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The Government, private sector and unions have signalled their intention to move from the optional injection phase to the mandatory. They seem convinced that the injections can only benefit Barbadians, and do not understand why many Barbadians are hesitant.

Both vaccinated and unvaccinated persons deserve an honest evidence-based discussion of COVID-19. To facilitate that discussion, the facts that are publicly known to-date are outlined in this article.

SARS-CoV PANDEMIC

In 2002, there was a pandemic called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in China. It was caused by the SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV).

In 2004, the US and Chinese Governments funded research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China, where they identified bats as the source of the SARS coronavirus [1].

CREATING VIRUSES

In 2005, US researchers developed a method of creating a new SARS coronavirus from parts of other viruses. Their method made it impossible to know whether the new virus was developed in a lab or naturally [2]. The method was called “no-see-um”.

In 2007, the Governments of China, Australia and Europe funded research at WIV where new viruses were assembled, by using parts of the SARS-CoV virus. Their new virus was able to infect human cells [3].

CREATING DANGEROUS VIRUSES

In 2015, the US and Chinese governments funded research, where US researchers (who developed the “no-see-um” method) genetically modified virus samples from China. These new viruses efficiently replicated in the human respiratory system, and were resistant to antibodies and vaccines [4].

In 2016, Chinese and US governments funded research at WIV. They developed a method of genetically modifying the virus created by US researchers in 2015. They developed multiple versions of this dangerous coronavirus [5].

CREATING DEADLY VIRUSES

In 2017, Chinese researchers at WIV were developing new coronaviruses using the “no-see-um” method [6]. They also developed different coronaviruses that could better infect, and efficiently replicate in humans [7].

In 2018, the Government of China funded research at the WIV that included replicating and modifying some of the most deadly viruses known to man, including Ebola, and Marburg [8]. This unpublished work was ongoing at the lab during the COVID-19 outbreak.

LAB SECURITY

The purpose of all of this research appears to have been well-intentioned. Researchers assumed that the next pandemic would come from a variant of the bat virus. Therefore, they were trying to develop a variant that could easily infect, and rapidly replicate in humans, so that a vaccine could be developed for it.

The problem is that genetically developing deadly viruses should be done at the highest security level, to prevent their escape. Level 4 provides the highest level of laboratory security. For comparison, the security level in a dentist’s office is Level 2.

The Chinese were developing dangerous viruses in Level 2 conditions [3]. Chernobyl should have taught the world that international level disasters can happen, when people deliberately do not adhere to safety standards specifically designed to prevent such disasters.

THE GAMES

On 12 September 2019, the Wuhan Institute of Virology removed its public database of over 22,000 entries from the Internet. Between 18 to 27 October 2019, China hosted the once-in-four-years Military World Games. It was attended by 9,308 military persons from 109 countries. Barbados sent two persons and won one bronze medal [9]. The host city was Wuhan.

Visiting athletes reported having their temperature checked at the airport [10]. Many visiting athletes became sick with COVID-19 like symptoms in Wuhan, and/or soon after they left [11]. Some countries have confirmed that COVID-19 was present in their countries in November 2019 [12].

THE DESTRUCTION

On 1 January 2020, Chinese labs were ordered to destroy their virus samples. Two days later, Chinese institutions were ordered not to publish any information on the virus, and to destroy all virus samples or give them to authorised Government agencies [13].

ANALYSING THE EVIDENCE

The evidence points to an accidental leak of different genetically modified viruses from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, before the military games. It was then spread throughout the world by the soldier athletes, when they completed their deployments. This may explain the relatively rapid global spread, and the diverse (now 15) variants.

The latest research suggests that a variant like MERS (with a one-in-three fatality rate) is a realistic possibility. The possibility that a new variant would evade current vaccines, and become difficult to revaccinate against, is almost certain [14].

WHY THE HESITANCY?

Why is there such hesitancy in discussing the possibility that COVID-19 was created in a lab?

The mountain of credible publicly available scientific evidence, suggests that COVID-19 was created in a lab. There is no similar evidence that it developed naturally. Why are those on the side of the overwhelming supporting evidence labelled conspiracy theorists?

