A Time for Choosing

The following was submitted to traditional media and Barbados Underground by Khaleel – David, Blogmaster

Like most Barbadians, I have not been tempted to engage with the debacle surrounding the statue of Lord Nelson. Many of us realize that, instead, now is the time to look toward meaningful change for people and address burning problems in this country. 

The inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege is chief among theseWe must together discuss how we might solve that. How can government accelerate its manifesto commitment for a Sovereign Wealth Fund,  to assist in creating generational wealth for Barbadians? How can this Government can expand and institutionalise its existing policy of reserving a certain portion of work done on behalf of government to small enterprises, such as small contractors, artisans and joiners, to ensure economic opportunity for there persons. How can the credit union movement finally reach its goal of a credit union bank to be able to more fulsomely secure the financial interests of its members, most of whom are “ordinary Bajans”? How can we get another push in housing and land to ensure that the most disadvantaged have the opportunity to own their homes? How can we go about reforming education, beyond engineering a new transition from primary to secondary? How can we build upon recently started programmes in robotics as well as increase focus in technical and vocational areas to maximize the economic and indeed personal potential of our nation’s students? How does Barbados lead the charge regionally as we boldly step into the knowledge-based economy? How can we develop competitive advantage in this respect? Can we combine a renewed push in agriculture through the incentivisation of farming for young people with a drive towards leading the region in AgriTech, and do so in a way which brings on board the marginalized, through the creation of educational opportunity? How do we reconfigure our tourism product to be more nimble in these perilous times while also ensuring that the industry remains a source of wealth creation for “ordinary individuals”? How do we ensure we achieve these and more to create economic opportunity as well as social aggrandizement, and in so doing hopefully lessen the allure of organized criminal activity? How do we go about fixing families and communities to solve the same? How do we set about a comprehensive programme for the reintegration of ex-convicts into society, not only to reduce recidivism but also to ensure we don’t waste the potential of those individuals? How do we ensure that each and every one of us walk the talk of fundamental change in our own private lives, rather than simply clamoring for others or for institutions to change? Most pressingly, how do we move forward in the uncertain post-COVID environment?

These are all questions in desperate need of discussion. All of that is not only about economic survival. It is about the continued viability of the “Idea of Barbados” as posited by Ralph Gonsalves. In concluding his treatise on the subject he wisely counselled, “we must have faith that the idea of Barbados will endure, but faith is made complete or perfect with deeds.” We should use our collective energies to complete that faith and to perfect the Idea of Barbados. Let us not squander this moment by paralyzing the country in needless division. To mix the speeches of two American presidents, now is the time for choosing, for our rendezvous with destiny awaits.

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  • “inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege”

    Well observed. While the black masses are starving and unemployed, the former DLP ministers are bragging about their monstrous pensions.

    It’s time to abolish the privileges of the blue elite! Let us overthrow not only Nelson, but also Barrow, the architect of the Barbadian apartheid, where the blue upper class oppresses the black masses.

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  • If in 2020 Barbados cannot even take down a statue glorifying a racist defender of slavery, there is zero possibility that it will be able to achieve any of the above. Rather than being a diversion, the Nelson issue is an indicator of the possibilities of change in Barbados.

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  • Koochie Koo greatest hits.
    A word salad.

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  • Quoting Gonsalves…hope he has not become your role model, a rabbit hole you don’t want to fall in..

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  • “Idea of Barbados”

    From where did Ralph Gonzalves copy that concept?

    Isn’t he confusing equality of opportunity with equality of outcome?

    … and for what reason?

    A few more questions to add to the list.

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  • what a nothing piece.

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  • @Greene

    Why is it a nothing piece in your opinion? Are the questions not useful to understand what it will take to build a wholesome society?

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  • @ Tee White

    What are we going to do about the ‘coloured’ slaveowners’ descendants? Give them a pass?

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  • KK doesn’t want to engage with the divisive topic of Nelson but manages to write about it in his first sentence, it is amazing that someone born in the 21st century is so wedded to 1940’s thinking that his opinion on Nelson mirrors that era.

    In the jumble of “how do we’s” not one “how do we” achieve FOI or Integrity in Public life legislation that the Gov’t he supports has been diddling over the past two years, I guess he doesn’t want to engage in those divisive topics either.

    All in all a regurgitation of what we have heard before, a nothing burger.

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  • David,

    do you think tearing down Nelson would distract us from contemplating such questions? dont you think we can do more than one thing at the same time? what is novel about the questions?

    the piece is rather insulting in that regard

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  • @Greene

    Not disagreeing with you. Your follow up comment is more constructive if Khaleel wants to improve his public communication ‘pieces’.

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  • Why not sell Lord Nelson statute back to the British? Can’t we find some rich Brit willing to pay a few million for him? What about an auction?? Let us, at least, get some money for him…. don’t let him go ‘free’!!

    If no one in his motherland want him…. maybe Antigua will take him outta here… they got a tourist attraction called Nelson’s Dockyard. No tourists come to Barbados to see Nelson…. and we ain’t got no money to waste on a Naval Museum…. so sell him!!!

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  • @KK

    One word my friend….PARAGRAPHS…..would make your contribution alot easier to read.

    Valid questions but all asked before.

    Answers and actions to implement and move beyond the rhetoric is what is needed at this critical stage

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ KK

    Excellent piece.You have gone for the juggler

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  • jugular ?

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  • @Hants

    As stated Vincent’s comment makes a lot of cents (deliberate) lol

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  • Long on questions, short on answers, shorter on identifying the systemic issues that have placed us where we are.

    Can we have faith that our political leaders through their deeds will choose to do what is right and just as we rendezvous with the destiny that is the perfect idea of Barbados?

    Just observing

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  • Hal AustinJune 27, 2020 7:29 AM

    @ Tee White

    What are we going to do about the ‘coloured’ slaveowners’ descendants? Give them a pass?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now for something completely different!!

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ KK
    For a young person with a future in this country it is a correct choice to concentrate on those issues which matter and they are many. Any serious discussant must like a juggler keep the rings in the air and not lose sight of them
    .Please ignore the distractions and the detractors. They do what they know and do best. They ST every blog. The blog ask that they express a view on the crucial issues you raised and they confront you with non sequitur. Simply because they do not want to do any deep thinking. They want to repeat mantras. These mantras are supposed to solve bread and butter issues. They involve dollars and cents but all they have to offer is nonsense.

    Continue smartly , son. They are many young thinkers out there like you. bright and engaged.Yes you have to juggle.

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  • @ Koochie Koo, the politically naive Kiddie:

    “These are all questions in desperate need of discussion. All of that is not only about economic survival. It is about the continued viability of the “Idea of Barbados” as posited by Ralph Gonsalves.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    All the ‘practical’ answers to your trite questions are all proposed and documented in the various manifestos of both major political parties containing the pledges and promises to the people and published over the years.

    The ‘workable’ solutions to all the burning problems facing Bim are conveniently and ‘honestly’ summarised in the most recent incarnation called the “Covenant of Hope” for which the vast majority of Bajan voters expressed their unquestionable support by marking the exam 100% in favour of the red horse advertising the gospel of political change and socio-economic advancement for the masses.

    Now go and read your own ‘little red book’ for the meaning of the Idea of “BARBADOS” aka “Building The Best Barbados Together”!

    Now don’t let the lifeless Nelson be any distraction to divert your Queen from her Joan of Arc mission of saving Barbados from the political confusion and economic dislocation left by the last destructive lying party.

    Don’t use Covid as a ‘blind’ to renege of any promises related to the improvement of governance like the long overdue ITAL and FOI so that the citizens can keep a scorecard on the ‘outstanding’ performance your ‘red’ administration has committed to achieving in order to stay in the ‘black of electoral accounting.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    The ideology of Barbados is very much alive. We continue to solve our problems using effectively the intellectual ,human ,and material resources at our disposal. Very often our leaders have to block out the noises coming from the uninformed.

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  • There’s a song for everything and that one was a perfect hit, TheO.

    But to be fair to Koochie Koo, at his age he SHOULD have more questions than answers. Except for the Nelson part where he still disrespected his elders who have tried in vain to explain the importance of symbols and symbolism, Koochie Koo has finally taken his rightful place.

    He should continue to ask questions, the right questions and he should listen to those who have been searching for answers for longer than he’s been alive and then he should offer his opinion with all due respect.

