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If the late great Gladston Holder were alive he would take the opportunity to remind us that it does not matter who is elected to the White House, it the wealthiest families in the USA where the power is located- the Vanderbilts, Rockefellers et al. That said many will agree party colours aside, Trump’s legacy will be remembered as being one of the most bigoted and divisive.

Let it be no secret this blogmaster cannot wait to see the back of the man. He has disgraced the office of president of the USA and by extension the human race.

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  1. DonnaDecember 19, 2020 5:06 PM

    Time to fire Pompeo! He had the gall to confirm that it was Russia who carried out the hack.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Actually Ratcliff says so too, except that he adds China, Iran etc.

    So Pompeo is agreeing with the DNI!!


  2. DonnaDecember 19, 2020 5:03 PM

    Re Macron and masks – for the millionth time – masks are not 100 % effective. Condoms are not 100% effective.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just as no masks, Ferrol, Shark Oil, UV and Vitamin D are also not 100% effective.

    So, what’s the point of wearing a mask …. or for that matter a condom!!


  3. GP

    I enjoyed particularly the tables in the report by Navarro but figured many on here have problems with numbers and it would go over their heads.

    Plus, it will only upset them.

    I see there will be a Public report by Ratcliffe/DNI in January.

    By then both houses of Congress will have been briefed.

    We will see what happens come January with the report …. unless the report or parts of it get leaked!!

    .https://www.radio.com/971talk/news/national/herridge-dni-ratcliffe-confirms-china-election-interference


  4. Did anyone get to see the legal letter that was dropped on Fox re statements made on Lou Dobbs; Judge Jeannine and Mario Bartirimo shows?

    Seems like the Kraken Lady and Giuliani among others were making some allegedly false and defamatory statements re Election fraud by an outfit called Smartmatic that also operated voting machines in the last election.

    What did Fox do when confronted with a multi- million dollar law suit? It folded like a cheap suit and is running what are called “fact checking” segments on all three shows seems as if their guests mouths were writing cheques that their ass couldn’t cash.

    More to come


  5. I was perusing the shelves of the local LCBO earlier today when I came across this offering and the light bulb came on, I now understand what Powell meant when she said she will “Release the Kraken”.

    Yuh gotta give it up to the people from the Land of the Humming Bird, the home of the Scarlet Ibis and the home of the steel pan.
    The woman was thirsty for some spiced rum, T & T can’t spend enough money to buy that kind of publicity they should embark on a publicity campaign around “The KRAKEN is Here” all through selected parts of the USA to advertise its wares.

    Cry your eyes out Bacardi😊

    https://www.worldbeverage.net/spirits/?country=Trinidad+and+Tobago&winery=The+Kraken&sortby=sort_item_order&l=25


  6. “According to a recent Economist/YouGov Poll, three-quarters (75%) of registered voters think voter fraud occurred during the 2020 presidential election.”

    https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/11/19/america-speaks-do-they-think-fraud-occurred-2020-p

    Seems to be getting worse even with youtube removing videos claiming voter fraud.

    Maybe youtube should not interfere!!

    Why am I not surprised?


  7. Looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck … it’s a duck!!

    Makes it easier for Trump!!


  8. JohnDecember 19, 2020 5:42 PM

    DonnaDecember 19, 2020 5:03 PM

    Re Macron and masks – for the millionth time – masks are not 100 % effective. Condoms are not 100% effective.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just as no masks, Ferrol, Shark Oil, UV and Vitamin D are also not 100% effective.

    So, what’s the point of wearing a mask …. or for that matter a condom!!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It’s kinda like flu, … masks don’t work!!


  9. USA today should have left this one alone!!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/14/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-19-vaccine-causes-infertility-women/3884328001/

    Just gives credence to the assertion.

    An old planter in St. Andrew was believed by many to have been able to turn himself into an animal and spy on people stealing his produce.

    So, the reverend in St. Andrew’s Anglican Church preached a sermon one Sunday morning on the matter claiming it was ridiculous to believe that such a thing could happen.

    Whereupon everybody believed it!!


  10. I heard a similar story when I was in the interior of Guyana in a group hiking to Kaieteur falls in 1996.

    The younger Guyanese members of the group believed that the elder in the group, also from Guyana, could turn himself into a tiger at will.

    They referred to him as a “Canaiba Man” if I got that spelling right..


  11. What’s the point in wearing a condom?????

    You idiot! It prevents pregnancy most of the time. The odds of not getting pregnant are good. Same with seat belts. More deaths are prevented by wearing a seat belt. But on the odd occasion it causes more harm than it prevents.

    It is called playing the odds.

    But you taught maths! You know these things.