VACCINE DEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTION

The development of the COVID-19 vaccines is founded on the unverified, and likely false assumption that COVID-19 developed naturally. Why is there hesitancy in critically examining the vaccines, given that the foundation on which they were developed is questionable?

Barbadians are not anti-vax. Barbadians normally take vaccinations to protect themselves against natural diseases. If COVID-19 is not a naturally occurring virus, Barbadians are justified in being hesitant. That hesitancy can be addressed with an honest evidence-based discussion – or by force.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

REFERENCES


[1] Li, W et al. Bats are natural reservoirs of SARS-like coronaviruses. Science, 2005.

[2] Baric R, Sims C. Development of Mouse Hepatitis Virus and SARS-CoV Infectious cDNA Constructs. Current Topics in Microbiology and Immunology, 2005.

[3] Ren, W. Difference in receptor usage between severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) coronavirus and SARS-like coronavirus of bat origin. Journal of Virology. 2008.

[4] Menachery, V et al. A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence. Nature Medicine, 2015.

[5] Zeng, L et al. Bat Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome-Like Coronavirus WIV1 Encodes an Extra Accessory Protein, ORFX, Involved in Modulation of the Host Immune Response. Journal of Virology, 2016.

[6] Leiping, Z. Reverse Genetic System of Bat SARS-like Coronaviruses and Function of ORFX. The University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, 2017.

[7] Hu, B et al. Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus. PLOS Pathogens, 2017.

[8] Pathogen Host Adaptation and Immune Intervention. The Chinese Academy of Science (Implementation 2018-2022).

[9] 2019 Yearbook. 7th CISM World Summer Games. International Military Sports Council, 2020.

[10] Houston, M. “More athletes claim they contracted COVID-19 at Military World Games in Wuhan.” Inside the Games, 17 May 2020.

[11] Francis, D. “Canadian Forces Have Right to Know If They Got COVID at the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan.” Financial Post, 25 June 2021.

[12] Fongaro, G et al. The presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in human sewage in Santa Catarina, Brazil, November 2019. The Science of the Total Environment, July 2021.

[13] Pingui, Z. China confirms unauthorised labs were told to destroy early coronavirus samples. South China Morning Post, 15 May 2020.

[14] Long term evolution of SARS-CoV-2. Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). 26 July 2021.


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888 responses to “Difficult Conversations – Addressing Vaccine Hesitancy”


  1. Dominica has its visitors last time I checked.

    https://discoverdominica.com/en/travel-advisory-for-dominica


  2. The question is what are the numbers to compare to Barbados. A significant Barbados number over Dominica increases probability?


  3. JOHN
    I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
    THIS “VIRUS” IS NOT NATURAL AND WAS DEFINITELY DESIGNED
    THIS EXPLAINS THE DIFFICULTY IN CONTROL
    SARS WAS A POTENT CORONOVIRUS TOO……AND IT SUBSIDED WITHOUT A VACCINE

    SO HAS AIDS (NOT A CORONOVIRUS) HAS ALSO SUBSIDED AND IS NOT AS RAMPANT AS WHEN IT WAS FIRST DESCRIBED IN 1981.
    CORONOVIRUS INFECTIONS – I.E THE FLU- HAS BEEN AN ANNUAL PROBLEM , BUT IT IS USUAL TRANSIENT AND ONLY TAKE MOSTLY THE ILL AND THE AGED IN ITS WAKE.

    I BELIEVE THAT THE VARIANTS ARE NOT REALLY MUTATIONS BUT HAVE BEEN SIMILARLY DESIGNED.
    I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SYSTEMATICALLY INTRODUCED INTO CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND COUNTRIES N THE WORLD TO ACHIEVE THE INTENDED EFFECT………PERPETUAL AND PERENNIAL FEAR.
    I DONT BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THIS CAN BE REFUTED
    THIS IS REAL SCIENTIFIC THOUGHT NOT BRIMBLING AND BRAYING IN FEAR BY BU MEDICAL ILLITERATES


  4. Note to the average Barbadian..

    I took myself out of the COVID-19 business on BU a long time ago and willing only comment items that really catch my interest.

    The abundance of COVID-19 information/misinformation is confusing.

    Please bear in mind that I am not a fan of Mia, but I make the following recommendation:
    I would suggest that you listen to the authorities(GoB). They have real skin in the game. They will do their best to offer sound advice and follow ‘established’ procedures. Their positions will be carefully thought out and will follow sound scientific advice.