    It is his tone with his elders that is the problem. He is so sure he knows all and we know nothing.

    While it may be true that we have not got all the answers, much of our problem is caused by a lack of action rather than a lack of knowledge of what needs to be done.

    Koochie Koo is young and therefore lacking the fear that hinders some of us elders and his youth gives him the energy we may not have.

    He would do well if only he would learnthat he still has much to learn.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John

    “The Idea of Barbados” was the theme of a lecture that Ralph Gonsalves gave in Barbados about a decade ago. Please google. It is his expression of his understanding of the Barbadian psyche. Yes. We are an item of interest for most people .There is something special about us that intrigue outsiders.
    Graduates of most universities are supposed to be intellectually creative.He did not have to get his concept from some body else. The difference between learning by rote and being bright.

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  • @Vincent

    If memory serves the lecture was well received.

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  • For once a serious note from Tron:

    K2 still has to learn to structure his thought in terms of content and to form more paragraphs.

    We do not need any open questions, but for each complex of problems the following steps:

    description of the facts of the case
    problem analysis
    proposed solution / thesis /conslusion.

    K2 laments like a typical Caribbean, i.e. with a lot of euphemism, instead of calling a spade a spade. Let me show you the difference.

    A man in an underdeveloped country in the Caribbean says: “At the moment there are objects floating in the streets that remind me of my youth. God help us. The white man is to blame for everything. We are not to blame for anything, we are totally traumatized by fifty years of independence and self-governance. Perhaps we need foreign advisors to explore the problem.

    A man in a developed country would describe the same situation like this:
    Shit floats in the street because the sewers burst due to lack of maintenance. So we need a contractor to open up the road and repair the pipes. I already have an estimate and I already know how we will pay for it.

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  • Khaleel is as entitled as anyone here to post his views. If he is smart he will learn for it.

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  • RE The difference between learning by rote and being bright.

    IT HAS BEEN MY OBSERVATION FROM PRIMARY SCHOOL THAT DUNCES CAN NOT LEARN BY ROTE…DUNCES DO NOT LEARN BY ROTE VERY WELL AT ALL

    I ALSO LEARNED THAT BRIGHT PERSONS LEARN BY ROTE BEST
    I ALSO LEARNED THAT LEARNING BY ROTE IS FOUNDATIONAL c.f. 1 2 3 ABC DOH REY ME
    IN PATHOLOGY IT IS TIN CAN BED MIDI
    IN HISTOLOGY IT IS THE FOUR BASIC TISSUE TYPES

    IF YOU DONT MASTER THESE THINGS BY ROTE………YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO APPLY THEM

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  • “The inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege” has its roots in our colonial history. And should be seen as a serious omission on the part of the young verdant KK. Is it acceptable that the history of Barbados should be whitewashed so as not to disturb our economy – in order to maintain a corrupt status quo; which appears unwilling to introduce true equity to the majority population.

    The western world is been made to face its terrible colonial past and to question all what it has stood for. Yet on the island which created the ultimate plantation prototype our government appears to be mute.

    Barbados wealth was made possible by her African slaves; and it will prosper again once it truly liberates her African majority population.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David at 12:59 PM

    Yes. The lecture was well received. He is a good lecturer and an engaging personality. We lived in the same Hall and we were in the same Faculty.He was a year behind. .
    You may also remember the debates between him and Tom Adams in the press. The Adamses (Grantley and Tom) hardly debated with persons who had little to contribute to an issue.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU

    A wise person never stops learning. Our education system is designed to inculcate in the student the habit of continuous learning. A body of knowledge has a shelf life. It is seldom static.
    In my career/profession the money and financial system has gone through three defining changes in fifty years. Economic and Financial history is interesting ,but we have to solve today’s problems with relevant effective policies.
    We need to transfer the same methodology to other social problems. No time for regrets. No time for sentimentality. Time for solutions of today’s problems. We have no time for correcting the past ,even if it were possible.

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  • There is something special about us that intrigue outsiders….(Quote)

    Wow!

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  • A wise person never stops learning. Our education system is designed to inculcate in the student the habit of continuous learning. A body of knowledge has a shelf life.

    A WISE PERSON DOES NOT THROW OUT THE BASICS LEARNED BY ROTE
    CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE DOES NOT HAVE A SHELF LIFE

    IN MY PROFESSION NONE OF THE BASIC SCIENCES HAVE A SHELF LIFE
    THE BASIC EXAM TECHNIQUES LEARNED BY ROTE DO NOT HAVE A SHELF LIFE
    CARPENTRY AMD MASONRY AND PLUMBING TECHNIQUES LEARNED BY ROTE DO NOT HAVE A SHELF LIFE EITHER
    THE WORD OF GOD DOES NOT HAVE A SHELF LIFE EITHER

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  • @Vincent

    Cannot agree more with your musing. So many of us limit ourselves to what we learnt and suppress the opportunity to learn new things. Without realizing it we become anchored to the problem and block the opportunity to be part of the solution.

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  • Can some kind soul please explain to the Dullard what is this “Idea of Barbados” ?

    How does this “Idea of Barbados” compare to the “Reality of Barbados”?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 2:04 PM
    Yes. We do. We have a tendency to hold onto baggage. . For the three/four years or so that I have been on your Blog I have learnt a lot about my fellow Barbadians that I would never have learnt from a text book. It has taught me that unless policy makers understand its citizens, policies ,however well intentioned or conceived will be a failure. We need to understand how Barbadians think and what their expectations are.

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  • RE So many of us limit ourselves to what we learnt and suppress the opportunity to learn new things.
    THERE IS A NEED FOR BALANCE
    what we learnt IS VERY IMPORTANT CAUSE YOU HAVE TO START SOME WHERE AS I HAVE CORRECTLY POINTED OUT ABOVE IN SEVERAL SCENARIOS
    THIS DOES NOT CAUSE ANY ONE TO SUPPRESS the opportunity to learn new things.
    THERE IS A NEED FOR BALANCE
    JUST AS THE THINGS LEARNED IN THE PAST MIGHT HAVE BEEN LEARNED BY ROTE NEW THINGS WILL MOST LIKELY BE LEARNED BY ROTE ALSO BY MOST UNLESS THE LEARNING OF THE NEW THINGS WERE A RESULT OF APPLYING THE OLD THINGS LEARNED BY ROTE uh lie?

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  • @ Vincent

    Do you mean that exceptionalism? The Bajan Condition? You are perceptive.

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  • re
    For the three/four years or so that I have been on your Blog I have learnt a lot about my fellow Barbadians that I would never have learnt from a text book. It has taught me that unless policy makers understand its citizens, policies ,however well intentioned or conceived will be a failure. We need to understand how Barbadians think and what their expectations are.

    BAJANS ARE NO DIFFERENT TO ANY OTHER PEOPLE ANYWHERE
    THEY ARE WELL DESCRIBED IN ROMANS 1:21 ET SECQ AND IN ROMANS 3:10-18
    ROMANS 1:21 ET SECQ
    THIS CAN NOT BE REFUTED

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    ROMANS 3:10-18
    10 As it is written:

    “There is none righteous, no, not one;
    11 There is none who understands;
    There is none who seeks after God.
    12 They have all turned aside;
    They have together become unprofitable;
    There is none who does good, no, not one.”
    13 “Their throat is an open [d]tomb;
    With their tongues they have practiced deceit”;
    “The poison of asps is under their lips”;
    14 “Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.”
    15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
    16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;
    17 And the way of peace they have not known.”
    18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

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  • the basis of any learning is by rote and then you learn to analyse. we have had this discussion many time before. but oh well

    what education really teaches us, is how little we actually know

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  • BAJANS ARE NO DIFFERENT TO ANY OTHER PEOPLE ANYWHERE
    THEY ARE WELL DESCRIBED BELOW TOO

    Listen to what our Lord says in Mark 7:14. “He called the crowd to Him again, He began saying to them, ‘Listen to Me, all of you, and understand.’ – here’s the ultimate insight – ‘There is nothing outside the man which can defile him if it goes into him. The things which proceed out of the man are what defile the man.’” Did you hear that? You are not what you are because of something outside of you, but because of what is inside of you. That is the truth stated. Defilement is on the inside.

    Go down to verse 18: “Are you so lacking in understanding? Are you this foolish that you don’t know this? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it doesn’t go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?” And Matthew actually uses the word for toilet. The problem is not something that’s outside of you that gets inside of you, the problem is what is inside of you coming out of you.

