AM
We are yet hear what are their socioeconomic policies, how will they GO ABOUT DEALING with COVID-19, if they plan to restructure the economy, more importantly, Verla’s vision for Barbados.
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angela cox August 22, 2021 9:25 AM
If memory serves correct Verla had made several statements on Covid even stating that govt take on vaccinations were insufficient to give public clarity on the issue of mandatory vaccine.”
“On the issue of the economy dlp spokesperson Ryan Walter’s have made several comments and statements which Depezia has not disagreed.”
“In any case going into the last election MiA kept her plans closed and only a pursue a plan of criticizing the then govt.”
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Artax August 22, 2021 10:23 AM
My friend, it’s clear you read, but DO NOT UNDERSTAND what you read. I wrote, “we are yet hear how will they ago about DEALING with COVID-19.
“Verla making several statements on Covid and even stating that govt take on vaccinations were insufficient to give public clarity on the issue of mandatory vaccine,”……………
…………. are MERE CRITICISMS and NOT an articulation of a COVID-19 policy.”
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angela cox August 22, 2021 10:39 AM
My response should be one gathered with sufficient understanding that Depezia has made sufficient input on that issue and many others
Hence in likewise manner Mia kept a closed mouth on issues going into the last election
Verla should not be denied the same due
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Artax August 22, 2021 11:23 AM
angela cox August 22, 2021 10:39 AM
Sufficient input in what?????
Criticizing is NOT the same as ARTICULATING a policy initiative.
And, you’re suggesting the DLP shouldn’t outline their plans for socioeconomic development of the island, but the electorate should ‘buy a pig in a bag’ and vote for them based ONLY on their criticisms of the BLP?
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Reminds me of a comment the Blogmaster made.
David August 17, 2021 7:28 AM
The BU Archives.
#priceless
How zat umpire?
👆
Artax
angela cox August 22, 2021 9:25 AM
If memory serves correct Verla had made several statements on Covid even stating that govt take on vaccinations were insufficient to give public clarity on the issue of mandatory vaccine.”
“On the issue of the economy dlp spokesperson Ryan Walter’s have made several comments and statements which Depezia has not disagreed.”
“In any case going into the last election MiA kept her plans closed and only a pursue a plan of criticizing the then govt
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You might be a wordsmith on taking comments and interpreting them into.what you belive what they are meant to say
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These are your words
I remember mentioning I’m yet to hear the DLP’s pre and post COVID-19 plans. angela cox’s response was, DePeiza criticized the vaccines. That, in her mind, was an articulation of a policy proposal.
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Again where did I say Verla Depezia criticized the vaccines
Maybe you should stop trying to.be Master interpreter for other people’s comments
@ angela cox
It’s clear you’re a semi-literate buffoon.
ArtaxSeptember 21, 2021 6:26 PM
@ angela cox
It’s clear you’re a semi-literate buffoon.
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It is clear u are a total jac..a.ss
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The comment of which u reference me as saying Verla Depezia criticized the vaccine makes you conclusion of what I stated to be a bold faced lie
The issue by which I made my comment resolved around the issue of mandatory vaccination which Verla did make a comment on and not the vaccine
However in your rush to judgement you pull out a comment which does not give the full context of what the issue was about
Guh long jac.a.ss yuh made my day
Now go back to the archives and dig a little longer for smut
Steuspe
I ‘said’ you are a semi-literate buffoon…….
……… and, it didn’t take long for you to PROVE it.
“Guh long ja(ngela) c(ox).a.ss yuh made my day.”
ArtaxSeptember 21, 2021 8:10 PM
I ‘said’ you are a semi-literate buffoon…….
……… and, it didn’t take long for you to PROVE it.
“Guh long ja(ngela) c(ox).a.ss yuh made my day
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First let me give you a big fat
Steupse
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Now let me congratulate myself for calling you out as a bold faced Liar
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Now go in peace and for good measure let me remind u
People living in glass houses must not throw stones
It is obvious that the stone you threw my way boomerang and hit you in the face
A Liar is a Liar yes that is what I just call u
A bone headed Liar
I take it back.
You’re a semi-literate……. appallingly ignorant……… buffoon.
The gist of the ‘discussion’ was, I’m yet to hear how the DLP plans to about dealing with COVID-19.
YOU responded by ‘saying,’ Verla “made several statements on COVID, even stating that govt take on vaccinations were insufficient to give public clarity on the issue of mandatory vaccine.”
DePeiza’s “statements” were MERE CRITICISMS and NOT an ARTICULATION of a COVID-19 policy.”
What about that do you not understand?
But, since you want to ‘nit pick,’ hoping to prove a point.
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Artax August 26, 2021 7:31 AM
@ David
I agree with Dr. Joseph. What he outlined in his article cannot, in all honesty, cannot be refuted.
Recall I mentioned in previous contributions that Verla hasn’t provided the electorate with any information relative to her vision for the future development of the island, or how the DEMS plan to deal with COVID 19, or their socioeconomic policies.
A ‘foot soldier’ presented Verla’s CRITICISMS of MANDATORY VACCINATIONS as sound policy initiatives. And, because Mottley kept policies ‘close to her chest,’ Verla should be allowed to do the same. So, we shouldn’t ask her any questions, but vote for the DLP based solely on they criticizing Mia Mottley.
A ‘foot soldier’ presented Verla’s CRITICISMS of MANDATORY VACCINATIONS as sound policy initiatives. And, because Mottley kept policies ‘close to her chest,’ Verla should be allowed to do the same. So, we shouldn’t ask her any questions, but vote for the DLP based solely on they criticizing Mia Mottley
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You are an idiot
First u came out with a bold faced lie
Secondly you presented bogus proof to support your allegations
Now your intention is to continue with a bogus allegation by which you were proven wrong
Have a good day have jac..ass
Rather than engage you in a meaningless ‘back and forth,’ I’ve provided the forum with the following link, where our contributions to the ‘discussion’ can be found……..
………….. thereby leaving it to BU to determine whose “proof and allegations are bogus,”……. and, according to Dave Martins and The Tradewinds’ song ‘Civilization’………..
‘So, answer me fast, who civilized and who is the jackass.’
https://barbadosunderground.net/2021/08/11/de-peiza-versus-hewitt-dlp-for-democratic/comment-page-2/#comments
Here endeth the lesson.