    On the other hand, the throw something on the wall crowd and hope it sticks has nothing to lose. They can change their position according to how the wind blows.

    I used to urge you to Google. Now I will urge you to scroll most of the advice given here. Get yourself a “scroll list’


  5. Translate into English!!

    What numbers?

    Deaths in Dominica = Zero, cases 20 X less than Barbados.

    Population of Dominica is about a quarter of Barbados yet cases are 20 times fewer.


  6. You may have the last word.


  7. Vincent,

    I am speaking about global statistics. Outcomes do vary significantly according to the overall health of the population and access to quality health care.

    Also, with persons often being infected but asymptomatic, it is highly likely that cases are missed with any such infectious disease.

  8. GP BU RETIRED "RESIDENT" DR Avatar
    GP BU RETIRED “RESIDENT” DR

    The question is what are the numbers to compare to Barbados. A significant Barbados over Dominica increases probability ?
    A VERY STUPID QUESTION.
    WHEN THE BU ILLITERATI PRETEND TO THINK AT THIS LEVEL ( USUALLY IN THE ATTEMPT AT DERISION AND TO CONTRADICT) IT IS MOST ABSURD AND MOST HILARIOUS

    A BETTER QUESTION IS HOW MANY VISITORS BROUGHT COVID INTO BARBADOS AND WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS FACILITATED ITS TRANSMISSION..
    WHAT ARE THE FACTORS IN DOMINICA THAT IS CAUSING THE STAISTICS THAT THEY ARE REPORTING

    PERHAPS THERE IS SOME MERIT IN JOHN’S ASSERTIONS ABOUT SPREAD VIA WATER. IT CAN NOT BE TOTALLY EMBRACED OR DISCREDITED UNTIL HIS THESIS IS SUBJECTED TO RIGOROUS INVESTIGATION VIA THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, RATHER THAN NON SCIENTIFIC SPECULATION BATHED IN IGNORANCE OF THE BASIC MEDICAL SCIENCES.

    AT LEAST JOHN IS TRYING TO FOLLOW THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IN HIS POSTS

    PERHAPS IF WE HAD FOLLOWED THE INFO GIVEN BY THE MOST EXCELENT DR EO DOUGHLIN, WE MIGHT HAVE SEEN A BETTER RESULT


  9. Cuhdear said 4.4billion people were vaccinated
    A check of world data say 1.22billion
    People received the vaccine
    Anyhow on BU the ignorance lingers on


  10. GP

    I agree with you about the variants.

    They were manufactured and introduced to prolong the lifecycle of COVID.

    I think however that it is easy to control.

    China had it under control in two shakes last year and I reckon it will miraculously control the Delta variant shortly..

    That’s why I look at the countries which do have it under control other than China.

    Singapore and New Zealand I reckon know what they are doing.

    Their size and the fact they are islands help them but they got their infrastructure under control.

    Australia is nearly there.

    Dominica is just blessed but it is from the blessed we can learn much.


  11. Overall health does have an impact on the outcome of many diseases, I think.

    Obesity is often a sign of poor health in other areas.

    Note that I said often.


  12. I think anyone who has been closely following the Covid 19 global situation would be aware that you cannot simply assume that what happens in one country can be translated to somewhere else. All the publicly available data demonstrates that the impact of Covid 19 in terms of number of infections, hospitalisations and deaths vary widely between countries. It would appear that some of these differences are accounted for by different demographics, different social conditions, diferent climatic conditions and other factors. In this scenario, there is no substitute for local research to inform the appropriate policy for each country. Simply copying what others do won’t work. The fact that in Barbados and the wider Caribbean, we lack the capability to conduct such research is a statement about the lack of interest in the health of the people of the Caribbean by successive governments across the region. How do we square that longstanding lack of interest in the well being and health of Caribbean people with this sudden drive to vaccinate everyone, allegedly to protect their health?

    The fact is that those pushing for mandatory vaccination are the hoteliers and the private sector, who seem to have formed the idea that if enough people are vaccinated, they’ll be able to start making money again from the tourism industry. Personally, I think they are mistaken and I don’t see a recovery of tourism any time soon. So the push really has nothing to do with protecting the health of working class Bajans.