    Verse 20: “He was saying, ‘That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, and foolishness. All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man.” Here’s the truth: you are not wicked because of what happened to you on the outside, you’re wicked because of who you are on the inside. There’s something wrong with your heart, verse 21, not the physical pump, but the inner self, including the mind, thought, attitude, motive, desire, source of all your thinking, because it’s how you think that you act.
    This is a profound look at the condition of the human heart. “For from within,” – ek tēs kardias – “out of the heart comes forth,” and Mark includes twelve items. The first six are plural and the second six are singular. The first six are acts and the second six are attitudes.

    “From within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts,” bad ideas, bad plans, bad designs, bad intentions, bad motives. James 1: “Sin conceives in the heart.” “Fornications,” porneia, from where we get the word “pornography”; all kinds of deviant sexual sin. “Thefts, murders, adulteries,” moicheia, sex of any kind that violates a marriage covenant.
    “Deeds of coveting,” greediness. Greediness behind so much sin. Was there ever a thief who wasn’t greedy? Was there ever a rioter who looted that wasn’t greedy? “Wickedness,” ponēria. That is malicious evil, evil that intends to act with malice that harms people.

    And then there’s “deceit,” lying. “Sensuality,” aselgeia. That essentially is lasciviousness, lewdness of behavior and speech. And then much like coveting comes “envy.” Envy leads to coveting. Literally an evil eye. You look at something and you want it, and you hate the person who has it. “Slander,” blasphēmia, abusive, blasphemous speech. “Pride,” feeling superior. “Foolishness,” senselessness.

    “All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man.” And you know who he’s talking to? Talking to the religious leaders in Israel. He’s talking to the leaders back in chapter 7, verse 1, the Pharisees, the scribes. And they were talking about being clean. And they were criticizing Jesus because Jesus didn’t go through the washing of hands, the ceremonial washing of hands. And so our Lord is saying to them, “Your hands are clean, but your hearts are foul,” as if you could do anything to please God by washing your hands. All your defilement comes from inside. Verse 23, “All of it comes from within.” You need a new heart. You need a new heart.

    So the truth of God is unmistakably clear about the problem of evil. All people are sinners, without an exception. We know they’re all sinners because everybody dies; and the wages of sin is death. Not all are equally sinful, but all are bent in the same direction; and if you allow them to, they will run their wretchedness as far as you will let them. Some will stop just short of the line. Some will go over the line and have to be dealt with by force. But notice this: crime will rise; open, flagrant crime will rise at the same rate that you lessen the laws against evil. Tolerate ANYTHING and you’ll have a flood of it.

    Humans are dangerous, they’re deadly dangerous, and the job of controlling them becomes harder and harder. And, oh, by the way, crime also rises at the rate of technological advancement. Now we have a whole new kind of crime: cybercrime. Well, whatever you invent, man will criminalize.

    Now all that leads to very important consideration. Since humanity is so deceitful and so depraved and so degenerate and so dangerous, so destructive, so deadly, how did God ever expect us to survive? Are we just a whole planet living out the Lord of the Flies? How did God expect us to get through this life with any measure of meaning and joy, fulfillment, value? How did God ever expect us to mitigate these sinful passions so that we could civilize, socialize, survive?
    Well, God put some restraints into human life. They are critical to civilization surviving. And where they are carefully and strongly maintained, life is good and people enjoy their life. When those restraints are assaulted, corrupted, diminished, or destroyed,

    BAJANS ARE LIKE THE ABOVE——LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

    WHAT BAJAN EXCEPTUALISM WHAT?

    THE HEART IS DECEITFUL ABOVE ALL THINGS AND DESPERATELY WICKED

    BAJANS ARE LIKE THIS WITH DECEITFUL HEARTS ——LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

    WHAT BAJAN EXCEPTUALISM WHAT?

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  • David,

    I hope you were not refering to me because I took great pains to agree that KK should give his opinion.

    But…someone who posts with a true name and a photograph needs to be respectful when speaking to his elders. This is the same advice I gave to my son when he wanted to tear into Grenville for calling me a hater. There is a way to get a point across to an elder without being disrespectful. My son stands up for what he believes in as I have taught him but he is not allowed to use a disrespectful tone to people old enough to be his parent or grandparent.

    That does not end well for any young person. It brands them in an unfavourable way that has consequences.

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  • @ Tron

    I do not know who you are or your background, but your quote below is well put. Those who are serious about communicating should read it and study it thoroughly.

    A man in an underdeveloped country in the Caribbean says: “At the moment there are objects floating in the streets that remind me of my youth. God help us. The white man is to blame for everything. We are not to blame for anything, we are totally traumatized by fifty years of independence and self-governance. Perhaps we need foreign advisors to explore the problem.

    A man in a developed country would describe the same situation like this:
    Shit floats in the street because the sewers burst due to lack of maintenance. So we need a contractor to open up the road and repair the pipes. I already have an estimate and I already know how we will pay for it…(Quote)

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  • @ Hal Austin

    What are we going to do about the ‘coloured’ slaveowners’ descendants?

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    I’m not suggesting doing anything about anybody’s descendants.

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  • @ Tron

    K2 laments like a typical Caribbean, i.e. with a lot of euphemism, instead of calling a spade a spade. Let me show you the difference.

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    That is the working of the colonised mind. It’s the way of thinking that says we have to have the system of ‘representative democracy’, which was devised by English merchants in the middle of the 17th century to achieve their economic and political goals, because the colonial master says it’s the only democratic political system. It’s the thinking that says the government’s finances are in a mess so let’s call in Bert van Selm and his IMF team. The Dutchman and his European colleagues will know what’s best for Buhbadus cause the colonial master always knows what’s best. It’s the same mentality that has African people dressed in suit and tie in the boiling hot sun because that’s the way the colonial master says is appropriate to dress.

    For Pete’s sake, we can’t even take down a statue to a damn racist in a country where over 95% of the population are descended from the enslaved Africans and we celebrate the arrival of the slavemasters in Holetown in 1627. So yes, there’s a lot of work to be done to cure the virus of colonial mentality.

    TLSN has said it all
    “Barbados wealth was made possible by her African slaves; and it will prosper again once it truly liberates her African majority population”.

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  • @Tee White
    For Pete’s sake, we can’t even take down a statue to a damn racist in a country where over 95% of the population are descended from the enslaved Africans and we celebrate the arrival of the slavemasters in Holetown in 1627.
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    We even celebrate the “Carolina connection” where English slave masters who originally settled in Barbados resettled in Carolina taking their slaves with them and in time adopted the harshest penalties in the world (based on the prevailing slave codes in Barbados) for any offence committed by a slave.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Khaleel
    It is entirely à propos at your age to be asking these questions of your elders. It is disappointing that none of us have so far taken you seriously, preferring to indulge instead in getting on top of favourite soap boxes to regurgitate their favorite opiate.

    You correctly outline the major problem as “The inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege is chief among these.” But then you take a leap of faith to assume that the solution is “a Sovereign Wealth Fund…” which is a BLP manifesto promise. Sadly, a Sovereign Wealth Fund with no source of sovereign wealth is just a string of words with no impact. Barbados currently has no source of sovereign wealth to capitalize a sovereign wealth fund.

    Barbados is sick; you have asserted this, and there is not a single response or comment which disagrees with you on this basic point. However, before you prescribe a treatment you will need to diagnose the disease. You may have thought that you already did that when you highlighted “inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege,” but this is just the naming of symptoms. The disease is the underlying malfunction that causes these symptoms. To seek a diagnosis we need to take the patient’s history.

    The symptoms are “inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege…” the onset of these symptoms occurred in 1627 and became exacerbated in 1661 with the Act for the Better Ordering and Governing of Negroes. This legislation formally established White supremacist ideology by categorizing people of African descent as sub-human. The triad of legal domination, economic domination, and social domination constituted White supremacist ideology. The Slavery Abolition Act, (1833) changed the terms of the legal domination, but did not eliminate it. Over the past 187 years the legal domination has been substantially eliminated bit by bit, but the economic domination and social domination survive in very large part. This is why the “inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege” are so difficult to dislodge, they are rooted in deeply entrenched White supremacist ideology that is 400 years deep.

    That is why a Sovereign Wealth Fund without any wealth is not going to get us where we need to go. We need much stronger medicine.