  12. But ….. I can’t get pregnant!!


  13. 100% certainty!!


  14. UH OH

    Looks like the Kraken woman could be in some sort of legal trouble,The Trump campaign has been ordered to preserve all documents related to Sidney-Powell and Dominion Systems.

    Does anyone think that Trump will float her a loan if she has to pay any sort of libel? Not on your life any money Trump raised is for him and his family.

    BTW Trump supposedly fired her after she made some cockamamie statements, now he is thinking of naming her to investigate voter fraud in the 2020 election.

    Hmmnnnnn a woman facing a libel suit over statements she made about an election investigating fraud in the same election.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-dominion-voting-systems/index.html


  15. … but 75% of registered voters believe there is election fraud!!!

    What’s the big deal about one single solitary woman?


  16. Besides, the papers will be in affidavit evidence before the courts who have refused to look at them.

    You are telling me the court is ordering the court not to discard the evidence it has before it and has refused to look at?

    So, 75% of 240 million registered voters believe there is fraud in the elections!!

    That means 180 million people believe there was fraud!!

    You worried about 1 single woman?


  17. I suggest you read the article, the Court hasn’t ordered anything, it’s the Trump campaign legal team that has requested staffers to preserve all documents relating to Sidney Powell and Dominion Voting Systems.

    This is what happens when a law suit is about to be launched and the lawyers don’t want to be accused of destroying evidence. I wonder if the campaign will also be a defendant in the lawsuit, remember Trump is on tape saying Sidney Powell is acting on behalf of the campaign.

    You can talk about fraud as long as the day is long, that dog won’t hunt, it’s a non- starter


  18. SargeantDecember 20, 2020 12:00 AM

    …. in the lawsuit, remember Trump is on tape saying Sidney Powell is acting on behalf of the campaign.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh, and here I was thinking that all the hoo haaa a while ago was to the effect that Sydney Powell did not work for the Trump legal team!!

    I explained the difference between Candidate Trump and President Trump but it clearly passed over your head.

    Remember this one.


  19. Turns out she had completely different clients … they just happened to be “on the President’s team”!!

    They have the same goals as both President Trump and Candidate Trump but they are different clients!!

    Can’t get much simpler!!


  20. I heard a couple of days ago from a lawyer that Justice of Appeal Cumberbatch had some medical challenges.

    If it is true I would like to offer my best wishes for a speedy recovery.

    If it isn’t, please disregard.

    Jeff used to be a regular contributor on BU.


  21. You probably can’t impregnate either.

    Trump talking about seizing voting machines now. His desperation is pathetic.



  22. DonnaDecember 20, 2020 1:39 PM

    Trump talking about seizing voting machines now. His desperation is pathetic.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Arizona Senate issued subpoenas for the machines and votes in Maricopa county 5 days ago!!!

    The election officials are fighting it.

    Other places too?

    Obviously something the hide!!


  23. The Executive Order from 2 years ago gives Trump the power to seize whatever he wants.

    Just needs to pull the trigger when the time is right!!


  24. Another perspective:

    https://www.azmirror.com/2020/12/15/senate-issues-subpoenas-for-all-ballots-voting-machines-to-audit-maricopa-county-election/

    The Arizona Senate is ordering the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors to turn over its ballot-counting machines, software, security logs, administrative passwords and all of the 2,089,563 ballots cast in the November election so lawmakers can conduct their own forensic audit.

    The county, which was given until the end of business Friday to comply, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Fields Moseley, a Maricopa County spokesman, said the Board of Supervisors will convene on Wednesday to receive legal advice on the subpoenas.

    It is unclear if legislative committee chairs have the power to compel another governmental entity to perform an action through a legislative subpoena. State law allows legislative committees to issue subpoena for witness testimony and related documents, though it seemingly is limited to individual witnesses whose “attendance … is desired” before a legislative committee.

    And subpoenas must include certain things to be considered “sufficient” under the law, including being addressed to the witness and requiring attendance “at a certain time and place.” The subpoenas issued by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Eddie Farnsworth and Senate President Karen Fann are addressed to the board of supervisors and do not require attendance at either a time or place. Instead, the subpoenas demand that the materials requested be turned over “for inspection, testing or sampling” at a later date.

    Phoenix elections attorney Jim Barton said the subpoenas EXTEND FAR BEYOND WHAT IS ALLOWED BY LAW.

    “Looking at (the laws), there is no way to interpret this power as extending to producing physical evidence for testing,” he said. “So, yeah, they can ask for these things, but the County Recorder CANNOT BE COMPELLED or SANCTIONED for NON-COMPLIANCE.”