    As a final point, I thought I would share this extract from a leaked draft agreement between Pfizer and the Albanian government. The document is dated 1 June 2021 and I have seen no statement from Pfizer denying its authencity.

    5.5 Purchaser Acknowledgement
    Purchaser acknowledges that the Vaccine and materials related to the Vaccine, and their components and constituent materials are being rapidly developed due to the emergency circumstances of the COVID-19 pandemic and will continue to be studied after provision of the Vaccine to Purchaser under this Agreement. Purchaser further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the Vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the Vaccine that are not currently known……

    http://ti-health.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Albania-Pfizer.pdf

    The questions that come to my mind are as follows:
    1. Why does Pfizer say that long term efficacy of the vaccine is not currently known when it has been advertising its vaccine as having 95% efficacy?

    How can Pfizer claim that its vaccines are safe and at the same time say that there may be adverse effects that are not currently known?

    Given this lack of certainty, can there be any justification whatsoever for coercing people to be vaccinated?


  13. @Tee White

    Two factors working against Barbados compared to others is that we have an ageing population and high NCD penetration.


  14. “Two factors working against Barbados compared to others is that we have an ageing population and high NCD penetration.”

    Bajans also believe conspiracy theories crap on the internet like toxic Rightwing Christians of Amerikkka


    Do not call conspiracy all that this people calls conspiracy, and do not fear what they fear, nor be in dread,” (Isaiah 8:12).

    “Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies;” reminding him that,“you know that they breed quarrels,” (2Timothy 2:23).


  15. I see another term that seems more like the flip side to recovery rate – case fatality rate.

    Seems like GP has given up on helping me with my investigation.

    Comparing statistics in these matters is complex and I am trying to understand his position which seems to be that no vaccine push was necessary for a disease with a 98% recovery rate. As I understand him, corruption is behind the whole vaccine push and treatment after infection would be a more effective approach.

    He apparently thinks that the fact that infections are occurring after “vaccination” is unique to covid, therefore invalidating the claim to the name “vaccine”.

    He believes all the major health authorities of the world are corrupt and that the virus and/or its variants are manufactured to prolong the pandemic.

    This dummy is trying to follow his reasoning and is finding some difficulty in reconciling his main points with the evidence that she found.

    He has only confused me further because he has not answered my questions outright.


  16. Two questions that are easy to answer
    1. Why does Pfizer say that long term efficacy of the vaccine is not currently known when it has been advertising its vaccine as having 95% efficacy?

    Long-term refers to the amount of time the vaccine is in use. With just one or two years of observation, the long term efficacy is not known. New variants will make it even more difficult to have long-term information.

    How can Pfizer claim that its vaccines are safe and at the same time say that there may be adverse effects that are not currently known?

    For any drug/vaccine, new (rare) adverse events are observed over time or as the number of people exposed increase.


  17. RE US to deliver nearly 837K Pfizer vaccines to Caribbean

    MAN THEY OUGHT TO GIVE MONEY FOR TREATMENT TOO
    AFTER ALL THE US GOVERNMENT IN THEIR ABOMINABLE HATRED FOR TRUMP MANDATED THE SLANDER THAT HYDROXYCHLOROQUININE OUT NOT TO BE USED IN TREATMENT OF COVID, DESPITE ACCURATE AVAILABLE SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE .

    THEY OUGHT TO GIVE MONEY FOR TREATMENT TO THE BLACK FOLK IN AFRICA WHO WERE DEPRIVED OF THEIR ANTI MALARIAL MEDICATION

    I HEARD A DR FROM THE CAMEROONS STATE THAT IN HER ENVIRONS THAT THE DRUG HYDROXYCHLOROQUININE IS GIVEN ROUTINELY EVERY SUNDAY.AS A PROPHYLACTIC FOR MALARIA, MUCH LIKE WE WERE GIVEN THE NOW POPULAR DEEP SEA FAT OILS IN OUR CHILDHOOD FOLLOWED BY THE WIPING OF THE LIPS WITH A PIECE OF ORANGE.

    I AM TALKING ABOUT SEVEN SEAS COD LIVER OILS.