    We need to re-engineer our economy from the ground up. This can’t be accomplished overnight, but everyone can play their part by deliberately spending money only with those businesses that place the interests of the majority community to the forefront. Stop shopping at Massy… buy everything you need from roadside vendors, Cheapside Market, and Mighty Gryner Hwy. Find artisanal small business vendors on Instagram: buy from Churn instead of BICO, Agape Chocolate instead of Cadbury, find a neighbour raising chickens and spend your money there rather than Chickmont Foods, etc. etc…

    We need to use social media to help us build a much more widely distributed economy, and also to completely boycott businesses, (whether White owned, Black owned, Syrian owned, or Asian owned) who do not get on board with a national project to pursue an equitable “distribution of economic power and social privilege.”

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  • The BU gang love to pummel the “political class” and non-blacks. Start a conversation about the inequitable distribution of wealth/privilege and they deflect because them got the privileged school ties, addresses and connections. Remember what I said few weeks ago? Um all coming to pass.🤔 #scapegoating

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  • @ Tee White June 27, 2020 6:03 PM

    ” It’s the same mentality that has African people dressed in suit and tie in the boiling hot sun because that’s the way the colonial master says is appropriate to dress.”

    Yes and no. In fact, the natives of Barbados walk around like schooled servants. But WHO really want that? White folks from the North, certainly not. Many guards have turned away whites at government buildings because they wanted to enter with shorts and tropical clothing. Especially the Supreme Court appears to be a colonial museum for outsiders. If the people in the office dressed properly, i.e. shorts etc. pp., we would also need less air conditioning.

    “we can’t even take down a statue to a damn racist in a country where over 95% of the population are descended from the enslaved Africans”

    I agree. I think it’s time to replace Nelson with Mia Mottley.

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  • @ peterlawrencethompson June 27, 2020 7:27 PM

    The phenomenon you describe is not confined to the Caribbean or the USA. Yes, especially pronounced for the former slaves, but it is a general historical and social phenomenon. Almost all European countries abolished serfdom simultaneously with the end of slavery. The problems are similar to those in Barbados after 1834: an impoverished and disenfranchised rural population, then (unlike in the Caribbean) the industrial proletariat, where 10 people lived in a single room, etc. It was not until the Second World War that many conservative social structures were destroyed there.

    In some cases, however, the “old order” of the time before 1800 has been preserved until today … Take a look at Great Britain. If you were born into the working class there, you don’t have a real chance of advancement. Look at the politicians of the Tories. A lot of upper class.

    Or look at Barbados. Indeed, in Barbados we never had a disruptive event like the Second World War. Not even independence has really turned things upside down. Hence the conservative structures.

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  • William Skinner

    @ PLT
    I think that Mr. Kothdiwala needs no baby sitting. I listened to him on Brasstacks and he is no different from many of us , who in our youth found ourselves perhaps idolizing a Barrow or Grantley Adams. What I find strange is that we often ask the youth to be engaged but we seem to want them to do so on our terms. Once he is confident enough to come in the kitchen, I figure he is good enough to take and give heat.
    Quite frankly I don’t agree with about 90 % of what he says because he is obviously seeing things from his party’s position and may I add that if he were a Dee my position would be the same.
    I was also mildly amused when I read a comment or two that he must pay homage to his elders on BU. I also read where he was being given some advice on how to grow. The irony of it is that so far , he has demonstrated a lot more maturity than some of the elders on this blog who come here to defend the BLP or DLP at all costs. He has certainly exposed their limitations and that is why they are trying to godfather him , in order to make themselves appear to be architects.
    So, I look forward to engaging him like all others that I engage on BU.
    At least the party loyalists from both sides can now boast that at last George Street and Roebuck Street have at least one voice on BU that can put a party position intelligently.

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  • An ardent supporter of the Gov’t with a 30-0 majority in parliament poses a series of questions on BU, notorious by their absence is any mention of FOI and Integrity legislation which the leader of the party he supports pledged to enact. Also, he doesn’t want to discuss the current hot button “divisive” issue of Nelson’ removal, he only wants to debate what he believes is important to him although the many issues he references have been raised in one form or another over the years on BU. Perhaps he can advance these issues in his private tête-à-tête with the PM and her advisors.

    As to the current inequity on wealth distribution the Gov’t is making headway on that issue with its Oprahesque give away of Ministries (who wants a Ministry?) and familial employment.

    Many hands make light work.

    The above is a work of fiction any references to individuals living or dead, school ties, addresses, connections and events are purely coincidental and products of the writer’s imagination.

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  • @Tron
    I think replacing Nelson with Mia might be a wedge issue. For a start Waru, Pacha et al wouldn’t be happy and nor would the Dees. In the interest of national unity, I suggest we go with Nanny Grigg and the unknown Bajan woman. We don’t have a single public monument honouring the Bajan woman who has been pivotal in our people’s progress. Mao Tse Dung famously declared that women hold up half of the sky. I suspect that with the Bajan woman, it’s more like three quarters. Let’s recognise and honour that contribution.

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  • “Over the past 187 years the legal domination has been substantially eliminated bit by bit, but the economic domination and social domination survive in very large part. This is why the “inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege” are so difficult to dislodge, they are rooted in deeply entrenched White supremacist ideology that is 400 years deep.”

    bit by bit is a private joke, if you have access to certain circles you can ask the likes of Herbert..

    .. the only people RESPONSIBLE for the holding up of wealth distribution in Barbados, wealth that BELONGS to the majority population…are the BLACK LEADERS IN THE PARLIAMENT….

    …..they were hired to distribute the wealthy fairly and equitably and both governments in the last 50 YEARS…have ABSOLUTELY REFUSED, and continue to act as though the minorities own the country, own the government and are the only ones entitled to the people’s wealth, so they, the jokers in the parliament continue to be the PROBLEM, the ROOT CAUSE and not the solution on why it has never happened and with that ugly mindset never will under this government….and it has been made even more visible and compounded since the 2018 election, the continuation of the same wicked practices against the majority, when this government can trigger a 40 million dollar “loan” of the people’s catastrophy fund to the same exploitative parasites..just like the ripping off of the pension fund and treasury, which is NEVER REPAID..

    .but, check the link below…

    we can expound all day on their reasons why, but it can all be summed up in one word……..CORRUPTION.

    no amount of verbal gymnastics can change that reality.

    Tron…why not, and the inscription should read, here stands a reminder of the enabler of explotiation of the African descended in Barbados decades after independence, a reminder of the enabler of racism and THEFTS practiced against her own people..

    ….am all for that one or any other sell out from DBLP who dare want to put their statue in a public space as a reminder that they sell out their own even when there is no need to..

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/27/dlp-wants-answers-about-small-business-wage-fund/

    “Following a tour of approximately nine small businesses in St Michael West, today, DLP spokesperson on business and entrepreneurship, Ryan Walters told members of the media that from interacting with the owners of the enterprises, they seem not to be aware that they can access the grant funding.

    In April, Prime Minister Mia Mottley announced that the Fund will contribute $500 per month per employee up to five employees, where the employer is registered both at the Small Business Association (SBA), the Barbados Revenue Authority (BRA), and the National Insurance Scheme (NIS).

    Walter said in his opinion, the same way officials get on the ground to feel the pulse of the people, individuals should have been placed in the field to educate small businesses about the special Fund and the requirements they would need to benefit from it.

    “I get the impression that the whole wait and see is to really benefit the Government and not to benefit the scheme. If the scheme is to reach the persons that need the assistance, they should try more to get on the ground, especially now at the time where restrictions have been relaxed, where there is less protocols, and people can move a little more freely.”

    .

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  • PLT…..make no mistake, les traitres de parliament are responsible for all of that..

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  • My Dear Koochie Koo,
    I was a bit harsh and short in my initial review of your effort.mAfter considerable thought and seeing PLT’s attempt to salvage your effort, I have decided to give you a more detailed critique. It may overlap with some of what has already been said

    (1) Please do not follow Lorenzo’s style of writing. Use paragraphs
    (2) You may be on your way to university. You must be careful of how you collect and present your ideas and give credit to
    the originators of ideas. Plagiarism will be a tough charge to beat.
    (3) These questions have already been asked and some have attempted to deal with some of them already. I cannot give credit for just assembling questions in one place.
    (4) Since you assembled these questions, it would be interesting to see you attempt to tackle and answer a few them in subsequent posts. If you make this attempt, you will find that I will be one of your strongest defenders. I like to see the youngsters making bold efforts and trying to break free from old thinking.