  25. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Artax, in addition to your excellent riposte to the Fellow’s continued disinformation there is the more problematic concern that the legislative body is seeking to delve into the voting details of constituents… that data must always be secretly held as an absolute sacred trust.

    So beyond the specifics of the law, this continued push by Republicans to find the ghost of fraudalent votes is unlikely to ever materialize based on the sanctity of the voting process.

    It is reported that Arizona is one of the states that have a PAPER trail for ALL ballots done at the electronic machines so it remains difficult to grasp how the electronics can be manipulated to add votes with no originating paper ballot.

    Of course it would be ludicrous that voting devices would be networked or internet connected thus any hack would have to be done at each machine … a very detailed process that would have to be a conspiratorial inside job by voting officials.

    There is really a mere ghost of a chance that there is any provable technology malfeasance and that any wrongdoing affected so many votes to change the outcome…. but yet we have this comprehensive assault of election systems because POTUS says so.

    This man’s dark and pervasive influence should concern the entire world.


  26. de pedantic DribblerDecember 20, 2020 8:42 PM

    Of course it would be ludicrous that voting devices would be networked or internet connected …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Junior,

    You have not been following this thing too closely.

    The machines were connected to the internet!!

    This had been known since January 2020!!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436


  27. D-16 and counting!!

    When we get to Christmas we will start the music as we start counting up to 12.


  28. All lies, all the time! John Knox just cannot help it.

    I have heard about such people. I have not encountered them until now!

    Ah well! I had fifty good years!

  29. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @John, respectfully but u are quite disingenuous and full of BS.

    1.As u note that was reported back at the start of this year… and thus I repeat it would be ludicrous to expect individual voting devices to be net connected.

    All states have for years moved to separate all systems from net connectivity and when tech experts and voting systems manufacturers speak before congress that issue and the inherent security lapse is well ventilated.

    Those systems (backend) were connected to speedily report final results but (most) iindividual devices across the US are not connected.

    2.The main point STILL u cant REFUTE… these systems except those in 4 or 5 states (none under the BS fraud claims) ALL have PAPER TRAIL ballots.

    How do you HACK PAPER… Mr BSer!


  30. Just here watching the Yanks trying to fit up another Libyan for the Lockerbie bombing 32 years ago. I remember it well. We were gathering in Holborn for our staff Xmas lunch when we were called back to the office. The end result was days of covering the disaster.
    Sadly, the US s still convinced the Gaddafi had something to do with it. No other investigative agency shares that view. What is justice as long as someone pays a price? Barr’s pound of flesh.


  31. Hal
    I can go beat you on your Pan Am war story with some much better oneupmanship in a different category with inside knowledge
    I was at Pan Am in Rockleigh NJ at the time and had to spend Xmas Holidays on OT calling up relatives of the passengers to ask if they have any identifying body marks, dental records or jewellery we could use for our investigation.

    A couple of years later I also gave Tom Plaskett the chairman a newspaper report from Toronto outlining how it was an inside CIA job as two agents called their parents during a mission (which is something agents never do) and told them they were coming home, as they were going to blow the whistle on CIA’s Iran Contra black ops guns for drugs smuggling juggling using Pan Ams network, but the plane blew up and Scotland Yard allowed CIA access to retrieve their indestructible briefcases containing money and heroin. He tried to take the Feds to Courts, but US Government blew the case out on security issues.



  32. de pedantic DribblerDecember 21, 2020 10:43 AM

    How do you HACK PAPER… Mr BSer!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mail in ballots come in envelopes.

    Once they are separated from their envelopes there is no way of knowing if they are fraudulent ballots or legal votes to be counted.

    Went through the calculations back in November to calculate how many ballots Beijing Bob needed to get once the counting stopped with Trump leading by hundreds of thousands.

    This is pretty elementary stuff!!


  33. Junior

    Once the paper trail is compromised, all the recounts in the world won’t give any different results.

    That’s why there is a legal principle, FVE, Fraud Vitiates Everything.

    Need to audit and check it is possible to match mail in ballot signatures with envelopes to prove fraud.

    The courts are yet to address the evidence and make this happen.

    Saying there is no evidence because courts have not addressed it is completely ludicrous, laughable


  34. Looks like some people are suffering Anaphylaxis after receiving the COVID vaccine.

    Ferrol or Shark Oil is good.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nanoparticles-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions

    Now we hear a second virus is prevalent in the UK.

    Will the current vaccine work on this?

    Ferrol, Shark Oil and commonsense.

    Throw in some Vitamin D and UV and some hydoxychloroquine and Bob’s your uncle.