    JOHN KNOX
    IF OUR PARENTS WERE SMART ENOUGH TO EXHIBIT DEEP SEA FATOILS TO US LONG BEFORE THE SCIENTISTS WERE ADVOCATING THEIR USE, PERHAPS THE SAGES IN THE DOMINICAN COMMUNITY ARE GIVING SOME COCKTAIL FOR COVID PROPHYLAXIS.

    WE DRINK CHLOROQUINONE IN THIS ABODE
    I THINK IT SAVED MY LIFE LASST YEAR.

    MAYBE IT WAS MY DOMINICAN BLOOD LINE. MURDAAAH


  18. DONNA DEAREST
    I WILL TRY TO GET BACK TO YOU LATER
    MAYBE BECAUSE OF YOU I MIGHT EVEN SHARE THE LINK FOR A SEMINAR ON WHAT THE JAMAICANS ARE THINKING ON THERAPY


  19. “PERHAPS THERE IS SOME MERIT IN JOHN’S ASSERTIONS ABOUT SPREAD VIA WATER. IT CAN NOT BE TOTALLY EMBRACED OR DISCREDITED UNTIL HIS THESIS IS SUBJECTED TO RIGOROUS INVESTIGATION VIA THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, RATHER THAN NON SCIENTIFIC SPECULATION BATHED IN IGNORANCE OF THE BASIC MEDICAL SCIENCES.”

    O Wise Cunt who dwelleth in the darkside of the Trump Troll

    Explain to all how Covid affects peoples lungs from drinking water

    Riddle me this, riddle me that guess this riddle or perhaps not


  20. I was made to understand at the beginning of the pandemic that whether a disease dies out or not often depends on how contagious it is. That was the explanation given for the other recent Sars viruses having died out. They apparently were not as efficient at infecting people and were therefore contained by public health measures.

    Seemed logical to me at the time.

    We were told from the start that this virus differed in that it was highly efficient at transmitting and infecting. And some of its variants are even more efficient.

    I read that measles is also highly efficient. It seems that it would infect 9 out of every ten persons who share the same living space.

    I was wondering if a disease that is so highly contagious and therefore likely to infect almost everybody over a relatively short period of time, would not end up killing a very large number of people when one applies the recovery rate or case fatality rate to such a large number of infections. I was wondering if this could be the reason for the vaccine push rather than the conspiracy theory being proposed by others.

    The reason behind the theories has not been communicated in a manner that makes any sense to me. Besides which it would take collaboration between far too many authorities to pull it off.

    In other words, my questions are –

    WHY, WHY, WHY?

    and

    HOW, HOW, HOW?


  21. “The Bahamas will receive 397,000 doses followed by Trinidad and Tobago with more than 305,000 doses. Barbados will receive 70,200 doses, while 35,100 are slated for St. Vincent and the Grenadines, 17,550 for Antigua and 11,700 for St. Kitts and Nevis.”

    some people’s bodies can handle the pfizer vaccine just fine, some get clots etc, check your doctor for information.


  22. Typical frauds of parliment whose Monday words and Wednesday words don’t match, but they are the ones in the hot seat…..no one else…..the Black population would do well to START weaning themselves away from the SLAVE SYSTEM and these LIARS..everyone is watching them but they are still lying and deceiving.

    “Government has not yet made a policy decision as it relates to making COVID-19 vaccinations mandatory for Barbados.

    This assurance has come from Acting Attorney General Wilfred Abrahams, on Monday as he addressed the first of a series of town hall meetings to address the topic at the Alexandra School hall.

    Addressing those present at the Queen’s Street, St Peter school, Minister Abrahams sought to dispel misconceptions that Government was trying to impose the vaccine on residents.

    He said persons were speaking about “forced vaccinations”, but stressed that “nothing could be further from the truth”.

    “No one can hold you down and stick a needle in your arm. You have rights with respect to your body, but equally other persons have rights with respect to theirs, and business owners have rights with respect to that as well,” he stated.

    But, at the same time, he made it clear that a way forward that accommodated Barbados as a whole, its economy, the safety of citizens, their way of life and the rights of all needed to be found.

    Abrahams said while there may be varying views on the subject matter, the town hall meetings were being held to hear suggestions from the public.

    “The Government does not have a policy position as it stands now in respect of mandatory vaccination of anybody,” he said.