    Looking forward to additional post from you.

    My charge to you is to “stay onboard the ship, but abandon the safety of the harbor. Be sensible in what you say, but make bold steps.

    “A ship in harbor is safe — but that is not what ships are built for.” — John A. Shedd.

    A critic and friend
    Theo

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  • There is nothing wrong with Khaleel displaying curiosity by asking questions, itis a style this blogmaster uses to be provocative or solicit other views. All writers have style, respect it. Also, he has a right to cherry-pick the issues he wants to focus. At his tender age he has done more than most.

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  • David
    Pleeeease. The gang is interested in persons not points. They therefore read to respond, often with a bariffle of strawman arguments and cherry picking. Simply uninformed retirees and near retired grown men bent on savaging a teenager just because he is pro-BLP and anti-government plays well on BU. Impressively, he remains unfazed.

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  • Modern Slavery and Woke Hypocrisy

    They waste time debating whether people who were never themselves slaves, should receive reparations from people who never owned a slave.

    To engage in all this posturing, while ignoring the staggering 40 million current victims of actual slavery, not only represents the immeasurable depths of woke hypocrisy, but constitutes an extreme insult to those who are suffering their slavery in silence, while slowly dying from the physical, sexual and emotional abuse that they are being forced to endure. If anything is “offensive,” it is that.

    • There are an estimated 136,000 people living in modern slavery just in Britain. Slavery in the UK takes the form of forced labor, and domestic and sexual exploitation. Albanians and Vietnamese are among the groups that constitute the majority of slaves. — Global Slavery Index, 2018.
    • There are currently an estimated 9.2 million black slaves in Africa. Slavery, according to the index, includes forced labor, forced sexual exploitation and forced marriage. — Global Slavery Index, 2018.
    • “According to the U.N.’s International Labor Organization (ILO), there are more than three times as many people in forced servitude today as were captured and sold during the 350-year span of the transatlantic slave trade”, Time Magazine March 14, 2019.
    • Modern slavery earns criminal networks an estimated $150 billion a year, just slightly less than drug smuggling and weapons trafficking.
    • “G-20 countries import some $354 billion worth of products at risk of being produced by modern slavery every year”. — Global Slavery Index, 2018.
    • One Malian slave, Raichatou, told the Guardian in 2013 that she became a slave at the age of seven when her mother, also a slave, died. “My father could only watch on helplessly as my mother’s master came to claim me and my brothers,” she said. She worked as a servant for the family without pay for nearly 20 years, and was forced into a marriage with another slave whom she didn’t know, so that she could supply her master with more slaves.

    Judith Bergman, a columnist, lawyer and political analyst, is a Distinguished Senior Fellow at Gatestone Institute.

    Read more @

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16152/modern-slavery

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  • There is no harm in holding Koochie Koo to the same standards that we hold others to.

    If he dons a red or blue uniform and walked out onto the battlefield then giving him a free pass is doing him a disservice. He should expect hostile and return fire from one side or the other. Some who would push him into the front-line should also expect that he would be fired on. They should have considered his age before employing him.

    I consider myself as an armed observer who will fire on anyone.

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Interesting article by young sexy black stud. Oh, I wish I can come here a bit more often and throw me SSS into the spin but sometimes reading a lot of the rubbish that is posted for intelligence ( Me included when I feel like writing shite) is just not worth my time at the moment. This ‘ask questions’ article is provocative. Must say some of them are food for thought but I cannot help notice how many times the writer alluded to WE. He said ‘We’ 11 times if I count write. All his questions attached a WE to it as if the We’s are at the main helm of the stirring handle of the broken rudder ship called ”Brek and almost ´Broke” or for short BAB. I am inclined to add a few more we’s to his 11 we’s so that it sounds very much like a familiar Bajan vernacular saying that a small Bajan child says when they want to carry out a number 1 body function: Wee, Wee! That is not to imply that the suggestions are not got, but simply to say that We have been WEE WEE on many times by We BLP and DLP that doan listen to We much. Therefore, WEdo chart the course in which Barbados should go in order to progress. We BLP and DLP were always the pioneers who drive Barbados in the direction they felt it should go, often ignoring the cries coming from WE, accept when the shit hit the fanand we are asked to tighten belts and make sacrifices. How is it possible now for all of WE to become the driving force behind:

    -The inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege.

    -How can this Government expand and institutionalise its existing policy of reserving a certain portion of work done on behalf of government to small enterprises, such as small contractors, artisans and joiners, to ensure economic opportunity for there persons?

    -And all the other things Khaleel is posting as questions?

    Just Me looking at these two really got me thinking because it seems that ”We” can input in certain things while other things are definitely not for us to influence. So no referendums, no people’s say in important decisions, and certainly no peoples influence in financial and direct big money deals.

    How many Barbadians have influential power barren the politicians and those who have privilege under the same said politicians to make any strides into influencing the controlling interest of those ‘wheeling’ and controlling the economic power? Very few I must say. After all, how much of our 99.9% literacy includes establishing black business and supporting that said black business to the point of progression and expansion. What we have is a structured set up to demolish or keep black business at a level so it can be controlled and orchestrated, while white establish businesses remains in the thick of things. We got to come grips someday that the vast majority of our people are penny foolish and pound stupid. Getting us to embrace a move to towards progressing in the direction of equitable distribution of economic power is going take a hell of reformation of our people to kick start their inward entrepreneurial skills far beyond the hawker and tray mentality, and certainly far beyond the other mindset that you are established when you become a lawyer, doctor, accountant or simply put, always working for someone else making the big money.

    Then the second one. We know that in some form or fashion, the entire business element of the island functions under a reciprocating agreement called ”scratch me back and I will scratch yours.” I mean, this goes on throughout the business world and is a channel that has enriched many aspiring and, longstanding politicians pockets. So, if for some reason the powers that be decide to give a portion of government contracts to contractors, artisans and joiners, will they come into the loop base on the ”scratch me back” policy, or left out of the loop because of their die-hard honesty. After all, honesty is not the best policy in government operations, and a small contractor who wants to be part of the pie has to have something or willing to give something back if he is to be part of the establish loop. We got to face it, the reasons proffer for small contractors not getting business cannot always stand as the reason. Ahh wuh was dah again? Afterall, Mark Maloney started out small but had the backing and he landed some serious contracts back in the day and even now.

    Thank God WE got our Prime Minister who is taking us down and honest and transparent road. Because, all the auditor general reports over the years will be addressed, and what sexy Khaleel has written here, will be looked into because Mia has embraced all of WE.
    #GodblessBarbadosandMiaMottley. SSS out.

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  • (Quote):
    You correctly outline the major problem as “The inequitable distribution of economic power and social privilege is chief among these.” But then you take a leap of faith to assume that the solution is “a Sovereign Wealth Fund…” which is a BLP manifesto promise. Sadly, a Sovereign Wealth Fund with no source of sovereign wealth is just a string of words with no impact. Barbados currently has no source of sovereign wealth to capitalize a sovereign wealth fund. (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The closest thing to a ‘Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF) Barbados ever had was the Sugar Levy.

    Sugar is now dead as a profitable source of wealth creation and the only parody left of any SWF is the ‘Consolidated Fund’ (C F).

    Barbados has no other way of accumulating wealth other than by the tried and tested method of ‘cutting and contriving’ like the households of old.

    In other words, plain simple good old fiscal and financial management of the country’s scarce economic resources as it was done in the days of Grantley Adams and his early successors.

    How can the ‘C F’ ever serve that purpose when it is regularly abused, assaulted and raided by the political class to appease and repay their masters hiding behind the scenes like “dark shadows” who funded the electoral campaigns?

    How do you explain the recent writing off from the tax collection ledgers a few billions due to the same Sovereign Fund representing the economic blood, social sweat and financial tears of the masses and poor consumers of Barbados?

    How do you explain the frequent raiding of the poor working class people’s only SWF called the NIS over the last 20 years as if it is the piggybank of the political class?

    How do you explain the demolition of relatively recently constructed solid buildings to construct wealth creating concrete monsters for a few?

    Shouldn’t the people’s advocates and financial watchdogs like “Enuff” be interested in finding out who or which “fund” is footing the bill for the demolition of other structures in Bridgetown on the cusp of losing its UNECSO World Heritage Site designation?