    Masks as placebos will also work for some fragile folks!!

    pla·ce·bo
    /pləˈsēbō/
    noun
    a harmless pill, medicine, or procedure prescribed more for the psychological benefit to the patient than for any physiological effect.
    “his Aunt Beatrice had been kept alive on sympathy and placebos for thirty years”
    a substance that has no therapeutic effect, used as a control in testing new drugs.
    a measure designed merely to calm or please someone.
    “pacified by the placebos of the previous year, they claimed a moral victory”

    an·a·phy·lax·is
    /ˌanəfəˈlaksəs/
    noun
    MEDICINE
    an acute allergic reaction to an antigen (e.g. a bee sting) to which the body has become hypersensitive.

  35. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Oh how wonders never cease to amaze and BS.

    It is elementary by your reckoning that ‘”Once [mail ballots] are separated from their envelopes there is no way of knowing if they are fraudulent ballots or legal votes to be counted” yet the ENTIRE legal BS centers on proving that impossibility!

    You and your idol’s team of lawyers are CHARLATANS and fabricators …

    There is no WONDER by rational people why the courts have dismissed this BS … when you guys continue to lay claims you simply amplify the ridiculousness and ‘frivolity’ of these impossible to prove allegations.

    But THAT is the entire point .. to create mischief and confusion of an impossibility moulded into a fallacy.


  36. “Went through the calculations back in November to calculate how many ballots Beijing Bob needed to get once the counting stopped with Trump leading by hundreds of thousands.”

    It is not done just like that. He has to win in several different electoral districts in order to overcome any deficit. To arrange a win here and there and at a moment’s notice would be an impossible task.

    You are making it up.


  37. john
    this is very interesting
    dont know if you have seen this one

    BASIC MATH PROVES BIDEN WON 13 MILLION MORE VOTES THAN ELIGIBLE VOTERS
    Cooter COOTER DECEMBER 22, 2020

    Supposedly, Joe Biden won 81 million votes. But get this, he only won 477 counties.

    THIS IS A RECORD LOW NUMBER!
    They’re trying to make us believe that President Trump won 84% of the country, but lost?
    In comparison, look at it this way, former President Obama won the election in 2008 with 69 million votes. This was massive! When he won that election, he only won 873 counties to get that 69 million votes.
    We’re supposed to believe that Joe Biden won an extra 12 million votes on top of what President Obama did in his historic election with almost half of the number of countries that Obama had?

    Now, let’s look at the simple math that makes it painfully clear that there was fraud in this election.
    It’s declared that President Trump won 74 million votes. No one is accusing him of any voter fraud, in fact, Democrats are saying that there was no fraud.

    There are 213.8 million registered voters in the United States and the voter turnout across the country was about 66.2%. This equals 141.5 million voters who voted this year. Okay, boys and girls…what’s 141.5M – 74M =?

    The answer is 67.5M. That’s how many possible votes remained. So how on earth does Joe Biden have another 13 million votes on top of that number?

    Boy, I really hope that the case is good enough for the Supreme Court to be able to legally do something about this.

    this chap is hoping in vain
    but it is clear that nuf tiefing went on
    and many officials have been intimidated and bought out
    man they do a lot of funny tings and bobol in de usa
    just listen to the rubbish dr falsy doing and saying
    watch the jack ass bray now
    i gwine back here and listen to king’s college choir sing
    we modelled ourselves on that choir at ch ch parish ch in the sixties
    have a great holiday season John


  38. To the number mavens

    What is the over/under for number of pardons that Trump will grant?


  39. How many will be family members?


  40. First the big lie
    “There are 213.8 million registered voters in the United States and the voter turnout across the country was about 66.2%. This equals 141.5 million voters who voted this year.”
    Then the “startling truth
    “Okay, boys and girls…what’s 141.5M – 74M =?”

    For both parties, voter turnout was record-breaking. According to Bloomberg, at least 161 million Americans voted in the 2020 election, the largest number of voters in a U.S. presidential election in history.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/elections/voter-turnout/


  41. Let’s say you have 100 eligible voters, 60 registered voters and 20 people who voted.
    Therefore, 20% (20/100) of eligible voters voted.
    You cannot then take 20% of 60=12 and claim that there were 8 more votes coun than actually voted .

    Note that the percentage of registered voters who voted is 33.33%.


  42. More pardons and as posted hear earlier Kushner Sr. Is included


  43. Drain the swamp! Pardon all the rich, white, corrupt friends, ass and family members so there will no record of their crimes. And white men who murder non-whites.

    Then…. execute all the poor black murderers on death row and a woman who had the gall to be traumatised by being sex trafficked and gang raped.

    Trump is living his dream! And his nightmare at the same time.

    January 6th soon come. Then January 20th.

    I watch the banana republic’s reality tv show end just as I knew it would.

    One big mess!


  44. Ain’t white men and their countries superior!

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