    The Acting Attorney General said while officials may have an idea about what they wanted to do in the situation, there may be other opinions that could be heard to put together a combination of factors.

    “I would prefer that at this point in time that we take suggestions; we take full discussions; ask the questions that you want to ask to put you in an informed position…to come up with a solution,” the Minister pointed out.

    He urged persons to weigh as many factors as possible to come up with the best decision for the majority of people.

    During the meeting, Minister of Health and Wellness, Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Bostic; Chief Medical Officer of Health, Dr Kenneth George, and Senior Medical Officer, Dr Leslie Rollock, made presentations and responded to a range of questions from the public, including those about quarantine procedures, the effectiveness of the vaccine and possible side effects.

    The second meeting in the series coordinated by the Ministry of Labour and Social Partnership Relations will take place tomorrow, Wednesday, August 11, at the Princess Margaret Secondary School, Six Roads, St. Philip, from 5 pm to 7 pm .”


  23. Oh well, Indians are now being told, sorry, we can’t let you in, ya skin too dark=excuse Covid, remember Indians don’t think they are black-skinned and err on the side of some imaginary whiteness, like the frauds and clowns in Barbados and the region. What a world…anyhoo, they are being told now, reality…taken down a couple notches, makes them more eager to do the dirty work against everyone else..

    https://youtu.be/0d0-wOnphfs


  24. DONNA I THINK THAT YOU ARE FIGHTING THE INFORMATION, JUST AS I HAVE SEEN MANY STUDENTS DO
    I was made to understand at the beginning of the pandemic that whether a disease dies out or not often depends on how contagious it is.
    THE KEY WORD HERE IS OFTEN
    OFTEN AND ALWAYS ARE KEY WORDS TO TRIP THE UNWARY IN MCQ EXAMS ESPECIALLY.LOL

    That was the explanation given for the other recent Sars viruses having died out. They apparently were not as efficient at infecting people and were therefore contained by public health measures. Seemed logical to me at the time. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ONLY PARTIALLY TRUE. VIRILITY OF A PATHOGEN IS ONLY ONE WAY THAT AFFECTS CONTAGION OF AN INFECTION

    We were told from the start that this virus differed in that it was highly efficient at transmitting and infecting. And some of its variants are even more efficient.
    THAT IS THE PROPAGANDA. WHAT WAS NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY PROPAGATED IS THE FACT THAT IT HAS LONG BEEN DOCUMENTED BY HONEST MEDICAL PERSONEL THAT THERE WAS A TREATMENT WHOSE MECHANISM OF ACTION WAS WELL KNOWN THAT COULD LIKELY COMBAT THE DISEASE IF GIVEN EARLY IN ITS COURSE BEFORE ANY REPLICATION OF THE “VIRUS” OCCURRED.

    WHEN THIS WAS DONE ALONG WITH SUITABLE AGENTS TO COMBAT THE INEVITABLE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE THAT OCCURS WITH ANY INSULT TO THE BODY, GOOD RESULTS WERE OBTAINED.

    SOME PERSONS ADDED ANTIBIOTICS TO THE MIX TO COMBAT ANY LIKELY CONCOMITANT BACTERIAL INFECTION.

    I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS.
    AFTER MY VISIT TO THE DR WHERE THEY HAD BEEN SOME CONTAGION. I DEVELOPED THE ORAL SENSORY SYMPTOMATOLOGY. WHEN, HOWEVER, I HAD PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS I IMBIBED 1000 MG OF TETRACYCLINE STATIM, AND REQUESTED PRAYER FROM MY CHURCH FAMILY

    I read that measles is also highly efficient. It seems that it would infect 9 out of every ten persons who share the same living space.
    I was wondering if a disease that is so highly contagious and therefore likely to infect almost everybody over a relatively short period of time, would not end up killing a very large number of people
    IT VERY WELL MIGHT DO SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU applY the recovery rate or case fatality rate to such a large number of infections OR IF YOU ATE A DOZEN FRIED OR STEAMED FLYING FISH OR DRANK A GALLON OF COLD MAUBY .