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  • @ Tee White June 28, 2020 12:22 AM

    A very good compromise. Agree 100 percent. We can always replace the head later… LOL.

    @ Sunshine Sunny Shine June 28, 2020 10:44 AM

    One of the best contributions in a long time on BU. Not the usual postcolonial whining, but a very precise analysis that offers a non-ideological, pragmatic solution. I agree that we need to strengthen the entrepreneurial spirit on the island. Otherwise the masses will remain forever in self-imposed economic slavery.

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  • Comissiong can say he did not say this, but i got a copy of the 10 page report to remove that ugly nelson statue over 2 decades ago. These are his own words. And got the NERVE to talk back then about this present generation but only last week twisted his mouth into diplomatic deceit.

    “THE ABOVE is an extract from the Report of the 1999 NATIONAL HEROES SQUARE AND GALLERY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE which had been established by the then BLP Administration of Prime Minister Owen Arthur to make recommendations about the LORD NELSON statue in Bridgetown.

    The Committee declared that Lord Nelson was NOT a hero, and that his Statue should be taken down and stored in a Museum.

    In other words, that the Statue should no longer be treated as a Monument, but rather, as an historical artifact that would help us to document that painful era in the life of our nation.

    The Committee also declared that if there was going to be any appreciable delay in accomplishing the storing of the Statue in a Museum, it should be removed from its prominent site in Bridgetown and relocated to a much more obscure site in the Aquatic Gap area, near the old British military cemetery.

    It should also be noted that the Committee was particularly insistent that the Statue be removed from its Broad Street / National Heroes Square location as a matter of urgency.

    It is therefore important that the current generation of young activists who are now demanding the removal of the Nelson Statue be made aware of the said Report so that they can build upon it and bring it to fruition.

    That is how we make progress — one generation building upon the foundation laid by a previous generation and taking forward the Struggle.

    Kindly therefore make it a point of duty to share the above extract with our young people.

    DAVID COMISSIONG”

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  • Miller…but look at our crosses though, where is Piece the Legend…

    Pacha, Theo, TSLN…ah calling everybody, ya see how these negros can never be trusted though, ever, ever especially not with the people’s tax dollars…..well, well.

    Despite agreeing to remove the disgusting old relic…..some Jackass, some say it was Arthur took up taxpayers money, some say it was 1.5 million dollars to turn the blighted piece of stone from facing south to facing west…and they thought that was brilliant, genius…..ah wondering how much of that money they stole and pocketed.

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  • So how much was this government planning to soak the taxpayers for this time around to create some stupid committee to make recommendations about removing the same statue that a commttee was paid over 20 years ago to make the same decisions…..and masking it with stupid shit about a public consultaion….so what figure do they plan to come up with now when they can just haul the statue across the road and dump it in the sea……..let it relic under the water to protect the reefs….won’t cost anything more than paying the crane operator and the men who will dismount it..

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Oh by the way, I forgot to mention a little something about Lord Nelson. Here is why the stinking defender of the African Slave Trade want tearing down and pelting in the dead sea. If he is to be placed in a museum, let the inscription read as follows:

    I, Horatio Nelson, have ever been and shall die a firm friend to our present colonial system.”
    I, Horatio Nelson, was bred, as you know, in the good old school, and taught to appreciate the value of our West India possessions [slaves included]; and neither in the field or in the senate [House of Lords] shall their interest be infringed whilst I have an arm to fight in their defence, or a tongue to launch my voice against the damnable and cursed doctrine of Wilberforce and his hypocritical allies.”- who believe in the abolition of slavery when I firmly endorse it and give sanction to it as a necessity for advancing British interests (added by the SSS for emphasis).

    So as the British establish regime stated:

    ”In Nelson, we find a man in heartfelt solidarity with British slaveholders against the perceived menace of Wilberforce (the famous British abolitionist campaigner). To this end, he want throwing in the stuff bin, Mia.

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  • Don’t worry, i will be more than happy to post extracts from the report of the Location of the Statue of…………ever so often as a reminder of government LIES…..it is called CIVIC DUTY…a word that would cause the fowls to trip and fall down.

    i refuse to give that dead racist and enslaver sympathizer any prominence, it’s beneath me, i have a public image to uphold, just like he HAD……as a racist…

    yall will never believe the stupid shit they come up with when they are wasting taxpayer’s money, but you will find out…

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  • I did not say anything as strong as homage, William Skinner. I said due respect. This is an element of Barbadian culture and indeed African culture that serves any young person well.

    I always listened to my parents and elders. I did not always agree but I tried to disagree respectfully unless pushed to the limit of my endurance whereupon I occasionally failed. Looking back, I wish I had handled even those interactions better.

    As for behaving more “mature”, I suggested that when I first came to BU and was told by Bush Tea that I was in a rumshop.

    BU, like the rumshop, is a place where we come to mix, exchange ideas and let off some steam. Sometimes we even get to listen to some music, watch some drama and comedy and even learn something new.

    But when I was young and went to the rumshop to buy my father some cigarettes, I could not disrepect even a drunken adult behaving badly because no matter how stupidly he behaved I knew that “me an’ he din nuh company”.

    And when he sobered up he would have proven himself helpful in many ways.

    KK is young and upcoming. Good manners are still an asset. So is respect for elders.

    I have given him good advice that will serve him well. You are free to give him the other kind.

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  • @Wura
    @David
    I found this link (location seem a bit strange)
    Document is incomplete

    Click to access nelson-statue.pdf

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  • I can understand how we ended up with Nelson’s statue. However, I am stunned that someone agreed to the twinning of The Carolinas and Barbados.

    This is so painful.

    https://www.barbadoscarolinas.org/who-we-are

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  • Being pro BLP or pro DLP is the biggest problem we have.

    We should be for GOOD GOVERNANCE!

    I don’t miss Mariposa one little bit more than I would miss Lorenzo.

    That being said, I would find it impossibled to “savage” a youngster. But appropriate criticism I will offer.

    PLT,

    All that you have suggested I am already doing as well as using my big mouth to convince others

    PS. Are there no more BLM marches? I am feeling that I missed the opportunity to be part of something big to brag about to my yet unborn grandchildren.

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  • Theo…don’t worry ah got the whole report but am exhausted, ah gotta recharge before i post those excerpts…..they are wearing me out and ah got a lung full of the sahara dust yesterday so can only relax a little today and count our blessings since the same dust now invading our lungs is the same dust stopping killer hurricanes from coming off the African continent and demolishing us..

    oh the irony..

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  • @TLSN
    “This is so painful.”

    Sometimes it hurts and real bad. Avoid heavy issues and some bloggers.

    Funny but true.
    Personal note… Life as I know it is falling to pieces. Wife has developed some one-liners.

    Saw this Bajan lady on FB with a slew of Bajan recipes. Told my wife I would get her a Bajan cookbook.
    She asked “For who?”

    I was shocked. I did not think of that question. If you are recently married, enjoy it. 🙂 If you currently have the power, enjoy it. Thirty years from now, you will be asking yourself “What the hell happened? When was the power transferred? 🙂

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  • TSLN….slaves will be slaves, have you seen the deplorable state of the Speightown area….appropriately twinned and resembling the deplorable state and education of many of the African descended both in the Carolinas and in Barbados….a legacy they all want to preserve in their slaveminded state…no progress, no improvement….and they are all proud to have racists visit and pretend to be superior….that’s the extent of their will to move on to better.

    remember too that Barbados’ evil slave masters back then provided invented, designed and practiced on the slaves in Barbados the very same slaves codes that destroyed the lives of the slaves in the southern US and elsewhere……and that too the as*holes are doubly proud about..

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  • @TheoG

    I perused your document and If they were serious about relocating Nelson they overlooked two other places in Antigua that would be suitable in addition to Shirley Heights.
    1) The entrance to the Dockyard itself or anywhere in the area of the Dockyard
    2) The grounds of Clarence House which also overlooks the Dockyard.

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  • Side Note:
    Ran into this story
    Will we face a similar problem
    https://antiguanewsroom.com/tourists-threaten-legal-action-over-testing-isolation/

    Then there was a story about police being called to a disturbance in Grenada and there was no follow-up because of the colors involved. Reminded me of the woman in Barbados who had her butt grabbed.