    HAVE TO GO NOW


  25. WURA-War-on-UAugust 11, 2021 11:38 AM

    “The Bahamas will receive 397,000 doses followed by Trinidad and Tobago with more than 305,000 doses. Barbados will receive 70,200 doses, while 35,100 are slated for St. Vincent and the Grenadines, 17,550 for Antigua and 11,700 for St. Kitts and Nevis.”

    some people’s bodies can handle the pfizer vaccine just fine, some get clots etc, check your doctor for information.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Like Dominica got left out.


  26. Samoa has had 3 cases and ZERO deaths.

    It allows no travel.

    The population is obese so maybe that’s why no travel is allowed.

    Vanuatu has had 4 cases and 1 death.

    No travel allowed.

    Barbados is 70% what Vanuatu is and Samoa is double what Vanuatu is.

    Dominica and Vanuatu are about the same.

    On its own, obesity does not seem to play a part in COVID.

    I am surprised but not shocked.

    Indonesia is 20 % as obese as Vanuatu and Barbados, so relatively skinny but it has 112,198 deaths to date..

    It’s COVID status is not good,

    Smokes like a chimney!!

    It’s the lungs.


  27. They start smoking early in life!!



  28. You see why Dr. Gale and the Cancer Society are to be commended.


  29. Stop listening to people, including dumb ass politicians and do your own research or you can end up in hospital while FULLY VACCINATED..

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CSbqXA7LniP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


  30. No. I am not fighting the information. OFTEN means it could very well be. I was also reading that Sars-1 was more lethal but less contagious. Symptoms appeared much faster and were more severe. Few, if any, seemed to be asymptomatic. This means that people had less time to infect others. AND there was not a host of carriers walking around not even knowing they were infected and infectious. Contract tracing and isolation was therefore easier.

    Therefore – Sars-1 was more easily contained.

    With respect to vaccines, I have discovered that breakthrough infections do occur with measles and mumps vaccines. One reason given was that the person’s immune system did not respond as is normal. Other reasons were given that I will not list. That is not important. What IS important is that the information was that the measles and mumps vaccines did have breakthrough infections but provided protection from severe illness in most but not all cases. A few of the vaccinated DIED, at least, I recall, in the case of measles. Sounds familiar! Sounds pretty much like what we have been told about these new vaccines.

    This is not consistent with what you said. And hence my confusion.

    Now…. I tend to ask for logic and evidence when being asked to believe weird conspiracy theories.

    I have already asked why would all these seperate entities with different agendas conspire in such a manner. For people to collaborate they usually have to share a common cause. What is that cause? Why do they collaborate? And to what end?

    To induce fear, you say. To what end?

    And how did they manage to secure the co-operation of all the various and diverse individuals they would need to pull off this tremendous feat?

    In my life, I have found that the most obvious and simple explanation is usually true. Convoluted and fantastical explanations remind me of the song Lying Excuses by the Mighty Sparrow. Unbelievable. He was doing exactly what he appeared to be doing – cheating on his wife. (555 would probably quote Shaggy’s It wasn’t me)

    So no, I am not fighting the evidence. I am simply not twisting myself into pretzels for no good reason.


  31. P.S. Are not various therapeutics being tried and/or developed? I thought they were. The early treatment you suggested has been submitted to the various health authorities with results reported, I assume?


  32. “Like Dominica got left out.”

    the best experimental case so far on why infection rates are so low…a few other countries are like that…worth monitoring, there is where the solutions may lay. ..there are people that neither the virus nor the vaccines register in their bodies…driving scientists wild..


  33. This player with the Ravens had covid twice,, lots of discomfort but still debating whether to get vaccinated, given that the vaccinated are also getting infected at high levels AND spreading the virus…we got a conundrum..





  34. Just one more question- where does the Very Stable Genius, the Chosen One, Drainer of the Swamp fit into this conspiracy?

    HOW did the corrupt powers that be get the better of this clean and white genius and get him to commit to pushing for vaccines?

    Why did he and his family take the vaccine, take credit for the vaccine and encourage others to take the vaccine?

    John told us the virus was a Democrat hoax that would disappear with Trump. That has not happened. Then he said the Chinese are trying to weaken America’s economy.

    Critical Analyzer tells us it is about the money for vaccine developers.