    Third class citizens in their own country.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @TheoG
    Consider yourself lucky you can even recall ‘having power’. If mine cooked 15% of the meals, not including when the children were young and she was afraid I might dose the meatball sauce with some rum to induce a good sleep, I was lucky.

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  • It was made very clear in the document to remove nelson that the statue DID NOT QUALIFY for any hero status….in their National Heros Square and Gallery…that was over 20 years ago the committee am sure they paid a washpan of taxpayer’s money had decided…

    Theo ..i don’t know if that is the part you said was missing, the first 4 paragraphs, i only got the end sentence of the 4th…but all the others up to page 10 are intact..i will start with the 5th and post an excerpt every day..

    Suggestions for the relocation of nelson
    5.1 The Committee proceeded to proceeded to consider the suggestions received for possible new home for nelson..
    5.2
    Embedded in the 81 oral and written submissions received by the committee and in the newspaper reports were 24 CONCRETE suggestions for the statue. These were as follows:

    the east coast of Barbados, backing Barbados and facing England…..slaves will be slaves.

    the Barbados Museum and Historical Society

    the Pierhead in Bridgetown

    Trevor’s Way in Bridgetown

    Nelson Street in Bridgetown…scum got a street a street in his blighted name that remains dilapidated and disgusting with curse till this day and everyone still wonders why

    Piccadilly Square London England

    The Vicinity of the Drill Hall, Garrison, St. Michael

    The Vicinity of Carlisle Car Park, Bridgetown

    The Court Yard of Parliament Building, Bridgetown….which needs removing too a damn cursed building am sure with a bunch of racist, enslaver dead demons running around creating total mischief as they have for centuries.

    Glenburnie, St. John

    The “backwoods” of St. George

    A platform in the sea off Port Charles. St. Peter…yes the as*holes stuck their mouths in still trying to give a racist prominence on the island while they rob the treasury, pension fund and the people of all their land.

    Millenium Heights, St. Thomas…

    Glenburnie, St.John

    Shirley Heights, overlooking Nelson’s Dockyard, Antigue…Shirley Heights was where the colonials who still kept shrunken heads of African slaves who were murdered lived, am still sensing that they shrunk the heads of African Antiguans right in that dockyard..

    The old Naval Dockyard, Mobil Park , near Pebbles Beach, St. Michael

    A platform out to sea at Carlisle Bay

    A platform out to see off Speightstown…every decision was designed to promote this stinking murderer and genocidal maniac who killed African slaves in slaves in the Caribbean with his poisonous hatred, every decision meant to give this savage animal prominence over the descendants of African slaves and their descendants.

    The Ermie Bourne highway, off St. Andrew

    The Area of land south of the Main Guard, Garrison, St. Michael

    The site of the Harbor Police Station, Bridgetown, St. Michael, is that not the site where they grabbed the land to build another blighted protrusion in the form of another racist hotel..

    The proposed site of the Maritime Museum planned for the Port Willoughby site, Bridgetown , is that one another racist and killer of slaves, was the maritime museum ever built or was the money stolen and sitting in one off those offshore accounts in US, the other islands or in Switzerland…

    The courtyard of the british high commission…

    The “Queen’s Park” Bridgetown, so how did cousin Elizabeth still get ownership of that park, does she send money to maintain it or is it not maintained by Black Bajan taxpayer’s…..yall useless goddamn slaves…

    So what does Mia need any consultation for again,why does she need to spend taxpayer’s money again, why is she still acting as though they do not know what to do with that statue as the Johnnie of the parliament said when it is clearly outlined in the report where it should go including to Nelson’s Dockyard in Antigua and overlooking Shirley Heights and back to UK where they piece of shit belongs… …to be cont’d

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  • Everywhere that nelson name i,s it brings…blight.

    “Did you know: When the Spanish Governor, Don Pedro de la Moneda, moved to the town of Puerto de los Hispanoles (later called Port d’Espagne or Port of Spain) in 1757, the village consisted only of two streets “Calle Principe” (Nelson Street) and Calle de Infante (Duncan Street)? There was a small population of Spanish-Indigenous fishermen and farmers who lived in the area in wooden buildings and mud huts. By 1786, the fishing village had evolved from mud huts into wooden houses. The eleven streets at that time were as wide as they are today and paved with limestone from the Laventille Hills

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  • Ordinary Black Man

    Ignoramus, aka wura

    Nelson Street ain’t name after Lord Nelson. It name after a Mrs Nelson who was a popular shopkeeper and landowner a century oR more ago. See why wunna cahn be trusted. Yuh cahn even get de places right. Next ting yuh know wunna gine be coming an licking down my house too, saying dat I is a bad colonist, nevuh min I Black as tar as we Bajans wuh say. Wunna bes rename de parishes. Lick down de parish churches. Ban Christianity. Blow up Parliament. Get rid uh piped water an de electric company. Tek down de gun hill lion. Abolish queens college Harrison college Alleyne lodge and all dem schools so. Turn codrington into a housing estate. Stupseeeee!

    Bajans ain’t gine stand fuh dis shyte. Richard hoad referred to it in de paper and I know it to dat We ordinary people absolutely do not support dis kinda foolishness. Dese half baked intellectuals we got walking bout in de Caribbean always cussing de British fuh imposing colonialism pun we but dem luv to impose dem shyte pun we ordinary people. Hoad talk about de Zr man Reds and Dey got nuff mo who will not stan fuh dis. If dese perverted intellectuals get dem way and Nelson get tek down widout full consultation wid de people o dis country (not only de intelligentsia) it might be de last straw and ordinary people might got to rise up and say once and fuh all we dun wid wunna and wunna shyte. Mark my words, if de guvment do anything foolish or some radical terrorists dat was pun dem marches tek it pun demself to tek it down, we could very well see serious violence and strife in dis country. We ordinary people will not tek it nuhmo!

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  • Ignorant Black man…so where you think the Nelson name comes from….does it sound African to you, so because someone from 100 years ago carried the name, it is still A EUROPEAN slave master name…as*hole…did you create the name…

    it is not me you are supposed to trust…..it’s the THIEVES AND SELL OUTS IN THE PARLIAMENT..

    the Nelson street in Trinidad is just as old AND WAS NAMED AFTER MILITARY racists and enslaver sympathizers like Nelson…i did not include that part…

    so take ya delusional fantasy story and shove it…

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  • BTW…..the nelson street in Trinidad, looks just as dilapadated and repulsive as the one in Barbados…THE NAME IS BLIGHTED..

    that is what i have been saying since this started, if you look closer ya might even find the blighted name swimming around in your bloodline.

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  • Theo…another miseducated clown for you to dissect…they never have the facts, the only intent is to prove you wrong…and still can’t tell that the names they are so proud to defend are mostly slave master names…..ah bet ya they can’t name not one African freedom fighter outside of Mandela…

    am yet to see one of them defending an African name, whether they are pretending to be black or not…all of them want to distance themselves from the Continent while pretending they care about Africa and still defending european names synonymous with the enslavement , murder, robbery and brutality against the African descended..

    ya only come out to attack when ya have information…not when ya that ignorant and miseducated…in that case you come out to learn…

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  • Ordinary Black Man

    Wura

    Yu maiden name is African. If yu tek yu white husband name, is dat one African? Wuh look uh much crosses doh nuh

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  • Ordinary Black Man

    Wura
    “that is what i have been saying since this started, if you look closer ya might even find the blighted name swimming around in your bloodline.“

    Exactly. Me and yu both cuh got dat in we bloodline (doh being related to you wuh be real unfortunate). So yuh gine chuck yu and me into de Wharf too?

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  • All these frauds want is to continue the charade for the tourists, weakening the position of the African descended to free themselves FROM COLONIAL SYMBOLS, LIES AND BLIGHTS…

    Another excerpt from the Committee on Removing nelson…..dated over 20 years ago..

    6.Basis of the Committee’s recommendation..

    6.2 In view of nelson’s proslavery proclivities and activities….the location of the statue must NOT be such as to suggest that nelson is a hero of the Barbadian people……… (aka murdering black slaves in the easter Caribbean by dumping their food supplies in the sea and causing them to starve to death, but the shitehounds will never mention that in the report.)

    It is in the best interests of Barbados that the nelson statue be moved expeditiously (over 20 years ago) from National Heroes Square..