    Early on in the pandemic, GP said they would never explore the effectiveness of Trump’s bleach idea because there was no money to be made from cheap treatments. Other Trump promoted cures were rejected because the authorities all hated Trump. So the cure was being determined by the money and hatred of Trump. Now GP says its about creating fear. I am waiting to hear the reason they need to create this fear.

    And finally John opines that “they” knew the infrastructure of each country and I guess, how each would be effected. In other words the virus was designed to decimate particular targets.

    I await the next chapter that ties all these moving theories together

    I need something more than spaghetti thrown at a wall.

    Call me a moron but….


  35. Correction – AFFECTED


  36. However, there may be good treatments that have not been taken up.

    I would still like to see the Jamaican info.


  37. In my opinion, they all look way too stressed out, like they are all about to have strokes at the same time, wound up too tight, something is not sitting right…don’t think they like were they are right now, let’s see hoe long they hold out for…we may get good movie out of it…


  38. Why not analyze the ‘Dominica theory?’

    What is Dominica’s population per square mile when compared with Barbados’?

    Whereas we have communities that are densely populated with houses in very close proximity to each other, this is not the case with Dominica.

    One such community in Barbados is equivalent to at least 3 or 4 in Dominica.

    For example, compare Dominica’s Carib Village with the living environs of Bridgetown……… New Orleans, those streets off Baxter’s Road, Mason Hall Street, Lakes Folly, Emmerton Lane, Chapman Lane, Passage Road, White Park, Roebuck Street, Greenfield, Nelson Street, River Road, Bay Land, Bay Street, etc, are all densely populated with houses close to each other.

    Do Dominicans still follow the tradition of bathing and washing in the rivers?

    These points could be used as a basis to start the discussion.


  39. “DONNA I THINK THAT YOU ARE FIGHTING THE INFORMATION, JUST AS I HAVE SEEN MANY STUDENTS DO
    I was made to understand at the beginning of the pandemic that whether a disease dies out or not often depends on how contagious it is.
    THE KEY WORD HERE IS OFTEN
    OFTEN AND ALWAYS ARE KEY WORDS TO TRIP THE UNWARY IN MCQ EXAMS ESPECIALLY.LOL
    ::::

    The Doctor’s replies or lack of reek of bullshit trying to sound clever which is the oldest medical trick in the world as Doctors always pretend they know what they are talking about and half their job is bullshitting patients telling them to come back in a couple of weeks

    HAVE TO GO NOW”

    Playing the busy fool is another trick of theirs

    we take it you are completely clueless how Covid can get inside peoples lungs from drinking water by your non-response
    and are fuck


  40. “And finally John opines that “they” knew the infrastructure of each country and I guess, how each would be effected. In other words the virus was designed to decimate particular targets.”

    he said the “people who designed it” which is dripping in conspiracy theory like a cunt in heat


  41. ARTAX
    RE Do Dominicans still follow the tradition of bathing and washing in the rivers? These points could be used as a basis to start the discussion.
    EXCPT THAT THIS IS MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE BACTERIAL MORE SO THAN VIRAL ILLNESSES.
    BUT AT LEAST YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION LIKE A STUDENT OF SCIENCE.

    I PASSED THE ORAL TEST I WENT TO TAKE AT A GALLOP
    AND VERY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS CAME IN TODAY FOR A PROJECT FOR WIDOWS IN KENYA TODAY
    AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD DAY FOR ME

    DONNA I TRIED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS
    I SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTINUE BELIEVING WHAT EVER YOU BELIEVE AS LONG AS YOU WISH

    THEY ARE MANY trained doctors (ACCORDING TO THE DUMMY WHO FORGETS THAT DRS ARE ALL TRAINED) “, WHO ARE MAKING SENSE TO ME.. I WILL LISTEN TO THEM

    MY WIFE REMINDS ME THAT I HAVE PASSED ALL THE ORAL EXAMS I HAD TO TAKE IN MEDICINE AND THAT I DO NOT NEED TO SUBJECT MYSELF TO INTERROGATION BY MEDICAL ILLITERATES ON BU. SHE IS CORRECT.
    AS THE HEAD DUMMY IS WONT TO SAY YOU ALL MAY NOW HAVE THE LAST WORD.
    BYE


  42. The ball at 16:10… Unplayable
    Deliciously wicked.
    Man takes up his bat and ball and gone.

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