    The Decision
    7.1 Based on the foregoing considerations the committee AGREED that the most appropriate place for the nelson statue is the PROPOSED maritime museum or maritime heritage centre planned for the fort willoughby area, Bridgetown….the dry dock is NOT IN SERVICE (so wuh happen to that 20 year old plan, an African leader built a whole country with a population of over 12 million people and with an area of 10,169 mi 2 in less than 20 years, he built beautiful CITIES…after a bloody civil war that lasted 4 years and cost over 1 million lives….so what is yall excuse in a 2×3 island 14W X 21W with a population of less than 300,000 and only one town, one hospital one this one that)
    That government would arrange for the TAKING DOWN, storing, restoration and preservation in the short term, in preparation for its relocation in the Museum or in the Heritage Centre. The Committee felt that when once A DECISION TO MOVE THE nelson statue HAS BEEN TAKEN IT WOULD BE COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE TO ALLOW THE STATUE TO REMAIN IN National Heroes Square FOR ANY SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF TIME SINCE THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS MAY UNNECESSARILY FUEL PUBLIC CONTROVERSY…..(well it’s been over 20 YEARS, the decision was made, so say hello to public controversy).

    ah wonder who will be fighting in ya civil war…there are less than 8,000 reject minorities on the island, half of whom already see where the wind is blowing..the other half don’t care and it’s only the few raggedly old ass thieves and parasites who can’t take a good slap from a black woman or young teenager….so who are all these clowns willing to fight a civl war with a Black majority of over 260,000 that yall used to pretend dont exist, calling yaselves the majority and trying to flip the script while robbing the majority of their birthrighs……ya must tell us what ya been smoking it must be really good…

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  • And since ya provoke me when i should be resting, ah will make alyuh shite…..just give me a couple…

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  • You are too stupid to carry on any useful conversation with, so you may have a slavemaster bloodline and don’t even know how to use it, so what will happen to you if the colonials unhitch themselves from all this fraud tomorrow as they are trying to do now….ya will be just as rudderless as ya are now and no one should look at ya dumb ass….because it’s very clear that ya are clueless.

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  • Ordinary Black Man

    Wunna keep doing that. Keep snubbing and underestimating we ordinary Black people. De results gine be disastrous. Wunna blacks who feel wunna got little intelligence and little jobs much much worse to we dan de colonists. At least dem did mek clear dem wasn’t too hot bout we. But wunna pretend to care bout we etc and den oppress we.

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  • Fraud…the oppression is coming from the parliament in collusion with the minority thieves who believe they own the island and have black human property thanks to ya black face sellouts for leaders…..am sure you know them either by kissing their asses to get a lowpaying slave job and selling out ya own people on the side to keep that slave job…or ya are one of the same trailer park minority trash and feeling ya can fool someone on here..

    when am done just be thankful if the likes of you and them can walk the streets…

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  • Oh dear! When Richard Hoad speaks for you as an ordinary black man you are in serious trouble. He is neither black nor ordinary.

    Am I to understand that your breaking point for committing acts of violence on live black Barbadian citizens is not the continued misappropriation of taxpayer’s money by the awarding of unjustifiable contracts by say the BWA but instead is the removal of a bronze statue of a dead white man who supported the enslavement of your ancestors??????

    🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

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  • Ordinary Black Man

    Donna, I gine leave yu tuh de young boy. Because yu cahn be wurth my time. Dis en only bout Lord Nelson and a bronze statue. Dis is about how de black intellectual elite treat dere black ordinary brothers generally. Dis is but one example of a decades old problem. I doan know if yu constitute de black intellectual elite. Yu might be an ordinary person like me. Stop selling yu self to dem and step back and think rationally. No need to get emotional.

    PS I sorry if yu cahn do it, but when a white fella or a Indian fella or a chinaman mek a good point I man enough to agree. So sorry if yu cahn fin it widin yu self to do de same.

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  • Did you think he made a good point when he identified more with George Zimmerman than Trayvon Martin?

    To understand a man’s point you have to understand where he is coming from. I don’t think Richard Hoad is deliberately racist. He just sees with white man eyes.

    You have labelled people here as your oppressors without any evidence to support it. It is true that certain black elements have joined in the oppression but just because people here went to certain schools and have achieved a certain level of success does not mean they have trampled on you to get there.

    And as for my being ordinary, I have access to many people you would call the elite. I have actually been to the homes of two of our prime ministers before they became prime minister. One of them was Mia. Been to her PS’S home too long ago. But I have always prefered the ordinary life and ordinary people. Who’s Who events are just not my style. I tend to greet the so called big shots when I happen to run into them and that’s all.

    And so I have never sold any part of myself to anybody. I think as much for myself as I did when the queen visited here in 1975 or 6 and one Hoad girl berated me for turning my back to the queen in protest for having to stand in the hot sun to wave like a little native.

    You think she was Richard Hoad family?

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  • Not that many Hoads around. I bet she is.

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  • But by the way, you say I can’t be worth your time, why is that? Only got time for the so-called “intelligensia” ?

    You sound just as dismissive as you accuse them of being.

    And without the substance to back it up.

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  • Edward Clarke, The Barbados Private Sector Association, calls out for “one Barbados”.

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/246402/barbados-private-sector-association-moving-forward

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  • Donna…don’t mind the idiot…nelson will be taken and down and the slave society they are trying to keep Black Bajans trapped in for another generation will be DISMANTLED…come hell or high water…

    this fool knows he/she is not even making sense to himself/herself…and can never be making sense to anyone else..

    TSLN….don’t mind that bloated private sector clown, they want to continue to live off the majority population FOR FREE…they will never want the slave society to be dismantled..but it will be…

    “The statement said there is a need to “reconstruct and rebuild” nationally, a process which must “include discussion on racial division and economic enfranchisement”.

    that topic would never have been allowed to see the light of day in Barbados in a thousand years if the crooked, greedy minorities did not see their slave society and parasitic practices of robbing the Black majority generationally …NOW AT RISK of being TAKEN AWAY..

    …he got the nerve to believe after they have all robbed generations of the people, their children and grandchilden, someone is going to just sit by and allow them to continue to rob future generations into the distant future…they all want shutting down…IT’S BLACK BUSINESSES should be springing up on the island at least by next year, it’s Black people’s money has funded and taken care of the people for centuries…while those parasites and racists who do not number enuff to generate the amount of taxes needed to fund anything, all they know to do is pretend their are superior, and HELP THE TWO TRASH FOR GOVERNMENTS victimize and tief from the people… …on a large scale annually..

    the only moving forward to together is to shut the racists and thieves down….permanently..

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  • Just imagine it’s these 3 Articles on human rights are the only weapons needed to take these wicked sell out governments and the thieves for minority racosts and parasites right down and out of the Black population’s lives permanently…..let them all go and look for honest employment….along with the ignorant who support them ……bunch of frauds and thieves.

    3 articles that speak for themselves, the Black majority, the original people of the earth have the right to practice their African spiritual culture, no government or country has the right to victimize or criminalize the indigenous populations on the earth for their ANCESTRAL BELIEFS and PRACTICES as they have done for centuries. No government or minority population have any right to set laws to rob them and keep them in generational poverty…so where is your civil war now ya ignorant piece of shit..

    No indigenous populaton on the earth should be put in a position to defend their right to exist or should any plans be developed by any government or state to exterminate them from the earth in mass genocide, the indigenouis have the right to FIGHT BACK against their own mass murder and against any form of racism since we know that the states will not develop the measures necessary to protect the targeted because of the capitalist mentality embedded for centuries in enabling these crimes FOR PROFIT, greed, so the African descended will have to develop those measures themselves for self preservation. This what your corrupt government dont want you to know,

    ▼Article X.
    Rejection of assimilation
    1. Indigenous peoples have the right to maintain,
    express, and freely develop their cultural identity
    in all respects, free from any external attempt at
    assimilation.

    States shall not carry out, adopt, support, or favor
    any policy of assimilation of indigenous peoples or of
    destruction of their cultures.

    ▼Article XI.
    Protection against genocide
    Indigenous peoples have the right not to be the object of
    any form of genocide or attempts to exterminate them.

    ▼Article XII.
    Guarantees against racism, racial discrimination,
    xenophobia, and related intolerance
    Indigenous peoples have the right not to be the object
    of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia, or related
    intolerance. States shall adopt the preventive and
    corrective measures necessary for the full and effective
    protection of that right.

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